Dir en grey

[haru_urara]

Sorry to barge in like britney spears, but I wanted to thank Nana007 for the link to the uncensored vid!!! ^^

[boobiebutt]

did anyone else find that pv entertaining and funny? -_-

[nekkyo]

Damn emo bands! Ear plugs! That's what I'll be using... industry grade ear plugs! -_-; Why can't Diru just play alone? Or how about other smaller jrock bands doing the opening acts?

@boobiebutt: I found the video very amusing... granted I can't comprehend a syllable of the lyrics... -_-;

[Nana007]

Random but If you wonder who is to blame for the video. Then you can partially blame Toshiya as it was his idea to have it be animated. Although I don't who thought of the concept.

[Precious4e]

^They'll have tour goods but I don't think they will have an autograph session.

Anyone check out Diru's OHP??

NEW ALBUM!!
THE MARROW OF A BONE
2/7/2007!!!!

I'll probably buy this one at the show (you think they'll have it?) instead of ordering it online....unless there is a limited edition release.

[pixy_false]

Hell yeah! Finally a new album! Isn't that the day of the Boston show?

[Anchyyy]

Woah new album!! Finally! :flower: :confetti::dance:

[Nana007]

Woot Woot. Now my Dilema is do I preorder it or buy it at the concert.

But I want a 1st press edition which they won't have at the shows probally.

[Reita-kun]

haha sometimes... lol but its not good to be cautious at times... it gets annoying.. ><

has anyone heard "AGITATED SCREAMS OF MAGGOTS" ??? i think i speled everything right... the first thing you hear is RRRRRRAAAAAWWWWWRRRRR!!! i think its funny...

[mikichan]

haha, impulsivness does to ... when u end up doing something that messes u up .....

its a good song .. i love his little rawrs ... and as wierd as it sounds, i think they're cute and funny! lol, it just adds to the wierdness that is kyo ...

[Reita-kun]

i'm not like that at all! haha...

yea i love the rawrs too ^^ makes me wanna jump ^^ it is cute and funny ^^ kyo is the best ^^

[Nana007]

My opinion is the song is Great. I love it. Kaoru's and Die's guitar is really good. Its like they are dueling with each other. Also Shinya wore the hell out of his drums especially the double kick bass. You really can't hear Toshiya though.

The vocals are well they are decent. And his english is slightly better as I could tell it was english alot faster than clever sleazoid. Even after I found out that CL was all english I couldn't believe it.

[Hide My Heart]

SHHH! <.< >.> *its free*

You know what I really thought was amazing on this single was how it high lights the evolution that Kao and Die have been working on together steadily these last few years. Its absolutely jaw dropping how their styles have learned to completely mesh and complement each other to produce such complicated work.

I agree on the Toshiya thing. :/ Where in the heck is he?

[beau99]

I agree on the Toshiya thing. :/ Where in the heck is he?
ASOM has a distinct bass line provided by him, you just need good headphones to hear it.

[Nana007]

Well In Japan if the single or album release is close to a tour date, they will sell it a few days before. So they might do it with this tour.

But I decided that I will pre order it. But if they have the 1st press on sale at any of my shows I will buy it. And Cancel the Preorder.

Also has anyone seen this interview. http://www.barks.jp/feature/?id=1000028133

Ameko from Batsu while she didn't translate it she says this about it:
I read through it already. I won't translate it because it's actually pretty damn boring, but here's the high points:


+ Kyo was not at the interview ("Sadly, Kyo was not in attendance"). Sounds like he just chose not to show up.

+ Kaoru says that they wrote a handful of new songs "in the bus" during the second half of the Family Values Tour. He also added that some of the songs on their new album will be those songs they wrote during FVT.

+ Kaoru states that it was Toshiya's idea for the video to be animated. Toshiya evidently saw the artist's work and thought he would be good for the PV's animator.

+ The interviewer said that it was rumored the video is really disgusting and offensive. The guys all just shrugged and said "... yea something like that." The interviewer added "but surely no normal tv program is going to air a video so offensive!" and they basically responded that they didn't give a crap (much more tactfully than that of course, but that's the general idea).

+ Toshiya also mentioned that, in his opinion, the music, the lyrics, the PV, and the entire image of the song are all 100% in agreement.

