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Rockuman
Oct 18, 2004, 11:15
Would someone be nice enough to tell me what EVERY single verb conjugation for Japanese is? I've been looking on google for a while, and I can't find anything at all.

Emoni
Oct 18, 2004, 11:44
Hmm, don't actually KNOW every single verb conjugation. But I do know of a book that I have that has helped me a bit. I still recomend getting Genki 1 and 2 for your study. The verb book I'm speaking of is 501 Japanese verbs. Isn't great, but works well for a "verb dictionary."

I'm impressed to see you still chugging along with your studies, but there are limits to the accessability of information you can find on the internet. Sometimes you have to go to books!

TwistedMac
Oct 18, 2004, 12:23
*looks at bookshelf*
501 verbs... it's ok.. it has like one verb in all its conjugations on each page

So far I've only used it to pick out random verbs to memorize =P

It's all in Romaji though.. how hard would it have been to add some cool japan-doodles in there?

IFRAN
Oct 18, 2004, 12:25
Hi this is my first time posting here. I found this site awhile back, but never posted. Anyhow, to answer you question Rockuman, I think it would be very difficult for someone to tell you EVERY verb conjugation does.

I agree with Emoni's book recommendation, 501 Japanese verbs is a pretty good book for a "verb dictionary". Personally, I use a book called Japanese Verbs and Essentials of Grammer. It was recommended by My Japanese teachers and it is a really good book to learn verb counjuctions from. Although, I still use my Japanese for busy people book, so I would suggest getting book like that, or Genki as Emoni had said before.

Stutz
Oct 18, 2004, 12:30
Every single verb conjugation? Well it doesn't list everything for each verb, but it will show you how to conjugate the 3 types of verbs and it costs less than $20. The Handbook of Japanese Verbs (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/4770026838/qid=1098070935/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9158394-6518557?v=glance&s=books) by Taeko Kamiya has been a very valuable book on studying verbs. It gives examples for each uses in forms that can be easily understood by even beginners to the language. I don't like 501 Japanese verbs since the author used a poor system of romaji which if I remember right was all he used.

Elizabeth
Oct 18, 2004, 12:36
I'll also tip my vote to 501 verbs as well as the textbook 'Youkoso' which includes an appended chart of 16 endings for all three classes plus adjectives and copulas. Here is a pretty comprehensive site posted here a while back to get you started, though...

http://www.timwerx.net/language/jpverbs/

Glenn
Oct 18, 2004, 13:30
I have Japanese Verbs at a Glance (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/4770027656/qid=1098074818/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-6935812-4927045), and it's pretty good for all of the inflectional endings and how they are used, as well as some combining forms, etc.

okaeri_man
Oct 18, 2004, 17:28
i don't have the time to write it out, but don't you mean something like this:

Group 1 (-iru/-eru) Verbs - Easy
mIRU: mi(nai) mi(masu) mi(ru) mire(ba) mi(you) mi(ta/te)
tabERU: tabe(nai) tabe(masu) tabe(ru) tabere(ba) tabe(you) tabe(ta/te)

Group 2 Verbs - Essentially everything else, depends on ending
kaKU: kaka(nai) ka(kimasu) ka(ku) kake(ba) ka(kou) ka(ita/ite)
oyoGU: oyoga(nai) oyogi(masu) oyo(gu) oyoge(ba) oyo(gou) oyo(ida/ide)
...
...
...

Irregular Verbs
suRU: shi(nai) shi(masu) su(ru) shire(ba) shi(you) shi(ta/te)
kuRU: ko(nai) ki(masu) ku(ru) kire(ba) ki(you) ki(ta/te)
iKU: ika(nai) iki(masu) i(ku) ike(ba) i(kou) i(tta/tte)

Mike Cash
Oct 18, 2004, 19:50
At the risk of sounding like a heretic.....

Buy a textbook and work your way through it. They introduce the verb tenses, explain them, give you practice with them, and then build upon what you've already learned when introducing others.

Emoni
Oct 20, 2004, 08:13
Hope that isn't a heretic! That is still about the best way I can think of self study and really learning the language without an actual class. Through the internet just won't do...

Rockuman
Oct 20, 2004, 09:19
Well, it sounds like I'd better get this book then. I had no idea they had so many verbs conjugations than an average human couldn't remember them all. I thought that was French's job. :) Thanks. I'll keep an eye out for the book.

*edit: BUT... if anyone knows what the "e" ending means (tabee, itee, shinee), I'd like to know. I hear it quite a lot.

jt_
Oct 20, 2004, 11:00
Maybe it's just me, but I saw that "501 Japanese Verbs" book at one point and didn't really get the point. Conjugations of Japanese verbs are highly regular (with only a few exceptions), so I can't see why you'd need separate charts for hundreds of different verbs. If you learn the basic patterns (which any decent Japanese textbook will teach you) then you shouldn't have any trouble applying them to any new verb you come across.

I guess that these "501...Verbs" books are part of a series that covers a number of different languages. I'm sure there are languages out there with so many irregular verbs and conjugations that a book like this would be useful, but for Japanese, at least, the whole idea is kind of ridiculous.

*edit: BUT... if anyone knows what the "e" ending means (tabee, itee, shinee), I'd like to know. I hear it quite a lot.
The three words you mention don't really share a common ending at all.

"Itee" is a colloquial form of the adjective "itai" ("(It) hurts!" or "Ouch!") with a vowel change (ai->ee) that occurs often in rough masculine speech. (cf. "Yabee!", "temee").

"Shinee" is the standard imperative form of the verb "shinu" (die) with the ending vowel sound drawn out.

"Tabee" I'm wondering if you heard correctly. A quick Google search tells me that it might possibly be heard as an imperative form of "taberu" (eat), but I imagine it's either very slangy and/or dialect, because the regular imperative form would be "tabero" ("taberu" and "shinu" are different verb classes and conjugate differently)

Rockuman
Oct 20, 2004, 11:52
Actually, I meant "Ikee", not "Itee".

But, I'll go ahead and take your word for it. I swear I've heard a bunch of vowels with "ee" at the end of them though. :)

Scrivener
Oct 21, 2004, 14:06
I'd be worried if I was hearing the word "shinee!" (die!) quite a lot...

Elizabeth
Oct 21, 2004, 14:27
Actually, I meant "Ikee", not "Itee".

But, I'll go ahead and take your word for it. I swear I've heard a bunch of vowels with "ee" at the end of them though. :)
A bunch of vowels, extended vowels.....a bunch of verbs ? Well, sure you're not hearings things for the connective 'tte' form instead ? :?

PaulTB
Oct 21, 2004, 16:28
I'd be worried if I was hearing the word "shinee!" (die!) quite a lot...
I diagnose ... not enough anime. :D

Pick the 'right' series and you can get your daily recommended amount of 'shinee!' in just 25 minutes.

[EDIT] Sneaky test ´»

Mike Cash
Oct 22, 2004, 17:48
A bunch of vowels, extended vowels.....a bunch of verbs ? Well, sure you're not hearings things for the connective 'tte' form instead ? :?

In the case of "Ikee" he's more likely hearing a drawn-out 行け