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TwistedMac
Dec 7, 2004, 10:06
I was over at penny arcade today and found this. In the words of Tycho; "they're thieves and god damn liars!"

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20041206l.jpg
yeah, I know... That had nothing to do with the matrix, but come on... it's funny!

read this article for the full story:
http://www.slccglobelink.com/news/2004/10/28/Entertainment/mother.Of.The.Matrix.Victorious-785067.shtml
edit: adding the full article since you need to be registered to read the second page of the article, and everyone may not want to do that.


Monday, October 4th 2004 ended a six-year dispute involving Sophia Stewart, the Wachowski Brothers, Joel Silver and Warner Brothers. Stewart's allegations, involving copyright infringement and racketeering, were received and acknowledged by the Central District of California, Judge Margaret Morrow residing.

Stewart, a New Yorker who has resided in Salt Lake City for the past five years, will recover damages from the films, The Matrix I, II and III, as well as The Terminator and its sequels. She will soon receive one of the biggest payoffs in the history of Hollywood, as the gross receipts of both films and their sequels total over 2.5 billion dollars.

Stewart filed her case in 1999, after viewing the Matrix, which she felt had been based on her manuscript, "The Third Eye," copyrighted in 1981. In the mid-eighties Stewart had submitted her manuscript to an ad placed by the Wachowski Brothers, requesting new sci-fi works.

According to court documentation, an FBI investigation discovered that more than thirty minutes had been edited from the original film, in attempt to avoid penalties for copyright infringement. The investigation also stated that "credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward, claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski Brothers." These witnesses claimed to have seen Stewart's original work and that it had been "often used during preparation of the motion pictures."
The defendants tried, on several occasions, to have Stewart's case dismissed, without success.

Stewart has confronted skepticism on all sides, much of which comes from Matrix fans, who are strangely loyal to the Wachowski Brothers. One on-line forum, entitled Matrix Explained has an entire section devoted to Stewart. Some who have researched her history and writings are open to her story. Others are suspicious and mocking. "It doesn't bother me," said Stewart in a phone interview last week, "I always knew what was true."

Some fans, are unaware of the case or they question its legitimacy, due to the fact that it has received little to no media coverage. Though the case was not made public until October of 2003, Stewart has her own explanation, as quoted at daghettotymz.com:

"The reason you have not seen any of this in the media is because Warner Brothers parent company is AOL-Time Warner... this GIANT owns 95 percent of the media... let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines, People Magazine, CNN news, Extra, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, HBO, New Line Cinema, Dreamworks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow... many, many more!... They are not going to report on themselves. They have been surpressing my case for years..."

Fans who have taken Stewart's allegations seriously, have found eerie mythological parallels, which seem significant in a case that revolves around the highly metaphorical and symbolic Matrix series. Sophia, the greek goddess of wisdom has been referenced many times in speculation about Stewart. In one book about the Goddess Sophia, it reads, "The black goddess is the mistress of web creation spun in her divine matrix."

Although there have been outside implications as to racial injustice (Stewart is African American), she does not feel that this is the case. "This is all about the Benjamins," said Stewart. "It's not about money with me. It's about justice."

Stewart's future plans involve a record label, entitled Popsilk Records, and a motion picture production company, All Eyez On Me, in reference to God. "I wrote The Third Eye to wake people up, to remind them why God put them here. There's more to life than money," said Stewart. "My whole message to the world is about God and good and about choice, about spirituality prevailing over 'technocracy'."

If Stewart represents spirituality, then she truly has prevailed over the "technocracy" represented in both the Terminator and the Matrix, and now, ironically, by their supposed creators.

Stewart is currently having discussions with CBS about a possible exclusive story and has several media engagements in the near future to nationally publicize her victory.

yorkii
Dec 7, 2004, 18:08
crikey!!!!! who would have thought that something like the martix could have be concieved in 1981 :? :shock:

would love to read the original manuscript.

i wonder if she'll put it online after the courtcase :? !!

sadakoyamamura
Dec 7, 2004, 19:08
I'm a fan of the Watchowski Brothers but after this, I don't know...
I'm happy she won against a corporate giant. Oh boy, what a long battle it was...

