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Shin Asura
Nov 19, 2004, 13:15
I was walking with my Japanese friend at school today and there were so many Japanese students giving me bad looks. When I got home, I emailed her and asked why Japanese people don't like black people. She told me that she thinks it's because Japanese people think that cultures are supposed to stay together and not mix with one another.
Is it because Japan has been so closed to foreigners for the longest time, I think there was an Emperor that made it illegal for foreigners to visit Japan awhile ago, I guess this is still in the Japanese minds, even today.
That's pretty sad if you ask me.
Awhile ago, I took two Japanese girls out and we ran into a group of Japanese tourists, all they did was stare at us, one of the girls I took out has an I don't want to be here look. I took them home and never called them again.
I don't want to be a target for staring everytime I go out with my Japanese friends or maybe one day I find a Japanese girlfriend, but I'm thinking that will never happen.
Don't let it get you down. Who's in the right here and who's in the wrong? If you find Japanese friends who don't mind the staring, then don't worry about it. Easy for me to say, but I used to be one of the only white kids when I was in high school and I got told plenty of times not to fool with black girls, but I do have to admit that in general the black kids I knew growing up were much cooler about the race thing than any of my white friends were.
Let em stare - be a bigger person than they are. Be proud of knowing that inside we're all the same anyways. Don't just give up.
misa.j
Nov 20, 2004, 02:04
Sadly, there are a lot of Japanese people who have a hard time knowing what to do when they see foreigners or interracial couples; also I don't think a lot of Japanese people have proper etiquette that you can see in the U.S. or Europe.
On the other hand, you can meet most open-minded people in Japan sometimes.
Like Fantt said,
Don't let it get you down.
CGPGroup
Nov 20, 2004, 05:26
Don't let it get you down. Who's in the right here and who's in the wrong? If you find Japanese friends who don't mind the staring, then don't worry about it. Easy for me to say, but I used to be one of the only white kids when I was in high school and I got told plenty of times not to fool with black girls, but I do have to admit that in general the black kids I knew growing up were much cooler about the race thing than any of my white friends were.
Let em stare - be a bigger person than they are. Be proud of knowing that inside we're all the same anyways. Don't just give up.
I was just checking out your pics, nice pics.
Shin Asura
Nov 20, 2004, 07:04
I don't want to go to Japan and have every Japanese person stare at me and give me a disgusted glare, for one it's going to be a waste of money and two, I'll be destroyed.
Here I've been liking a culture for so long and I find out that I may not be openly welcomed there, sure I'll be able to go and interact with people, but will that person want to with me? chances are they won't.
I've really liked Japan for the longest time, but these things are starting to get to me!
Yeah I know, don't let it get you down, that's easy for you guys to say. What positive aspect is there for me to look forward to?
Do you base your entire level of enjoyment on the way that people look at you? If you're not interested in seeing the sights in Japan and experiencing the culture, regardless of the way that you're stared at, then you probably don't need to be in Japan.
okaeri_man
Nov 20, 2004, 08:50
I don't want to go to Japan and have every Japanese person stare at me and give me a disgusted glare, for one it's going to be a waste of money and two, I'll be destroyed.
oh cmon, it's character building for one. are you tall? maybe you remind them of bob sapp, and they're just waiting for you to do something crazy and barbaric.
i tend to be cheeky if i feel like japanese people are starring at me too much. maybe that's my australian sense of personality coming through, but i think it works. if i was in the situation where i thought everybody looked at me more than usual, i would stick a piece of paper on my back saying something like "MIRU NA, KONO NAMAIKI NIHONJIN YAROU". or maybe something not quite extreme - have a magic trick up your sleeve ready to perform at the groups of gawking onlookers. just stop in front of them, get their attention and perform a trick. at least now they'll be starring for a good reason.
Flashjeff
Nov 20, 2004, 20:49
I don't want to go to Japan and have every Japanese person stare at me and give me a disgusted glare, for one it's going to be a waste of money and two, I'll be destroyed.
I've really liked Japan for the longest time, but these things are starting to get to me!
Yeah I know, don't let it get you down, that's easy for you guys to say. What positive aspect is there for me to look forward to?
Maybe I wasn't paying attention because I don't care what people think of me, but I'm African-American, and when I was in Japan in August of 2003, I had a great time, wasn't stared or glared at or anything. Even went to a concert (Pink Lady) and wasn't given the hairy eyeball, and at 6-2, I stood out like Yao Ming at a midget convention! People treated me well, from Tokyo to Yokohama to the Ginza and more, so I had no problems.
If you're gonna worry and get paranoid about being stared harshly at, you'll never get to explore the world and see its sights. People the world over are going to have their viewpoints and misconceptions about folks who are different than them, but those narrow minded individuals are a minority. Thanks to my years in the Navy, I've traveled the world over and seen many different cultures and got to interact with people who treated me well and respected me.
You can't let fear of what other people think rule your life, if they're gonna stare, then stare right back, don't let 'em see you sweat! Works for me! The positive is the chance to visit one of the truly great cities in the world that's Tokyo, it's an experience that shouldn't be missed by a Japanophile. Don't let fear keep you from experiencing the wonders of that great country!
PopCulturePooka
Nov 20, 2004, 22:02
The thing I'd be more concerned about is this:
Awhile ago, I took two Japanese girls out and we ran into a group of Japanese tourists, all they did was stare at us, one of the girls I took out has an I don't want to be here look. I took them home and never called them again.
The fact that a girl is happy to be with you UNTIL she is seen by 'disapprving' Japanese, then she looks uncomfortable. You don't need that noise. Well done in palming them off if they are that shallow.
Suki-Yaki
Nov 20, 2004, 22:41
i find what you say very irreasonable , you were walking in a country where foreign Japanese gave you a disgusted look cause you are black ..?? yeah ..??
Im sorry but this is rather funny :D :D :D :D
chikazukiyasui
Nov 22, 2004, 18:14
I was walking with my Japanese friend at school today and there were so many Japanese students giving me bad looks. When I got home, I emailed her and asked why Japanese people don't like black people. She told me that she thinks it's because Japanese people think that cultures are supposed to stay together and not mix with one another.
Is it because Japan has been so closed to foreigners for the longest time, I think there was an Emperor that made it illegal for foreigners to visit Japan awhile ago, I guess this is still in the Japanese minds, even today.
That's pretty sad if you ask me.
Awhile ago, I took two Japanese girls out and we ran into a group of Japanese tourists, all they did was stare at us, one of the girls I took out has an I don't want to be here look. I took them home and never called them again.
I don't want to be a target for staring everytime I go out with my Japanese friends or maybe one day I find a Japanese girlfriend, but I'm thinking that will never happen.
This post is strange. Are you sure they were staring at you because you were black? Are you sure there wasn't maybe a strange message on his tee-shirt? Was your fly undone? Do you look like someone famous? Where were you? Maybe those tourists were wondering if they could talk to your friends? Why have you not spoken to your friends since?
no. some foreigners go there strictly to date women, and they are giving ALL foreigners a bad name
some people got serious beef with the u.s. about that tourist that was killed also
so the beef may have nothing to do with being of color, but of being american
"What positive aspect is there for me to look forward to?"
don't date anyone and just enjoy the culture and the sights
the buildings are still the same
if HAPPENING to see someone dropping dirty looks, smile at them. it hurts so bad, believe me
Uncle Frank
Nov 23, 2004, 09:38
Everytime I went to a small town with my girl I was stared at like I had two heads and a green body. I loved it! I used to think , this must be how it is for a rock star that was disaproved of by the older croud. Who cares what others think , enjoy the moment & the one you're with.
Frank
:blush:
PopCulturePooka
Nov 23, 2004, 19:56
no. some foreigners go there strictly to date women, and they are giving ALL foreigners a bad name
some people got serious beef with the u.s. about that tourist that was killed also
so the beef may have nothing to do with being of color, but of being american
"What positive aspect is there for me to look forward to?"
don't date anyone and just enjoy the culture and the sights
the buildings are still the same
if HAPPENING to see someone dropping dirty looks, smile at them. it hurts so bad, believe me
I figure the death stare of doom, their dirty look aplified, refined and shot abck, works even better.
My fave day was when I was a bit beered up. I sat on a train, quietly and unobtrosively I might add, when an old lady that was next to me got up and MOVED a few seats down away from me. So being a bit courageous, I got up and moved back next too her. She did it again. So did I.
FUN!
mad pierrot
Nov 23, 2004, 19:59
You can't let fear of what other people think rule your life, if they're gonna stare, then stare right back, don't let 'em see you sweat! Works for me! The positive is the chance to visit one of the truly great cities in the world that's Tokyo, it's an experience that shouldn't be missed by a Japanophile. Don't let fear keep you from experiencing the wonders of that great country!
I couldn't have said it better.
:cool:
RockLee
Nov 23, 2004, 21:15
I figure the death stare of doom, their dirty look aplified, refined and shot abck, works even better.
My fave day was when I was a bit beered up. I sat on a train, quietly and unobtrosively I might add, when an old lady that was next to me got up and MOVED a few seats down away from me. So being a bit courageous, I got up and moved back next too her. She did it again. So did I.
FUN!hahhaa...well she didn't move because you were american, but because you prolly smelled like a beerkeg or looked like some drunk hobo :D :p
PopCulturePooka
Nov 23, 2004, 21:22
hahhaa...well she didn't move because you were american, but because you prolly smelled like a beerkeg or looked like some drunk hobo :D :p
Nah. I wasn't that drunk at all.
Unoticeable in fact (and smelling on Pi by Givenchy).
Just silly enough to be able to decide to harass a racist old crone:D
Oh BTW Im aussie.
bossel
Nov 23, 2004, 23:30
Just silly enough to be able to decide to harass a racist old crone:D
Whereby you probably just reinforced her prejudice.
PopCulturePooka
Nov 23, 2004, 23:35
Whereby you probably just reinforced her prejudice.
Tough for her.
She reinforced some of my opinions about old people.
Uncle Frank
Nov 24, 2004, 03:39
Tough for her.
She reinforced some of my opinions about old people.
Let's not go picking on us ol farts!!
"The Crazy Ol Guy"
Frank
:D :blush:
"She reinforced some of my opinions about old people."
people there just don't like to sit next to each other on trains period
i seen plenty of japanese guys get up and move down or away from each other, and they looked close in age + didn't smell (as far as i could tell)
most lucky that old woman didn't have no heart attack and the other folks call the police (as a result)
sgt. Pepper
Nov 24, 2004, 06:03
I don't know anyone in Sweden that likes to sit next to people on busses etc either. If there is two seats somewhere, don't sit next to me. X( Unless it's a cute girl..
Timsan
Nov 24, 2004, 07:16
Everytime I went to a small town with my girl I was stared at like I had two heads and a green body. I loved it! I used to think , this must be how it is for a rock star that was disaproved of by the older croud. Who cares what others think , enjoy the moment & the one you're with.
Frank
:blush:
Frank makes the best point in my opinion.
Just be proud of who you are, be proud of your skin color, be proud of your ethnicity. **** the simpletons who have a problem with inter-racial relationships, just know that you are a better person then those who look down upon you.
