Morning Musume

[moyashi]

2 more members will be graduating from Morning Musume this year.

Goto Maki and Yaguchi.

As many of you know, I'm not a mo-musume fan, but still interesting that Tsunku decide to make 2 of the girls leave the group.

The previous member (sorry forgot her name) graduated about 2 years ago and has been on and off doing solo acts or appearing on TV.

I wonder if Tsunku has something up his sleeve?

[Scott]

I just downloaded a video of the little ceremony thing. All the members looked so sad and were crying and making little speeches in Japanese. Except, I think it was Maki Goto and Kei Yasuda, not Maki Goto and Mari Yaguchi =/ I may be wrong. Maki Goto was definetly one of the most popular members of the group. I don't know how well Morning Musume will do after Maki's leaving. However, Tsunku probably has something up his sleeve like you mentioned. Maki is set to pursue her solo career. She has just released a brand new single called "IT'S EASY!". Good luck Maki! BTW, I think you just might be talking about Yuko Nakazawa as the member who graduated 2 years before. Not quite sure though. She was the oldest member of the group, and the leader when Morning Musume first debuted.

[Scott]

Okay. I've been researching around because I wanted to get to the bottom of this and find out the real info with all the rumors circulating. I found out that after a day of speculations, Tsunku finally has carried out an official notice. Tsunku says that with a Hello! Project of 44 members total, it was difficult to maintain in the market. Maki Goto left Morning Musume to follow a solo career within the Hello! Project. She will officially begin this the 23 of September, which is her birthday. Kei Yasuda left Morning Musume and she becomes the second to fully leave the Hello! Project next to Yuko Nakazawa. Kei will be dedicated to participate in TV dramas and musical comedies as of this spring. The 27 of September will be their goodbye concert (it's already been sold out). Mari Yaguchi left MiniMoni to form a new group. Apparently she was tired of the childish role she had to play, and annoyed by the immature behavior of Ai and Nono. Mika Todd will be the leader of the new Minimoni and Ai Takahashi will enter as well. Without Maki and Kei, Pucchimoni will consist of Hitomi, Ayaka (of Coconuts Musume) and Makoto. Mari, Kaori and Ai left Tanpopo. In their place will be Risa, Asami and Ayumi Shibata (from Melon Kinenbi). Finally, it seems to be that Heike Michiyo will graduate from the Hello! Project soon, to follow her solo career. For more information (in Japanese): http://morningmusume.dream.com/news/hellopro.html

[Scott]

I forgot to add that in my opinion with all these MAJOR changes to Hello! Project, Tsunku has to DEFINETLY have something up his sleeve. I'll be expecting more major changes and addtions soon..

[moyashi]

ooops, my mistake. I was like a bit tired when I posted that.

It was another member.

sorry

Tsunku is producing something like 41 groups and 108 members including Ayumi Hamazaki and a few other non-musume acts.

Thanks for correcting me :)

[Scott]

Very interesting.

[StorDuff]

I saw a video with them and the Iron Chef commentator doing cooking (I'm a pretty big Iron Chef fan too..) and was wondering what it was. I did a search for it and found CD's, etc....but this was a video, and I saw a few others listed but did not watch them. If anyone has heard of them, what is it? A band, TV show...?

Thanks

:bow:

[thomas]

I stumbled across this forum a while ago, they should be able to answer ALL of your MM-related questions

=> http://www.mm-bbs.com

:)

http://mcel.pacificu.edu/as/students/Jpop/img/morning%20musume.jpg

[Haivart]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by StorDuff
[B]I saw a video with them and the Iron Chef commentator doing cooking (I'm a pretty big Iron Chef fan too..)

:wave: Hi there fellow IC fan!

[StorDuff]

Thought your name looked familiar...for the record: I'm not looking to steal episodes, but FoodTV's two a week is so little (Even resorted to watching very good looking women cook in a non-kitchen stadium setting!!)

[Haivart]

I guess it's unique-- who else goes around with an Armenian name. As I said, FujiTV sells some highlight tapes, but that's all I know. Which night haven't you been getting? Sunday? There have been marathons on Sunday lately. (Yes, I'll be quiet now):bow:

[StorDuff]

Highlight tapes...

I think I saw those along with books, but it doesn't show the full episode. I get both days (Friday and Saturday) but 2 episodes per 7 days isn't enough :)

[psj0930]

I love the morning musumes,,,
"Musume" means "daughers" in japanese, right?
I possess most of their music by downloading MP3s.

They are the favorite ones in korea, too.
So cute!

[Musashi]

Morning Musume is a money machine designed to bring back life in the minds of tired salarymen for other reasons than why they sing silly songs, that's for them to make money on albums, not on TV, by seducing Japanese kids.

[MuZ]

I like Morning Musume. :p

Yeah, Tsunku does throw out loads of stuff by them and the Hello! Project but I don't care if it is a money making scheme I like :D

[tasuki]

To everyone,

Just out of curiosity (I'm not trying to be patronizing in the least... seriously), but just how much of their lyrics do you understand?

[Mandylion]

Far more than is probably healthy.

[MuZ]

Well me personally I can't understand very much of the lyrics at all but I have read the translated lyrics for a few of their songs. :D

[tasuki]

Mandylion
Good one! :cool:

Muz
And it doesn't make you want to retch? I personally can't abide Morning Musme. How many are there of them now? 12? More? I lost count... They couldn't sing for naught individually (as all the "graduates" of the group have proved until now, having all slipped back into anonymity) and they are ubnoxiously everywhere . Their first few hits were catchy and could be thought cute if you kept in mind that they'd be gone in 6 months, but, to me, it got old really, really fast.

