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Kala
Nov 1, 2004, 13:13
Hi, hi, please forgive me if this is a repeated subject (please don't kill me!!@_@, I'm just an innocent girl!!:p) Anyway, I love Angel Sanctuary and recently I have found that it wasn't the only good manga it's autor, Kaori Yuki, has made, but she has a lot of pretty good stories, like Kaine, Boys next door, Count Cain, Cruel Fairy Tales, Hotaru... etc. So, I was wondering if anyone likes them (or at least Angel Sanctuary)
Oh, this was supposed to be dedicated just to Kaori-san, but well, Clamp are my favourite authors (of course, they are genius), I just love them, so... anybody? You know, X-1999, Tokyo Babylon, Chobits, Wish, Lawful Drug, RGveda, Clover, Tsubasa, XXXholic.... etc, etc, etc... there’re too many...
Anyway…. Opinions??
Well, that's all, byee... and sorry if this has already been talked ^^"....

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Thanxs
R.I.P & Good Luck!! Kala~

Flashjeff
Nov 1, 2004, 18:52
CLAMP are among my favorites too, they are perhaps the most prolific manga creators around with stuff like you mentioned along with Cardcaptor Sakura, Chobits, Angelic Layer, Suki, Miyuki-chan in Wonderland and Magic Knight Rayearth. Their art style and fascinating stories are just plain incredible. And the fact that so many of their manga stories have been turned into anime proves that people love their work!
:cool: :-) :blush: :cute:

Kala
Nov 6, 2004, 14:11
Yeah, yeah :cute: :cute: :cute: !!! C.C.Sakura, Miyuki, Rayearth!! Clamp are the best!! :cute: :D :blush: ... buuuuttt.... WHAT ABOUT KAORI YUKI? :? Anyone :( ... not here, not there.. :( I feel lonely... // :p :p



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Thanxs
R.I.P & Good Luck!! Kala

Camui
Nov 8, 2004, 11:04
Finally somebody else that likes Angel Sanctuary...its soo awesome and I totally love the story line even if it has incest..I've read the first three mangas and they're the best and I also saw the OVA it made me cry like crazy cuz it was soo sad, but I still loved it...I haven't read anything else of Kaori Yuki's...and I also totally love Clamp...I've read CCS, Chobits, Tsubasa Reservoir Chornicles, XXX Holic..they are all really good, but I really love CCS and Chobits...I've watched the entire series for both of those..^^ :cute: :-)

december
Nov 8, 2004, 16:48
The incest in Angel Sanctuary threw me for a loop. But I watched it all the way through and it grew on me. I mean - the story is so tragic! Too bad that didn't finish. I remember reading a while ago that the director of Angel Sanctuary anime died and the production decided not to finish the anime out of respect to him. I don't know if it's true or not. Has anyone else heard about that?

dreamer
Nov 8, 2004, 20:39
hum...I liked the arts from amgel sanctuary, although I didn't understandd a thing about the story O_o

Camui
Nov 9, 2004, 11:02
The incest in Angel Sanctuary threw me for a loop. But I watched it all the way through and it grew on me. I mean - the story is so tragic! Too bad that didn't finish. I remember reading a while ago that the director of Angel Sanctuary anime died and the production decided not to finish the anime out of respect to him. I don't know if it's true or not. Has anyone else heard about that?

I haven't heard anything about that...is there a series other than the OVA? ..cuz the OVA is only three epis long...I know the manga continues on though..speaking of which I got the 4th manga today...^^...yay..can't wait to read it...