Mishima_Kazuya
Nov 24, 2004, 08:08
oro..orororoo.! if i were out with a jap gurl and ppl were sdtaring at us in a way that i did not like i would get up and challenge then then 1 guy would come up to me and evey1 would crown around and we would b standing there then some1 would yell fight and the jump up and put my heel in his mouth knock his teth out! :D and he would fall to the floor K.O. then all the other ppl crownding around would pick up knifes bottles anything to beat me with then i would grab the gurl starting running with her thn a couple of them would catch up id tell her to stay back then i would take then out with a few deadly combos like the law in tekken 3 u cant fk with me hahahahah! :D :D :D hen we would run jump on a nice clean jap train with no1 on it then it would start raining and all the intensity would make her crazy!!! wink wink ahhaha. then we go back jap apartment hahah "say WTF!"
bossel
Nov 24, 2004, 08:08
Tough for her.
Well, she'll probably tell others about it. Such stuff goes round & it will come back to you & maybe others with darker skin (if she makes a racial issue of it). Maybe you should think a bit into the future before harassing people, even if you're "a bit beered up." Sometimes it's a nice move to be a bit reserved.
PopCulturePooka
Nov 24, 2004, 09:20
"She reinforced some of my opinions about old people."
people there just don't like to sit next to each other on trains period
i seen plenty of japanese guys get up and move down or away from each other, and they looked close in age + didn't smell (as far as i could tell)
most lucky that old woman didn't have no heart attack and the other folks call the police (as a result)
We are talking Japan. You SIT next to people. You have crotchs and arses mushed into you. You have people sleep on your shoulder. One guy in a suit is NOT offensive here.
Well, she'll probably tell others about it. Such stuff goes round & it will come back to you & maybe others with darker skin (if she makes a racial issue of it). Maybe you should think a bit into the future before harassing people, even if you're "a bit beered up." Sometimes it's a nice move to be a bit reserved.I give back whats given to me. Why be reserved? Why let her win her petty little games?
bossel
Nov 24, 2004, 09:34
Why be reserved?
You really don't understand, do you? Oh well...
PopCulturePooka
Nov 24, 2004, 09:41
You really don't understand, do you? Oh well...
She showed no reserve. She acted rude in the first place. If you're trying to hint that in Japan people are reserved than how does it explain her?
Not that I believe the whole 'Japanese are resevred' stereotype is true.
"She acted rude in the first place."
what did she say?
what did she do?
PopCulturePooka
Nov 25, 2004, 08:17
I see getting up and moving away for no real good reason after glowering at me and clutching her bag rude.
was it the first time she got up? or the second or third?
bossel
Nov 25, 2004, 08:34
I see getting up and moving away for no real good reason after glowering at me and clutching her bag rude.
So what? I don't really see your problem with it. Maybe you really smelled "beery" or looked like a drunkard? Or she simply disliked your clothing.
Can't see why it should be necessarily racist motivated.
Even if it was racist, so what? With your behaviour you only reinforced any racial prejudice, as I said before. Behaving politely & respectfully may have done the opposite. You may have even asked her politely if you'd done anything wrong.
Although, considering you being "beered up", probably the best move would have been just to let it be.
Tateishi
Nov 25, 2004, 10:47
I figure the death stare of doom, their dirty look aplified, refined and shot abck, works even better.
My fave day was when I was a bit beered up. I sat on a train, quietly and unobtrosively I might add, when an old lady that was next to me got up and MOVED a few seats down away from me. So being a bit courageous, I got up and moved back next too her. She did it again. So did I.
FUN!
That sounds pretty harmless to me, don't know what all the fuss is all about. Would have been funny to watch.
cyber ape
Nov 25, 2004, 15:16
Well, I know that when I see a white guy hitting on an Asian female I get offended and want to stop them, even if they're no one I know and the Asian isn't my blood.
Well, I can't speak for Japan, so I really don't know. I never had a problem with anyone, until I moved here. Now, I really, really DESPISE caucasians. Of course, I look Caucasian, so everbody thinks I'm just a contradicting self-hating fool. Oh well.
PopCulturePooka
Nov 25, 2004, 21:03
was it the first time she got up? or the second or third?
First time. As soon as I sat down she clutched her bag close, hesitated and jittered off.
So what? I don't really see your problem with it. Maybe you really smelled "beery" or looked like a drunkard? Or she simply disliked your clothing.
Can't see why it should be necessarily racist motivated. My clothing was a simplky HORRID business suit. You know, that HORRIBLE style people wear in business or too look professional? The real offensive stuff.
Reagrding drunkness. I had a FEW beers that night. I was not parlytic exposing myself spew drunk. I was 'well I am working early tomorrow but Japanese business ettiquette dictates when staff ask you too come drinking you politley have a beer or two and leave' drunk. As in not very. Heightend courage. More than likely still under the Australian legal driving BAC of 0.05% alcohol. Like I said earlier imperceptible.
No I only see ONE reason she moved. I = not Japanese.
Even if it was racist, so what? With your behaviour you only reinforced any racial prejudice, as I said before. Behaving politely & respectfully may have done the opposite. You may have even asked her politely if you'd done anything wrong.Can't speak very good Japanese too ask her.
And like I said, HER behaviour reinforced my perception of aged people, particularly Japanese aged. And she acted FIRST.
I'm not an arsehole. Today I was on the courtesy seat of the train. Where I was there 6 seats. All taken. Me, two 20'ish girls, a young middle aged women, a schoolboy and a salaryman. An old guy got on the train, cane and hobble included. Walked to the courtesy seats. Out of the 6 who was the one that got up and agve up his seat? Clue for the dense: It wasnt the schoolboy, the salaryman or the three women.
Although, considering you being "beered up", probably the best move would have been just to let it be.Meh.
Well, I know that when I see a white guy hitting on an Asian female I get offended and want to stop them, even if they're no one I know and the Asian isn't my blood.
Well, I can't speak for Japan, so I really don't know. I never had a problem with anyone, until I moved here. Now, I really, really DESPISE caucasians. Of course, I look Caucasian, so everbody thinks I'm just a contradicting self-hating fool. Oh well.
So, I get called for sitting next to a racist old bat, but a guy says he hates caucasians, especially men that talk to asian girls, even ones not his 'blood' and no-one says a word? Is this a bit odd to anyone else?
So we caucasians seemed damned if we do, damned if we dont. If we 'hit on' an asian girl, even one that may WANT too be hit on you want to stop them? Yet if we ignored a girl talking to us someone would be bleating that we are rude and racist for not wanting to talk too them. Win-win right here!
Another train story from tonight. Happened on a later train to the getting up for the old guy train. Stepped onto the train into a carriage of high school girls. The less 'innocent' looking type mainly. Now I had my punk style hair today (not I did NOT have that hair during the old lady incident). As in big spikes of hair using gel. As soon as I step on the train I here gasps and giggles from the schoolgirls. Look up and some are looking at me. I smile then put my head down and start listening to music. A few seconds later I feel something touching my hair. look up to see one of the braver girls touching my spikes. She pulls back but I'm like 'daijyobu' and suddenly I have a pack of schoolgirls molesting my punk hairstyle and asking me questions. Quite a highlight for the day.
Now, Mr C Ape. would you want to stop that?
sgt. Pepper
Nov 26, 2004, 03:22
Cyber ape: Wtf, what did i do? O__o
Shin Asura
Nov 26, 2004, 07:13
no. some foreigners go there strictly to date women, and they are giving ALL foreigners a bad name
some people got serious beef with the u.s. about that tourist that was killed also
so the beef may have nothing to do with being of color, but of being american
"What positive aspect is there for me to look forward to?"
don't date anyone and just enjoy the culture and the sights
the buildings are still the same
if HAPPENING to see someone dropping dirty looks, smile at them. it hurts so bad, believe me
Thanks for the advice, I'll try.
This post is strange. Are you sure they were staring at you because you were black? Are you sure there wasn't maybe a strange message on his tee-shirt? Was your fly undone? Do you look like someone famous? Where were you? Maybe those tourists were wondering if they could talk to your friends? Why have you not spoken to your friends since?
If not that then why did the girls I was with react the way they did. They obviously were having trouble dealing with our walking by the Japanese tourists.
I don't wear strange t-shirts.
No, that never happens to me. I always double and triple check it when I'm out.
No, I look like myself, the reason they stared at us is because I was black and the girls I was with were Japanese.
I was at the MGM hotel
No, I think they had enough Japanese girls in their group that they didn't need to talk to the girls I was with.
They were obviously uncomfortable with me being out with them. When I first met them at school, they seemed interested in knowing me. Don't really know someone until you get out in the public eye.
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Most Japanese don't encounter racism because they never go outside of Japan, a lot don't even know what the word means. Only the few that come to the US and are able to live here for awhile encounter it.
People in this thread that say it's funny or this thread doesn't make sense will never understand what it's like for a black, latino, or any minority individual.
Before you make a silly remark, you need to check and triple check what you're going to say so it does not sound offensive to other people.
bossel
Nov 26, 2004, 08:48
So, I get called for sitting next to a racist old bat, but a guy says he hates caucasians, especially men that talk to asian girls, even ones not his 'blood' and no-one says a word? Is this a bit odd to anyone else?
Not too odd. For you, there is still hope. But this ape seems slightly beyond reason.
PopCulturePooka
Nov 26, 2004, 09:55
Not too odd. For you, there is still hope. But this ape seems slightly beyond reason.
Actually, after reading some other posts by the ape, some things don't add up. At all.
EG:
Here (http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146349&postcount=135)
Well, I've only been to Okinawa for a week and to Tokyo, well, for only one day, so I know little of Japan, but I do watch the little Japanese programming I receive here and everytime I watch it I just wanna cry. I'm like,"They treat it like life, I treat it like paradise." Seriously, although I was only 7, going to Japan was just great. Unfortunately since I'm not only HALF Japanese(which, I don't really look Japanese, but I'm still 50% and thus act it), so I look more like a gaijin, but since I've been here I've had to re-learn the language. Anyways, all I've ever seen is how great atleast Tokyo is. OK, so, granted it may be difficult finding work, mainly because my parents have no interest in going and don't know anything of the language, but even so. I just love my country. So he hates any caucasians but he isn't a 'full blood' Japanese? Self loathing?
Here (http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146354&postcount=95) he shows taht he deosn't even know what a Japanese futon is.
This post (http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146358&postcount=234) speaks volumes itself, particularly things like:
Manga & Anime: Of course! Seriously, I can't find a single Jap who DOESN'T like one or the other. I mean, they come in all genres for all ages. I don't see why there'd be an opposition, cept by gaijins totally misinterpreting anime. "Why's their hair blue? " *ugh*
which is a blatant untruth
or here:
Video games: They started it all! Again, all ages, all genres. I am an absolute DDR FREAK! I remember when I first played DDR in Tokyo. I sucked and was laughed at, but then when I found the local American Arcade got it I tried it. Again no good, but then Playstation had it, and THAT did it.
Japan didn't did they?
Japanese language: Well, I love it because of the way it sounds, but the sentence structure always made me mad. I like the language, but I wish they'd invent words instead of just taking ours. I know they're foreign but even so. Nobu? Key? Dooru? Takshii? Come on!Wait is he Japanese or not? Now he is referring to Japanese as they, not we. And foreigners, which make him angry, as ours and we. WTF?
Japanese food: Man, even the ignorant gaijins I have to put up with every day love Japanese food. *sigh* yet he seems very much to be one himself.
Plus why is continuously referring to himself or other Japanese as Japs? Somethings not right with the ape.