[MuZ]

I honestly like their songs :)

There are 15 members now.

[tasuki]

Even though you don't get the lyrics? (Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to be patronizing in any way). Reminds me of me before I came here... I used to flip for Hayashibara Megumi songs... Now, I prefer Oda Kazumasa, Spitz, or even Chage and Aska. The lyrics have a bit more depth. Anyway, to each his/her own, eh? I was just curious.

[MuZ]

heh, I'm not taking offence. Quite a few people I know find my love for J-pop to be confusing for them :p

[tasuki]

Mine confused quite a few people as well. They could not understand how I could like the stuff on sound alone... I trried to make them understand that it's the same as when you listen to an opera in Italian and you don't get Italian... It's funny how many of my friends couldn't bridge the gap between the two, the musical styles being so different...

[Malayboy]

ouh....!so many morning musume fan....uhuhu!

[Keiichi]

I like some Momusu songs. The songs itself are kind of senseless, but cute. The Minimoni ones sound even more senseless...
As for the HP, I mostly like Ayaya's stuff right now. :p

[MuZ]

Heh, I never really liked Aya's music until I heard Good bye Natsuo, I really like that song.

[appl_tart]

hey i was just tlkin to my friend whos obsessed with them but he mentioned loooaaaads of ppl i hadnt heard of..

how many ppl are there in morning musume atm?
and can u name them?
how old r they??

im gettin v v v confused bout the whole hello project thing

[Porl]

I've never heard of them.. but if you go here i think it shows all the peeps in the group.. there are alot of them. wowzers! funky pictures of them all riding different animals. hehe

morning_musume (http://morningmusume.dream.com/)

the site is in japanese though.

Porl''

[Keiichi]

I'm not sure of any good ones. I guess you can try:
http://momusu.hellominna.com/ and go to profiles.

[Lo~ki]

I believe there are 15 at the moment. Can't name them though.
There was 5, then 8, then 13, and the last I heard it had climbed to 15.
And I believe the ages range from 13 through to 21 or there abouts.

[okaeri_man]

i liked it better when there were 13 ppl in morning musume. 15's such a bad number. what i want to know is why do they keep changing the band members?!? im sure ppl would cope if the girls grew older and their ages ranged from 17-25 instead of 13-21. its not as if they can keep replacing them and replacing them and still keep them popular for another 100 years - or can they...

[Ewok85]

Some of them "graduate" and move on and make their own groups or go solo, so they bring in new people. Think of it like a progressive pop group ;)

[Meiji Lythtis]

hehe... i'm late and not sure if someone is gonna read this after a lot of time... but I do know the answer:

They began being just 5:
(1st generation)

Yuko Nakazawa
Kaori Iida
Natsumi Abe
Aya Ishiguro
Asuka Fukuda

later... 3 were added:
(2nd generation)

Mari Yaguchi
Kei Yasuda
Sayaka Ichii

after this, Asuka left the group, and just 1 was added:
(3rd generation)

Maki Goto ( Maki FOREVER !!! )

later... 4 else were added:
(4th generation)

Rika Ishikawa
Hitomi Yoshizawa
Nozomi Tsuji
Ai Kago

after this, Sayaka and Yuko left... and other 4 were added:
(5th generation)

Makoto Ogawa
Risa Niigaki
Ai Takahashi
Asami Konno

and finally... Maki left :( and also Kei Yasuda... but other 4... u know...
(6th generation)

Miki Fujimoto
Reina Tanaka
Eri Kamei
Sayumi Michishige
...............

Rite know, they are 15 :D but Natsumi Abe will leave this January :( and they will be 14 .... weeeeeeeeee !!!!!!

Hope this answer ur question :happy:

and remember...

Maki Forever !!! :D

[sab0y]

i lyk morning musume but i only lyk some songs i lyk maki goto the best she super cute hehe i lyk the best were alive maki`s super duper cute in that mv and also love revolution

[Keiichi]

Unfortunetly, Maki's not part of Morning Musume anymore. :\

[Meiji Lythtis]

:( ... so sad :( keiichi...

but still...

Maki Forever !!! :D

[Old School]

Morning Musume are a cheap copy of Onyanko Club. Just about everything was copied: multiple rotating membership; splinter groups; TV show; even the token half-Japanese girl. It's been done before, only bigger and better. Onyanko Club had no less than 19 members at any given time and had a total of 50 members. Been there, done that.

[Keiichi]

Oh well.

[Meiji Lythtis]

Originally posted by Old School
Morning Musume are a cheap copy of Onyanko Club. Just about everything was copied: multiple rotating membership; splinter groups; TV show; even the token half-Japanese girl. It's been done before, only bigger and better. Onyanko Club had no less than 19 members at any given time and had a total of 50 members. Been there, done that.

Morning Musume rules and dat's all !!! :)

[Old School]

Originally posted by Meiji Lythtis
Morning Musume rules and dat's all !!! :)

Ummm, no. Morning Musume are cheap Onyanko Club rip offs and that's that. Nothing original about them kid.

[M10]

at least one thousand...
heh but they all are kawaii ^^

the last time I saw Morning Musume (something like a New Years Show.. NHK) there was at least 10 girls... :o

[Keiichi]

Originally posted by Old School
Ummm, no. Morning Musume are cheap Onyanko Club rip offs and that's that. Nothing original about them kid.
So you're saying people should only like originals...
Well I'm sure there are things that are "new and creative" in Morning Musume that Onyanko didn't have. I don't know what since I don't know anything about Onyanko.
But yeah, as Meiji said,
Morning Musume rules and dat's all !!! :)
Oh yeah, and
Maki Forever !!! :D

:beer:

[Old School]

Originally posted by Keiichi
So you're saying people should only like originals...


