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Poli BG
Apr 5, 2005, 00:25
Please guys, HELP!
I tattooed two japanese hieroglyphs, which I saw from an engraving by Kitagava Utamaro, but I can't find anywhere what they mean.
I would be very very thankful if anyone would like to translate them to me.
This is my e-mail: no_resolution@mail.bg
If anyone wants to help I'll send him/her pictures.
Thank you
Poli, Bulgaria
Brooker
Apr 5, 2005, 06:20
You got a tatoo without knowing what it meant? :okashii: It might say "stupid gaijin" for all you know. So much for getting meaningful tatoos.
Dutch Baka
Apr 5, 2005, 06:24
hehe,,, i thought i was the only Baka here... oww i geuss im the dutch one..
good luck finding the meaning of it...
Owww Btw... your first post... WELCOME TO JREF :bravo:
Sensuikan San
Apr 5, 2005, 07:36
I do so hope that it doesn't say "...I'm anybody's for twenty bucks ..." !
More than likely - it says "...visit Harry's Tattoo Parlor ..." - or something like it !
Regards - and Welcome Aboard ! !
ジョン
RockLee
Apr 5, 2005, 07:51
You got a tatoo without knowing what it meant? :okashii: It might say "stupid gaijin" for all you know. So much for getting meaningful tatoos.Stupid gaijin from an engravement by a famous artist ?? That would be highly unprobable as Kitagawa Utamaro lived from 1753 to 1806 ;-)
kirei_na_me
Apr 5, 2005, 08:15
You got a tatoo without knowing what it meant? :okashii: It might say "stupid gaijin" for all you know. So much for getting meaningful tatoos.
I agree. I would never get something tattooed on me that I didn't know what it meant. I'd be scared it said something really bad... :souka:
Damicci
Apr 5, 2005, 08:17
Please guys, HELP!
I tattooed two japanese hieroglyphs, which I saw from an engraving by Kitagava Utamaro, but I can't find anywhere what they mean.
I would be very very thankful if anyone would like to translate them to me.
This is my e-mail: no_resolution@mail.bg
If anyone wants to help I'll send him/her pictures.
Thank you
Poli, Bulgaria
Self inflicted PWN3D.
Research my friend does wonders for you. :souka:
FireyRei
Apr 5, 2005, 11:54
Getting tattoo's without knowing the meaning...
Clever, real clever.
just post the pics on the forum and someone will review and give you an answer eventually...
I had e-mailed Poli BG, so I can help translate because I'm curious what it says.
mad pierrot
Apr 5, 2005, 14:08
Haha, I hope it's something funny.
It would be a big let down if it was something mundane, like "Purple Flower Love."
Who ever sees the kanji make sure to tell him it is something horrible at first if it is something normal, then wait a bit to let it set in and tell him the real meaning :)
...and post the answer here, weｴre all veeerryyyy curious now.. :)
RockLee
Apr 5, 2005, 19:30
if he would want everyone to know...he'd posted the pics right away...;-)
BrennaCeDria
Apr 5, 2005, 20:40
Yea, he'd have his answer by now if he had. I just wish it would say "stupid gaijin" or something.
sounds like a publicity stunt...but what do I know? :D
yukio_michael
Apr 6, 2005, 02:55
Seems like a lot of work to help someone who got a permanant marking on their body in a language THEY DIDN'T KNOW.... (Smacks Forhead!)...
ばかわろ なあ。。。。。。
Dutch Baka
Apr 6, 2005, 03:30
mmm maby it says just : love and power or something....
his first post,, we should be nice a bit ne....
well waiting waiting,, for the Meaning
Brooker
Apr 6, 2005, 05:29
I heard of a guy getting a tatoo in Chinese and he screwed up the translation and it said something like, "In the morning, he's still ugly". :D Don't know what he was trying to make it say.