Oh and bossel I resent the implication in your post that I am racist. I am FAR FAR FAR from racist. For whats its worth I was arrested at a protest in Australia, protesting AGAINST a racist xenophobic politican. I just have a low tolerance for stupid or annoying people, regardless of race or creed.
bossel
Nov 26, 2004, 14:40
Oh and bossel I resent the implication in your post that I am racist.
There was no such implication. I usually don't imply anything.
cyber ape
Nov 28, 2004, 11:48
"Now, Mr C Ape. would you want to stop that?"
If I saw a man with spiked hair, I too would likely be enticed to touch, or atleast marvel. Either way, I'd be more at ease in Japan, mainly because I wouldn't be as unhappy there as I am here.
"So he hates any caucasians but he isn't a 'full blood' Japanese? Self loathing?"
You know, I never said the other half. For all you know I could be 50 % Japanese, 50 % Indian. If you must know, I'm 50 % Japanese, 25 % Greek, 20% Caucasian, 5% Egyptian. I don't care if it's self-loathing or not. I will unabashedly say that I highly DISLIKE Caucasians.
"Cyber ape: Wtf, what did i do? O__o"
Nothing?
"Here he shows taht he deosn't even know what a Japanese futon is."
So? I didn't know of Doraemon until August...
"Japan didn't did they?"
'Fraid so. Konami is a Japanese company.
"sigh* yet he seems very much to be one himself."
I'm a foreigner?
"Plus why is continuously referring to himself or other Japanese as Japs? Somethings not right with the ape."
I apologize if I don't believe in the racial ephitet. Firstly because it is the associative term used by the majority of my friends, mainly to infringe on the fact that it is often misconstrued as a racial comment, but also because, you wouldn't say ,"I am a Japanese." You say "I am Japanese" or "I am a Jap."
seimeinogakusei
Nov 28, 2004, 15:29
You know, I never said the other half.
Hmm...that's odd your sig in your profile says:
"Ugh, I'm a round-eyed, white Jap in America, whom no one believes is Japanese at all. What could possibly be worse?"
Am I missing something here?
I don't care if it's self-loathing or not. I will unabashedly say that I highly DISLIKE Caucasians.
You know that's really sad. So, I guess that means you don't like that parent with Caucasian bloodline. What you said is far from healthy. Really, you have got to learn to accept yourself.
I'm a foreigner?
Didn't you say you went to Japan? I have no idea if you noticed, but being of mixed ancestry kind of makes you a foreigner. You did say you have Greek, Caucasian, and Egyptian ancestry. None of which are native to Japan, therefore, you are considered a foreigner.
I apologize if I don't believe in the racial ephitet. Firstly because it is the associative term used by the majority of my friends, mainly to infringe on the fact that it is often misconstrued as a racial comment, but also because, you wouldn't say ,"I am a Japanese." You say "I am Japanese" or "I am a Jap."
I suppose that is no different than how some blacks in the US use a certain derogatory word amongst each other. However, I must warn you some Japanese people (my friend included) detest such words. So, be careful of who you use that word around.
Kei_Shugojin
Nov 28, 2004, 16:07
"Now, Mr C Ape. would you want to stop that?"
If I saw a man with spiked hair, I too would likely be enticed to touch, or atleast marvel. Either way, I'd be more at ease in Japan, mainly because I wouldn't be as unhappy there as I am here.
"So he hates any caucasians but he isn't a 'full blood' Japanese? Self loathing?"
You know, I never said the other half. For all you know I could be 50 % Japanese, 50 % Indian. If you must know, I'm 50 % Japanese, 25 % Greek, 20% Caucasian, 5% Egyptian. I don't care if it's self-loathing or not. I will unabashedly say that I highly DISLIKE Caucasians.
"Cyber ape: Wtf, what did i do? O__o"
Nothing?
"Here he shows taht he deosn't even know what a Japanese futon is."
So? I didn't know of Doraemon until August...
"Japan didn't did they?"
'Fraid so. Konami is a Japanese company.
"sigh* yet he seems very much to be one himself."
I'm a foreigner?
"Plus why is continuously referring to himself or other Japanese as Japs? Somethings not right with the ape."
I apologize if I don't believe in the racial ephitet. Firstly because it is the associative term used by the majority of my friends, mainly to infringe on the fact that it is often misconstrued as a racial comment, but also because, you wouldn't say ,"I am a Japanese." You say "I am Japanese" or "I am a Jap."
1. What does that have to do with the relationships between caucasians and asians? Why do you even care what race they are so long as their feelings are real? This isn't rape or molestation etc., so there's no reason to get angry over it. So quit making comments like that before you make somone (i.e., me) sick.
2. Now, why do you DISLIKE Caucasians? Did you have a bad experience with each and every single caucasian on the planet that caused you to dislike them? That'd be pretty damn difficult, I think.
3. No comment, as I really don't know what's going on with that conversation.
4. again, no comment.
5. Now, I'm sorry, but you are blatantly wrong about that. The first video games were released in america.
The very first video game was called "Spacewar", and was developed by Steve Russell as an add-on to a television to make it better than all other televisions. This game was eventually updated later in the future and re-released with simplified controls as "Asteroids".
The first arcade games were made by an american based company called "Service Games", headed up by a Korean war veteran named David Rosen. This company was later sold/relocated (I can't really remember, and I don't have the time/patience to dig up my old paper on the subject). This company was named "SEGA".
Let's not forget Atari, Magnavox, Coleco, and others. The main reason that video games are based in Japan right now is that the Famicom rejuvenated the business after the video game crash of the early 1980s, in which most american based companies went into a steep decline. And even after that, American companies kept making games.
So, I'm sorry, but you are just plain wrong on that.
for more info, go to this site- http://www.gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/hov/index.html
6. I believe he's referring to the fact that you are claiming to defend the interests of Japanese, without really being one. Now, no offense, but that would be a little bit like a white person talking from a personal perspective about how blacks are mistreated. It comes off as arrogant.
7. Well, I don't know if you know this, but "Jap" was a derrogatory term used by american troops to refer to the Japanese during WWII, so it shouldn't be used lightly, unless of course you like offending people who might know what it really means.
sgt. Pepper
Nov 29, 2004, 07:13
"Cyber ape: Wtf, what did i do? O__o"
Nothing?
Why do you dislike me then?
:souka:
cyber ape
Nov 29, 2004, 10:13
"Why do you dislike me then?"
I do?
"Am I missing something here?"
There are people of white complexion in every country.
"You know that's really sad. So, I guess that means you don't like that parent with Caucasian bloodline. What you said is far from healthy. Really, you have got to learn to accept yourself."
I accept myself just fine. So what if I don't like the parent of Caucasian bloodline? There isn't a rule saying in order to live life to the fullest you must love either of your parents.
"Didn't you say you went to Japan? I have no idea if you noticed, but being of mixed ancestry kind of makes you a foreigner. You did say you have Greek, Caucasian, and Egyptian ancestry. None of which are native to Japan, therefore, you are considered a foreigner."
So, even though the majority of my blood is Japanese and I was born in Okinawa, I'm a foreigner? Damn, that sucks.
"So, be careful of who you use that word around."
I'm highly aware. I really only call myself and my friends "that word".
"1. What does that have to do with the relationships between caucasians and asians? Why do you even care what race they are so long as their feelings are real? This isn't rape or molestation etc., so there's no reason to get angry over it. So quit making comments like that before you make somone (i.e., me) sick."
Well, perhaps mad wasn't the right word. This really has more to do with my past. I've moved on past this infantile block, but you'd really have to know more about my life to know why I get the way I do around Caucasians.
"2. Now, why do you DISLIKE Caucasians? Did you have a bad experience with each and every single caucasian on the planet that caused you to dislike them? That'd be pretty damn difficult, I think."
I never specified the quantity of Caucasians. I guess I'll just have to be literal around this place. I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians. Actually, I don't even mean that. I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia.
"5. Now, I'm sorry, but you are blatantly wrong about that. The first video games were released in america."
What are you talking about? I didn't say the first video games weren't, I said DDR was invented in Japan. Iuno what you're babbling about :?
"6. I believe he's referring to the fact that you are claiming to defend the interests of Japanese, without really being one. Now, no offense, but that would be a little bit like a white person talking from a personal perspective about how blacks are mistreated. It comes off as arrogant."
I talk about how African Americans are being mistreated all the time XD. Look, when I say we, I'm talking about the people. If I were in India, would I say "They have great food, weather, government, entertainment, etc"? No! I'd say "WE", although I'm not the least bit Indian.
"7. Well, I don't know if you know this, but "Jap" was a derrogatory term used by american troops to refer to the Japanese during WWII, so it shouldn't be used lightly, unless of course you like offending people who might know what it really means."
I'm well aware of that. I apologize if I like to give it a more coherent, less racial meaning -_-
And by the way, why are you all trying to gang-up on me? I signed up here so I could meet and talk about Japan and the Japanese, not so I could enter a one-sided exploiting war.
Kei_Shugojin
Nov 29, 2004, 11:34
"Why do you dislike me then?"
I do?
"Am I missing something here?"
There are people of white complexion in every country.
"You know that's really sad. So, I guess that means you don't like that parent with Caucasian bloodline. What you said is far from healthy. Really, you have got to learn to accept yourself."
I accept myself just fine. So what if I don't like the parent of Caucasian bloodline? There isn't a rule saying in order to live life to the fullest you must love either of your parents.
"Didn't you say you went to Japan? I have no idea if you noticed, but being of mixed ancestry kind of makes you a foreigner. You did say you have Greek, Caucasian, and Egyptian ancestry. None of which are native to Japan, therefore, you are considered a foreigner."
So, even though the majority of my blood is Japanese and I was born in Okinawa, I'm a foreigner? Damn, that sucks.
"So, be careful of who you use that word around."
I'm highly aware. I really only call myself and my friends "that word".
"1. What does that have to do with the relationships between caucasians and asians? Why do you even care what race they are so long as their feelings are real? This isn't rape or molestation etc., so there's no reason to get angry over it. So quit making comments like that before you make somone (i.e., me) sick."
Well, perhaps mad wasn't the right word. This really has more to do with my past. I've moved on past this infantile block, but you'd really have to know more about my life to know why I get the way I do around Caucasians.
"2. Now, why do you DISLIKE Caucasians? Did you have a bad experience with each and every single caucasian on the planet that caused you to dislike them? That'd be pretty damn difficult, I think."
I never specified the quantity of Caucasians. I guess I'll just have to be literal around this place. I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians. Actually, I don't even mean that. I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia.
"5. Now, I'm sorry, but you are blatantly wrong about that. The first video games were released in america."
What are you talking about? I didn't say the first video games weren't, I said DDR was invented in Japan. Iuno what you're babbling about :?
"6. I believe he's referring to the fact that you are claiming to defend the interests of Japanese, without really being one. Now, no offense, but that would be a little bit like a white person talking from a personal perspective about how blacks are mistreated. It comes off as arrogant."
I talk about how African Americans are being mistreated all the time XD. Look, when I say we, I'm talking about the people. If I were in India, would I say "They have great food, weather, government, entertainment, etc"? No! I'd say "WE", although I'm not the least bit Indian.
"7. Well, I don't know if you know this, but "Jap" was a derrogatory term used by american troops to refer to the Japanese during WWII, so it shouldn't be used lightly, unless of course you like offending people who might know what it really means."
