Japanese Fashion - Critique. [Archive]

TwistedMac

Feb 25, 2005, 09:24

As everyone knows, there are a vast amount of sites on the net covering japanese fashion trends because.. well, it's interesting..

So I thought we could start up a thread about it.. where we take on the mantle as fashion oracles.

Just post a few pictures (really.. a few, or each page of this thread will become huge :P say 3-4 piccies per post and wait a few posts before you contribute more piccies again.. that way we've got the chance of getting more responses to a picture from others) and give your opinion on the clothes of the person in the picture you're adding to the fray. Then we can all give our 2 cents on the matter and aggree or agree to disagree.. I dunno.. I was thinking this might be fun. If it works.
Anyway, I'll start off with a few from Style Arena (http://www.style-arena.jp/)

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/shibuya/2005/02/week3/s005.jpg
comment: This is, in my opinion, the way punk was supposed to be. way out there but not over the top with bling bling. I like it.

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/shibuya/2005/02/week3/s004.jpg
comment: I like the style. Has a bit of the treehugger/feminist feeling to it. should definatelly ditch the Fanny Pack though. Horrible stuff.

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/daikanyama/2005/02/week3/d006b.jpg
She's got a nice, if rather run of the mill style going. He can't be serious.. Hoboe jacket and trucker cap? If I were gay or a pimp, I'd slap him for the general insult to the surrounding people his style is. His only redeeming value is the plectrum around his neck. funk.

Malaika

Feb 25, 2005, 11:03

Well those pictures are very interesting to look at, japanese people having their own style. *giggles*

I like all three of them.

Though. its kind of weird, because...I don't know how to put it, but japanese have a weird way of wearing whats hot and whats not. But I'm not really offended I'm just amused to the way they dress. *shrugs*

PopCulturePooka

Feb 25, 2005, 14:26

Haha good idea!

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/omotesando/2005/02/week1/a005.jpg
Interesting jacket, but the overall look reminds me of a homeless women going to a 1920's fancy dress party. The skirt is terrible.

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/omotesando/2004/12/week3/a005.jpg
I'm a firm believer that nobody should wear overalls. These are a particularly bad case of overalls too boot. And the boots give me nasty falshbacks to a student who stalked me.

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/shibuya/2004/09/week2/s001.jpg
Wow the women on the left is very stylish I think. Love the jeans and simple dark tops. The hat tops it off.

bartbeanie

Feb 25, 2005, 14:32

i really like this stuff. it reminds of TLC's what not to wear or queer eye for straight guy or gal.:)

Timsan

Feb 25, 2005, 17:06

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/harajuku/2005/02/week3/h003.jpg

Tight fitting pants always look cooler then baggy, and his awesome hair and jacket compliment them.

Row

Feb 26, 2005, 00:15

really emo styl, its gettin pretty populair in here to, leather jack, allstars, trucker hat

TwistedMac

Feb 26, 2005, 01:13

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/shibuya/2004/09/week2/s001.jpg
Wow the women on the left is very stylish I think. Love the jeans and simple dark tops. The hat tops it off.
Agreed. Sandals work great too... she has really good taste.

kirei_na_me

Feb 26, 2005, 01:36

Yeah, that's the best pic so far.

The one thing I don't like about a lot of Japanese style, is that there is too much layering going on. They always seem to have a few shirts on, a few jackets on top of that, a dress over pants, a few sock layers, etc. etc. I just don't like that. That's why I really like that girl in that last pic.

jovial_jon

Feb 26, 2005, 02:07

Jon's official 'wow, you look cool' award goes to: The first guy and the girl on the left with the sandals. The 'oh my god, what are you doing?' award goes to the girl with the overalls.

Sally_Hawn

Feb 26, 2005, 02:56

I am never a fan of Japanese fashion although my family had bought me jeans from Big John when I was 12 or 13. I don’t like French fashion either.