Mycernius
Apr 6, 2005, 05:36
I saw someone with the Kanji for 'lengthy' on the back of his vest once. Next time I see him I think I'll tell him that it means 'bed wetter' or something. Make him think before he puts it on his skin. :D
I think the lesson here is 'Check before, not after permanently marking yourself'
Dutch Baka
Apr 6, 2005, 05:50
doesn't david beckham have a tatoo with arabian text on it, that is wrongly spelled?
Mycernius
Apr 6, 2005, 06:02
I think it is supposed to be Hindi for 'Victoria', but Beckham never struck me as one of lifes bright sparks. :p Mind you he is very rich, so what does he care
pinkkillerkisou
Apr 6, 2005, 06:45
Well, first off... are you nuts! For all you know your tattoo could be something gang related or something like the kanji for kitchen or something cheesy like that.
Secondly, tattoos aren't the greatest thing in the world to do to yourself. You know most places don't sterilize their equipment according to "health codes". A friend of mine got HIV from a getting tattoo with an unsteterilized needle.
Maybe I'm being mean but I do agree with those who say they hope it means stupid gaijin. I do hope it is something that will give me a good laugh.
RockLee
Apr 7, 2005, 10:46
Well, first off... are you nuts! For all you know your tattoo could be something gang related or something like the kanji for kitchen or something cheesy like that.
Secondly, tattoos aren't the greatest thing in the world to do to yourself. You know most places don't sterilize their equipment according to "health codes". A friend of mine got HIV from a getting tattoo with an unsteterilized needle.
Maybe I'm being mean but I do agree with those who say they hope it means stupid gaijin. I do hope it is something that will give me a good laugh.
Even if he should've known better, it's not polite to smear it in his face and make fun of it...I should give u all neg. rep. for this :okashii:
.... (Smacks Forhead!)...。。。。。。That must have hurt, yukio_neko^o... (Your Forehead !)... :evil:
Honestly guys, you being so mean I don't think you'll ever get the satisfaction of knowing.
Who'd be that dumb ? :okashii:
And like they say, life is like a box of chocolates. Whatever that means.
Damicci
Apr 8, 2005, 04:35
Well, first off... are you nuts! For all you know your tattoo could be something gang related or something like the kanji for kitchen or something cheesy like that.
Secondly, tattoos aren't the greatest thing in the world to do to yourself. You know most places don't sterilize their equipment according to "health codes". A friend of mine got HIV from a getting tattoo with an unsteterilized needle.
Maybe I'm being mean but I do agree with those who say they hope it means stupid gaijin. I do hope it is something that will give me a good laugh.
I think that is a lil harsh of a response it's almost like askign him to die.
anyway this like the tootsie pop question "The world may never know"
pinkkillerkisou
Apr 8, 2005, 07:45
No I am not asking him to die. Try to understand where I am coming from. A close friend of mine's life has changed drastically just for the sake of being cool. I am sorry... I should have took more time to choose my words more wisely. Just thinking of all the people out there making the same mistake he did makes me angry and sad... like I said I should have thought out my reply more thoroughly.
Well, I have gotten the answer to all these mysteries that you guys are hoping to know, but I can't really reveal it without the poster's permission.
I will tell you that it is nothing bad or stupid.
Now, you can use your imagination or just send an e-mail to Poli BG.
TamagoKun
Apr 8, 2005, 08:41
Well, first off... are you nuts! For all you know your tattoo could be something gang related or something like the kanji for kitchen or something cheesy like that.
Secondly, tattoos aren't the greatest thing in the world to do to yourself. You know most places don't sterilize their equipment according to "health codes". A friend of mine got HIV from a getting tattoo with an unsteterilized needle.
Maybe I'm being mean but I do agree with those who say they hope it means stupid gaijin. I do hope it is something that will give me a good laugh.