I'm well aware of that. I apologize if I like to give it a more coherent, less racial meaning -_-
And by the way, why are you all trying to gang-up on me? I signed up here so I could meet and talk about Japan and the Japanese, not so I could enter a one-sided exploiting war.
"I accept myself just fine. So what if I don't like the parent of Caucasian bloodline? There isn't a rule saying in order to live life to the fullest you must love either of your parents."
Do you hate your relative simply because he's white? or is it for some other reason? Yes, there isn't a rule against hating your parents, but it seems rather strange when the reason is "They're white", rather thatn "They left me and my mother when I was a kid to hold up a drug habit", or something along those lines.
"Well, perhaps mad wasn't the right word. This really has more to do with my past. I've moved on past this infantile block, but you'd really have to know more about my life to know why I get the way I do around Caucasians."
Y'know, I get real mad when people go "You have to know more about my life" as an excuse for their behavior. And you obviously aren't over it, so quit acting like that.
"I never specified the quantity of Caucasians. I guess I'll just have to be literal around this place. I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians. Actually, I don't even mean that. I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia."
Then specify that next time, rather than making a blanket statement. Think before you type. And, just for the record, there are bad people everywhere, regardless of race. My friends and I have met some pretty mean hispanic gangs around where I live (Texas), but I don't go making a blanket statement saying "I hate all Hispanics", simply because I've had some bad experiences in the past. That's just childish.
"What are you talking about? I didn't say the first video games weren't, I said DDR was invented in Japan. Iuno what you're babbling about :?"
Well, you were talking about video games being made in Japan. That was taken to mean that the Japanese invented video games, rather than just rejuvenating the industry after the early 1980's and the video game crash.
"I talk about how African Americans are being mistreated all the time XD. Look, when I say we, I'm talking about the people. If I were in India, would I say "They have great food, weather, government, entertainment, etc"? No! I'd say "WE", although I'm not the least bit Indian."
but you're not in Japan. You're in America. So quit acting like you're a freedom fighter of some kind.
"I'm well aware of that. I apologize if I like to give it a more coherent, less racial meaning -_-"
Why do you use the term, anyway? If I knew you, I'd be afraid to take you out in public for fear of you offending someone. Just watch your mouth.
"And by the way, why are you all trying to gang-up on me? I signed up here so I could meet and talk about Japan and the Japanese, not so I could enter a one-sided exploiting war"
I'm sorry, but you started making racial comments, as well as other offensive and arrogant remarks that would more than likely piss alot of people off. We're not ganging up on you. We're just defending ourselves by refuting your remarks. Would you be happier if we just concurred and said "You're right. All Caucasians should die." and went home and commited suicide? Well, go somewhere else then, because most NORMAL people don't tolerate that.
Kenshin89
Nov 29, 2004, 11:39
Wow...I never really thought there was racism outside the US until I saw this...never really thought about it actually.
seimeinogakusei
Nov 29, 2004, 15:38
"I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia."
Ah, so you know the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia. Okay...I'm guessing by that statement you meant the majority of Caucasians you've come in contact with while in Georgia.
And by the way, why are you all trying to gang-up on me? I signed up here so I could meet and talk about Japan and the Japanese, not so I could enter a one-sided exploiting war.
Kei_Shugojin basically said what I was thinking...except for that ending. That was a bit extreme, but I got the point. You can't expect people to just nod and agree to everything you say. Besides, what made this a one-sided exploiting war? I don't remember waging war against you or anyone else here...care to explain that one?
Wow...I never really thought there was racism outside the US until I saw this...never really thought about it actually.
Of course there is. Racism is a horrible little thing that spreads through ignorance. I could name a good amount of countries with the problem, but that's another story and would go completely off the initial topic.
ffrost_nova622
Nov 29, 2004, 15:50
I was walking with my Japanese friend at school today and there were so many Japanese students giving me bad looks. When I got home, I emailed her and asked why Japanese people don't like black people. She told me that she thinks it's because Japanese people think that cultures are supposed to stay together and not mix with one another.
Is it because Japan has been so closed to foreigners for the longest time, I think there was an Emperor that made it illegal for foreigners to visit Japan awhile ago, I guess this is still in the Japanese minds, even today.
That's pretty sad if you ask me.
Awhile ago, I took two Japanese girls out and we ran into a group of Japanese tourists, all they did was stare at us, one of the girls I took out has an I don't want to be here look. I took them home and never called them again.
I don't want to be a target for staring everytime I go out with my Japanese friends or maybe one day I find a Japanese girlfriend, but I'm thinking that will never happen.
fully racism...jst ignore them n keep walking n if they come up n insult them kill em all! muhahahaha
Kei_Shugojin
Nov 30, 2004, 03:45
It's something that I thought would die out eventually, but it appears to be a human trait to discriminate based on generalizations and false beliefs. Here's my opinion: No race is any better than the other. The only things that determine the quality of a human being is what's inside his heart. I know that sounds rather corny, but it's true. I've never based my opinion on someone based on their skin color. I've usually looked them over to determine what they may be like, based on how they dress/groom themselves (key words: MAY be like), then I develope my opinion after I've talked to them.
It's difficult to develope that as a habit, but it's much easier in the long run.
Now I don't know where some people get off saying "I have Japanese blood. I am superior." That reminds me a great deal of the Nazis, with "I have German blood. I am superior." That sort of attitude never bodes well with anyone. It doesn't matter wether you're German, Japanese, American, whatever. It doesn't matter where you were born and raised. It doesn't matter where you live. All humans were created with equal potential, no matter what they're made of. We're all Human.
So, to all you racist persons out there, I'll just say...
Deal with it.
Ma Cherie
Nov 30, 2004, 04:03
Racism is everywhere, it could be worse in some parts of world than it is in the U.S.
Now, these rumors about how japanese people view blacks is beginning to disturb me. I'm not trying to start anything here, but how do japanese people view blacks.
I would really like to know. :?
Bob in Iowa
Nov 30, 2004, 05:06
In my opinion, racism is a manifestation of the fear and loathing resulting from ignorance. Individually, it can be overcome through one person learning to appreciate the humanity of others. Collectively, it becomes more difficult when the ignorance within a group thrives on itself.
"I would really like to know."
there are about five or six threads with the same topic at jref
it gets asked about once a semester it seems like, along with various other ethnicities used in the place of "black"
and as posted in those same threads (and within this one as well), they are the same as anybody not of japanese blood (excepting the b or the indigenous a)
gl hth
cyber ape
Nov 30, 2004, 11:37
"Do you hate your relative simply because he's white? or is it for some other reason? Yes, there isn't a rule against hating your parents, but it seems rather strange when the reason is "They're white", rather thatn "They left me and my mother when I was a kid to hold up a drug habit", or something along those lines."
Did I say I hated my relative(s) because they're white? No, I did not. I don't care that they're white, it's how they act.
"Y'know, I get real mad when people go "You have to know more about my life" as an excuse for their behavior. And you obviously aren't over it, so quit acting like that."
Um, I AM over it. It was a facet that lasted all of about 3 days. And, if you must know, I've gone through the typical hero-to-zero scenario, where I was leading a fine life until I moved to this god-forsaken city. So, there, I hope you're happy I told you unnecessary-to-know info. Of course, if it's not enough, I couldn't care less. Either way, I'm over that infantile situation.
"Then specify that next time, rather than making a blanket statement. Think before you type. And, just for the record, there are bad people everywhere, regardless of race. My friends and I have met some pretty mean hispanic gangs around where I live (Texas), but I don't go making a blanket statement saying "I hate all Hispanics", simply because I've had some bad experiences in the past. That's just childish."
I suppose the word "exaggeration" perplexes you. I don't know every single Caucasian within the state of Georgia, so why would you assume I meant so? And, the reason why I made a statement so tribal is simple because it's a recurring theme. I may not know every Caucasian within the state or city for that matter, but humans like to assume, even if their assumption is off.
"Well, you were talking about video games being made in Japan. That was taken to mean that the Japanese invented video games, rather than just rejuvenating the industry after the early 1980's and the video game crash."
OK, I'm still behind on this. All I was saying was THE FIRST DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION ARCADE GAME CREATED BY KONAMI ORIGINATED IN JAPAN BEFORE ANY OTHER COUNTRY! I'm not saying the Japanese WERE THE VERY FIRST RACE TO CREATE A VIDEO GAME OR CONSOLE, I'm saying THEY CREATED THE DANCING EXTRAVAGANZE KNOWN AS DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION.
"but you're not in Japan. You're in America. So quit acting like you're a freedom fighter of some kind."
How am I acting like I'm a freedom fighter? Because I said I stand up for African American's rights often? What is with you people? I don't literally go picketting on the side-walk with signs reading,"Help our poor Africans!" Just, every now and then when the topic comes up I just give a pithy point-of-view.
"Why do you use the term, anyway? If I knew you, I'd be afraid to take you out in public for fear of you offending someone. Just watch your mouth."
Because it's not a term. It is not only an associative term used AMONG MY FRIENDS ONLY, but it is used to make sentences sound more correct.
"I'm sorry, but you started making racial comments, as well as other offensive and arrogant remarks that would more than likely piss alot of people off. We're not ganging up on you. We're just defending ourselves by refuting your remarks. Would you be happier if we just concurred and said "You're right. All Caucasians should die." and went home and commited suicide? Well, go somewhere else then, because most NORMAL people don't tolerate that."
Oh what, because I said I dislike Caucasians all the caucasians within the forum have to get in my face? You know, all I stated was my personal dislike; that's it. Notice I gave no examples as to why, unelss you count my scenario of them "picking in on chicks." I didn't say anything over-the-edge or racy, just that I disliked white people. Um, I don't want to be right you fool, I'm just saying that I dislike white people interacting with the asian opposite sex. Of course, I've grown past that now, but even so, you have a huge megalomaniacal problem. Well, I guess it'd be easier to call you blind. I see I can no longer safely give my opinion without someone complaining. It offends you huh? How do you think I feel having to quote all you guys who won't just go elsewhere?
"Oh, so you know the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia. Okay...I'm guessing by that statement you meant the majority of Caucasians you've come in contact with while in Georgia."
Nothing gets by you huh sleuth?
"Kei_Shugojin basically said what I was thinking...except for that ending. That was a bit extreme, but I got the point. You can't expect people to just nod and agree to everything you say. Besides, what made this a one-sided exploiting war? I don't remember waging war against you or anyone else here...care to explain that one?"
dude, what are your problems? I didn't ask for anyone to agree. I stated my opinion, not as if it were fact or as if to persuade or gain followers. Quit misconstruing things so badly. I don't much like being framed -_-. Oh yeah, one sided = in my favor ;)
Now to get back on topic, no, there isn't anything wrong with you hanging out with a Japanese person.
Kei_Shugojin
Dec 1, 2004, 08:27
"Do you hate your relative simply because he's white? or is it for some other reason? Yes, there isn't a rule against hating your parents, but it seems rather strange when the reason is "They're white", rather thatn "They left me and my mother when I was a kid to hold up a drug habit", or something along those lines."
Did I say I hated my relative(s) because they're white? No, I did not. I don't care that they're white, it's how they act.
Then why did you admit to hating your caucasian relatives? Why didn't you specify that?
"Y'know, I get real mad when people go "You have to know more about my life" as an excuse for their behavior. And you obviously aren't over it, so quit acting like that."