I also got the third XXX Holic and Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles and the eighth Gravitation..*happiness* ^^..and I'm getting the box set with the entire series of His and Her Circumstances as an early Christmas present... this is heaven ^^ *daydreams*

Kala
Nov 14, 2004, 09:58
yeah... I just know about the ovas too (which, by the way, are very good, though it just adapt a little part of the story)...
Oh, and camui, lucky you! I don't have internet at home anymore so I can't download anything and I can't buy those mangas here :( :(... and I want to be millonere (--> I want to speack and write English better than I do^^" jajjaja) Ah, and I like to know someone else like A. S as much as I do... You should read some of Kaori other works, they may not be AWWWEEESSOOOMEEE, but they are pretty good too!!! :blush: :blush:

Camui
Nov 14, 2004, 11:36
I'll definetly keep that in mind although right now I'm trying to catch up on other manga series I'm probably gonna get four more tomorrow...*happiness* ^^...but I'm not sure which managas I'm gonna get...probably..D.N. Angel and Pita Ten, but I dunno what else...

nade_ogawa
Nov 14, 2004, 23:29
I love Clamp's Work !!! they are the best mangaka (for me ) in the whole world :-)
in my country, Clamp's manga is already translated and published, so a lot of clamp's fans like me can read it and admire their work. but..there is two manga (clamp's manga) that can't publish in Indonesia. they are X and Tokyo Babylon. damn!!....I love X and Tokyo Babylon more than other clamp's work. I collect X photobook and Tokyo babylon photobook, X series, X OVA, X Movie, Tokyo babylon OVA, etc. :cute:


kaori Yuki?? I love her story in Kaine, count cain, angel sanctuary. but..it is very difficult to find her work in my country. :(

StarCrap
Nov 21, 2004, 15:44
hum...I liked the arts from amgel sanctuary, although I didn't understandd a thing about the story O_o


O_O......O_o;;...>_< what's wrong with you??? It's alright, someday you'll understand.

Camui
Nov 22, 2004, 11:43
...basically Angel Sanctuary is about this character named Setsuna who is the reincarnation of this very powerful angel named Alexiel who betrayed god.. he and his sister Sara fall in love and everybody is against it...along comes Alexiel's twin brother Rosiel and is trying to get rid of him...and while Setsuna is about to get hit, Sara steps in his way and dies for him...Setsuna's reaction reawakens Alexiel and destoys the entire city of Tokyo...very sad.. but then he has himself killed to reclaim her soul from Hades and hopefully come back to life..that's as much as I've read...and please correct me if I left anything out or made any mistakes in my info..^^

dreamer
Nov 22, 2004, 21:07
lol this part was quite clear...what I didn't understand is about his relations with the other angels/demons >.<

Camui
Nov 23, 2004, 10:47
that is something that would take some research for me to explain..I pretty much know the basics, but I always end up fogetting some names...if I have free time I'll figure it out and write a brief post on it ^^

dorkist
Nov 24, 2004, 06:06
Angel Sanctuary is one of my all time favorite mangas!!! I only read fan scanlations but..Kira is too damn sexy :cute:

Setsuna is ok...Cute, but ehhh...let's just say he lost a whole lot of points for what he did to a certain character that I was really fond of TT__TT

*ahem* Anyway, Camui, I could post links to some great AS sites, but I have to find them..I just recently bought my own computer so I still have a ton of stuff to transfer and find all my favorite links <.<
If you could wait a day, I shall try my best to help you ^^;

EDIT: lol I guess it took less than a day ^^;; I only found one so far, so here ya go!

Digital Angel..navigating isn't too hard..just click on the #s on the right..#1 has the profiles for the characters (http://digital.jahannam.net/main.html)

Ah! And how could I forget about CLAMP :sorry: CCS, X, and Rayearth are among my favorites! I hope to read XXXholic soon ^^;

Camui
Nov 24, 2004, 09:59
thanks :relief: ...atleast now I won't have to worry about trying to explain that part of the story..I've been really busy with school work..I need to get some of my grades up :( ..I definetly recommend XXX Holic..its not one of my presonal favorites, but its definetly interesting...^^