Funny thing, a Japanese friend of mine ran into a man around here who had the characters for "kitchen" tattooed on the back of his neck. Turns out the guy just saw 2 characters that looked "cool" and asked for those.
pinkkillerkisou
Apr 8, 2005, 09:21
Haha... well I saw it in a movie once... the guy asked for ninja and they tattooed kitchen on him arm. Poor guy died and never found out what it really meant XD
PopCulturePooka
Apr 8, 2005, 10:09
Isn't their a website where a chinese guy makes fun of idiots that have bad kanji and chinese tatoos?
On a releated note, I heard Britney Spears got a 'kabalah' tatoo that turned out to be gibberish.
i cant understand how people can put a mark on their skin if they don't know what it means. i mean if i put "honor" on my skin and nobody can understand it because its some kanji whats the point? if it is in western letters though it MAKES a point even though its pretty retarded because there is no such thing as honor in our modern society (was replaced by pride :D imo)
kirei_na_me
Apr 9, 2005, 09:48
Isn't their a website where a chinese guy makes fun of idiots that have bad kanji and chinese tatoos?
On a releated note, I heard Britney Spears got a 'kabalah' tatoo that turned out to be gibberish.
That makes me laugh.
TamagoKun
Apr 10, 2005, 13:02
Isn't their a website where a chinese guy makes fun of idiots that have bad kanji and chinese tatoos?
I believe you mean this (http://www.soufoaklin.com/tattooartist.html) which has been said to be a fake though.
As for why a gaijin might get a tattoo of a kanji character. Personally i've been thinking for the past year of getting one. It wouldn't be for the sake of someone else, i don't care if someone else can read it or not. I'd get it because it would mean something to me.
PopCulturePooka
Apr 10, 2005, 16:08
I believe you mean this (http://www.soufoaklin.com/tattooartist.html) which has been said to be a fake though.
Nah its a blog, people can submit pictures.
If I got a kanji I'd purposely get something bizzare like 'Chicken Flavoured Cup Noodles' or some such.
TheKansaiKid
Apr 10, 2005, 16:43
If I got a kanji I'd purposely get something bizzare like 'Chicken Flavoured Cup Noodles' or some such.
Now that is brilliant. :cool:
I went to Disneyland in the US last month and saw a ton of Kanji tattoos mostly "chikara" and similar ilk, but if I saw a cup noodle tattoo I think I would wet myself laughing
Jungle Boy
Apr 10, 2005, 17:39
No I am not asking him to die. Try to understand where I am coming from. A close friend of mine's life has changed drastically just for the sake of being cool. I am sorry... I should have took more time to choose my words more wisely. Just thinking of all the people out there making the same mistake he did makes me angry and sad... like I said I should have thought out my reply more thoroughly.
Did your friend go to a reputable shop? Any reputable shop will have an autoclave that is inspected monthly and will have to have passed a spore test...
The chance of getting aids from a tattoo needle is very, very low...unless the needles are not cleaned at all...most likely a job done by a friend or someone working out of thier house?
RockLee
Apr 11, 2005, 01:52
“I think I’m helping my fellow man by labeling all the stupid people in the world,” he explained. “It’s not a crime, it’s a public service. Hahahaha !! Now that's a statement ! :giggle:
Damicci
Apr 11, 2005, 02:21
Wow those people are stupid. They deserve to have dumbshit tattoo'd on them for being so ignorant.
I have kanji on me but i took the time to research it and I KNOW what it means and so do my asian friends. It also does have meaning to me. I can understand where Sakai-san is coming from.
I applaud his efforts.
Brooker
Apr 11, 2005, 04:13
That article is really funny, but (if true) that guy is a real jerk.
Dutch Baka
Apr 11, 2005, 06:14
On a releated note, I heard Britney Spears got a 'kabalah' tatoo that turned out to be gibberish.
Why am i not suprised about this haha :relief:
Matadon
Apr 11, 2005, 12:58
Personally, I hate tattoos, and I doubly hate tattoos in languages the tattooee doesn't understand. In addition to being a hardcore geek, I'm also a fitness nut, and pretty much everyone at the gym, flabby or not, has some type of tattoo. Hell, I've even had people ask me why I don't have one -- like this makes me a leper or something.