Um, I AM over it. It was a facet that lasted all of about 3 days. And, if you must know, I've gone through the typical hero-to-zero scenario, where I was leading a fine life until I moved to this god-forsaken city. So, there, I hope you're happy I told you unnecessary-to-know info. Of course, if it's not enough, I couldn't care less. Either way, I'm over that infantile situation.
What is so friggin bad about your city that you have to act like it's a vice? Everybody has problems, okay? Not just you. You sound like the rich kid who's dad lost most of his money and is now complaining about having to live in the Blue-collar family lifestyle.
"Then specify that next time, rather than making a blanket statement. Think before you type. And, just for the record, there are bad people everywhere, regardless of race. My friends and I have met some pretty mean hispanic gangs around where I live (Texas), but I don't go making a blanket statement saying "I hate all Hispanics", simply because I've had some bad experiences in the past. That's just childish."
I suppose the word "exaggeration" perplexes you. I don't know every single Caucasian within the state of Georgia, so why would you assume I meant so? And, the reason why I made a statement so tribal is simple because it's a recurring theme. I may not know every Caucasian within the state or city for that matter, but humans like to assume, even if their assumption is off.
I know the word "exaggeration" very well. I was pointing out that you couldn't make a blanket statement about every caucasian within the state of Georgia, even though that's exactly what you were doing. How you missed what I'm saying, I don't know. :okashii:
"Well, you were talking about video games being made in Japan. That was taken to mean that the Japanese invented video games, rather than just rejuvenating the industry after the early 1980's and the video game crash."
OK, I'm still behind on this. All I was saying was THE FIRST DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION ARCADE GAME CREATED BY KONAMI ORIGINATED IN JAPAN BEFORE ANY OTHER COUNTRY! I'm not saying the Japanese WERE THE VERY FIRST RACE TO CREATE A VIDEO GAME OR CONSOLE, I'm saying THEY CREATED THE DANCING EXTRAVAGANZE KNOWN AS DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION.
*ahem* I believe your quote was that the Japanese made video games. Nothing more, nothing less. So quit trying to say that you said something else, okay? It's just childish and it doesn't belong on this forum. By the way, I don't know if you noticed this, but your caps lock button got stuck.
"but you're not in Japan. You're in America. So quit acting like you're a freedom fighter of some kind."
How am I acting like I'm a freedom fighter? Because I said I stand up for African American's rights often? What is with you people? I don't literally go picketting on the side-walk with signs reading,"Help our poor Africans!" Just, every now and then when the topic comes up I just give a pithy point-of-view.
Actually, I was talking about some of your earlier comments, where you kept saying that caucasians treat asians like crap (which wasn't true) when you were part caucasian yourself. And I stated an example. Then you went off trying to change the subject. No, I don't criticize you for standing up for African-American rights. I do the same thing. What I do criticize is your statements about caucasians which are unfounded/untrue. You sounded like a member of the Neo-Nazis trying to make statements about how Jews are dangerous.
"Why do you use the term, anyway? If I knew you, I'd be afraid to take you out in public for fear of you offending someone. Just watch your mouth."
Because it's not a term. It is not only an associative term used AMONG MY FRIENDS ONLY, but it is used to make sentences sound more correct.
Why don't you try using something else, rather than something that was/is a racial insult against the japanese? And how the hell did you make friends? If your social skills are like this in real life, I don't know why anyone would want to be around you, much less befriend you.
"I'm sorry, but you started making racial comments, as well as other offensive and arrogant remarks that would more than likely piss alot of people off. We're not ganging up on you. We're just defending ourselves by refuting your remarks. Would you be happier if we just concurred and said "You're right. All Caucasians should die." and went home and commited suicide? Well, go somewhere else then, because most NORMAL people don't tolerate that."
Oh what, because I said I dislike Caucasians all the caucasians within the forum have to get in my face? You know, all I stated was my personal dislike; that's it. Notice I gave no examples as to why, unelss you count my scenario of them "picking in on chicks." I didn't say anything over-the-edge or racy, just that I disliked white people. Um, I don't want to be right you fool, I'm just saying that I dislike white people interacting with the asian opposite sex. Of course, I've grown past that now, but even so, you have a huge megalomaniacal problem. Well, I guess it'd be easier to call you blind. I see I can no longer safely give my opinion without someone complaining. It offends you huh? How do you think I feel having to quote all you guys who won't just go elsewhere?
first question: yes. Typically when someone starts making comments about you or your group, the natural instinct is to fight back. You wouldn't sit by while people started making racial comments about Asians, would you? And that wasn't stating a "personal dislike". That was (bum bum BUM!!!) a racial remark, because you put forth an example of a situation where you described one race as generally evil, and the other as generally apathetic/good. That in and of itself was over-the-edge/racy. "I dislike White People" is similar to if someone said "I dislike Asians" or "I dislike Hispanics". And it sounds to me like you are FAR from being past your problems. I don't see how you could call me blind, when you seem to be the bigot here. If you don't like it when people defend themselves against YOUR comments, then you should leave.
"Oh, so you know the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia. Okay...I'm guessing by that statement you meant the majority of Caucasians you've come in contact with while in Georgia."
Nothing gets by you huh sleuth?
what's with your attitude, by the way? Did your parents teach you to act this way to everyone else?
"Kei_Shugojin basically said what I was thinking...except for that ending. That was a bit extreme, but I got the point. You can't expect people to just nod and agree to everything you say. Besides, what made this a one-sided exploiting war? I don't remember waging war against you or anyone else here...care to explain that one?"
dude, what are your problems? I didn't ask for anyone to agree. I stated my opinion, not as if it were fact or as if to persuade or gain followers. Quit misconstruing things so badly. I don't much like being framed -_-. Oh yeah, one sided = in my favor ;)
You know those people on online shooter games, like Halo, who go "I'm gonna kick your ass!" or "I'm so bad!", get into the game, turn out to suck, cop out halfway through, then go "Hey! I was just kidding! I'm not really that good!"? For some reason, I'm reminded of that.
Now to get back on topic, no, there isn't anything wrong with you hanging out with a Japanese person.
Then what is with your last several comments?
My responses are every third paragraph.
cyber ape
Dec 1, 2004, 10:37
"Then why did you admit to hating your caucasian relatives? Why didn't you specify that?"
Sorry, I kinda forgot what this was all about, so, I don't recall ever needing to. Sry, I kinda moved on past this.
"What is so friggin bad about your city that you have to act like it's a vice? Everybody has problems, okay? Not just you. You sound like the rich kid who's dad lost most of his money and is now complaining about having to live in the Blue-collar family lifestyle."
It IS a vice. I'm aware everyone has problems. I'm not the Sun King. And, that scenario is only half-right. I moved here because my family had a lack of money, but I still have brains. And, I didn't know I was complaining. Sry, I really kinda moved past this.
"I know the word "exaggeration" very well. I was pointing out that you couldn't make a blanket statement about every caucasian within the state of Georgia, even though that's exactly what you were doing. How you missed what I'm saying, I don't know."
Um, I didn't literally mean every caucasian within the state.
"*ahem* I believe your quote was that the Japanese made video games. Nothing more, nothing less. So quit trying to say that you said something else, okay? It's just childish and it doesn't belong on this forum. By the way, I don't know if you noticed this, but your caps lock button got stuck."
It did? Hmm, it doesn't appear so. Anyways, I may have said that at one time, but last I checked the focus was on Dance Dance Revolution. If you want to focus on the fact that I said the Japanese invented them, go ahead, because I'm not.
"Actually, I was talking about some of your earlier comments, where you kept saying that caucasians treat asians like crap (which wasn't true) when you were part caucasian yourself. And I stated an example. Then you went off trying to change the subject. No, I don't criticize you for standing up for African-American rights. I do the same thing. What I do criticize is your statements about caucasians which are unfounded/untrue. You sounded like a member of the Neo-Nazis trying to make statements about how Jews are dangerous."
So what if I'm part Caucasian? Wait, this is where you're going to call me a hypocrite. Look, I don't recall saying Caucasians treat Asian like crap, but even if I did so what? How would you know? Last I checked you don't live in Augusta, GA. If I'm making the caucasians sound "dangerous" I apologize, but it really seems like you're just demonizing me, something I will not tolerate. I already said I have nothing against Caucasians, except a minor grudge with the(ahem, caution: exaggeration ahead) Caucasians in the city of Georgia.
"Why don't you try using something else, rather than something that was/is a racial insult against the japanese? And how the hell did you make friends? If your social skills are like this in real life, I don't know why anyone would want to be around you, much less befriend you."
Because, I don't know if this is just me, but my friends will use insults as compliments. For example, if I'm defeated at DDR by my friend I will often tell him,"You suck!" Why would I say he sucks if he defeated me? It's more of a compliment. Similarly, when we play Yu-Gi-Oh! often whenever one of us pulls an unforseen maneuver we will chant something to the affect of profanity, but since me and my best friend are Asians, we are often called "slant-eyes" for foiling their plans and often winning the duel. I've already explained that Jap is used to fix sentences, not as a racial slur. Of course, where I live and once lived, there were no Japanese people(there, happy?) to get offended. How did I make friends? Simple; I'm a great guy. I really am. But bonkotsus such as yourself always have to bombard me with stupid comments. I don't walk around screaming racial slurs or profanity or egotistical remarks(yes, bonkotsu was rather egotistical, but what can I say? Kaiba, Seto left an influence on me). It's only among my friends, and generally behind closed doors.
"first question: yes. Typically when someone starts making comments about you or your group, the natural instinct is to fight back. You wouldn't sit by while people started making racial comments about Asians, would you? And that wasn't stating a "personal dislike". That was (bum bum BUM!!!) a racial remark, because you put forth an example of a situation where you described one race as generally evil, and the other as generally apathetic/good. That in and of itself was over-the-edge/racy. "I dislike White People" is similar to if someone said "I dislike Asians" or "I dislike Hispanics". And it sounds to me like you are FAR from being past your problems. I don't see how you could call me blind, when you seem to be the bigot here. If you don't like it when people defend themselves against YOUR comments, then you should leave."
Um, people say they dislike Asians all the time. Yes I don't say anything, because it's their right. I'm not going to beat them up physically or verbally just because they dislike my kind. Now, if they raise too much of an ignorant stink I might teach them a little lesson about Asian importance to American society, but never would I turn a molehill into a mountain about you just because some guys said,"I hate them damn slanted-eyes pickin up our chicks. They're not that great." And, even if I admit I'm over my problem, you still believe I'm behind? Get a clue, to quote Kaiba, Seto. I apologize that I offended you(yet you seem far away from giving me any form of condolenses), but the fact still remains that I dislike the majority of Caucasians that I've met here in the city of Augusta, GA.
"what's with your attitude, by the way? Did your parents teach you to act this way to everyone else?"
I apologize if I like to exploit the stupid. It's something I've been doing for years because jerks like you wouldn't leave me alone. I'm not called the undefeated exploiting champion for nothing. I'm not egotistical, I'm not racist, and I'm not mean. Of course, you probably see absolutely falseness in that, but it's true. I apologize if you think of me likethat, but I cannot stand my ground against stupid people. And, I know "there are stupid people every state and we all dislike people in some way." I'm aware. I'm simply stating I personally do not like those of a fickle mind, take that as you will.
