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Neo Adeline
Oct 10, 2004, 05:48
konnchiwa guys
have anyone seen Kill Bill 1 & 2? Well I seen both of them and I thought the first one is awsome :cool: but the 2 one, its alright, I think :?
Could you please tell me and everyone about your opinion about this Kill Bill movies
thanks
:-)
Final Flight
Oct 10, 2004, 10:25
I thought the first one was amazing, especially because of all the japanese influence + all the fantastic gore.
However the second seemd to be more concentrated on western movies and focused on humour rather than violence, which is good also.
So i think that they are both equal, in their own way. :bluush:
RinniGal
Oct 19, 2004, 00:59
i thought that the second one was fine. it just had more talking and less action. i guess people wanted to watching a the blood and gore over again. if you notice, there is japanese and western influence in the first one. also in the second. just not so much japanese. i think people who were dissappointed by the second one are the japanophiles who think that they live and breathe japan. they dont want to think. the second movie is a thinking mans movie. it is a huge change from the first, so a lot of people(close-minded) were dissappointed cause they wanted to see useless blood-spray.
silver angel
Oct 19, 2004, 07:13
I loved both of them. They were both good in their own ways with their own styles and themes. The second one was fun, and with the latin music goin' on. Ohhhhh yeah.....:cute:
I really wanna see Go-Go's sister to take revenge on the Bride but noo...
Nothingness
Oct 19, 2004, 09:12
Go-GO had a sister :?
blu_pengwin
Oct 31, 2004, 05:03
Yea I think I read that somewhere...prolly the kill bill website..they had her in the script but it was cut out at the end....
architect
Nov 10, 2004, 12:24
The movies were great but it does seem that they were quite different in mood, you know? I am curious as to how QT had originally edit it when it was one movie. They cut out the black man martial art fighter scene - I think he was a student of Bill's and got killed - don't know why...
TwistedMac
Nov 10, 2004, 12:37
I might be alone thinking this, but that was the biggest pile of steaming human-feces QT has ever managed to squeeze out.
plotholes galore!
and why did every-bleeding-one decide to make the worst acting performances of their entire lives here? (the one exception being that one brother living in the trailer.. whats-his-name... he was good.)
Can't exactly say Uma Thurman made her worst performance ever though.. she always sucked. Casting Uma Thurman as the bride was probably the worst decision ever made in casting.
I mean come on. how can you put someone that has such bloody stale moves in a film where the character is supposed to be a friggin super-ninja?
And what was with the corny/stupid lines?
"I'm gonna say this in english so you understand how serious I am"... WHAT?
say you're the big boss of a big company in your country (if you're from an english-speaking country, just bear with me and trust me on this one). Would you all of a sudden turn to english instead of your natural language to signify how serious you are?.. no, you would not! It would make your peers and subordinates laugh at you... at you, not with you!
Why, oh, why didn't they dub lucy liu when she spoke japanese? Even I could tell how horrible her pronunciation was, and she was supposed to be born and bread japanese!
She sounded like an american reading from a book of "useful phrases for yakuza meetings".
Could have been cool, but wasn't!
All the blame goes on Quentin. Sucky work, Quentin.
jovial_jon
Nov 10, 2004, 12:39
So Mac, let me get this straight - you don't like Kill Bill?
King of Tokyo
Nov 10, 2004, 12:42
Kill Bill 1 & 2 were great and enjoyable movies. And I'm sorry, Did you just insult Uma's acting in Kill Bill? Did you watch the scene where she finally finds her daughter, that was an oscar worthy performance in itself. Stop hatin' boooy.
TwistedMac
Nov 10, 2004, 12:45
Kill Bill 1 & 2 were great and enjoyable movies. And I'm sorry, Did you just insult Uma's acting in Kill Bill? Did you watch the scene where she finally finds her daughter, that was an oscar worthy performance in itself. Stop hatin' boooy.
no!
that scene was mediocre at best!
Only reason it seemed good was because you had just watched 4 hours of her scraping the bottom of the barrel. Anything would look good after that!
Why, oh, why didn't they dub lucy liu when she spoke japanese? Even I could tell how horrible her pronunciation was, and she was supposed to be born and bread japanese!