[Hide My Heart]

-_____- I'm going to try and say this without coming off like one of those douche bags that sits in front of their comps all day and goes "omg like I hate everything American and those stoopid posers and blah blah blah musical purity and down with the man and oh mah god my dad wont let me have the minivan so Cube is the only thing that can pull me out of my funk cause I only like bands stuff once its several years old and don't like any new" so please stay with me because that's definitely not my intention.

With that all being said I love music from all over and despite what some say to my ears at least there IS a difference in the styles of music from different countries even if its all one genera (rock from Germany just doesn't sound like rock from Russia to my ears). And I know some people argue that most of these types of music evolved in America so it doesn't matter anyway (which is a piss poor argument to me), but I think ever since Diru went on the FV tour there's been a slight but noticeable change in their behavior that's definitely becoming reflected in the music and as much as I'm excited to see where its going to go there's a part of me that strongly dislikes the new flavor.

Diru has managed to stay on top for longer than most bands and like everything else sooner or latter they're bound to fall and I think the attitude of a band has a lot to do with it. Hopefully whatever direction they're going in will be one that's productive and true to who they are. Sometimes when you spend a lot of time in one country you start absorbing the "feel" of that country wither its your own or not.

Er, I'm going to stop here and hope that you can see what I'm getting at. I don't want to go into a whole big thing that will screwier my meaning which is bound to happen if I type too much. Basically while I'm excited and am looking foreword to the new album anything written under FV influence in a bus makes me antsy.

[Camui]

I definitely agree and I feel the same way you do. Even if they're "absorbing" the "American" feel I definitely think we should all give it a chance and as fans continue supporting them no matter what. Who knows, this can turn out to be a very good thing and for the most part I'm just glad they're here. I'm excited and nervous about this all the same time, but I know that no matter what happens I'll always love and support them. (Sorry if that sounded cheesy lol >.<)

[Hide My Heart]

Yes! Exactly, its important to be level headed (I mean obviously you have the freedom to walk away at anytime if you don't like which is a much better option than whining), but at the same time there is that nervous feeling about the new sound now that they've had so much US exposure.

[Camui]

Haha, yeah, let's just hope it's a good thing. Personally, I wonder what they thought of the fans here. I mean, I know I was like nervous when I shook Die and Kaoru's hands and I that look that Kaoru gave me...lets just say I thought I was gonna die. It wasn't like a bad look or anything, but it was just like WOW you know. It's just really hard to describe, but in a way it kinda felt like I'd think I'd feel if I was naked in front of someone. I felt embarassed and after that my face just felt like it was burning for like ever. Even now I think about it and I keep blinking and looking like o.o with my cheeks burning. Does anyone know about anything they've said about the fans here??

[Hide My Heart]

Well . . . ok. Here's my two cents on FV and remember its just my opinion so whatever, its formed purely on my own personal experiences I've had at FV and other similar concert venues which will obviously differ from every one else's.

The atmosphere at FV is definitely not my cup of tea, and one of the major point a lot of foreign bands have going for them is their behavior. The strong jock, party till you puke, show your tits, shot gun bears till you swear to drunk your not god, tattooed, hairy attitude is just not for me. Have you been to some of the events at FV? I swear to god if I ever for some reason end up going again and see THAT many pregnant women smoking and drinking I am going to have an attack.

Obviously their opinions couldn't have been the best. But that's not what worries me : its the same behavior in the bands that attract these crowds (now now not EVERY one at FV is like that I mean its not smut fest 98' or anything), because the bands are who they would have had constant contact with and these are the people that would have had the most influence on them by the end of the tour which is rather disturbing. o.O

I think the attitude in the band and the attitude towards the fans HAS changed since FV. Not a huge wamping change but I do feel that its building up to something but like anything I just have to sit on my hands till it comes round.