I honestly find it funny as hell when people with tattoos go to places like Japan, and discover that they can't get into the onsen or public baths because of their ink.
Jungle Boy
Apr 11, 2005, 20:45
Personally, I hate tattoos, and I doubly hate tattoos in languages the tattooee doesn't understand. In addition to being a hardcore geek, I'm also a fitness nut, and pretty much everyone at the gym, flabby or not, has some type of tattoo. Hell, I've even had people ask me why I don't have one -- like this makes me a leper or something.
I honestly find it funny as hell when people with tattoos go to places like Japan, and discover that they can't get into the onsen or public baths because of their ink.
So you find it funny when people are discriminated agianst because of the colours of thier skin? I find that sad...
PopCulturePooka
Apr 11, 2005, 21:48
So you find it funny when people are discriminated agianst because of the colours of thier skin? I find that sad...
reread it.
He said its funny when people who deface their bodies get discriminated against.
Jungle Boy
Apr 12, 2005, 08:40
reread it.
He said its funny when people who deface their bodies get discriminated against.
I read it the first time...and where I come from such discrimination agianst a person with different colours of skin (wether that be black, white, yellow, green, orange etc) is a criminal offense punishable by jail time.
PopCulturePooka
Apr 12, 2005, 09:44
I read it the first time...and where I come from such discrimination agianst a person with different colours of skin (wether that be black, white, yellow, green, orange etc) is a criminal offense punishable by jail time.
Unfortunately its not a criminal offence in Japan.
Heck as far as I know, in Australia having excess ink will work against you in job interviews etc.
Jungle Boy
Apr 12, 2005, 09:58
It may "work agianst you" here aswell...but honestly it's pretty good here. If you fear you have been discriminated agiast then you can file a complaint..many companies are very wary of this and are liberal in thier hiring process. In most cases if you have the skills then you will be hired..regardless of your skin colour(s).
King of Tokyo
Apr 12, 2005, 10:04
It may "work agianst you" here aswell...but honestly it's pretty good here. If you fear you have been discriminated agiast then you can file a complaint..many companies are very wary of this and are liberal in thier hiring process. In most cases if you have the skills then you will be hired..regardless of your skin colour(s).
He is talking about having TATOOS. Not SKIN COLOUR. Being discriminated against because you have tatoos is the current topic of conversation. Not skin colour.
You must interpret the english language correctly, my friend.
I think his point was that a tattoo is skin coloration--and could technicaly count...
...maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but the idea seems funny to me.
TheKansaiKid
Apr 12, 2005, 16:10
comparing racial discrimination and "tatoo discrimination" demeans those who have fought so hard against the former.
A tattoo is a statement, these statements range almost infinately from public shows of pride and unity like a "semper fi" on the forearm, to an extremely personal show of love and commitment like a lovers name over your heart. In the case of large scale tattoos displayed on publicly visible parts of the body the message seems to me to be "I have no respect for society's rules and limitations". This may be a valid oppinion and I feel that anyone who wants to make that statement should be allowed to do so. However if I am an employer who is looking for someone to deal with the public I would feel that those tatoos would send the wrong message to my prospective customers and I think I should have the right to say I don't want you to work for me. I personally have nothing against "really inked" people, but I think I should have the right to hire someone based on what is right for my company.
On the other hand race is not a statement it is a funamental part of who we are. To allow me to say "my target customer is a neonazi in illinois so I can't hire a black woman" is morally wrong and an entirely different case. To try to piggyback "ink discrimination" with race discrimination pays a grave disservice to King, Parks, Mandela and many others who fought/fight against discrimination.
Mycernius
Apr 13, 2005, 03:00
Has anybody found the answer to the original question yet?
pinkkillerkisou
Apr 13, 2005, 03:11
Has anybody found the answer to the original question yet?
misa.j got the answer. I think were still waiting on the original posters permission to post what it means.
King of Tokyo
Apr 13, 2005, 03:11
Has anybody found the answer to the original question yet?