You can like whatever you want to. You can like cheap copies if you want. Whatever floats your boat. I'm just pointing out to all the come-latelys that it's been done before since most come-latelys don't seem to know anything past 4 years ago. I get tired of people who have only gotten into J-pop for the past few years and think they know all about it. Reminds of a line from a Rolling Stones song:

I sit and watch the children play
Doing things I used to do
They think are new

Originally posted by Keiichi

Well I'm sure there are things that are "new and creative" in Morning Musume that Onyanko didn't have.

Such as? Let's hear some examples. I pointed out just a few (albeit very significant) things that MM have copied from Onyanko Club. They even copied the "graduation" thing. Ptooey! The only thing Onyanko didn't have is the pedophilia factor. 12 year old MM members???!! Defend that.

The prosecution rests.

[hayashi]

First of all, even if MM "copy" certain characteristics of Onyanko, why is that bad? Virtually every musical act, artist, or singer derives his, her or its style from someone else. Who can claim to be truly original?

"Pedophilia" is pretty strong, IMO. I can only speak for myself but I enjoy listening to MM music and watching MM videos but I don't find them sexually arousing. If you don't like MM, that's fine. To each his own. But what distinguishes them for most fans is their music, which is the best JPOP has to offer.

(How was that for a first post?) ;-)

[Old School]

Originally posted by hayashi
First of all, even if MM "copy" certain characteristics of Onyanko, why is that bad? Virtually every musical act, artist, or singer derives his, her or its style from someone else. Who can claim to be truly original?

"Pedophilia" is pretty strong, IMO. I can only speak for myself but I enjoy listening to MM music and watching MM videos but I don't find them sexually arousing. If you don't like MM, that's fine. To each his own. But what distinguishes them for most fans is their music, which is the best JPOP has to offer.

(How was that for a first post?) ;-)

Did I say anything about musical style? No, I was talking about number of members, group arrangement, splinter groups, and the TV show. NOT their musical style.

I also mentioned that people can like what they want to, but I guess you read only what you want to read.

It would help if you READ and UNDERSTOOD what I posted before commenting.

And let's see, 12 year old girls shaking their butts in front of the cameras - I stand by my pedophilia remark. You might not find them sexually arousing but I have heard others remark so. The prosecution still stands.

And as for Morning Musume being the "best" that JPop can offer - a lot of people will argue with you to the death on that point.

Your first post leaves a lot to be desired. Lots of holes and off-base. Try again kid.

[hayashi]

Originally posted by Old School
Did I say anything about musical style? No, I was talking about number of members, group arrangement, splinter groups, and the TV show. NOT their musical style.

I know what you were talking about. I just don't think the fact that they copied something detracts from their music, whether it's style, costumes, number of members, graduations, etc.

Originally posted by Old School
And let's see, 12 year old girls shaking their butts in front of the cameras - I stand by my pedophilia remark. You might not find them sexually arousing but I have heard others remark so. The prosecution still stands.

Since I don't know all the MM fans in the world, I can't say if you're right or wrong on this one. My guess is that most of their fans aren't pedophiles.

Originally posted by Old School
And as for Morning Musume being the "best" that JPop can offer - a lot of people will argue with you to the death on that point.

Like they say, you can't argue taste. One person's gold is another person's garbage.

[Meiji Lythtis]

Originally posted by Old School
Did I say anything about musical style? No, I was talking about number of members, group arrangement, splinter groups, and the TV show. NOT their musical style.

I also mentioned that people can like what they want to, but I guess you read only what you want to read.

It would help if you READ and UNDERSTOOD what I posted before commenting.
No my friend, u r the one that have to read everything before answer coz u didn't read or u did not understand... u said MM r copies, if u think dat it's ok, but what hayashi said (btw, welcome to the forum hehe) is and i agree: Every group, singer, band, etc, derives their style from another one... so, there rn't any totally original nowadays, and if u call copy to Morning Musume, u must say the same to every group,singer, etc... remember, u said it:

I sit and watch the children play
Doing things I used to do
They think are new

Originally posted by Old School
And let's see, 12 year old girls shaking their butts in front of the cameras - I stand by my pedophilia remark. You might not find them sexually arousing but I have heard others remark so. The prosecution still stands.

And as for Morning Musume being the "best" that JPop can offer - a lot of people will argue with you to the death on that point.

Your first post leaves a lot to be desired. Lots of holes and off-base. Try again kid.
i do know MM fans from all over the world, and i haven't known anyone with pedophile... and i'm not pedophile, r u? those other ppl that remark that, r they MM fans?... and why a lot of ppl will argue if i said that MM the BEST that JPop can offer? ... i know it's not true, there r a lot of stuffs JPop can offer, but also for me MM is one of the best, and u can do nothing to change that, and if ppl argue is not my problem, they can say whatever they want as i do...

[Ami]

What's so good about Morning Musume eh? and why are there SO MANY OF THEM! aahhhh! :mad:
http://japan-music.net/morning_musume/ai/ai.wall002.jpg < That one got to have a date with Gackt too.. O_O
http://japan-music.net/morning_musume/nozomi/nono.wall002.jpg O_O or was it that one?
whoa... I can't tell them apart! nooo.... they book look a-like! ahhhh... *hugs me mini-moose* :emblaugh:

Don't get me wrong here, I have nothing against them. :wave:

[Keiichi]

Originally posted by Ami whoa... I can't tell them apart! nooo.... they book look a-like! ahhhh... *hugs me mini-moose* :emblaugh:That's because they're the same person. :p

[hayashi]

Originally posted by Ami
What's so good about Morning Musume eh?