Japanese fashion is either too cute or too “complicated” for me. I always prefer clean-cut brands like Calvin Klein, Ann Klein, Georgia Armani and Emanuel Ungaro to Channel, Issey Miyaki and Comme des Garcons. Regrettably, lately my weight has dropped under 100lbs and according to my friends, it is called “shrinking” due to pre-mature aging, and as a result from this premature aging shrinking process, even a size-zero at Gap is too big for me … because I don’t really have an ass … Hey! But the good thing is I won’t have my ass kicked because I don’t have one.

Anyway, back to topic … maybe it is time for me to buy from Big John again. Damn! I hate those “Turnip” jeans from Big John in the early 80’s. So many pimple-faced HK guys with the so-called “Matchi” haircut wore them.

Malaika

Mar 1, 2005, 03:03

:? Yeah, that's the best pic so far.

The one thing I don't like about a lot of Japanese style, is that there is too much layering going on. They always seem to have a few shirts on, a few jackets on top of that, a dress over pants, a few sock layers, etc. etc. I just don't like that. That's why I really like that girl in that last pic.

Actually that is true, I don't really notice, I just take one look and then that's it. :souka:

I'm not really looking at the details of clothing or how much clothing they wear.

Now that you mention it, I have second thoughts of the way they dress.

Maybe its because ....one piece of clothing to wear isn't enough? or something like that. :?

yorkii

Mar 1, 2005, 03:10

:?

Actually that is true, I don't really notice, I just take one look and then that's it. :souka:

I'm not really looking at the details of clothing or how much clothing they wear.

Now that you mention it, I have second thoughts of the way they dress.

Maybe its because ....one piece of clothing to wear isn't enough? or something like that. :?

nah, its just cuz they're cold :p

Doc

Mar 1, 2005, 04:03

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/harajuku/2005/02/week3/h003.jpg

Tight fitting pants always look cooler then baggy, and his awesome hair and jacket compliment them.

That guy would have the **** kicked out of him if wore that in my neighborhood. Either that or shot. Seriously.

Doc

lexico

Mar 1, 2005, 04:10

That guy would have the **** kicked out of him if wore that in my neighborhood. Either that or shot. Seriously.

DocI know you're serious, and I remember what you said about the place, but I don't get it. Dressed different gets and you can get shot at ?

Doc

Mar 1, 2005, 04:20

Gangbangers hate that kind of dress. They will literally shoot you if they find you a threat, even to bad fashion.

Doc

lexico

Mar 1, 2005, 04:30

Without overreacting, this is way beyond rude. They should be commited to a mental institue for examination and deep counselling to see if they can get along without intervention.
It's a public health breach; who are the people responsible for that except the police ? Why are they not taking care of it ?

If it's widespread, why not bring in the national guards for a round up ?
I'm probably ignorant for saying this, but that is too much.

Doc

Mar 1, 2005, 04:44

Well I was really exaggerating on the matter, but there is some truth to it. In a dinky little town of less than 5,000 where I live you'd only get laughed at for wearing that kind of dress. You'd probably have some country boys look at you strangely too. As for the city, I wouldn't doubt you getting shot for wearing those kind of clothes. Gangs have a code of conduct, and if you wear anything that is remotely in their gang's color, you'll probably end up shot or dead. I'm not lying this one. I remember a story about a guy who raped a girl that was the best friend to the leader of a local frat I know of. The friend took the rapist, dragged him into downtown St. Louis with his buddies, dumped him in South St. Louis, wrote a word on the rapist's forehead that basically said he f***** up, then left him there. The rapist ended up in ICU for a week. You just don't mess with inner city gangs. One wrong move, and you're dead.

Actually the police are starting to get personal with civilians now when it deals with crime. Youth orignizations, stronger neighborhood watches, and several other programs are being started to keep young males from raping and disrespecting women and getting into a life of crime. President Bush even proposed a new system to help on the matter. The First Lady will actually help run it as well.

Doc

Mcspi

Mar 1, 2005, 04:57

I like the picture of the 2 girls they look really cute. I have to say I also don't like all the layering either. Just a thought, it looks like some of them are layering because it is cold.

TwistedMac

Mar 1, 2005, 04:59

Malaika

Mar 1, 2005, 04:59

nah, its just cuz they're cold :p

hmm...so is it always cold in japan?

I mean we have japanese people over here as well, who go to college and they wear well...maybe one or two pieces of clothing, even though its not always cold here, depending on the weather.