BakaPockyNut
Nov 24, 2004, 15:07
I love Clamp! They do really good Manga/Anime. Gohu Drug (i think) are one of the best that they've done.
Kaori Yuki is an Awsome Manga-ka artist too! Angel Sanctuary was very beautiful!I enjoyed watching it, and reading it.
I also loved Kaori Yuki's 'Count Cain/God Child' and 'Boys next door' those were Bitchin!
Those are a "must read"!! :cool:

layn
Nov 25, 2004, 19:24
I read Cain from Yuki Kaori. :blush:
The art is beutiful, unsual story, gothic and dark. :relief:
Unique, may I add. :souka:

Kala
Nov 26, 2004, 08:58
I think I don't need to say this again, but, YES! CLAMP ARE THE BEST!! Oh, and, I like angel Sanctuary a lot because I read a lot spoilers about the story... and because I have the translation and the ovas... but I haven't be able to find scans :( :( :( ... Because of I don't know what editorial (-->?) is publishing (-->?) it, they are disapearing of the net, I can't find any... and now, I don't have internet at home anymore :( :( ... WHY, WHY MEEEE???? :( :( --->jaja, I have already say all that, right??^^".... oh, well, whatever :p :p
OH! and dorkis: beatiful, beatiful hyde's picture!!!! :cute: :cute: GOD, HE IS THE BEST THING EVER CREATED!!! ---> sorry, get excited...^^"
(ah, don't get jealous, Camui, that gackt's photo is beatiful too, it just that I already know it :p :p )

Tenrousei
Sep 10, 2005, 19:19
I am a really big fan of Kaori Yuki and CLAMP as well. I like Kaori Yuki's art and I have a lot of her scanlations. I also like CLAMP and I like their stories and LOVE their art but some of their characters are really irritating. Like Suu in Clover, that girl in Suki, Kotori from X/1999 hits the top of the 'Irritating Girls' List and some of their guy characters are so NOISY! Like Kimihiro and Kazahaya. I really like Kaori Yuki's works and I would really like to read Angel Sanctuary so if could anyone pleeease give me a link to a scanlations site??
Gomme na sai... :relief:

Kiyomi
Sep 12, 2005, 21:53
I love Kaori Yuki's work. She's my fav artist. have you read Ludwig Kakumei? It's kinda whacked out fairytale like story of a prince. Boys Next Door, Count Cain, Cruel Fairytales and others are really good too.

Tenrousei, sorry but Angel Sanctuary has been liscenced, so there are no scanlations.

Kuro_Tsubasa69
Sep 12, 2005, 22:18
Ah! I love Ludwig Kakumei!!! :D I love everything of Yuki Kaori's......Especially Angel Sanctuary and Count Cain, and as mentioned before, Ludwig Kakumei. :nihonjin: Her artwork is so BEAUTIFUL, and she is a great writer as well. :blush:

Clamp is great, too! I love the X series, it's one o my favs. :cute:

lastmagi
Sep 18, 2005, 06:36
Hi, hi, please forgive me if this is a repeated subject (please don't kill me!!@_@, I'm just an innocent girl!!:p) Anyway, I love Angel Sanctuary and recently I have found that it wasn't the only good manga it's autor, Kaori Yuki, has made, but she has a lot of pretty good stories, like Kaine, Boys next door, Count Cain, Cruel Fairy Tales, Hotaru... etc. So, I was wondering if anyone likes them (or at least Angel Sanctuary)
Oh, this was supposed to be dedicated just to Kaori-san, but well, Clamp are my favourite authors (of course, they are genius), I just love them, so... anybody? You know, X-1999, Tokyo Babylon, Chobits, Wish, Lawful Drug, RGveda, Clover, Tsubasa, XXXholic.... etc, etc, etc... there’re too many...
Anyway?. Opinions??
Well, that's all, byee... and sorry if this has already been talked ^^"....

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Thanxs
R.I.P & Good Luck!! Kala`

"Innocent" and Kaori Yuki don't exactly mix!

I've bought all the Japanese AS manga, and am currently buying up the English translations as they get on shelves. I get the general feel that most anime/manga fans are pretty open to the incest aspect of the story, so I'm not really worried there. That aside, I think the character development is really great, and the story both well-researched and richly told. There's also the art.