The music, the dancing, the cute girls, and they're FUN!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Ami
and why are there SO MANY OF THEM! aahhhh! :mad:

There should be MORE of them!!!! There aren't enough!!! More musume!!!

:clap:

[Ami]

LOL they're the same? I dunno thats not what the Gallery said where I found it. Anywho, alright Moring Musume ROCKS! weee I'm a supporter now! :happy: What's their best song so I can get into their music?

[Keiichi]

Well, 'best' is a personal opinion. How about try checking out their latest one, Ai Araba It's All Right! Or maybe some real early ones like Love Machine.

[Meiji Lythtis]

Good Keiichi... tell him to listen Love Machine and he'll love Maki too :D ... we'll be more Maki Fans Yeaaaaah!!!

i personally listened Koi no Dance Site the First... it's also good

[Keiichi]

Renai Revolution 21 PV has a lot of Maki. I enjoyed watching that. :D
I like the PV for Souda! We're Alive also. Maki dancing in high heels. :)

[hayashi]

Originally posted by Ami
alright Moring Musume ROCKS! weee I'm a supporter now! :happy: What's their best song so I can get into their music?

You'll get different answers from different people. My favorites fast songs are: "Koko ni iruzee" and "Renai Revolution 21". For slower songs, try "I Wish" "Do It Now" or "Morning Coffee" (an oldie but goodie). Better yet, just buy a "best of" album and you can get most of the singles on one disc.

[Old School]

Originally posted by Meiji Lythtis
No my friend, u r the one that have to read everything before answer coz u didn't read or u did not understand... u said MM r copies, if u think dat it's ok, but what hayashi said (btw, welcome to the forum hehe) is and i agree: Every group, singer, band, etc, derives their style from another one... so, there rn't any totally original nowadays, and if u call copy to Morning Musume, u must say the same to every group,singer, etc...

Ok genius, name one Japanese pop group that had the same formula as Onyanko Club before them. I'm talking about Morning Musume and Onyanko Club here, not "every group, singer, etc." It's been a month since I asked the question and still nobody has named anything "new and creative" that MM has done. The fact remains that Morning Musume copied the Onyanko Club formula and you come-latelys are too ignorant to know the difference. Yeah, I can call you a come-lately because I've been listening to Japanese Pop for over 20 years, probably longer than you've been alive. And SEEN more live Japanese pop concerts than you have (in Japan, not Puffy live in the US).

Originally posted by Meiji Lythtis
i do know MM fans from all over the world, and i haven't known anyone with pedophile... and i'm not pedophile, r u? those other ppl that remark that, r they MM fans?

Yes, I've actually heard self-proclaimed Morning Musume fans describing in graphic detail what they would do sexually to the younger MM members. These are people with homemade MM shirts, carrying MM CDs and won't shut-up about them. They may not have pedophilic experience but certainly have the thoughts. I never said anything about them being actual pedophiles. READ and UNDERSTAND my posts dammit!

Originally posted by Meiji Lythtis
and why a lot of ppl will argue if i said that MM the BEST that JPop can offer? ... i know it's not true, there r a lot of stuffs JPop can offer, but also for me MM is one of the best, and u can do nothing to change that, and if ppl argue is not my problem, they can say whatever they want as i do...

There are Ayu and Hikki fans that would argue with you that their idols are the best that JPop has to offer and not MM. As I said before (but can't get into your thick head) is that people can like whatever they want. There, I said it for the THIRD TIME!

And this is a public forum, we're here to discuss and yes - ARGUE! Your debating skills have a long way to go and your statements would have more credibility if your grammar and spelling skills were at least decent. This is a discussion forum, not text messaging.

Now go wank off to your MM pics and your transvestite JRockers.

PS - I'm NOT your friend.

[PieRia]

MoRNiNg MuSuMe PoWa!! ok? :P

they are the simply the best.. and all the hello project!! aya matsuura ;) its so cute too!! ^^

morning is not a copy of nothing, they are the best j-pop group and have a nice coreographies too! :happy:

bYebYe!! ^^

[hayashi]

Originally posted by Old School
It's been a month since I asked the question and still nobody has named anything "new and creative" that MM has done. The fact remains that Morning Musume copied the Onyanko Club formula and you come-latelys are too ignorant to know the difference.

I'm not going to agree or argue with you about the MM/Onyanko similarities, primarily because I've never heard of Onyanko before seeing them referred to in your posts (call me a "come-lately" if you will). Even if what you are saying is right, I would answer it with a big "SO WHAT?"

Copies aren't bad just because they're copies.

Look at The Monkees. They were designed to be American copies of The Beatles. That doesn't mean there's nothing to like about The Monkees. They had some good songs and personalities and developed their own fan base. It's not fair to call their fans "ignorant" just because they liked a group that was modeled after The Beatles.

If you only like music that's "new and creative," I guess you're not a Hikki or an Ayu fan either, since you can hear music just like theirs on any American radio station. Most people, though, don't decide how much they like something on how "new and creative" it is. They just go by what sounds (and, in the video age, looks) good.

[Keiichi]

Originally posted by Old School
Ok genius, name one Japanese pop group that had the same formula as Onyanko Club before them. I'm talking about Morning Musume and Onyanko Club here, not "every group, singer, etc." It's been a month since I asked the question and still nobody has named anything "new and creative" that MM has done. The fact remains that Morning Musume copied the Onyanko Club formula and you come-latelys are too ignorant to know the difference. Yeah, I can call you a come-lately because I've been listening to Japanese Pop for over 20 years, probably longer than you've been alive. And SEEN more live Japanese pop concerts than you have (in Japan, not Puffy live in the US).
It's not that we don't know the difference. We just don't know the Onyanko Club. One thing is that MM is lasting longer than OC did, and it is still here now. MM graduates such as Natsumi Abe, who's been with MM for the last six years, touched the hearts of many, even to fans less than for half a year. You can like your old and past things, like Elvis or whatever, when you weren't that old (that's for calling us ignorant), and we'll like ours, while it's here, original or not. Then later when we're old, we can bother the next third generation about how great our old artists were while they don't give a rat about what we say. :)

Oh yeah, and MM rules. Maki rules! :D

[Eternal Wind]

Any pics of MAKI??