:?

Doc

Mar 1, 2005, 05:06

dude, raping some gang leaders girl is hardly "one wrong move".

And you could hardly compare it to wearing the wrong kind of clothes :p

you're overreacting insanely and frankly, seriously thinking he'd be killed is ignorant.
Typical for people from small communities to think people from big cities (gangs or otherwise) kill eachother for no good reasons.

It wasn't a gang, it was a fraturnity leader. He was the house manager. What he wrote on the guys head isn't what really matters, but the fact he was left in a bad part of town where gangbangers love to do that kind of crap to people. And how would know about dress? Look I've been in St. Louis before to see this kind of crap okay? I know what it's like. I'm not just some little small town punk who doesn't know the ways of the city, other than what's shown on tv. I've been and stayed in that city more times than would like to count. I actually prefer the city over this dinky ass little town. Besides I know people who have been chased off because of the way they were dressed. Besides it's only one section of the city that's bad, and that's the South end. Other than that, it's a pretty nice city to hang out in. I was just pointing out that there have been incidents where people are harassed and even harmed just for wearing "different" styling of clothing. Jeez, you don't have to go ape on me for it. :okashii:BTW you're not invited to my orgy anymore.:(

Anyway getting back on topic, I must say that the girl on the left in this picture is the most fashionable. Sandals really do work well with that type of dress.
http://www.style-arena.jp/street/shibuya/2004/09/week2/s001.jpg

Doc

Kama

Mar 1, 2005, 05:07

I know you're serious, and I remember what you said about the place, but I don't get it. Dressed different gets and you can get shot at ?

Haha. I'd like you to ask where you are living Lexico, that you don't thinks it's possible. :D It's quite true here too. You have to be careful what and where you are wearing. They won't shoot you down (as they don't have guns) but thay can beat you up (to death sometimes).

I like layers in clothes. 2 or 3 are enough. :) There is no need for more.

lexico

Mar 1, 2005, 05:45

Haha. I'd like you to ask where you are living Lexico, that you don't thinks it's possible. :D It's quite true here too. You have to be careful what and where you are wearing. They won't shoot you down (as they don't have guns) but thay can beat you up (to death sometimes).

I like layers in clothes. 2 or 3 are enough. :) There is no need for more.I don't mind telling you where I live. If you have an Atlas, turn to Korea, South, that is, and lookup 大田, daijon, or taecheon, or daejeon, depending on romanization which is crazy. About the middle of S.Korea. People do tell me that Korea is safe in comparison. We are not allowed to bear fire arms either, though sometimes I wished. For protection only.

There are local gang members wanting to act out the cold-yakuza type, but they're just a bunch of losers with nothing better to do. They usually end up selling wholesale beer and stuff. These small timers don't actively pick on other people's clothes. Only when I confronted them for rude/illegal behavior did they start their routine, but never for what I wore.

What you guys are saying is both shocking and informative I should say. Check out the local fashion before travelling! One question for you; do you think this is a global trend for gangbangers to beat people up for dressing like them or not like them ? I am still a little confused here, having lived in the land of calm. I had an incident in Beijing, but I comment on their rude behavior, so that doesn't count. Never had trouble in Oakland, California either. But maybe it's just me, the hippie kind of guy. Boy do I sound corny !

Doc

Mar 1, 2005, 06:03

I don't mind telling you where I live. If you have an Atlas, turn to Korea, South, that is, and lookup 大田, daijon, or taecheon, or daejeon, depending on romanization which is crazy. About the middle of S.Korea. People do tell me that Korea is safe in comparison. We are not allowed to bear fire arms either, though sometimes I wished. For protection only.

There are local gang members wanting to act out the cold-yakuza type, but they're just a bunch of losers with nothing better to do. They usually end up selling wholesale beer and stuff. These small timers don't actively pick on other people's clothes. Only when I confronted them for rude/illegal behavior did they start their routine, but never for what I wore.