Misa.j has, but she won't tell anyone. Heh.
Matadon
Jun 14, 2005, 02:33
So you find it funny when people are discriminated agianst because of the colours of thier skin? I find that sad...
Tattoos are a choice. Race is not. I find it very funny when people who make very stupid choices end up getting exactly what they deserve. This is why I also enjoy the Darwin Awards.
Timsan
Jun 14, 2005, 04:34
Please guys, HELP!
I tattooed two japanese hieroglyphs, which I saw from an engraving by Kitagava Utamaro, but I can't find anywhere what they mean.
I would be very very thankful if anyone would like to translate them to me.
This is my e-mail: no_resolution@mail.bg
If anyone wants to help I'll send him/her pictures.
Thank you
Poli, Bulgaria
you sir, are an idiot
TwistedMac
Jun 14, 2005, 04:54
Self inflicted PWN3D.
quoted for truth
Jungle Boy
Jun 14, 2005, 05:38
Tattoos are a choice. Race is not. I find it very funny when people who make very stupid choices end up getting exactly what they deserve. This is why I also enjoy the Darwin Awards.
There is a huge difference between the two.... A couple having sex while flying a plane and crashing into someones corn field = Darwin Award and stupid..getting what you deserve etc.
Having somebody purposely discriminate agianst you because you look different ei: different colour(s) of skin is biggotry at the LEAST and the law agrees with me..even in the case of body art.
Huge difference...sorry you cant see that.
You remind me of the character in the movie Moon Child who wanted to be a Ninja. So he "thought" it would be a good idea to get a tattoo that said Ninja. Only the one he got meant KITCHEN :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: The moral to this store or point in case...YOU'RE SO SCREWED :lol: :lol: :lol: and to make matters worse his friends knew what his tattoo really meant and never said a word but kept laughing really out loud :evil: OH...YOU'RE SO SCREWED :D :D :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :evil: :evil:
But really, I don't mean to make fun. However, you should go to reference book store on the subject and translate what it means. :-) :souka:
Endsight61
Jun 14, 2005, 06:59
Kitchen!!!?? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
lastmagi
Jun 14, 2005, 08:29
You remind me of the character in the movie Moon Child who wanted to be a Ninja. So he "thought" it would be a good idea to get a tattoo that said Ninja. Only the one he got meant KITCHEN :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: The moral to this store or point in case...YOU'RE SO SCREWED :lol: :lol: :lol: and to make matters worse his friends knew what his tattoo really meant and never said a word but kept laughing really out loud :evil: OH...YOU'RE SO SCREWED :D :D :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :evil: :evil:
But really, I don't mean to make fun. However, you should go to reference book store on the subject and translate what it means. :-) :souka:
That was actually the movie that "pinkkillerkisou" was talking about.
Anyway.... hm.... tact?
Matadon
Jun 15, 2005, 02:04
There is a huge difference between the two.... A couple having sex while flying a plane and crashing into someones corn field = Darwin Award and stupid..getting what you deserve etc.
Having somebody purposely discriminate agianst you because you look different ei: different colour(s) of skin is biggotry at the LEAST and the law agrees with me..even in the case of body art.
Huge difference...sorry you cant see that.
No, I can, and what you seem to be unable to process is the difference between a choice (tattoo), and between a genetically-determined physical quality (racial characteristics).
Discriminating against someone based on something they have little or no control over (e.g., race, handicaps, etc.) is moronic at best, especially when it comes to something like 'race', which doesn't even really *exist* in any meaningful scientific sense.
Discriminating against a person based on the decisions they have made is, well, something so basic that I think the only words I can give for it are 'common sense'. Would you hire an employee to run your books who had served time in prison for embezzlement? How about a drug addict to work in a pharmacy, distributing medications? Would you hire someone who never bathes to walk around in public and promote your fine line of perfumes?