As for the characters themselves, I think a lot of people don't like Setsuna, but I don't really like protagonists that are too unrealistically perfect, so even grave mistakes now and then I can appreciate, and encourage to see. It really fleshes out characters. Kira... he's pretty interesting, but he's involved in so many storyline shifts (and not to mention so many, shall we say "changes") that it's hard to pin him down even in the end. Aside from Setsuna, I must say that Kato's my fav. I have a soft spot for reformed junkies, I guess.

The OVA, I think, absolutely butchered the AS manga. Part of it was due to the awful dubbing, though. I don't remember much else, except that it made me cringe.


I can't say I like CLAMP, though. But that's ok, they have enough fans already...

Kiyomi
Sep 19, 2005, 22:00
lol...true innocent and Kaori Yuki don't mix...unless its a cover up...lol

Kyo's_Doll
Nov 11, 2005, 04:55
aww i love angel sanctuary and boys next door and... wah godchild... ludwg revolution, screw!

kaori yuki is the best mangaka!!!! do you call them in english Mangaka too??? o.O i hope so... XD argh

Kiyomi
Nov 13, 2005, 21:42
OMG! someone brought this topic back up. XD

i agree with Kyos_Doll. not sure if its mangaka in englich...maybe its manga artist

BloodPoi-chan
Dec 12, 2005, 01:57
yeayeah! luv all by :09:Clamp:09:!
but kaori yuki's, the only manga i have ever read is Angel Sanctuary..~~

elanor
Jan 2, 2006, 10:39
...basically Angel Sanctuary is about this character named Setsuna who is the reincarnation of this very powerful angel named Alexiel who betrayed god.. he and his sister Sara fall in love and everybody is against it...along comes Alexiel's twin brother Rosiel and is trying to get rid of him...and while Setsuna is about to get hit, Sara steps in his way and dies for him...Setsuna's reaction reawakens Alexiel and destoys the entire city of Tokyo...very sad.. but then he has himself killed to reclaim her soul from Hades and hopefully come back to life..that's as much as I've read...and please correct me if I left anything out or made any mistakes in my info..^^

Are you summarizing the anime version? Cuz the manga goes way beyond that... But then again. There's NOT BLOODY WAY you could ever summarize the manga series.

I'll do my best though. BEWARE OF MAJOR SPOILERS.

Main Characters:

Setsuna: The protagonist of the story. He's a boy who is one of the many reincarnations of the organic angel, Alexiel (female).

Sara: Setsuna's sister. The siblings love each other (yes, incest) and thus, this sin is what triggers the whole plot. Sara is the incarnation of the elemental angel of water, Gabriel.

Rociel: At first, he seems like the main 'bad guy'. He's Alexiel's twin, the inorganic angel. It seems to all that Rociel is the one most loved by God.

Alexiel: Sent into an endless series of reincarnations in which she lives a life or suffering and painful deaths as punishment from God. At first it seems that she hates Rociel because Alexiel loves God yet God only treasures Rociel. When she is reincarnated as Setsuna, Alexiel feels that this reincarnation of her (who she sees as a separate being from the real her) would be the trigger needed to overthrow Sevotharte in Heaven. Gabriel is later revieled to have been sent with her to keep a track on her and to ensure that the punishment system is working properly.

Gabriel: Angel of water (female). Although on the surface she was sent after Alexiel to 'spy' on her. It seems that Gabriel's reincarnation of Sara, who has none of the memories of being Gabriel, falls in love with Setsuna. So basically, the reincarnations of the organic angel and the angel of water are in love. In truth though, Gabriel was sent after Alexiel (a job that's usually left to the lowest ranking angels) was a way of getting rid of her as Gabriel was opposing Sevotharte's rule.

Kira: He's the incarnate of Lucifer and is a classmate and close friend of Setsuna.

Lucifer: The bad guy? Well, maybe, but not ultimately. Lucifer loves Alexiel who is the only one who can weild the sword Nanatsusaya which has his soul sealed in it while his lifeless body remains in Hell.