What you guys are saying is both shocking and informative I should say. Check out the local fashion before travelling! One question for you; do you think this is a global trend for gangbangers to beat people up for dressing like them or not like them ? I am still a little confused here, having lived in the land of calm. I had an incident in Beijing, but I comment on their rude behavior, so that doesn't count. Never had trouble in Oakland, California either. But maybe it's just me, the hippie kind of guy. Boy do I sound corny !

Well from personal experience I haven't had any problems, of course I'm just like your Average Joe (slacks and a casual button up shirt). Now I have heard of people getting beat up. I have seen people chased off for wearing non netural gang colors, or wearing something that seems fun to the gangbangers to harass people over, but not that much. I'm sorry if I was a little overexuberant on the matter. I was just saying that sometimes people do get beat up and chased off for their sense of fashion. While I've never seen it happen that much, that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen a whole lot either. Either way, there are some really stupid people out there who hurt or harass people for the most stupid of things.

Doc

Kama

Mar 1, 2005, 08:50

Well, I didn't have any problems ever too. (I'm too lucky or too stupid) but some stupid punks were throwing stones at my friends just because they were clothed in black. (=satanists? XD) I read also about beating up to death a tranvestite guy. Of course, it's a minority, but it do happens.

What I can tell from my own experience - people do comment a strange look and make jokes (funny only for them). they don't like people having a different style, and bully them. unfotunately. :(

Timsan

Mar 1, 2005, 12:53

That guy would have the **** kicked out of him if wore that in my neighborhood. Either that or shot. Seriously.

Doc

Then it is good that not everyone has to live in hovels filled with gun wielding American simpletons.

Doc

Mar 1, 2005, 13:38

Then it is good that not everyone has to live in hovels filled with gun wielding American simpletons.

Dude it was a joke. We were getting back on topic. As a matter of fact does anybody have any more pictures of fashion sense in Japan?

Doc

Takara

Mar 4, 2005, 18:16

http://www.style-arena.jp/street/shibuya/2004/09/week2/s001.jpg

I think that the one of the left has good taste! I like the outfit she's wearing!

I always go to japanesestreets.com,and I was wondering, does the pics there really show that some people really do dress like that? I hope that my question makes sense.

yorkii

Mar 5, 2005, 00:25

hmm...so is it always cold in japan?

I mean we have japanese people over here as well, who go to college and they wear well...maybe one or two pieces of clothing, even though its not always cold here, depending on the weather.

:?

i have no idea really :bluush: :bluush: :blush:

i was only kidding

:sorry:

pinkkillerkisou

Mar 5, 2005, 03:11

This thread is very interesting... I am in love with the first guys outfit... it's very interesting... many layers in it but not flashy or obnoxious... he's not bad lookng either. I love his hair.

Lacan

Mar 5, 2005, 07:51

simple and very stylish
http://www.style-arena.jp/street/omotesando/2005/01/week4/a001.jpg
excusez-moi mademoiselle...vous etes libre ces 50 prochaines annees?

Doc

Mar 5, 2005, 08:10

Very nice Lacan!:-)

Doc

TwistedMac

Mar 5, 2005, 08:11

but in 50 years she might not be so hot, Lacan ;)

Takara

Mar 5, 2005, 15:22

Lacan, nice pic you showed!

Forgotten

Mar 6, 2005, 11:50

This thread is very interesting... I am in love with the first guys outfit... it's very interesting... many layers in it but not flashy or obnoxious... he's not bad lookng either. I love his hair.

I have two teenage daughters and they were telling me about clothing they want to purchase. They called it "japanese layers".

bkun

Mar 7, 2005, 16:23

I checked out that site, japanesestreets.com, and yes, the japanese do have a strange sense of style and in my opinion a bit over the top.

I also totally agree on Doc's opinion, and i can see how and why individuals would get shot or severly injured for wearing such outfits.

Anyways there too much clothes involve with their style ( japanese layering ).

Just give me a good pair of denim and white tee and im set.
(underwear optional ) :lol:

pinkkillerkisou

Mar 8, 2005, 03:59

I have two teenage daughters and they were telling me about clothing they want to purchase. They called it "japanese layers".