"You know those people on online shooter games, like Halo, who go "I'm gonna kick your ass!" or "I'm so bad!", get into the game, turn out to suck, cop out halfway through, then go "Hey! I was just kidding! I'm not really that good!"? For some reason, I'm reminded of that."
me too, considering I came in here just to post, and then people thinking they're too good tried to make me look like some *****, and now look what's happened. Role reversal.
"Then what is with your last several comments?"
You know, if you're just gonna keep this up I'll let you have this post. Seriously, I'd better not here one more word. I'm sure you'll be more than overjoyed when I leave this particular post, but seriously, for the future, try not to raise such a stink, because it's just that; a stink. Nobody will want to be around you and you'll look bad. It appears that even a fool can't catch a cold.
Kei_Shugojin
Dec 1, 2004, 11:18
"Then why did you admit to hating your caucasian relatives? Why didn't you specify that?"
Sorry, I kinda forgot what this was all about, so, I don't recall ever needing to. Sry, I kinda moved on past this.
"What is so friggin bad about your city that you have to act like it's a vice? Everybody has problems, okay? Not just you. You sound like the rich kid who's dad lost most of his money and is now complaining about having to live in the Blue-collar family lifestyle."
It IS a vice. I'm aware everyone has problems. I'm not the Sun King. And, that scenario is only half-right. I moved here because my family had a lack of money, but I still have brains. And, I didn't know I was complaining. Sry, I really kinda moved past this.
"I know the word "exaggeration" very well. I was pointing out that you couldn't make a blanket statement about every caucasian within the state of Georgia, even though that's exactly what you were doing. How you missed what I'm saying, I don't know."
Um, I didn't literally mean every caucasian within the state.
"*ahem* I believe your quote was that the Japanese made video games. Nothing more, nothing less. So quit trying to say that you said something else, okay? It's just childish and it doesn't belong on this forum. By the way, I don't know if you noticed this, but your caps lock button got stuck."
It did? Hmm, it doesn't appear so. Anyways, I may have said that at one time, but last I checked the focus was on Dance Dance Revolution. If you want to focus on the fact that I said the Japanese invented them, go ahead, because I'm not.
"Actually, I was talking about some of your earlier comments, where you kept saying that caucasians treat asians like crap (which wasn't true) when you were part caucasian yourself. And I stated an example. Then you went off trying to change the subject. No, I don't criticize you for standing up for African-American rights. I do the same thing. What I do criticize is your statements about caucasians which are unfounded/untrue. You sounded like a member of the Neo-Nazis trying to make statements about how Jews are dangerous."
So what if I'm part Caucasian? Wait, this is where you're going to call me a hypocrite. Look, I don't recall saying Caucasians treat Asian like crap, but even if I did so what? How would you know? Last I checked you don't live in Augusta, GA. If I'm making the caucasians sound "dangerous" I apologize, but it really seems like you're just demonizing me, something I will not tolerate. I already said I have nothing against Caucasians, except a minor grudge with the(ahem, caution: exaggeration ahead) Caucasians in the city of Georgia.
"Why don't you try using something else, rather than something that was/is a racial insult against the japanese? And how the hell did you make friends? If your social skills are like this in real life, I don't know why anyone would want to be around you, much less befriend you."
Because, I don't know if this is just me, but my friends will use insults as compliments. For example, if I'm defeated at DDR by my friend I will often tell him,"You suck!" Why would I say he sucks if he defeated me? It's more of a compliment. Similarly, when we play Yu-Gi-Oh! often whenever one of us pulls an unforseen maneuver we will chant something to the affect of profanity, but since me and my best friend are Asians, we are often called "slant-eyes" for foiling their plans and often winning the duel. I've already explained that Jap is used to fix sentences, not as a racial slur. Of course, where I live and once lived, there were no Japanese people(there, happy?) to get offended. How did I make friends? Simple; I'm a great guy. I really am. But bonkotsus such as yourself always have to bombard me with stupid comments. I don't walk around screaming racial slurs or profanity or egotistical remarks(yes, bonkotsu was rather egotistical, but what can I say? Kaiba, Seto left an influence on me). It's only among my friends, and generally behind closed doors.
"first question: yes. Typically when someone starts making comments about you or your group, the natural instinct is to fight back. You wouldn't sit by while people started making racial comments about Asians, would you? And that wasn't stating a "personal dislike". That was (bum bum BUM!!!) a racial remark, because you put forth an example of a situation where you described one race as generally evil, and the other as generally apathetic/good. That in and of itself was over-the-edge/racy. "I dislike White People" is similar to if someone said "I dislike Asians" or "I dislike Hispanics". And it sounds to me like you are FAR from being past your problems. I don't see how you could call me blind, when you seem to be the bigot here. If you don't like it when people defend themselves against YOUR comments, then you should leave."
Um, people say they dislike Asians all the time. Yes I don't say anything, because it's their right. I'm not going to beat them up physically or verbally just because they dislike my kind. Now, if they raise too much of an ignorant stink I might teach them a little lesson about Asian importance to American society, but never would I turn a molehill into a mountain about you just because some guys said,"I hate them damn slanted-eyes pickin up our chicks. They're not that great." And, even if I admit I'm over my problem, you still believe I'm behind? Get a clue, to quote Kaiba, Seto. I apologize that I offended you(yet you seem far away from giving me any form of condolenses), but the fact still remains that I dislike the majority of Caucasians that I've met here in the city of Augusta, GA.
"what's with your attitude, by the way? Did your parents teach you to act this way to everyone else?"
I apologize if I like to exploit the stupid. It's something I've been doing for years because jerks like you wouldn't leave me alone. I'm not called the undefeated exploiting champion for nothing. I'm not egotistical, I'm not racist, and I'm not mean. Of course, you probably see absolutely falseness in that, but it's true. I apologize if you think of me likethat, but I cannot stand my ground against stupid people. And, I know "there are stupid people every state and we all dislike people in some way." I'm aware. I'm simply stating I personally do not like those of a fickle mind, take that as you will.
"You know those people on online shooter games, like Halo, who go "I'm gonna kick your ass!" or "I'm so bad!", get into the game, turn out to suck, cop out halfway through, then go "Hey! I was just kidding! I'm not really that good!"? For some reason, I'm reminded of that."
me too, considering I came in here just to post, and then people thinking they're too good tried to make me look like some *****, and now look what's happened. Role reversal.
"Then what is with your last several comments?"
You know, if you're just gonna keep this up I'll let you have this post. Seriously, I'd better not here one more word. I'm sure you'll be more than overjoyed when I leave this particular post, but seriously, for the future, try not to raise such a stink, because it's just that; a stink. Nobody will want to be around you and you'll look bad. It appears that even a fool can't catch a cold.
2. Do you think you're the ONLY one put into bad situations? Come on. When people like you start complaining, it offends others who may be /have friends who are in a worse situation and getting by. So what if your family doesn't have that much money? People get by in other ways. And you say you have brains? Then how did you manage to piss everyone else off when (as you've been saying) that wasn't your intent?
3. When you make a blanket statement, that's what you mean. When you say "Every caucasian in the state of Georgia", you mean "Every caucasian in the state of Georgia". This isn't the "good ol' days", pal. People don't look over generalizations that easily.
4. Sounds like you need to make new friends if they're calling you "slant-eyes" for being part Japanese. :okashii:
5. Well, it seems to me like you wouldn't just sit by. Judging from your actions here, that's not your personality type. You'd probably get into a heated argument until someone with authority came along, banned you, and then you'd try saying that you were just "stating your opinions in a heated manner". And about that, why don't you find some other generalization to use on those guys. There's obviously something similar between these guys besides skin color. Are they all Klu Klux Klan members or something? I know that I dislike most of the Southern Baptists that I've met based on their attitudes torwards me for being agnostic, but then again, one of my best friends is baptists. So I'm not going to go around saying "I hate all Baptists" because it simply isn't true. To repeat a common phrase (one which I think you should hear more often), "Watch your friggin' mouth!!" Thank you.
6. undefeated exploiting world champion? That sounds like a self-imposed title to me. Egotistical? You sure seem that way. Racist? your comments in one way or another have been geared torwards the theme "caucasians are evil". Mean? You're too weak in mind and grammar skills to be mean on these forums, so definitely not here. I don't know how you are in real life, though, so maybe you just act this way on forums. Plus, there's nothing hard about standing your ground against "stupid people", unless you have an even greater lack of intelligence than the "stupid person" you're arguing against. And I don't think anybody likes those of a fickle mind, so there's no point in that statement.
7. no, no, no. You came in making racial remarks, people fought back, and we turned out to be too much for you to handle. Why don't you go to one of those racial supremacy forums? You'd probably handle yourself much more easily there.
8. You're the one who "raised a stink" here. And, instead of apologizing for the misunderstanding, or retracting your comments, you tried to convince people you said something else, and argued it to the death like an ignorant "Schweinhund" (little referrence to my own north german blood there. See? I can do it too). And, yes, just to answer your question, I will be glad to see you leave. You added nothing intelligent to this conversation, and you've wasted my time.
cyber ape
Dec 2, 2004, 12:23
"2. Do you think you're the ONLY one put into bad situations?"
Hmm, somebody didn't read. I'm well aware that I'm not, and quite honestly, I'm not really in a bad situation. Well, I suppose I can't say that, but even so, I don't much complain about it.
"Come on. When people like you start complaining, it offends others who may be /have friends who are in a worse situation and getting by. So what if your family doesn't have that much money? People get by in other ways."
Dude, I don't care we don't have much money. We're not on welfare, we're not poor, we have a nice frig, tv, ps2, etc etc, so quite clearly we're leaving a mediocre life, monetary-wise too.
"And you say you have brains? Then how did you manage to piss everyone else off when (as you've been saying) that wasn't your intent?"
Fool, that has to do with YOUR brains, not my own. It wasn't my intent to piss people off but to state my opinion on the question, which Iwill not quote because I feel someone as "wise" as you already knows it. You chose to get angry at me because you were defending your race, which is fine, except I didn't know I was offending anyone. I've already apologized, but you don't seem to be doing anything, cept trying to win a war when you've but an empty gunshell.
"3. When you make a blanket statement, that's what you mean. When you say "Every caucasian in the state of Georgia", you mean "Every caucasian in the state of Georgia". This isn't the "good ol' days", pal. People don't look over generalizations that easily."
Do you live in literal world? When somebody says,"I'd kill for*insert name of desire*" they would not literally kill for that item. If someone says "Holy crap!", they do not literally mean a holy piece of feces, now do they? There are things in the English language known as figures of speech, hyperboles, exaggerations, lies, and mostly, vernacular, or modern-day speech. People don't really mean what they say, they just exaggerate to get the point through. If someone says they'd kill to get a pair of shoes, they will not kill a person just to get those shoes.
"4. Sounds like you need to make new friends if they're calling you "slant-eyes" for being part Japanese."
Somebody likes to make posts without reading. You know what that's called? Well, since I share a grand economy with words(don't get cocky, you have a sexual economy with words), I don't know what that's called, but it certainly shows the true you. They don't call me a slanted-eye because I'm Japanese, they call me it because I'm their friend. Sure, I am Japanese, thus it started, but even so, I've known them for over 4 years now, and they're not the kind of people who'd betray me. We're all great friends, and so even if they were racist against my kind, I wouldn't care less, especially since if they were racist, they wouldn't be talking to me.
"5. Well, it seems to me like you wouldn't just sit by."
So, I tell you I'd sit by yet you don't believe me?
"Judging from your actions here, that's not your personality type."