[hayashi]

Originally posted by Eternal Wind
Any pics of MAKI??

Lots of them. Start here: http://www.gocchin.com/

[Old School]

Originally posted by hayashi
I'm not going to agree or argue with you about the MM/Onyanko similarities, primarily because I've never heard of Onyanko before seeing them referred to in your posts


That was my whole point. I didn't say they were bad, just that they're not original. Do you get it now? You're a JPop fan and you've never heard of Onyanko Club? Look up "ignorant" again.

Originally posted by hayashi
Copies aren't bad just because they're copies.


The bootleggers will LOVE you!

Originally posted by hayashi
Look at The Monkees. They were designed to be American copies of The Beatles. That doesn't mean there's nothing to like about The Monkees. They had some good songs and personalities and developed their own fan base. It's not fair to call their fans "ignorant" just because they liked a group that was modeled after The Beatles.

Hmmm... more ignorance. The fans were ignorant because the Monkees did not play their own instruments! They were syncing to recordings made by studio musicians. The Beatles, on the other hand played their own instruments and wrote their own songs. Although, to give credit where it's due, Michael Nesmith did write Linda Ronstadt's (you've heard of her, right?) first single "Different Drum."

Originally posted by hayashi
If you only like music that's "new and creative," I guess you're not a Hikki or an Ayu fan either, since you can hear music just like theirs on any American radio station. Most people, though, don't decide how much they like something on how "new and creative" it is. They just go by what sounds (and, in the video age, looks) good.

Now, where did you get the impression that I only liked music that was "new and creative"? Did I say that? Your lack of comprehension amazes me. You're right about one thing though, I'm not a fan of Ayu or Hikki. Their voices annoy me.

Now stop embarassing yourself. Quit while you're behind.

[Old School]

Originally posted by Keiichi
It's not that we don't know the difference. We just don't know the Onyanko Club.

A JPop fan and you don't know Onyanko Club either? You should go look up the definition of "ignorant" with Hayashi.

Originally posted by Keiichi
One thing is that MM is lasting longer than OC did, and it is still here now.

Onyanko Club are Japanese icons, like Seiko and Akina. Morning Musume's 15 minutes are just about over. Then they'll be forgotten just like Max (remember them?).

Originally posted by Keiichi
You can like your old and past things, like Elvis or whatever, when you weren't that old (that's for calling us ignorant), and we'll like ours, while it's here, original or not.

Now, did I say I only like old things? Where did I say that? You assume much kid. You have strong competition from Hayashi for "King of Lack of Comprehension"

Another failed attempt to flame me. Sad, really.

[Timsan]

Old School you are the most pathetic ethug/nerd I have ever come acrossed in my life. Your some American debating over the legitimacy of some fking pop group in Japan of whom you have no relation other then envy and obsession? God you need to get a life or some help man.


"oOoOo I know everything about some Japanese pop group because I wish I was Japanese and knowing everything about them will make me Japanese and cool."

Sorry but your not winning anything here your just losing at life.

[Keiichi]

Man, Old School, you gotta relax more. :eek: You're actually the one flaming. And you're personally attacking us by calling us ignorant for like the 20th time, calling me a kid, etc. And you're provoking and insulting us with lines like "The bootleggers will LOVE you!," "Now stop embarassing yourself. Quit while you're behind." That's not even a clean argument and not worth participating in either. I don't take what you're saying half as serious as you probably do or what me to. :sick:

[Old School]

Originally posted by Timsan
Old School you are the most pathetic ethug/nerd I have ever come acrossed in my life. Your some American debating over the legitimacy of some fking pop group in Japan of whom you have no relation other then envy and obsession? God you need to get a life or some help man.


"oOoOo I know everything about some Japanese pop group because I wish I was Japanese and knowing everything about them will make me Japanese and cool."

Sorry but your not winning anything here your just losing at life.

Wow, now you probably feel much better about yourself trying to put me down in turn, right ("ethugging" me back?)? Did I every in any way try ever to present myself as wanting to be Japanese? You also assume too much.

I replied to the posts towards me point for point and pointed out what people misunderstood about my posts. It's not my fault that some people here can't seem to understand simple English.

And by the way, you should never refer to yourself in the honoriffic "san" - it's considered rude and arrogant. It's something people learn in their first week of Japanese class. Ignorance again...

[Old School]

Originally posted by Keiichi
Man, Old School, you gotta relax more. :eek: You're actually the one flaming. And you're personally attacking us by calling us ignorant for like the 20th time, calling me a kid, etc. And you're provoking and insulting us with lines like "The bootleggers will LOVE you!," "Now stop embarassing yourself. Quit while you're behind." That's not even a clean argument and not worth participating in either. I don't take what you're saying half as serious as you probably do or what me to. :sick:

Ok I've calmed down. And you're actually right, some of what I've said was uncalled for. Apologies to you, Hayashi and Meiji. But I stick by my points (people, please read carefully before responding!). I guess it got way out of hand. If people would just take what I said at face value and not put words in my mouth, I wouldn't explode like this.

[Eternal Wind]

great site Hayashi!!thanks:)

[Timsan]

Originally posted by Old School
Wow, now you probably feel much better about yourself trying to put me down in turn, right ("ethugging" me back?)? Did I every in any way try ever to present myself as wanting to be Japanese? You also assume too much.