Michael: The elemental angel of fire and angel of battle. He's Lucifer's younger brother and strives to defeat him for betraying Heaven and God. He's short, ill tempered, hopeless at remember faces and the only one who seems to be able to placify him and is his closest friend is Raphael.

Raphael: Angel of wind and healing. For a while in the series, he falls in love with Sara. Sara seems to be the character to break Raphael's womanizing and in the long run, helps him find true love with his subordinate. Raphael plays a huge role in Sara and Setsuna's traveling to Heaven and also at one point, resurrects Setsuna from death.

Uriel: Angel of earth and death. He had loved Alexiel but yet was assigned the task of condeming Alexiel to eternal suffering by reincarnation because of his post. After giving this order in his voice, Uriel took away his own voice and now talks to people directly in their heads. When he meets Setsuna, Uriel pleads him to take his life, but Setsuna replies that if he is trully sorry for his actions, then the punishment Setsuna gives him is to continue living.





And that litttle summary takes you about...er... over the peak of the iceberg. Angel Sanctuary is a must read if you don't mind twisted and intense plots. Really, I missed ONE SINGLE FRAME on a page once, and I was lost for another 4 chapters before I sort of knew where I was again.

If you're not so much into incest, don't worry too much. Angel Sanctuary's main pairing Setsuna and Sara, are probably the least popular in the series. It's the continuous line of beautiful side stories and development of the characters around them that are so engaging and interesting. I cried when Michael finally called out "aniki" to Lucifer. :( (I love Michael to death. He's so darn cute.)


OMG! someone brought this topic back up. XD

i agree with Kyos_Doll. not sure if its mangaka in englich...maybe its manga artist


No. I've seen photos of the mangaka, Kaori Yuki-sensei, and she definately looks like your typical middle-aged Japanese woman. She makes quite a few mistakes and Engrish in her manga to backup that belief too.

Kaori-sensei did admit to having a facination with old-England settings and stories ever since she was a little girl, so that might be where her story styles come from.

Doll
Jan 12, 2006, 05:53
I have read the manga!:cool:
I cried when Rosiel and Katan died!:bawling: I don't like Setsuna and Sara... I don't know why... i just don't:okashii:
My favourite character was the MAD HATTER!(Belial) I looove him! So cute funny moments and a bit of insanity!:cute:
http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=120IVCVOLVTVW1AWIOIBX4000S -->Violin play by Belial:happy:

Jo Rose
Jan 17, 2006, 08:19
i love Love LOVE angel sanctuary :love: and boys next door. Kaori Yuki is just sooooooooooo awesome :bravo:

ijiwaru
Jan 20, 2006, 09:11
Ahh Kaori Yuki is my favourite manga artist of all time ^__^ I love all her manga...the characters are so well developed all the time I think and the storylines are original and fascinating - not to mention her artwork is completely beautiful :bluush: My favourites are probably Angel Sanctuary, God Child, Boys Next Door and Ludwig Kakumei ^^

doinkies
Jan 20, 2006, 11:36
OMG! someone brought this topic back up. XD

i agree with Kyos_Doll. not sure if its mangaka in englich...maybe its manga artist

"Mangaka" is used a lot, but I've seen "manga artist" used as well.

Kala
Jan 28, 2006, 15:20
I Also Cried When Rosiel And Katan Dieeed!!!
Kaaaataaaannn!!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

elanor
Feb 13, 2006, 12:30
Boys Next Door was the first Kaori Yuki manga I've read. Count Cain's Godchild arc is my favourite (I don't like the first few volumes) and Boys Next Door comes next. Kaine is also good.

Angel Sanctuary is awesome simply in it's complex plot and mindblowing saga.

My favourite scene is when Michael finally calls Lucifer "Aniki". >< sooooo sweet.

"Mangaka" is a Japanese term. It's derived from kanji and it's Chinese form of "Manhua" = Manga & "Jia" = Ka. 'Mangaka' means 'manga artist' in English.