You're judging skills enduce a great yawn from me.
"You'd probably get into a heated argument until someone with authority came along, banned you, and then you'd try saying that you were just "stating your opinions in a heated manner"."
You certainly like to make me look infantile. I'm not a little kid I hope you know. I don't argue. If someone agrees fine. If not that's cool too. Why would somebody argue? You shouldn't be persuading people. Socrates made people think, so persuasion kills his whole purpose. You're great at assuming.
"And about that, why don't you find some other generalization to use on those guys. There's obviously something similar between these guys besides skin color. Are they all Klu Klux Klan members or something?"
Sorry, I'm not sure if you're talking about my friends or Georgians. My friends are not all white in the least. As for Georgians, yes, you nailed it on the head. Unfortunately, the place where I live(Augusta, GA) has not yet forgotten about the Civil War, a war based on(well, one of the few bases) slave's freedom. So, not only are there rebel flags everywhere, but there are indeed KKK members. Sure, they're not terrorists like they once were, but just go to the high school, find a kid in camoflague, and ask if he knows the grand wizard. Chances are, the kid will say,"I am him." That is how bad it is here. And, no, I'm not complaining; I'm stating the facts that I've seen with my own eyes. And, since you like to bring this up, I'M PERFECTLY AWARE PEOPLE HAVE IT BAD OFF. THAT'S NOT THE DISCUSSION BAKA!
"I know that I dislike most of the Southern Baptists that I've met based on their attitudes torwards me for being agnostic, but then again, one of my best friends is baptists. So I'm not going to go around saying "I hate all Baptists" because it simply isn't true."
Too bad I don't like any Caucasian males within GA huh?
"To repeat a common phrase (one which I think you should hear more often), "Watch your friggin' mouth!!" Thank you."
Why? You don't live here? Are you Georgian? Did I insult a baptist? Look, I'll say this once more. I apologize to all whom I have offended. If you're still offended, may I consider emotional therapy.
"6. undefeated exploiting world champion? That sounds like a self-imposed title to me. Egotistical? You sure seem that way."
Did I say world? Whoops, I just meant undefeated exploiting champion(never been to Singapore before). Well, it's an unofficial title, but I still have it and am reknowned for it. I don't believe in egotism. Sry bro, that's just not cool. You'll never catch me saying "ore" :cool:
"Racist? your comments in one way or another have been geared torwards the theme "caucasians are evil"."
Dude, what is your problem? You can't just group things into categories then deny everything else. I never once said Caucasians were evil, nor do I think they are. I said I disliked them. Stop trying to take me out to be a racist.
"Mean? You're too weak in mind and grammar skills"
Wait, did I just see "grammar skills." You know, I can stand insults, but when it's insults that I cannot be bested in, I'll get pissed. My grammar skills are superb, and it's quite clear my vocab far surpasses your own. I can't say you have an economy with words(oh, crap, I already did XD), but seriously, what's so atrocious about them that you had to exploit? We're both mediocre; you're not on a hierarchy bud :balloon:
"to be mean on these forums, so definitely not here. I don't know how you are in real life, though, so maybe you just act this way on forums."
No, I just act this way when dolts like you try to exploit me. I don't see it as me being mean, I see it as a challenge. Since you challenged me, I'm obligated to defeat you, and quite clearly I've done so. So, I wasn't trying to prove a point or be right, I was just trying to defeat you. Just keep putting up your shields on "blanket statements"(you know, there are better word choices out there, my grammatical sage-like scholar) and "people have it worse off" and "you've offended me and are egotistical." Try reading before posting.
"Plus, there's nothing hard about standing your ground against "stupid people","
Did I say there was? The only hard part is having to watch them squirm. People don't admit defeat any more.
"7. no, no, no. You came in making racial remarks, people fought back, and we turned out to be too much for you to handle."
Yeah, don't bother reading *coughrolereversalwhatthen?cough*
"Why don't you go to one of those racial supremacy forums? You'd probably handle yourself much more easily there."
You see? You have an idiocy problem. I am not a racial supremacist. I do not have races ranked from best to worst or most supreme to less. It's all by chance how a certain person acts, so ranking the entire race would be unfair. Look, I'll say this once more, unless another one of your stupid quotes pops up: I dislike the majority of caucasians within the city of Augusta, GA. Majority means most, not all. Stop trying to take it like I hate all Caucasians within GA, because I just re-stated it. Ignoring what I just re-stated would just make you a sheer neo-conservative-resembling fool. I don't think caucasians are evil, and I do not care if they do not like me because of my race, because anybody who dislikes others because of their race alone is a fool. Oh wait, this is where you're going to say "But you dislike white's because of their skin and/or the belief they all act the same." Wrong. It's only by chance that the MAJORITY of Caucasians I've met here act too similar for my liking, but even so, I don't dislike them because of their skin(there are whites in every country, even in Africa), and although they seem to act alike, that's just by chance. Everybody's different.
"8. You're the one who "raised a stink" here."
You're going to make me vomit. I stated my opinion. Tell me, what were the next few posts? Oh yeah! *I'm running out of synonyms and am too lazy to go to webster* Dorks like you(oh well, I tried) bombarding me with idiotic statements and complaints. Now, I'm done apologizing, because I've done that enough, but you shouldn't have said anything. I wasn't making your race look stupid or evil, I was saying so against a certain selection of males, none of which are in this forum to get offended. Calm down, and read better.
"And, instead of apologizing for the misunderstanding,"
OK, now you're just pushing it. I've apologized, I'm guessing around 4 times. Try counting, or better yet, leaving me alone.
"or retracting your comments,"
I'd stop exploiting you for this one, cept I wanna see what other stupid things you'll say, just so I can pent up enough dislike for you. I don't like disliking others, but this just draws the line. I've retraced my comments several times. I've apologized, explained I dislike(new word, no longer hate) the MAJORITY(new word, no longer ALL) the Caucasians within Augusta(no longer all of GA), GA. I've retraced several times pal, yet you refrain from repenting for being so rude to me.
"you tried to convince people you said something else, and argued it to the death like an ignorant "Schweinhund" (little referrence to my own north german blood there. See? I can do it too)."
Because, you guys are too literal. I don't mean everything I said, as stated above earlier. I mean, if I said I had a Parallel rare Chaos Emperor Dragon-Envoy of the End in English, would you believe me just because I said it? Of course not. Although this contradicts my point at the beginning, the fact still remains you're blowing everything out of proportion by acting like exaggeration doesn't exist. Well it does; welcom to the new America; where the English language isn't what it used to be.
"And, yes, just to answer your question, I will be glad to see you leave. You added nothing intelligent to this conversation, and you've wasted my time."
You're just like Bill O'Reilly. You don't listen to anything I say, then you act like you're supreme. Then when I prove you wrong you'll say a bunch of crap, then to throw me into a double pit so to speak, you'll label me fellatious titles and make me out to be somebody I'm not. This is likethe 20th time it's happened, and nobody's ever been right. People like you are the reason I don't like THE MAJORITY OF GEORGIANS. You don't listen to anything I say, then act like your words are words of the Heavens. You are not a king and you do not have divine right. Learn your place sako
PopCulturePooka
Dec 2, 2004, 12:29
^^^ did not read ^^^
So Cyber Monkey?
Why does a caucasian guy talking to a Japanese girl offend you so much?
cyber ape
Dec 2, 2004, 12:38
^^^ did not read ^^^
So Cyber Monkey?
Why does a caucasian guy talking to a Japanese girl offend you so much?
There aren't any Japanese girls where I live, and it doesn't offend me any more. It only did because I got that feeling that most minorities and/or foreigners get of "what does he have that I don't" or simple "what's so great about him?" Sure, race doesn't matter, it's just a double coincedence. One, he's Caucasian, which, ever since I've been here I haven't gotten along with a single caucasian. Secondly because he's not my friend. If my friend hooks up with a girl I like, I'll be mad but I'll still be his friend. This was just a stranger. Sure, she's not"mine" nor did I have any intention of hooking up with her, I just don't see why she'd rather have a Caucasian than a Korean(and, I'm not Korean, I'm just saying Koreans are better than Caucasians IMO). Anyways, I'm over that now, I'm just tired of seeing girls go out with bad guys. That's always been my problem; girls have terrible judgment where I live. Oh, before somebody yells at me I'd better say the majority of girls here have bad judgment.
So, my problem is simply because I feel for girls, especially Asians, because there are few Asians around here, and although the only ones are Koreans, which I am not, they're still my family in some way.
W/e, I plan on getting out of here ASAP, hopefully to a place that is overcrowded(literally) with Japanese people.
TwistedMac
Dec 2, 2004, 12:41
so you've got/had a bad case of jealousy or is it that you don't like caucasians and are jealous of them every time they get some and you don't?
PopCulturePooka
Dec 2, 2004, 12:56
There aren't any Japanese girls where I live, and it doesn't offend me any more. It only did because I got that feeling that most minorities and/or foreigners get of "what does he have that I don't" or simple "what's so great about him?"Maybe a better attitude. You have STRONG feelings of race. Likely it shows.
Sure, race doesn't matter, it's just a double coincedence. One, he's Caucasian, which, ever since I've been here I haven't gotten along with a single caucasian.Thats irrelevant.
This was just a stranger. Sure, she's not"mine" nor did I have any intention of hooking up with her, I just don't see why she'd rather have a Caucasian than a Korean(and, I'm not Korean, I'm just saying Koreans are better than Caucasians IMO).I dunno. Damn. Maybe cause thats what she wants?
And Koreans are better than caucasians? Why? Basis? Examples? Proof? Or are you you just bleating racist statements again?
Anyways, I'm over that now,Obviously you aren't.
I'm just tired of seeing girls go out with bad guys.So caucasians = bad guys?
That's always been my problem; girls have terrible judgment where I live. Oh, before somebody yells at me I'd better say the majority of girls here have bad judgment.You're looking at rule of averages here too. Whats the ratio of caucasians to asians where you live? That seriously affects the rates of match ups.
So, my problem is simply because I feel for girls, especially Asians, because there are few Asians around here, and although the only ones are Koreans, which I am not, they're still my family in some way.Its their lives, their mistakes, their actions. What about all the girls taht are happy with Caucasians hmmm?
Oh and another thing Cyber Primate.
You said you're half Japanese? Funny. That you look white? Cool.
You know then that you will NEVER be accepted as Japanese in Japan? You will be as much a foreigner as I am? You will be still denied entry to some bars and onsens. Still be offered forks at restaurants because its assumed you cant use chopsticks. Still be stared at on the train. Still need to own a gaijin card all your life. Still have people patronisingly say your Japanese is great because you can say 'sumimasen'.
You say taht your other half isn't caucasian? If its another asian heritage it may be even worse for you then. A girl at my school LOOKs and sounds japanese. Yet when it came to pass that she was half Korean she became the subject of A LOT of taunting and bullying at school.
You can try and identify yourself as Japanese as much as you want, but if you really are a white looking half Japanese then in the eyes of a good many full Japanese people you aren't Japanese and never will be. You are as much a foreigner as the evil caucasians like me. Welcome to our club, sodas are on the table.
TwistedMac
Dec 2, 2004, 13:00
Still need to own a gaijin card all your life.
gaijin card is so cool.. I can't wait to get mine...
PopCulturePooka
Dec 2, 2004, 13:04
gaijin card is so cool.. I can't wait to get mine...
It is kinda fun.