I replied to the posts towards me point for point and pointed out what people misunderstood about my posts. It's not my fault that some people here can't seem to understand simple English.

And by the way, you should never refer to yourself in the honoriffic "san" - it's considered rude and arrogant. It's something people learn in their first week of Japanese class. Ignorance again...



Again, no one cares. I live in America, I speak English, I dont give a f*** whats considered rude in Japan, you arent Japanese so neither should you. As for my earlier claims, you are arguing about something that doesn't matter. Your putting all this energy into arguing about "jpop" an industry that isnt even native to your country when you should be worrying about other things like attaining a social life.

[Meiji Lythtis]

Originally posted by Old School
Ok I've calmed down. And you're actually right, some of what I've said was uncalled for. Apologies to you, Hayashi and Meiji. But I stick by my points (people, please read carefully before responding!). I guess it got way out of hand. If people would just take what I said at face value and not put words in my mouth, I wouldn't explode like this.

Oh, you can hold your point, but please don't argue anymore because we can also explode, we hadn't coz we are all Morning Musume fans you know... personally i first thought you were just an embittered and repressed guy and I just laughed of everything you said, later i realized you were much older than us but it did not matter. Anyway, just one thing more:

Originally posted by Old School
your statements would have more credibility if your grammar and spelling skills were at least decent.

please, first notice that i'm not an english native speaker

PS - Apologies accepted, Cheer Up! :valentine

[Meiji Lythtis]

Lots of them. Start here: http://www.gocchin.com/

dat site is nice, i didn't used to visit it a lot... but i'll do it from now on :D

[Keiichi]

Hey Meiji, long time no see. :)

Hey, I remember something about Maki coming to Hawaii for a fanclub tour this month. Hmm... I don't hear much about it now. I wonder.

[Meiji Lythtis]

Hi Keiichi, long time no see :) ... yeah i remember i read something like that, let me see if i can find some information since you live in Hawaii, maybe you might be able to meet her and get an autograph... if you do please get one for me too
:D

[Keiichi]

No problem. :D Pictures and autographs if possible. :D

[Meiji Lythtis]

I envy you... I wish she came to my country, but I bet the world will get frozen before she comes... :( so... Keiichi!!! Take as much advantage as you can from this visit!!! and don't forget my autograph plz :D ...

of course, only if you are able to meet her :happy: ... tell her: "you have a worshipper in Mexico, plz sign an autograph to him"
:p

and remember...

Maki Forever !!!

[Dutch Baka]

hello everybody

i dont understand japanese sometimes, but i think when your not japanse, you can never understand them 100%.

what i dont understand is that the group morning musume,,, girls from 14 till 19 or something isnt? when you see the audiance they have, there all old guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i dont think this guys come for listen to there music, because thats crap.....

isnt it a bit hentai? guys from 35-40 that watch girls from that age? or am i wrong in that?

http://www.akiramishima.de/Bilder/morning_musume/mm_front.jpg

[TwistedMac]

I dunno.. when I've seen the audience they've always been 14 year old girls...
And from what I've heaard from teh few Japanese I've talked to about it, that's about the audience they have... the little girls...


Some of the older chicks are pretty hot tho... I'd do 'em.

hehe, check out the girl on the far left.. she's wearing that thing like a bib.

[Sally_Hawn]

The younger the better, softer skin, brighter eyes and shinnier hair.

[okaeri_man]

Some of the older chicks are pretty hot tho... I'd do 'em.some of them??! more like all of them! *cough*

i don't mind a bit of morning musume. i would go to their show if i had the chance.

[TwistedMac]

dude, some are like 13.. I can't say publically I'd do them!...

I mean.. I'd never even think that... hehe... hrm..

[Dutch Baka]

i think there is a differnece of 15-25 then 35-45.

in my country lot of things are posible, but if old guys (so many of them) go to concert.. that would be trouble haha.

but i must say yes, some of them look hot ( im 20 , not 45 :bluush: )

[mizerable_d]

i think alot of adult male japanese guys "perfer" underage girls so ya...^^;;;

[j0ylucky]

Never heard of these girls until I came here.. Why one earth are there so many of them? X__X

[-rika- shinya`]

:souka:...Tsunku couldn't resist..:D i think it's coz some girls graduate, then others come in, not sure about this :? the whole story in wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Musume

[Nana007]

Yea they are at like the seventh or 8th generation. There are also a lot of girls, who once was in the group, but graduated, but still perform on the label as a group. Two get a feel of just how big it its, here http://youtube.com/watch?v=DuYTqdeubLo

[j0ylucky]

Jesus christ. O___O THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM!!! *bonks a few of them out* It seems a bit excesive (sp?) to have THAT many girls singing.. >__<

[boobiebutt]

i never heard of them T_T but holy crap.....that is a lot of girls.......how do they all sing in the same song?! x_x doesnt it get confusing if they all sing together? i mean even if they take turns isnt the song like "cluttered" so to speak.

[Da Monstar]

mostly they only gather all of them for few songs. Also keep in mind that sometimes they leave MM or gets fired (like Ai Kago and Mari Yaguchi.... Damned!)

Most commonly the members of MM is divided into small subgroups who works for the Hello! Projects (H!P). And there is a lot of those groups each with their only silly name.

[Dutch Baka]

Not a fan, but just to give this thread a boost!
MM is back on the top with there new number one single :

ARUITERU- MORNING MUSUME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiqkJNtJ6Bo)

[furan]

*cackles* i just borrowed a whole load of their CDs from my friend... i love them XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

but i think i preffer MiniMoni... cos they're just insane XD

[Nana007]

Well they have also had a boost with Koharu as well her single Balalaika was in the top ten a few weeks ago.

