Mana, plastic ?

[CookieMoses]

Okay, we all know Gackt uses Botox and has had a nose job, but has Mana had anything done ?

Thanks,
~The Blue Boy~

[10_6madhatter]

Not that I know of. But the title of this thread and Mana's female impersonation made me think of him getting breast implants XD

[PrincessBerriKiller]

Um...I dont think Gackt had a nose job OR botox....Do you have any proof of either?

Mana hasn't had anything done either.

[ObscureAngel]

no mana doesn't need boobies!!!!!!!


wait a minute.... gackt uses botox? that's new to me

[PrincessBerriKiller]

Um...I don't think its true thats why....

[ObscureAngel]

oh......... mana still doesn't need boobies!!!

[PrincessBerriKiller]

I agree, I agree...but i dont think it was what they were suggesting?

[ObscureAngel]

dunno.... really

[PrincessBerriKiller]

well I guess we will just have to wait and see...O.O *goes back to essay because she doesnt want to be up all night* I probably willl be ne wayz...-__-;;;;;;

[ObscureAngel]

lol..... pray mana doesn't decide to get boobs * prays*

[PrincessBerriKiller]

lol he won't, don't worry. Despite the fact he wears alot of dresses he really isn't THAT kind of feminine. Maybe Mana just likes to feel free...XD

[ObscureAngel]

lol i hope so^^ ><

[PrincessBerriKiller]

me too *cough, cough*

[mizerable_d]

i dont think mana got anything done, it's just the thick cake of make up he wears.
mana doesnt need boobs, he can be my wife any day...i mean hubby hehe

i think gackt gets botox since his face IS really tight, but nose job? i think not... his nose looks liike that way it does now since the beginning

[PrincessBerriKiller]

lol Mana=wife XD

I dont think Gackt has botox...Its just his face.....He doesn't look much different to me now then he did before...just changes in the hair...

[mizerable_d]

yupyup, gackt-sama is pretty real from wat i can see

[PrincessBerriKiller]

lol why do people want to make my child...I mean Gackt fake? lol (thats a looooong joke even longer then some of the others...)

[mizerable_d]

o_o *is confused*

[PrincessBerriKiller]

haha Is long joke involving me, gackt, cockroaches, and was spawned from the whole Shinya is really a stick bug in a people suit theory....*nods* I confuzled you more now didnt I....

[10_6madhatter]

Oh no, I don't think Mana should get boobs at all XD That was just the first thing that popped into my head.

I've heard rumors of Gackt and the whole botox and nose job thing, but I never really took them too seriously. And even if he did get some work done, it doesn't really matter I guess.

[PrincessBerriKiller]

As his mother, it does to me! lol no...I think it is just dumb to spread such rumors because gullible people believe them and that is how they get passed about. Unless some one can give me real proof I dont think its true.

[Horizon]

Very well-spoken Berri

[mizerable_d]

yup yup

still i dont think it matters if someone has surgery...

[Horizon]

Yup, yup. I think people should be proud of what they've got (even if, in their opinion, they've got close to nothing), but if it's necessary, if one REALLY wants it, then it's their body and they can do whatever the hell they want with it.

Now if only my parents thought that way...>.>

[Suki-Yaki]

I think gackt has had some stuff done but , not becuase he ever was ugly . I think he just did it .


I don't think mana has done anything though. Becuase anything he's done would be covered by that thick make-up :lol:

And why can't anyone see Mana the "Man" behind alla that make-up. I don't think Mana ever wanted to turn into a girl , this is just his way of dressing , the end.

[mizerable_d]

i dont think mana wants to be a girl either, just that he likes the apperance of women? i think the main reason people can't see Mana is a man is beacuse no one has ever seem him behind the make up.

gackt's botox is to keep him from aging too much. and that is important in the asian entertainment field, to look good. always.

[PrincessBerriKiller]

Mana really doeslook like a man if you scrape away all those layers....

Um...I keep telling you Gackt didn't do anything...I dont even like the guy, but really, he hasen't had anything done...

I will only believe such nonsense if you give me proof.