You know this article got me thinking. What if there are/were other writers out there who are in the same plight but were not as lucky as her?

would love to read the original manuscript.

I would like to read the original and compare it with the one used in the movie...

TwistedMac
Dec 7, 2004, 20:14
You know this article got me thinking. What if there are/were other writers out there who are in the same plight but were not as lucky as her?

I'm sure it has been fairly common throughout history.


I would like to read the original and compare it with the one used in the movie...
me too, but atleast it has been enough alike for a court to deem it the same story.

I'm thinking it's the same universe and same idea of a one that can bend it, but different side-characters and sort of different side-plot.
That's my guess atleast.. I think they're that much alike or she wouldn't have won.

At the beginning of the article I was thinking "maybe it's just a coincidence?" but when it turned out she actually submitted her story to the brothers, that pretty much sealed te deal =p

Concieving a story like that back in 1980 isn't exactly a big deal really... Just look at all the sci-fi that's way out there from even earlier (things like A Brave New World sticks out) making the movie with all the effects back then would've been a big deal =D.

antantrevolution
Dec 8, 2004, 22:48
So, does this mean that next they will be sued because of the Alice in Wonderland references? Or will Jesus simply come in and sue them all for 'Life experience infringement'?

Come on, already...

This is bad as suing McDonalds because the coffee was hot and you burned your balls with it.

Ant

TwistedMac
Dec 8, 2004, 23:53
it's nothing like it!

this is a story written by someone else, then the wachowski brothers took the credit for it, claiming it to be their own, giving the original author no compensation of any kind.

It's not even close to hot coffee.

How would you like it if you wrote a book, I had a competition which you submited your book to, I said "sorry, you didn't win", stole it, erased your name and put mine there, then made a movie from the whole thing but with a new name.

Now I'm filthy rich, living in Japan in a harem of geishas off YOUR story, and your still pretty much poor.

would you just say "well, them's the breaks!"?

you can't compare references to ripping off a whole story.
I bet people would get mad if I claimed to have written Alice in Wonderland or the Bible too.

senseiman
Dec 9, 2004, 11:39
yeah, I got to agree with twisted. This is nothing like coffee, it sounds like they were pretty much openly stealing her work and making a fortune off of it. Good for her, I say.

babar-san
Dec 9, 2004, 16:01
babar looked at the article in complete shock.......

sadakoyamamura
Dec 9, 2004, 19:19
I'm sure it has been fairly common throughout history.


Yeah, I got curious and looked for other movies which became controversial due to infringement cases against the producers etc. The Village and Amistad was among them.

Kamisama
Dec 10, 2004, 04:25
Ha ha ha. I liked it. It's really funny. Ha ha ha.

The Matrix yorkii.....

Jungle Boy
Dec 10, 2004, 09:53
Now the one brother won't be able to afford his sex change operation anymore. Poor guy :p

antantrevolution
Dec 11, 2004, 08:25
I'm sure there's more to the story than just what was presented to the media. I understand your point, but then maybe the writers of the film 'Dark City' can get in line to sue because the Matrix is said to rip off quite a bit from that story too.

Ant

HomicidalMouse
Dec 14, 2004, 22:42
Every so often you get films that are like other films, bits in films when you think "i've seen that in another movie". If film makers started claiming stuffs been stolen from their films when its just a little bit like it, then all hell would break loose.

However, taking someone elses story writen over 20 years ago, which they lent to you and you made a successful film from it and then told everyone it was your own idea... thats called stealing. So well done to the woman!

Phew :relief: Glad i got that out my system...

yorkii
Dec 16, 2004, 08:57
The Matrix yorkii.....



huh, did i miss something :?