[hayashi]

I'm older than most MM fans and I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I like them. They're kind of what I'd have to call a "guilty pleasure." Yeah, they are cute, but if that's all they were I wouldn't bother buying the CDs, I'd just download the photos. Plus, there are loads of cute JPOP singers out there whose music I don't buy because I don't like their music.

MM was one of the first groups I listened to when I discovered JPOP a few years ago. I find that the music is very upbeat and great "feel good" music. It's great music to listen to early in the morning when you're trying to wake up.

Here's a funny story. A couple years ago, I was in Japan with my wife and we were talking to some people we had just met at lunch and one of the guys says he likes Japanese music and my wife blurts out that I listen to MM. I could have crawled under the table. Later, I explained to her that "outting" me as a MM fan was a little like telling everyone I listened to Britney Spears (which I don't... well, except for that one song).

[Nana007]

Well men who listen to morning musume are WOTAS. And they are like Otaku's.

[PSYCHdust]

Well men who listen to morning musume are WOTAS. And they are like Otaku's.

Seems like a grave generalization in my opinion.

Yes, it's true there are the perverts out there that go there cause they want the girls but there are a good amount of normal people at Morning Musume and Hello! Project concerts. They just aren't the ones getting the attention.

I'm male, and yes, I like a good amount of the girls in H!P but the main attraction has ALWAYS been Tsunku's amazing pop creations. And many people lose sight of that.

The girls are hardworking and people reacting to how many there are obviously haven't seen Onyanko Club or Bishoujo Club 31 (the former at one point had over 50 members, Hello! Project as a whole, not including the Eggs, doesn't even make 50.)

It's a lot like Evangelicalists. The crazy ones are what is shown to people as they're the ones that grab the most attention but there are certainly evangelicalists that live on moderation.

I'm crazy for Morning Musume but I don't think I'm particularly creepy about it. And anyways, I'm 18. Most of the girls are my age or older.

[furan]

i'm boosting this thread just to see who posts XDDD

and... actually hear what's going on about them?

god... i love them.. they are like... every single steriotype of jpop all rolled into one MASSIVE band XDDDD
their music is TERRIBLY up beet and just... so... 'candy' it's like... 3 year old girls in pink dresses and big bows and little puppy dogs licking their faces - that's what it's like XD

i love it... i love the whole cheese factore...

but i didn't know Tsunku produced/ managed (?) Amyumi Hamasaki... does he still? GOD he must be loaded... @.@

MM to some extent reminds me of the micky mouse club... when they actually bothered to get kids and make music...except there's no boys ^^;

[Nana007]

Well for News...Aika I think is the New 8th generation member.

A double tragedy for Yoshikawa as 1) they are graduating her and 2) Her younger brother just died in a car accident.

They are releasing their 8th album soon. And 2 New Singles one of which will be the 10th anniversary single...

Please dont ask me how I know this >.> <.<

[Amos]

I first saw morning musume on the very bizaar Mechaike Bakajo Kimatsu Test - although I had no idea who they were for sometime after until I was recounting the tale to a Japanese friend.

One thing that struck me was how much the girls get paid??? I can see that there must be a lot of money coming in, but as the producer probably takes off most of this and the fact there are so many girls in the group, that can't leave much to go around???

[hayashi]

Amos, they get paid plenty. They don't all get paid the same, but I think 40 million yen ($300,000 or so U.S.) each on average is in the ballpark. It's not Hamasaki money but it pays the rent.

[Amos]

Amos, they get paid plenty. They don't all get paid the same, but I think 40 million yen ($300,000 or so U.S.) each on average is in the ballpark. It's not Hamasaki money but it pays the rent.


I certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at $300k a year :D

Thanks Hayashi

[furan]

bloody hell Japan must have quite a wealth of ricj teens in the mix :relief:

thanks for the pudate Nana!!!
that's so sad about Aika's brother... i'm sure her and her fam are getting a lot of support from both friends and fans though ^.^

and looking forward to the new albums and singles! :D:D:D

omigod... does anyone know anything about this album Evil Morning????

it has songs on from Morning Musume, Mini Moni, Miki Fujimoto, Melon Kinenbi, Maki Goto, Country Musume, Aya Matsuura and a few others.... except... it's just the vocal line... the backing has been like... chnaged to like... Geramn metal or somthing... o.O

[Ayu-youkou]

Anyone knows if Ai Kago ever went solo?

I would love to hear her solo.

[PSYCHdust]

Evil Morning's a fan remix group thing. They remix H!P songs into the hard metal stuff. It's interesting.

And yeah, it's a big shame about Yossi. I mean, I could imagine her graduating on her own terms but now dealing with the loss of a brother. And she still goes through with the concerts, she's all kinds of awesome for that.

[Nana007]

Ai is still on suspension for the smoking thing...its going on 2 years now that she has been on suspension now? and does anyone know where I can get Evil Mornings mix.

[Ayu-youkou]

awww that's just not fair :(

Hope the suspension is over soon, she is a great add to the J-pop culture and it would be pity to lose her.

She will be 20 this year aight?

[furan]

lol
i've completely lost track of who's in MM atm... anyone care to give a little member's update? :relief:

[PSYCHdust]

....2 YEARS?

You people are on CRACK.

She like, just turned 18 last year and was put on suspension like, Feb of last year. Coincided right around her b-day actually.
Although she'll most likely be on suspension until she's 20.