[mizerable_d]

hmm, wats that video called again? the one he did with Vivian something something... anyways that video is the most obvious, and also other close ups of his face. the sides of his face are very tight and unnatural looking. and gackt is probably something like 30 something years old, i dont think you can still look that young with out any help. even Hyde is aging...

its only what i think. and most asian celebs do have surgery. so i came to this conclusion.

[PrincessBerriKiller]

hmmm, I disagree....I have seen close ups (and I mean close) of Gackt's face and it didnt look streched to me....I have seen enough of the old american ladies with it to know what the botox can make you look like...and thats not Gackt...Maybe his people suit was too tight that day...*coughs* never mind...XDDD

[mizerable_d]

lol haha old ladies with botox -_-;;;;

well his face isnt really streched...it's um i cant discribe it, its like very tight and angular, but maybe thats wat his face's structure is? but i like gackt, no matter what. ^_________^ *points to siggy*

[Kala]

eemmm... I don't know about the botox (I don't think so, by the way), but, although I've never heard rumors about Gackt's nose job, I was sure of it since I saw some very old tv shows and I think "hey, look at Gackt's nose!! He get's surgery!!" I can tell you that, 'that' was a different nose I'm get use to see on him^^, really, I'm not crazy....

[Illaparatzo-sama]

FREAKISH!
http://rokettobaibii.net/27.jpg

I really, really do not like his lips anymore.

[Azerii]

Um...I dont think Gackt had a nose job OR botox....Do you have any proof of either?

Mana hasn't had anything done either.


I don't have proof that he's had anything done, but I know that he looks a heck of a lot different now than when he started in Malice Mizer. I'd show you comparison pictures, but I lost all my pictures a while back, and I haven't gotten them back. I'll go look and see if I can find the old pictures of him~

I do agree that Mana hasn't had anything done. He looks the same as he always did. He just wears a lot of makeup~

[Azerii]

Here.

This man:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/saiya00/th_vocal-gackt108.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/saiya00/vocal-gackt108.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/saiya00/th_vocal-gackt090.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/saiya00/vocal-gackt090.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/saiya00/th_vocal-gackt085.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/saiya00/vocal-gackt085.jpg)


Did not start looking like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/saiya00/th_vocal-gackt132.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/saiya00/vocal-gackt132.jpg)

...without some help.

Am I right?

[Suki-Yaki]

I can't see what's ugly in the first pics , it looks terrific.

Make-up plays it's role too Y'know. The old time techniques weren't the best .

In the 2nd picture we can see well layered make-up , different hair style and colour , eye contact and lotsa lighting .

So It shouldn't be like a 100 surgeries gackt has done.

Maybe just a few... v

[Azerii]

Suki-Yaki, I never said he looked bad, or that he had a ton of surgery... just saying that he looks different. I know makeup plays a role, but just look at those pictures... the shape of his face is completely different.Personally, I prefer his look around 1998 or so. He looked so good then.

Let's just hope he doesn't end up with his nose falling off like Michael Jackson.

[Horizon]

hmm, wats that video called again? the one he did with Vivian something something... anyways that video is the most obvious, and also other close ups of his face. the sides of his face are very tight and unnatural looking. and gackt is probably something like 30 something years old, i dont think you can still look that young with out any help. even Hyde is aging...

its only what i think. and most asian celebs do have surgery. so i came to this conclusion.

Yes, but he (Hyde) still looks like a 12 year old and he (Hyde) is older than Gackt by, like, 5 years or something.

So...Whose got the surgery? xDDD

[mizerable_d]

lol i said from the beginning i think that gackt has botox. i agree with Illaparatzo-sama that gackt's lips are very freakish looking...

Suki-Yaki is right also that make up does make a lot of difference. Gackt in photo shoots look a lot better because well there's special lighting and a lot of make up. i just think it's his hair that makes him look different when he had long hair he did not look very good, but then he cut his hair and look like himself now.

[Suki-Yaki]

i just think it's his hair that makes him look different when he had long hair he did not look very good, but then he cut his hair and look like himself now.


I agree too , I think it's all in the hair. Which by the way mana has never acually changed , perhaps the reason we think Mana did not do any surgeries ??