She sounded like an american reading from a book of "useful phrases for yakuza meetings".
LMAO!! I remember being distracted by the awfully pronounced Japanese, especially in the final fight scene between Lucy Liu and Uma Thurman. Why didn't they just speak English, for crying out loud?! Lucy already spoke English to the Japanese people who only speak Japanese; it wouldn't have been any stretch at all to have her speak English to someone whose first language is English! :D:D Man, that part was horrible.
I mean come on. how can you put someone that has such bloody stale moves in a film where the character is supposed to be a friggin super-ninja?
I'm getting to a point to where I'm getting sick of seeing women cast as bad*** warriors when in reality most of them could be beaten with two fingers. There is no way I can suspend my belief if I'm watching some 5'4" woman move slower than a sloth while being as skinny as a bean stalk beat on some guy who's three times her size and faster. It's just retarded. If she can't move like Michelle Yeoh, then she ain't no martial arts master! :auch:
jieshi
Nov 10, 2004, 12:55
I thought they were both awesome! the first one even more so because I got to meet mamura oshii and ishikawa from Production I.G. last night at an exhibition opening!
King of Tokyo
Nov 10, 2004, 13:18
Sure, Lucy Liu was terrible with her Japanese, but that wasn't the whole movie.
And Uma's acting was superb! *Starts Chanting* UmaUmaUmaUmaUuumaUuuummaUmaauhndsfudshldkamfsa *Head explodes*
joel.lindgren
Nov 10, 2004, 22:01
Go-GO had a sister :?
In the script yes. Shibasaki Kou was supposed to play her in the movie, but didn't have time and tarantino didn't want to go with another actor.
Yuki is the name.
I love Kill Kill. fantastic movie all the way through. And the japanese uncut version of vol. 1 makes it so much better. tarantino did an excellent job creating the uberviolence.
Mac, I think you should have better arguments for your thesis, that sounded like a 11-year old's review.
I too thought the "I will say this in english" was kind of stupid, but hey, Lucy and Uma can't speak japanese, so what? The movie sucked because of that?
I personally think Uma was the absolute best choice to go for in Kill bill. She fit the role like a glove. Uma is super in the Tarantino movies but medicore in other movies I've seen with her. She is the Bride!
TwistedMac
Nov 11, 2004, 00:23
In the script yes. Shibasaki Kou was supposed to play her in the movie, but didn't have time and tarantino didn't want to go with another actor.
Yuki is the name.
I love Kill Kill. fantastic movie all the way through. And the japanese uncut version of vol. 1 makes it so much better. tarantino did an excellent job creating the uberviolence.
Mac, I think you should have better arguments for your thesis, that sounded like a 11-year old's review.
I too thought the "I will say this in english" was kind of stupid, but hey, Lucy and Uma can't speak japanese, so what? The movie sucked because of that?
I personally think Uma was the absolute best choice to go for in Kill bill. She fit the role like a glove. Uma is super in the Tarantino movies but medicore in other movies I've seen with her. She is the Bride!
I think I pretty much explained everything except for the plotholes. I'm thinking things like when she somehow shifted a ton of earth by making a small hole in the wood above her. The best she could've hoped for was to be crushed by the earth falling onto her.
I thought she DIDN'T fit the role... To me she was the anti-bride. The person that should have never been casted in that role. I was being pessimistic. doesn't mean I was being 11 just because my opinion differed from yours. And I didn't complain about Uma's japanese.
Uma was supposed to be an american. If she sounds like an american, that's just fine. Lucy however was supposed to be japanese.
Flashjeff
Nov 13, 2004, 20:23
I thought Kill Bill was awesome, start to finish, and Uma was perfect as The Bride! Meanwhile, I think I read somewhere that both volumes 1 & 2 will be coming out in a box set.
:cool:
misa.j
Nov 14, 2004, 08:52
I wholeheartedly agree with what Mac said about the movie. :bravo:
I didn't even bother watching the 2nd one.