All of these things are CHOICES. Things that you, as a sentient entity, make a conscious effort to do, and as such, you receive the benefits or detriments that come from those choices. If you choose to get tattoos, that's just fine, but don't call it 'discrimination' or 'racism' if somebody else chooses not to like them. I don't have to like your clothing, taste in music, political opinions, or brand of deodorant, either.
The only difference that a tattoo has, compared to any of these other things, is that it's a permanent choice, like getting plastic surgery. Which means that, for better or for worse, no matter what society's whims, you are stuck with the results of that choice. Laser removal is an option, but it leaves some pretty nasty scars that don't always heal well.
So, how does this relate to my dislike of tattoos?
Someone else in this thread mentioned that 'the only bad choice is one that doesn't give you other choices', and a tattoo fits into that category. When I see someone with a tattoo, I instantly know that they lack a certain type of foresight, because they have made a choice which they cannot reverse. Someone who chooses to drop out of school can eventually graduate. Someone who buys weird clothing can change their style. Someone who never showers can take a bath. All of these choices can be reversed; the people have, even if only unconsciously, left themselves room for change.
A tattoo does not grant this luxury. When I see someone with a tattoo, I know that their planning horizion is five years at best. On top of that, MOST tattoos are part of a social trend, which means that the recipient of the tattoo is likely quite bendable to peer pressure, rather than making their own decisions.
This is not the sort of person I want making any sort of important decision.
Rich303
Jun 15, 2005, 02:25
I have to agree with some of what Matadon says above.
I saw a homeless guy at Victoria station who had (rubbish!) tattoos all over his face.
I wonder how much this affected his prospects in life and his subsequent downward spiral into a life of begging.
I know we shouldn't judge too much on appearances, but unless you are living in some alternative community, having your whole face tattooed is not going to open any doors for you.
P.S I don't have a problem with more discreet tattoos - such as ones that say 'I love Richard' on a ladie's bum!...sorry, couldn't stay serious for long. Ha ha..Rich303
misa.j
Jun 15, 2005, 05:23
For those of you who is still curious about Poli's tattoo, I just got permission today. It is actually very pretty.
Are you ready?
It says "Uta-maro-work or wrote", which is the artist's name Poli had mentioned in his first post, written in old Japanese style text.
lexico
Jun 15, 2005, 05:30
They look quite beautiful. What calligraphic style are these ?
Was it expensive to get those tattoos ?
Did poli tell you what they meant ? :?
Endsight61
Jun 15, 2005, 07:16
The style looks like hiragana but it probably isn't. I pla on getting a tattoo as well...i just have to translate it into calligraphy.
That was actually the movie that "pinkkillerkisou" was talking about.
Anyway.... hm.... tact?
:-) Ah.. I was tactful note: (Poli got a tattoo without first researching the translation and now this persons wants help translating the meaning) Hm.... :okashii: Although I have a tattoo of the word "SKIN" (no one can see it),I also can respect pinkkillerkisou's opinion on the subject of tattoo's. One must decide the importance of such (tattoos) before endeavoring in fads or just because my friend says it's cool(some workstations are very dirty too). I researched and pondered over the decision to get a tattoo and It was for me only! Not to mention the parlor was a susperb establishment as well as the individual who did the work! One must be responsible for their actions and it should weight heavily on them not others
Note: (By the way Poli it looks very beautiful to the eye)
lexico
Jun 15, 2005, 15:02
I think this thread serves as a good a lesson in humility and not to quickly pass judgement on someone distressed. Please look at Poli's initial wording of the questionI tattooed two japanese hieroglyphs, which I saw from an engraving by Kitagava Utamaro.My questions for people who went on putting down all the 'thoughtless people' who put 'mindless phrases' on their bodies that will stay there 'forever.'
1. The idea of "Poli without even thinking straight, accidentally hitting upon the famed artist Kitagawa Utamaro's signature, without the slightest help of kanji knowledge" What is an honest chance of that happening ?