[Anchyyy]

Does anyone have the lyrics and the translation for the Agitated Screams of Maggots? :souka:

[Hide My Heart]

Sure no prob Anchyyy :-)

Agitated Screams of Maggots

dir en grey

I'm killing the haughtily fly
I'm gonna slash your wound just like mine.
I can't hear the voices of society anymore.
I don't understand. You're all fine hypocrites.
Shout The Joy
Your song's drenched in blood and it's full of ****.
You can't shoot the silver bullet into me.
Shout The Joy
It's the Black Flag, ************!!
I wanna shout out to all the trash celebrity stars.
I'll rape your daughter on your grave,
I'll rape your daughter on your grave,
I'll rape your daughter on your grave,
I'm gonna slash your wound just like mine.
I can't hear the voices of society anymore.
I Shout Die!
It's the Black Flag, ************!!
I wanna shout out to all the trash celebrity stars.
I'll rape your daughter on your grave,
I'll rape your daughter on your grave,
I'll rape your daughter on your grave,
Cold Blooded

The whole thing is actually sung in English so the translations are the lyrics.

[Anchyyy]

:shock: Sung in ENGLISH? :buuh: Kyo's singing isn't even close to English :okashii: But i still love it! :blush: Anyways... thank you ^^

[haru_urara]

Thanks Hide_My_Heart!! ^^

[Reita-kun]

I love that avatar placebo

WHAT?! it in english? i didnt know that Kyo sung it in english... >< so COOL! thanks!

[Hide My Heart]

Ha ha. I love that too. No matter what new feeling hes taken on he always shows such enthusiasm for it. Its really heartening to see that.

[Reita-kun]

i know, i love it... i'm listening to it right now... haha and i'm in the middle of class.. i want to jump on my desk and go RRRAAAWWWRRR but then i'd get in trouble... but it would be so worth it...

being like Kyo-sama.. haha :lol:

[Camui]

The kind of influence they received from the other bands also worries me, but I feel Deg are solid enough as a groupgroup and even though their new influences are reflected, they're still Deg in the end.

[Hide My Heart]

Yeah they're still diru. I hope some time back home will have given them an opportunity to reconnect. But that whole Kyo just not showing up thing made me blink twice. We really don't know the reason why so its foolish to panic but not showing up because you don't feel like it is a pretty American thing to do.

[Thirteen]

wow I haven't been on here in forever! I got to see the agitated screams of maggots pv and it rox!

[daki]

^They'll have tour goods but I don't think they will have an autograph session.
Anyone check out Diru's OHP??
NEW ALBUM!!
THE MARROW OF A BONE
2/7/2007!!!!
I'll probably buy this one at the show (you think they'll have it?) instead of ordering it online....unless there is a limited edition release.
wow, i hope they'll have it with them at the toronto show on feb 9 , would save me some $ from ordering online!!

[Hide My Heart]

Mah tummy hurts too. We had stuffing that was so rich I could barely eat a few spoon fulls. lol We didn't have any sweet potatoes with marshmallows though. :/ I really miss those I feel as if I haven't had them for years!

I hope your tummy feels better soon pixie!

Its a shame diru couldn't be in America for any of our holidays! I bet they'd enjoy all the nummies around the holidays. Yum, perhaps I should pack up some holiday sweets in my next package to them at the concert. Marzipan anyone? Oh which reminds me! Is anyone else making a gift to give to them this year? Last year I saw some really great packages and want to aim even higher this year. I originally wanted to get a carton of smokes and some porn but then I read in an interview that the best gifts they receive are more practical things - Shin was absolutely thrilled with a vacuum cleaner he received. How do I beat a vacuum cleaner?

[Riyko]

@pixy_false: I'll be flying out of Toronto XD after my classes on the 22nd so it might be an overnight flight for me.

Happy thanksgiving everyone =).

Buy shinya a Mircrowave or Toaster he'd probably like those too.

[Hide My Heart]

Hrm, but I only want to give gifts to Kao and Kyo this year. :( IF I gave Kyo a toaster hed just eat it.

Or use it to brand himself. D:

[Camui]

Hmm...I really do feel like giving them something, especially since I didn't take the chance to last time, but I guess that's mostly because I didn't know that their was a meet and great and that I'd be close enough to even give them anything. I have no idea who I'd want to give things to, though I'd certainly like to give them each something, but I have no idea what they'd like. That makes me sound like such a bad fan, doesn't it?...Anyways, do you guys have any general ideas you could give me about the kinds of things they like or like getting? I'd really aprpeciate it. :-)

Happy Turkey Day!~:wave:

[Hide My Heart]

Has anyone here been a member long enough to remember the Diru toasters? I mean I know some of you were around but by god those things were great. If I had honestly had a way to make them I would have, lol. (rofls toaster talk)

Um things they like? Well honestly I think cigs and porn is as good an idea as any. Oh! And last year I saw a girl get Kao a bunch of In & Out things since he likes burgers. I thought that that was cute.