Yea. That's a pretty common way of refering to it. Sometimes they over do it though. There such a thing as too many layers. It looks kinda funny and bulky if you wear to many.

simple and very stylish
http://www.style-arena.jp/street/omotesando/2005/01/week4/a001.jpg
excusez-moi mademoiselle...vous etes libre ces 50 prochaines annees?

Haha... your too cute. She is very stylish. It's a nice photo too. They caught her at a good time... with her blowing back and everything and a perfect expression on herface. Seems almost like one of those scenes in a movie... the love at first sight kind of things... or in the comedies where she makes a really clumsy fall and it is "revealed" she wears granny panties... or she's really a he... haha... ummm hope that didn't ruin your fantasy :sorry: .

Malaika

Mar 8, 2005, 10:38

simple and very stylish
http://www.style-arena.jp/street/omotesando/2005/01/week4/a001.jpg
excusez-moi mademoiselle...vous etes libre ces 50 prochaines annees?

*giggles* haha this pictures sort of reminded me of kagome from the anime series "Inuyasha" don't ask me why, it just suddenly popped in my head.

:-)

Lacan

Mar 8, 2005, 20:48

but in 50 years she might not be so hot, Lacan ;)
and i might not be so healthy as well ;)

ss045

Mar 9, 2005, 03:14

PopCulturePooka

Mar 9, 2005, 08:06

but, in general: faded jeans, tiny t-shirts, stupid hair, ugly shoes, clothes from thrift stores; all thats been done by the japanese a long time ago and it just recently caught on in the US.
Really?
I thought grunge was big only 10 years or so ago?

TwistedMac

Mar 9, 2005, 11:00

japanese kids been wearing trucker caps since back in the day. and it just recently got popularized in the states by that guy on MTV and then it died back down again. in my opinion, people are starting to dress "japanese" now in the states. except the hip hoppers. but, in general: faded jeans, tiny t-shirts, stupid hair, ugly shoes, clothes from thrift stores; all thats been done by the japanese a long time ago and it just recently caught on in the US.
I think you're underestimating the US.. either that or it all originated in Europe.. I guess that's not so far fetched.. but I really think trucker caps and the grunge was American..

Truckercaps were huge over here in the mid eighties... they're just coming back now... I think it might be impossible to really say who "invented" what style with all the inspiration being pushed back and forth.. ButI think it's pretty safe to say the Japanese kids now are being inspired by just about anything from anywhere else, mixing it all together to create all sorts of new stuff.

ArmandV

Mar 9, 2005, 12:36

i have no idea really :bluush: :bluush: :blush:

:sorry:

Since Japanese people have less body fat than the average American, they tend to dress warmer in 50° weather, hence the layering. While Americans can go to Tokyo in November and be perfectly comfortable in a sweater or windbreaker at 50°, you'll see Japanese wearing parkas.

However, they have the advantage over us during summer in Japan. While we were sweating like pigs in their heat and humidity, they appeared a lot more comfortable and dry.

yukio_michael

Mar 9, 2005, 14:09

the emo 'hobo' look is great... it's probably a Hysteric Glamour hobo hat, but still... good stuff.

ss045

Mar 10, 2005, 04:22

I think you're underestimating the US.. either that or it all originated in Europe.. I guess that's not so far fetched.. but I really think trucker caps and the grunge was American..

Truckercaps were huge over here in the mid eighties... they're just coming back now... I think it might be impossible to really say who "invented" what style with all the inspiration being pushed back and forth.. ButI think it's pretty safe to say the Japanese kids now are being inspired by just about anything from anywhere else, mixing it all together to create all sorts of new stuff.

I'll just wear this t-shirt to be cool with all of you Maroon 5 fans:
http://www.bustedtees.com/product.php?name=thriftstore

Malaika

Mar 15, 2005, 12:53

Since Japanese people have less body fat than the average American, they tend to dress warmer in 50° weather, hence the layering. While Americans can go to Tokyo in November and be perfectly comfortable in a sweater or windbreaker at 50°, you'll see Japanese wearing parkas.

However, they have the advantage over us during summer in Japan. While we were sweating like pigs in their heat and humidity, they appeared a lot more comfortable and dry.

0____0 whaaa?! oh I'm just so jealous of them! *pouts*