And Azerii I understand your point now , gomen. I think Gackt should have not gone through many changes in himself , and should'a known , we were gonna love him no matter how he looked :cool: !! Right , girls ?! :wave:

[Horizon]

But of course :p :cool:

And yeah, I agree about the hair thing, especially seeing that if Gackt wasn't rich and famous, no one would be saying these things. Just because a person has lots and lots of money and just because others of the same status do it doesn't mean ALL celebrities to it.

Plus, for the hair thing, when/if I grow my hair out, I bet I'll look really different too, so, yeah.

[mizerable_d]

very true, the way hair frames the face changes a lot to the looks, and its y Mana always look the same.

[ObscureAngel]

wow i like thoese pics of Gackt^^


as for mana, i have seen him without his make-up....... and all i can say is....... GAH he looks so much better with his make-up on than off. i mean for a japanese man he is really pale!!!!! and i have seen him dressed as a man before too...... wow!!!!

[mizerable_d]

yes the pic of him wearing a suit suprised me...

[ObscureAngel]

yeah i love that one!!!! its sexy and he looks great!

[mizerable_d]

the Old Mana = good girl
the current Mana = bad boy

though Mana did look like a doll in some of his dresses...

[Azerii]

the Old Mana = good girl
the current Mana = bad boy

though Mana did look like a doll in some of his dresses...

I think that's the look he wanted before. Innocent little china doll look. Now he's all "I AM MANA, HEAR ME ROAR."... without actually roaring. Or speaking. Or making any sound whatsoever. ...yeah.

[PrincessBerriKiller]

But Azerii, the pictures you just showed...go live, live ,live and then posed with a completely different hair cut and colour, better lighting, make up and no smile. Don't for get despite what gackt wants us to believe, he ages too. Dont forget there is such thing as photo touch ups for those professional photo shoots. So yes, in such a way, you are right. the REAL Gackt probably wouldn't look like that photo.

hmmm...I think its his hair cut in lydia's screen shot. but Shes right his lips do look really weird there. Then again it's a screen shot which can often make things look stranger then they seem.

haha, Horizon. some people can age differently. we must also take into account Hyde's size and his dimples that add to his younger looks. He too, has also shown signs of his ageing though. he really doesnt look as young as he did like 10 years ago.

haha. Mana's way of life in a few words (or lack therefore of) : Dont talk to others. I think thats what he lives by really...XD but I have heard him speak. And Yes he too sounded like a Man but didn't disappointme because his voice wasn't SUPER deep ....*cough* Shinya *cough* XDDDD

[Horizon]

Yeah, I know. I was just joking, ne! Although, in a way, Hyde actually looked older in his drag days, since now he has a tendency to look like a little kid. I've never seen Hyde in drag look like a little kid...

But yeah, he's getting laugh lines and wrinkles at the corners of his eyes. You can see them in some videos, ne!

[mizerable_d]

yup, he is like 36 or something atfer all...

[Azerii]

But Azerii, the pictures you just showed...go live, live ,live and then posed with a completely different hair cut and colour, better lighting, make up and no smile. Don't for get despite what gackt wants us to believe, he ages too. Dont forget there is such thing as photo touch ups for those professional photo shoots. So yes, in such a way, you are right. the REAL Gackt probably wouldn't look like that photo.
True. I didn't think about that when I posted those. But in my honest opinion, I think he HAS had surgery. It doesn't make him a bad person, people. I prefer the way he used to look, but each to their own, ne?


haha. Mana's way of life in a few words (or lack therefore of) : Dont talk to others. I think thats what he lives by really...XD but I have heard him speak. And Yes he too sounded like a Man but didn't disappointme because his voice wasn't SUPER deep ....*cough* Shinya *cough* XDDDD
I <3 Shinya's voice. He sounds so MANLY. :giggle:

[ObscureAngel]

lol Azeril, i have a clip of Kaour and Shinya playing around, the sound that comes out fo his mouth sounds like a chick! >< but i'm not complaining.... ^^ he sounded so cute.


as for mana, he does actually speak creepy i know, if you haven't already knows, he does soem of the vocals in Moi dix Mois as well, under the allies Shadow X, its so wonderfully deep, i mean the first tme i heard it i was like, " 0.o mana-sama.....WOW!"