[Nana007]

I remember Diru toasters ah great times great times. And the shortly lived J-Rock Battle Royal. That was funny.

[Hide My Heart]

oh my god battle royal! I remember that! damn! We never found out who would win either! My vote was in for Kagrra, they had Nao and a plan to combat Mana's eyeliner - unstoppable force.

Damn is it just me or has jref lost some of that happy fun time-ness.

Alright, I was thinking of my gift and I wasthinking what if I got them each a pack of cigs with a bow on it? Do you think that would work? :/

[Nana007]

Well not for Shinya lol. Wanna see my gift for Shinya... I can't find the link but its a t shirt that says "Save a drum bang a drummer" lol aint that cute.

And yep JRef has lost some of its fun. I wonder how many Morning Musume girls a left, you know Kyo did eat a good number of them.

[Hide My Heart]

omg! XD That's so cute! Ah, if only I could find something like that for guitar and vocal and I'd be set. Argh you've just raised the bar. Now I have to find something that's on the level of that damn vac and your t-shirt.

Ah but see the great thing about having the musume girls host was that as soon as Kyo downed a couple we could just replace them! And when they final band had won and were awaiting their helicopter to take them back we could just release what girls remained onto the wilds of the island to feed the starving winning members. The cycle of life at its best! Everything would have taken care of itself. Unless MYV had somehow won . . . :?

[Riyko]

I remember Diru toasters XD that thought came to my mind when I posted about the toaster idea.

If you really can't think of anything to get any of the members of Diru just buy them underwear they'll wear them. Toshiya and Kaoru wear everything the fans get them if i'm remembering correctly.

[pinkbuta304]

Hrm, but I only want to give gifts to Kao and Kyo this year. :( IF I gave Kyo a toaster hed just eat it.
Or use it to brand himself. D:

I read somewhere that Kyo likes sausage mcmuffins. You could get him like a dozen!!! lol

[pinkbuta304]

I still haven't received my tickets! Should i start to panick???
Anyways, theres like 91 days 2 hours till the show!!! :yeahh:
I wonder if Kyo is gonna touch himself like i heard he did last time! He does that A LOT doesn't he? Dirty little kyo!

[kelvin]

Edit by Dutch Baka;
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This forum can get in trouble when copyrighted material is being posted. There are plenty of other mediums that can be used besides the forum for all transfers and sharing, use them instead.

[PANTS]

woot I got one of my tickets.. now waiting for the other.

And I got a question. My little cousin is 14 and she wants to go to the phili show with me. I recently infected her with diru love and she wants to go see them. Do you think a diru concert would be okay for someone that age? I haven't been to many concerts, two actually, and they weren't dir en grey. So I don't know. I'm guessing most of the audience is female, so that might help my case. Buuuuut still. What do you guys think?

[Hide My Heart]

Thanks a very good question PANTS, you sound like you care for her very much. Id say if you're going to take her you should consider a few things.

1) What kind of person she is. Personally I don't see anything wrong with a 14 year old rocking out at home to music she can't understand the lyrics to, however at a concert understanding the literal meaning of the lyrics or no there is that incredible vibe that goes through the audience that *is* sexual, sometimes violent and at times a bit hysterical.

2) Keep in mind you're taking her to see a band who's lead singer fish hooks his face. Here are some pretty good pictures taken during a concert that should give you a feel of what the average diru concert is like :

http://www.musicpix.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=578&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

That level of intensity on stage isn't for everyone and seeing someone fish hook themselves or cut themselves with their fingernails or razor blades isn't something you'd like to show her you should let her parents know ahead of time so they can think on it.