I think QT is one of the most annoying people, even though I liked "Resevoir Dogs".
pishups
Nov 22, 2004, 15:03
I liked both but prefer Vol 1. The main reason is because Vol 1 is a lot more about the action whereas Vol 2 was based around the dialogue.... which dragged at times.
spellekubus
Nov 23, 2004, 22:57
I have bought both on DVD some time ago.I like them both alot,I dont think they should be seen as 2 movies but more as one movie.
bonepile
Dec 24, 2004, 05:32
The Japanese version of Kill Bill Part One was superb. The fight at the House of Blue Leaves not shown in black and white, and definately not edited was one of the best action sequences I have seen in any film in years, and properly paid homage to all those great Japanese films from the past. I can hardly wait for Tarantino's "Directors edition" that will combine both films, and add some missing bits too.
HomicidalMouse
Dec 25, 2004, 02:06
I thought the films were somewhere between awful and ok, but definatly not great. It should have been left as 1 film though. Then I wouldnt have forgotten what happened in the first one. Damn those money obsessed bigwigs...
I thought the first one was really cool, in particular how well it mended anime scenes within the actual story. Also, the blood bath of a battle at the end of the movie was just too cool, that along with all the countless other Asian action film references.
Kill Bill 2 was great, it explained more through story --but it just couldn't pack in as much energy as the first.
I thought the movies were ok, there were some ridicoulsly funny parts, where u go like omg wtffffff, like that weird back and forth eye hate with that weird music, i mean sm things were good, but i felt too much sterotypes in the movie, it felt like a manga/anime/old kung-fu/western/revenge movie collage all put together. Well anyways, it was ok i guess, but not exatcly exalting me with visual euphoria and makin my neurons race so fast to give a stroke type of film. the most enjoyable film for me in 2004 was the Bourne Supremacy, lost in translation, and collateral.
Bought them both on dvd today, havent had time to watch them yet.
Looking forward to it though.
Finished watching them both around 5am last night, thoguht the film(s) were brilliant.
Dunno why people didnt like vol.2 i thought it was hilarious, the references to old school martial arts flicks were a laugh. I swear one part when Uma was walking thru the desert was some reference to that "Kung Fu" tv series.
Loved the animation scenes about O-Ren's childhood, possibly my favorite part of the movie(s), would love to see QT do a feature length animation.
To be honest i was kinda glad vol.2 wasnt a blood bath like vol.1, which i felt was a bit OTT at most times...
Whilst vol.1 felt like a tribute to old school samurai movies, vol.2 felt more like a tribute to old school Chinese martial art movies. If you could understand cantonese the scene when Uma first meets Pai Mei is pretty funny as well.
And you GOTTA love the five point fist death move XD
Brilliant film(s) in my opinion.
Edit: and that thing about SuperMan was pretty cool as well, never even thought about that. XD
Chibi_Chi
Dec 30, 2004, 07:11
I thought kill Bill was a good movie 1 and 2 when i saw the previews it didnt look that interesting but when i saw the movie I had a different opinion.
mizerable_d
Dec 30, 2004, 08:44
i never seen the movies but wish to. so all i can say is that the girls in there are hot and awsome! XD
Bob in Iowa
Jan 2, 2005, 11:59
I just rented both vol 1 and vol 2, and watched them both. I have been a fan of Quentin Tarantino ever since Reservoir Dogs. I thought that the movie was an artful expression of campy ultraviolence, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
It was good to see Michael Madsen again portraying a psycho killer even though he didn't cut off any ears.
Japanimaniac
Jan 10, 2005, 14:02
I loved them both. The second was more spaghetti western, while the first was more japanese samurai (Quentin says so himself in the Making Of features). The huge battle at the end of the first was amazing, and there was just something about that song when The Bride and O-Ren started fighting that got you right on the edge of your seat.
The only complaint I have is the transitions in the music. That little seventies ditty whenever Uma recognized someone got annoying, because it just popped in at the worst-sounding times (it cut off the 5, 6, 7, 8's!!!). And I was really disappointed that the song I mentioned above didn't go on through the whole scene.
Uma is an awesome actress, and I have no idea how anyone could say otherwise. And she was cast as The Bride because her and Quentin had come up with the idea for the movie while on the set of Pulp Fiction. Hence "Written by Q & U".
Pali1985
Jan 17, 2005, 11:33
Ive seen both, and i liked Vol1 better. More action, specially with all those Japanese Gang members. Vol2 was like more bla bla..
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