[Azerii]

lol Azeril, i have a clip of Kaour and Shinya playing around, the sound that comes out fo his mouth sounds like a chick! >< but i'm not complaining.... ^^ he sounded so cute.


as for mana, he does actually speak creepy i know, if you haven't already knows, he does soem of the vocals in Moi dix Mois as well, under the allies Shadow X, its so wonderfully deep, i mean the first tme i heard it i was like, " 0.o mana-sama.....WOW!"

Is it that one where Kaoru is pretending to hit Shinya? He DOES sound girly in that clip. I wonder why, because he has a really deep voice. o.o; I can send you a clip of him speaking, if you'd like. ^^ Catch me on AIM, or PM me and I'll upload it for you.

[ObscureAngel]

Is it that one where Kaoru is pretending to hit Shinya? He DOES sound girly in that clip. I wonder why, because he has a really deep voice. o.o; I can send you a clip of him speaking, if you'd like. ^^ Catch me on AIM, or PM me and I'll upload it for you.


k, my aim is BloodyRose623, but i won't be on tonight, if i am, i'll send you a message^^

oh and it is the one of kaoru beating on shinya^^

[mizerable_d]

never heard mana or shinya's voice, but heard kyo and kaoru's. i have like a clip of some convo...

back to topic: i like Gackt now, especially his hair. long hair did no suit him. and mana has always looked the same.

[PrincessBerriKiller]

ewww...I hate gackts current hair....

lol why is it that Kaoru always has to punch at every one from afar while making strange noises???XDDD It amuses the heck out of me but he does it all the time...

[something]

mm, Gackt does look like he uses botox. but then again, theres makeup. As for Mana, I don't think he did any plastic surgery. You can kind of tell his "manly" face on some pictures... :relief:

[Suki-Yaki]

back to topic: i like Gackt now, especially his hair. long hair did no suit him. and mana has always looked the same.

Mizerable_d I don't think you understood me.

It is OK to curve into other directions as we discuss a certain topic , as long as it has to relation with what we are talking about .

The only thing you guys should avoid is getting into personal one-on-one discussions and completely non-related topics like what subjects you dislike in school or what foods you like most .

So everytime you post , you don't have to scroll back to the first post and see what we acually have started with .

Don't have this kinda "fear of posting" . Just take it easy , we love your posts. :wave:

Gotta be easy on you youngster monkeys ! :p :lol:

[Horizon]

yup, he is like 36 or something atfer all...

Well, yeah. Obviously so... :p But he's still cute! And hot! And pretty! xDD

[ObscureAngel]

i love gackt's VANILLA white hair color * drools* god its so sexy!!!!!!

>< i was dancing to vanilla today too.............. its so fun^^

[mizerable_d]

Mizerable_d I don't think you understood me.

It is OK to curve into other directions as we discuss a certain topic , as long as it has to relation with what we are talking about .

The only thing you guys should avoid is getting into personal one-on-one discussions and completely non-related topics like what subjects you dislike in school or what foods you like most .

So everytime you post , you don't have to scroll back to the first post and see what we acually have started with .

Don't have this kinda "fear of posting" . Just take it easy , we love your posts. :wave:

Gotta be easy on you youngster monkeys ! :p :lol:
lol ok, but you see, i got yelled at by a moderator to stay on topic so i kinda got paranoid T_T hehe

vanilla is a good song to dance to, i do it in art class all the time XD

i didnt like gackt in long hair, i dont know y. i perfer his currten hair

[ObscureAngel]

oh god, long hair did not suit him at all, i mean in Au reviour, that was creepy...... the pony tail in a bow >< na ah, that did nothing for me

[Hide My Heart]

I think the vanilla hair looked good once it mellowed out. The there was this wierd period where it was growing back out that was hideous looking. I call it the nappy gackt period.