The fact that he did it without all the fancy references available to us can be only explained by artistic intuition. This tells us that he had studied the artist's work very thoroughy to be able to appreciate the various features of his artworks. In one guess, he got to the artist's signature. Does he still sound like an ignorant guy with the slightest idea what he is doing ?
(Sorry Poli, I'm just arguing with the less sophisticated membership.)
2. Now I know little about Bulgarian social interaction, but I would assume that downplaying one's achievement or pretending a little bit of self-humiliation is part of the common interpersonal protocol there. To read everything that Poli said literally would be to exhibit one's ignorance or cultural insensitivity. Now how did I say that being ignorant myself ? Without ever having studied Bulgarian history or sociology ? I could do it because it's common courtesy. *does a symbolic smack on the forehead*
3. Contrary to common belief, not all tattoos stay forever. There are erasable tattoos, shallow tattoos, and laser theraphy to erase an unwanted tattoo. So I think it is wrong to blindly accuse a tattooed person on ground of permanance. The surgery might be rather expensive, but maybe he's married to one laser surgeon, or has very extensive health coverage, or simply stinking rich. :)
O, well, I feel relieved after ranting out on some of you who I think did Poli wrong with your callous remarks. The other reasonings not directly concerning Poli was good I think nevertheless. Do carry on, fellow forumers ! :wave:
Kara_Nari
Jun 15, 2005, 19:14
I once knew a girl who got the kanji for what she thought said 'naughty' tattooed on her hip bone, quite close to where naughty things happen. Anyway she would prance around and show it off at times, only to be laughed at by a group of Japanese and Chinese who told her it said disgusting!
TwistedMac
Jun 16, 2005, 01:13
I think you are doing to others what you didn't like they did to Poli, Lexico.
adressing your first point)
the fact that he is not 100% certain, yet still goes and gets the tattoo before making sure voids any redeeming qualities based on successful research. Obviously he didn't know enough, or he wouldn't have posted the question at all.
Also, he never said he wanted the artist's signature. he said he got it off an engraving the artist had made.
What if he hadn't wanted someone else's name printed on his body?
adressing point number 2)
Even if he did downplay his own abilities, it doesn't erase the fact that he wasn't 100% certain. The self inflicted pwn3d stays.
adressing point number 3)
He was lucky. the tattoo is damned fine caligraphy (but he could tell that since the first time he saw it of course), and the message was what he wanted.
But removal surgery is not something to be trifled with. Judging by the redness around the tattoo, it's not one of those that goes away, it's the real thing.
And laser surgery? ever seen anyone that has gotten that? they leave huge scars.
Money? the tattoo alone is a big wad of cash, and the laser surgery is good amount aswell... just because you're loaded doesn't mean you'll want to lose all that cash just because you couldn't wait two days to ask someone what it meant first. It's still stupid.
in conclusion, he got a mighty fine tattoo with something that he'll proudly be able to show to people that understand it aswell as people that just appriciate it for the artistic value, but the heckeling stays, for the decision to have it made before making sure was still unbelievably dumb.
lexico
Jun 16, 2005, 03:14
I think you are doing to others what you didn't like they did to Poli.Your point is well taken, however, you are excercising hypocricy unless you can explain how that makes negative criticism okay while countering it is not.adressing your first point)
the fact that he is not 100% certain, yet ...Artistic judgements are beyond your criticism. It's called poetic license. He did his research beyond what you can possibly imagine. As for the signature, in fact that's what he wanted; therefore you can safely stay your jumping judgements.point 2)...Repetitive, and empty; already covered in 1.point 3)...Fair enough; it can go either way. But again, it's a personal decision a criticism of which is best kept to the critic's self.in conclusion, he got a mighty fine tattoo with something that he'll proudly be able to show to people that understand it aswell as people that just appriciate it for the artistic value, but the heckeling stays, for the decision to have it made before making sure was still unbelievably dumb.Your condescending language is highly objectionable. You don't go around ridiculing a member with such words. Please reserve your debasing vocabulary to yourself.
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