I hope to smuggle mine out the country when I leave in February.
TwistedMac
Dec 2, 2004, 13:08
you can't bring it with you if you don't smuggle it? DAYM!
I was planning on having that as my memento once I got there and back :/
PopCulturePooka
Dec 2, 2004, 13:09
you can't bring it with you if you don't smuggle it? DAYM!
I was planning on having that as my memento once I got there and back :/
No from what I've heard you're meant to hand it in at the airport when you leave for good.
So I'm leaving on a return ticket!!!
TwistedMac
Dec 2, 2004, 13:12
hehe, nice one ;)
thanks for the heads up, now I know what to do ^^
King of Tokyo
Dec 2, 2004, 15:34
I just don't see why she'd rather have a Caucasian than a Korean(and, I'm not Korean, I'm just saying Koreans are better than Caucasians IMO)
You are just as bad as these members of the KKK you hate so much. You have just actually stated that one race is better than another. Which is not possible. I pride myself on fighting for the rights of minorities, while being white myself (Well, 75/25 White/Black, But I looke white) and I do come across these a**holes who dislike minorities, and it makes me hate them, not because they're white, but because they're racist. You are officially a racist, to actually claim one race is superior to another, that is a racist. You are disgusting. As much as I find myself to be constantly defending Asians, Blacks and all non-whites every time I come in contact with some redneck who thinks he can blame his problems on a minority, you are just as bad, if not worse, to say something like that.
Congratulations, You're an idiot.
Kei_Shugojin
Dec 2, 2004, 21:58
You are just as bad as these members of the KKK you hate so much. You have just actually stated that one race is better than another. Which is not possible. I pride myself on fighting for the rights of minorities, while being white myself (Well, 75/25 White/Black, But I looke white) and I do come across these a**holes who dislike minorities, and it makes me hate them, not because they're white, but because they're racist. You are officially a racist, to actually claim one race is superior to another, that is a racist. You are disgusting. As much as I find myself to be constantly defending Asians, Blacks and all non-whites every time I come in contact with some redneck who thinks he can blame his problems on a minority, you are just as bad, if not worse, to say something like that.
Congratulations, You're an idiot.
Amen, man. :cool:
cyber ape
Dec 3, 2004, 06:11
"Maybe a better attitude. You have STRONG feelings of race. Likely it shows."
I don't have strong feelings of race at all. I mean, at school I call one of my friends whitey, but that's just a nickname. I don't go around the school calling every white person a cracker and using other derragatory terms against other races.
"I dunno. Damn. Maybe cause thats what she wants?"
Good for her. I didn't stop her. I just watched.
"And Koreans are better than caucasians? Why? Basis? Examples? Proof? Or are you you just bleating racist statements again?"
No, I'm saying they're better because of their qualities, their moral values, their beliefs, etc. Of course, I can't seem to say anything without you fools saying,"What? You mean the entire race applies to this one statement?" I don't mean ALL Asians are great, because I've met numerous Asians to whom I wouldn't give friendship to for my life. However, when comparing Caucasians to Asians, Asians surpass them in most of the generic sections. If you wish to know what I mean by generic sections, I'd be happy to tell you.
"Obviously you aren't."
And why not?
"So caucasians = bad guys?"
No, because in some way, everyone is a villain, and everyone is an antagonist. Some are bad, some aren't. Just because I said bad guys does not mean I targeted caucasians for that, just bad males in general.
"You're looking at rule of averages here too. Whats the ratio of caucasians to asians where you live? That seriously affects the rates of match ups."
Where I live, for every 3 people, there is 1 white, 1 African American, 1 Asian, and quite literally.
"Its their lives, their mistakes, their actions. What about all the girls taht are happy with Caucasians hmmm?"
I'm aware. I'll let my family live as they wish as evidenced by the fact that I did nothing and said nothing about when the Korean girl was around the Caucasian male. If I really was some bigot like you all take me out to be, I would've stormed up to them and in a booming voice said something along the lines of,"What are you doing? Get away from him! He's not worth it!" Of course, what I REALLY did was just play DDR and watch. Not one word about the two of them was uttered from my mouth. And, I don't care if she's happy or not with them, because as I said, I'M ALREADY OVER IT!
"Oh and another thing Cyber Primate.
You said you're half Japanese? Funny. That you look white? Cool.
You know then that you will NEVER be accepted as Japanese in Japan?"
Funny, because quite a few Japanese people know I'm Japanese and treat me as their own. Maybe you know different people.
"You will be as much a foreigner as I am?"
Of course, but that doesn't change the fact I was born in Okinawa, have friends and family within several places in Japan, and have Japanese blood. Just because I'm not full-blooded doesn't make me unaccepted.
"You will be still denied entry to some bars and onsens."
They have full-blooded Japanese-only bars? Any pics?
"Still be offered forks at restaurants because its assumed you cant use chopsticks."
I have my own set of chopsticks ^^
"Still be stared at on the train."
Well, when I visited Japan for a short while I wasn't started at in the least. Well, not in a weird way. Everynow and then somebody might just be starin off into space. I didn't have a wacky hairdo, I wasn't writing kanji on a big sheet of canvas, I was just sitting down.
"Still need to own a gaijin card all your life."
They have Gaijin cards? Why do you need a card to show you're not from Japan? Sounds patronizing to me.
"Still have people patronisingly say your Japanese is great because you can say 'sumimasen'."
Not really? Of all the japanese people within Japan I talked to, nobody was super impressed that I spoke Japanese. And they said I had the accent and sentence structure dead-on. Seriously, we know some different people.
"You say taht your other half isn't caucasian? If its another asian heritage it may be even worse for you then."
Um, I said it earlier. Half Japanese(50), 1/4th Greek(25), American(20), Egyptian(5).
"A girl at my school LOOKs and sounds japanese. Yet when it came to pass that she was half Korean she became the subject of A LOT of taunting and bullying at school."
Not at my school, where the only people who know I'm Japanese are 1. My friends and 2. People who actually know how a Japanese man(sorry, wouldn't want to say Jap and offend anyone) acts.
"You can try and identify yourself as Japanese as much as you want, but if you really are a white looking half Japanese then in the eyes of a good many full Japanese people you aren't Japanese and never will be."
Again, we know different people. Everyone I've known(and not just said hi to, I mean really well known) says they see the Japanese in me, including quite a few Japanese people.
"You are as much a foreigner as the evil caucasians like me. Welcome to our club, sodas are on the table."
Well, I'd have to look up the word foreigner, because although I wasn't raised there, I was still born there. Whatever, thanks for the sodas :balloon:
"You are just as bad as these members of the KKK you hate so much. You have just actually stated that one race is better than another."
Preference, not superiority. Get it right ;)
"Which is not possible. I pride myself on fighting for the rights of minorities, while being white myself (Well, 75/25 White/Black, But I looke white) and I do come across these a**holes who dislike minorities, and it makes me hate them, not because they're white, but because they're racist. You are officially a racist, to actually claim one race is superior to another, that is a racist."
No you dolt. How about asking before accusing, because it makes you look stupid. When I meant better, I meant better of a choice. I guess I should've typed that, because I'm really making you look bad right now. I meant that Asians are a better choice of spouse then Caucasians. I didn't say either were bad or good, just that I personally prefer one over the other. And no, I don't demand others agree, I'm just stating my opinion.
"You are disgusting. As much as I find myself to be constantly defending Asians, Blacks and all non-whites every time I come in contact with some redneck who thinks he can blame his problems on a minority, you are just as bad, if not worse, to say something like that."
What the Hell is your problem? I don't blame my problems on any race. That would just be fickle. If I have a problem, I solve it. I don't blame others for sustenance or to make me more at ease. You know, the reason why you all take me out to be like this is because of what I said. I already told you: I'M OVER THAT. If you disbelieve me, you are all retards, because then you're just trying to prove a point off something that might as well be considered deleted at this point.
Congratulations, YOU are an idiot.
PopCulturePooka
Dec 3, 2004, 14:34
I don't have strong feelings of race at all. I mean, at school I call one of my friends whitey, but that's just a nickname. I don't go around the school calling every white person a cracker and using other derragatory terms against other races.That you use race as an identifier amongst friends is one sure sign about your feelings of identity and race. I have Vietnamese friends back home in Australia. Never once is race an issue, nor a nickname. Johnny is Johnny. Chuong is Chuong. Azzizzi is Azzizzi, not towel head or anything like that.
Just because you have SOME restraint and don’t call people cracker doesn’t mean your feelings of race are any less strong.
Good for her. I didn't stop her. I just watched.Unless you actually have feelings for the girl it should be a COMPLETE non issue to you. Not even worth watching.
No, I'm saying they're better because of their qualities, their moral values, their beliefs, etc. Of course, I can't seem to say anything without you fools saying, “What? You mean the entire race applies to this one statement?" I don't mean ALL Asians are great, because I've met numerous Asians to whom I wouldn't give friendship to for my life. However, when comparing Caucasians to Asians, Asians surpass them in most of the generic sections. If you wish to know what I mean by generic sections, I'd be happy to tell you.
Oh
My
GOD
And any credibility you have just shattered into a million fractured pieces. You continually keep saying you aren’t racist, you don’t think one race is superior. But in this very paragraph you have written of Caucasians as less moral, less valued and of lesser qualities to Asians. Need I sink to your level and post how there some moral characteristics that Asians seem to lack?
You don't even have to tell me. Your post was idiotic. You ARE judging people on race. You believe, without even meeting someone, that a white person has less values and morals to a Korean for instance. This WILL colour your impressions of people when you first meet them.
YOU
ARE
A
RACIST
And why not?This thread gives numerous clear examples of why you aren't over it. But your first post is the best example.
Well, I know that when I see a white guy hitting on an Asian female I get offended and want to stop them, even if they're no one I know and the Asian isn't my blood.
Well, I can't speak for Japan, so I really don't know. I never had a problem with anyone, until I moved here. Now, I really, really DESPISE Caucasians. Of course, I look Caucasian, so everybody thinks I'm just a contradicting self-hating fool. Oh well.
No, because in some way, everyone is a villain, and everyone is an antagonist. Some are bad, some aren't. Just because I said bad guys does not mean I targeted Caucasians for that, just bad males in general.So do you get angry and offended when another Asian hits on a girl? When a white guy hits on a white girl? Heck the Asian guy might be a bad guy. You never know.
Where I live, for every 3 people, there is 1 white, 1 African American, 1 Asian, and quite literally.Then you need to find out why the girls are going for Caucasians. Also something doesn't add up. You keep saying how you are a minority in your area, yet Asians represent 33%?
Odd.
I'm aware. I'll let my family live as they wish as evidenced by the fact that I did nothing and said nothing about when the Korean girl was around the Caucasian male. If I really was some bigot like you all take me out to be, I would've stormed up to them and in a booming voice said something along the lines of, “What are you doing? Get away from him! He's not worth it!" Of course, what I REALLY did was just play DDR and watch. Not one word about the two of them was uttered from my mouth. And, I don't care if she's happy or not with them, because as I said, I'M ALREADY OVER IT!The fact that you even CARE, that you watch, that these thought processes are in your head is enough to make you a bigot. It’s none of your concern, none of your business. Yet in your head you're making it your business. Just play DDR, don’t even watch. You may get 'offended'.
Funny, because quite a few Japanese people know I'm Japanese and treat me as their own. Maybe you know different people.There’s said to be