[neostereo]

Gackt's hair looks always good. I don't know why people dislike his cornrows so much, I adore them [though they are a bit David Beckham-ish XD]. :o

As for Mana, I think he'd get his teeth done before doing any other surgeries. Have you seen his teeth? There's a big gap between the upper front teeth, it's like Madonna's, and I have that too XDD. But still, I don't know if it's repaired. :D Most Jrockers seem to have personal looking teeth. XD

[Jent]

To be quite honest, I think Gackt has had work done. And, heck, why not? I know a lot of people think plastic surgery is controversial, but I personally would do the same, if I had the money. I don't think I'm ugly, I just know that there are things I could change about myself, subtle things, that would give me a bit more confidence.
This is supposed to be Gackt's picture from his high school yearbook:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/CLUgal0819/Gackt/YoungGackt.jpg
But this isn't about Gackt. As others have said, I think Mana just wears a TON of make up. That's what I think his beauty comes from. But I like him with or without anyways.
Truly, makeup can make ANYONE pretty though.
Mana without makeup:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/MoiDixMois19/malice28.jpg

[neostereo]

Yeah, he doesn't quite look like a porcelain doll when he doesn't wear make-up. But still, he looks ok to me >D

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/pornoroughtype/indi_mana.jpg

[Damn, I WANT that hair. I want that man... x__x TT__TT]

[Hide My Heart]

OMG! Old school!!!!!!:cute:

Yeah, I dont see what the whole big deal is about plastic surgery. So what? If you've got that nerdish look and want to get rid of it go for it.

I think Mana has a certain charm even when you scrape off the ten pounds of spackle he's hiding under.

[neostereo]

I think so too. And I don't just understand what's the point of making such a big drama about surgeries, it's everyone's own business. I could easily think of getting something done with myself, it's not that bad.

If the surgery doesn't go well, THEN it's bad.

[Nana007]

I don't think Mana has had anything done. Gackt on the other had yes. Now Gackt fangirls don't kill me, because I personally think that Gackt with or without having work done is hot. And he can be my babies daddy anyday. But I think he did get some minor work done. Which I have nothing against. I don't mind plastic surgerie unless it is extreme (Micheal Jackson/the Girl who wants to be Barbie, those chicks on the swan). If I had the money damn right I would get my flaws fixed not that I am ugly anything or have low self esteem, and it would mostly be something minor like Dermabrasion because I have acne scars.

[Hide My Heart]

lol I concur. If they had a hideous opperation done then its time to laugh :blush:

Heck I can think of one i'd like to get.

[Kyo_is_my_antidrug]

I dont know if Gackt got anything done or not, either way, I still love the guy. As for Mana, I really dont think he ever did. Ive seen pics and a clip of him in his highschool band, and he really doesn't look much different than he does now; just a little younger. It's all natural beauty in my opinion!^^ Also, on that subject, I think he is still beautiful without make-up. He's so pretty...:cute: :cute: :cute:

[Hide My Heart]

Me nither. I mean if you look aat his reeallllly early days its the same person through and through. Seriously! Like a doppleganger, so altering is out of the question.

[neostereo]

That's true. And well, I don't see any point in having surgery and looking the same after it, so we'll all agree that Mana's beauty isn't from a knife? ^-^

[Hide My Heart]

Yes manas beauty obviously comes from lucifer. Beacause he only way i can ever see anyone being that beautifull is if they made a contract with the dark lord. Aaaahhhhhh.......mana sama :love: :love: :love:

[Elvira_Wyte]

Ive just been looking at my 300 pics of mana.

I mean, he is the most beautiful woman in the world right!(?) BUT He is even better looking as a guy with som makeup on! foun a couple of pics with him as guy, GOD he's beautiful!

[Jent]

I was reading somewhere that Gackt had Botox done. Though I'm unsure of how true that really is.

[Hide My Heart]

Hmm, I dont think so. I mean if you look at his highschool pic (once you get past how BAD his hair is in the pic) you can kind of see that he always had that sort of "look".

[Kinsao]

I think people make way too big an issue out of Gackt's surgery. It's not as if he had major changes.

[Hide My Heart]

Even if he did it wouldnt change the way I feel about the man. I think people make too big a deal of plastic surgery these days....:relief:

[Kyo_is_my_antidrug]

I know that Gackt had some sort of surgery on his forehead(i think...?) because of a nasty cut, so yes, he has had a little bit done, but if it goes beyond that, I dont know. And he still looks like himself in that high-school picture, just more like someone you would expect to meet walking down the street, someone you wouldn't really look twice at.

[Hide My Heart]

I wouldnt really consider that getting plastic.