:D

ALSO~
Members of MoMusu at this point:
Hitomi Yoshizawa (gone next May)
Ai Takahashi
Risa Niigaki
Miki Fujimoto
Sayumi Michishige
Eri Kamei
Reina Tanaka
Koharu Kusumi
Aika Mitsui

AND ANOTHER THING~

egao YES nude is good stuff. Really good stuff, beat's their 2006 single by far~

[Nana007]

I wasnt sure how long she was on suspension...I thought it was 2 years ok...nothing bad with getting a fact wrong.

[furan]

lol
thank you for the info~!!!!

i'll never rember any of it, but.. at least i know an easy place to find it! XD

[pipokun]

[QUOTE]モーニング娘。の第８期（留学生）メンバーといたしまして、
中国出身のジュンジュンこと 李 純（Li Chun）と、リンリンこと 銭 琳（Qian Lin）
を迎え入れることを決めましたので、
ここで報告させていただきます。

草々
２００７年３月吉日
モーニング娘。 プロデューサー つんく♂
http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/shinmember_0703151946.html

Pleased to inform that new members from China will join in Moring Musume.
JunJun from Hunan
LinLin from Hang zhou
Sincerely,
Tsunku, Producer of Morning Musume
[/QUOTE

[Matt_D]

Ai Kago has been released from contract for getting it on with a 37 year old on the cusp of her return to music. The scuttlebug says she never really wanted to come back.

The Chinese girls 'all be interesting, there was outrage on many a forum lol.

[Cue]

I doubt as to whether she never wanted to come back or not, but the fact is she got fire from her agency from being found "smoking" AGAIN in his car on their way back to Tokyo.
Stupid, Kago. I know there're tons of teenager smoking out there, but....

[Miyavi-Lover]

Can someone send me a song from W (double u) i cant download them anywhere :(

[ThiefRikku]

^.^ I Love them ^.^

Their songs, their dance, their voice **-** *muach* They're Great

Best songs -- Say Yeah !!, Kanashimi Twili, Joshi Kashimashi oops (forgot the last word xDD *n00b*)

[dra]

I like MORNING MUSUME <3
I 'm a big fan of Ai-chan ^^

[SushiShin]

Kamei Eri!!!!!!!! I really adore her ^^' i wish she was my girlfriend too ^^'

[Yaya-chan]

I like Reina and Sayumi in morning musume. They're soo cute! ><

[Tokis-Phoenix]

I have to say that i mostly like Morning Musume for their earlier music, although there's a few more recent songs of theirs that i like. I also preferred the look and youthful yet more mature look of the earlier generations- i think at times Hello milked the Morning Musume brand too much as time went by and this IMHO decreased the quality of some of their songs even though the large majority of songs kept on making it to 1, 2 or 2 in the charts etc.
Anyhoo i haven't listened to some of their recent stuff so i'm gonna right now, but here's some of my fav old school Morning Musume songs for now;

The song that created Morning Musume (Ai no Tane);

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrfVo_2b21c

Morning Coffee;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T6gGpXPOV4

Summer Night Town;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0YSUHe4Oo&NR=1

Love Machine;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwacTv-6DK4

And "Joshi Kashimashi Monogatari" (meaning 'The Story of Noisy Girls');

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aKBuEt-xj4

("Joshi Kashimashi Monogatari" is unique in comparison to other MM songs in that each girl sings a little about her own personality/character)

And so much more :cool: .
My taste in Japanese varies a lot, i like everything from Capsule (mostly their music contains elements of bossa nova, lounge, breakbeat, and most recently electronica), to RIP Slyme (Japanese hip hop), Yoshida Brothers (shamisen music) etc- Morning Musume is just another of my fav bands/groups, i like their music because i often find it uplifting and catchy :) .

Do you like Morning Musume? What are your thoughts/feelings on them :) ?

[Uncle Frank]

Already have a long thread on this group, just been pretty inactive I guess.

Uncle Frank

:blush:

[Mycernius]

And "Joshi Kashimashi Monogatari" (meaning 'The Story of Noisy Girls');
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aKBuEt-xj4
("Joshi Kashimashi Monogatari" is unique in comparison to other MM songs in that each girl sings a little about her own personality/character)
And so much more :cool: .
My taste in Japanese varies a lot, i like everything from Capsule (mostly their music contains elements of bossa nova, lounge, breakbeat, and most recently electronica), to RIP Slyme (Japanese hip hop), Yoshida Brothers (shamisen music) etc- Morning Musume is just another of my fav bands/groups, i like their music because i often find it uplifting and catchy :) .
Do you like Morning Musume? What are your thoughts/feelings on them :) ?
I found Joshi kashimashi monogatari whilst surfing Youtube recently. Catchy little number that sticks in your brain.
As for Morning Musume I find some of their tunes rattle my nerves, others I can give or take, and some are alright. It is not a band I will really go out and buy their CDs, but as light pop music it is okay.

[hayashi]

MoMusu's older music is better than the more recent, in my opinion. If you buy one of their "Best of" collections, you'll have everything you need.

[Tokis-Phoenix]

I found Joshi kashimashi monogatari whilst surfing Youtube recently. Catchy little number that sticks in your brain.
As for Morning Musume I find some of their tunes rattle my nerves, others I can give or take, and some are alright. It is not a band I will really go out and buy their CDs, but as light pop music it is okay.


Yeah i totally agree, some of MM's music is really to be honest pretty bad, but they have plenty enough gems in their history of music to keep me listening, so i would say that overall i like their music :cool: .

MoMusu's older music is better than the more recent, in my opinion. If you buy one of their "Best of" collections, you'll have everything you need.
Yeah i heard that the "Best of" collections are their best selling albums- its been awhile though since i checked out the latest and greatest of MM, does anyone know what their latest songs are called in English character Japanese?