3) And I know some people say this isn't a problem but I've taken younger members of my family to a concert before so in my experience its something to worry about :/. And that's how *physically* little she is, where you'll be sitting and how many concerts she's been to before hand. If you're sitting in an area where there's bound to be a lot of energy and she's very small I suggest working something out so you can always be near her. Diru gives some of the most intensity concerts I've every been to and the first one by them I attended at the Wiltern had people in the pit literally passing out and having to climb over the moshers to be helped out by security so they could see the on site medic. lol I still remember the amount of girls in wheel chairs or laying on the ground just trying to breath deeply and shakily holding the water they gave them to sip over in the sick/rest area of the hall after the show. I was almost one of them. So if you DO go ahead and take her make sure you work something out where you can be with her at all times, perhaps wrap your arms around her to keep her from getting mashed (usually I stand behind my cousin at a show and when the crowd moves I put my arms in a loose circle around her to keep her with me and make sure some dumb butt doesn't try to mash her).

I hope whatever goes on you have a good and safe time! :-) And yes a lot of the crowd is female but the concerts I've been to are equally mixed. I think JREF tends to be a little more female on the diru threads. lol

[haru_urara]

WHOA :| Kyo really cuts himself on stage? :| I always thought that was fake! :| But his belly :| WhoA! What the hell happened to his face? :S

[Hide My Heart]

Its called fish hooking and no its not fake (the vomit was what was fake). Fish hooking is where you take your finger and forma fish hook shape with it and stab your nail into your skin before ripping it away quite suddenly. At "best" this rips away an open flap or chunk of skin, at "worst" all it does is leave a rather nasty scrape.

lol

The first time I saw him do it live he started by fish hooking the inside of his mouth and it took him several times to get it right so what he ended up flinging over the audience was saliva instead of blood. It was a strange moment that I ended up witting a pretty long JREF post about and its significance.

But yeah the blood part is all real. Like that NO FUTURE message he carved into his chest awhile back. :/

[haru_urara]

WHOA! XD I heard it was true, but I thought like... Yaah sure XD But now I saw pictures of it O.O It looks horrible XD XD But yeah.. Kyo XD

[Hide My Heart]

:/ Yeah. When away from a concert and in my home it makes me worry. But like I said in that long post that's somewhere on a thread is that seeing it was the equivalent of a religious experience. Before I ever saw diru live I said :sure I'm a fan" but I really had no idea what that meant until I got in a situation where myself and the dozen other people around me crushing the breath from my body were all fighting and screaming for a man on stage to hit us with his spit. lol

I suppose that sounds a bit crazy but really that's how it felt. After that concert I was left shaky and so sick I couldn't move properly for a week but I felt as if somehow I had had a internal cleansing of some sort. :D

[haru_urara]

XD Were those people really all like: KYO PLEASE SPIT ON MEEE?!!! :|
Whoa.. That's....... Uhhh XD

I'd do the same XD Cleaning XD

[Hide My Heart]

Yeah lol. People were being elbowed in the face as the crowd made this huge push over towards kyo and everyone started screaming "kyoo-samaaaa onegaaiiiiii!!!!"

[haru_urara]

That's just... =S WHOA! XD XD It's pretty disgusting if you think about it... =S XD Begging someone to spit on you XD XD

[Hide My Heart]

Yeah I had a moment where I went - my god I'm about to be crushed to death in a mob of people asking - no - begging for a man to spit on them and are ready to claw the person next to them for a chance. And in that moment I think I realized what the expression Rock God meant. I felt as if I had finally touched upon what that feeling of fame and hysteria people are always so desperately trying to create felt like and it was the Real Thing. And I also realized that it felt wonderful.

[mikichan]

two days in advance!! thats so early!!!!!! do they just sleep on the sidewalk or something???? ...

i always wondered ... how does he sing after he does the fish hooking thing?? ud think his mouth would be killing him ....

[Hide My Heart]

Sleep on the sidewalk? XD No no they just took turns on watch and they were always in a group. lol I take it you've never camped out before? ;)

Well he sang just fine. Plus I don't think pain is a big thing when it comes to Kyo.

[mikichan]

ohhh, lol .. iv been camping, but i gues its kinda very different from camping out for a concert ...

ya but thats why i dont get it ... he sings perfectly fine, after cutting his mouth from the inside .. ud think that even if pain isnt a big problem for kyo, that he'd have some reaction?? i dont know .. i dont have a really good pain tolerance ... maybe thats why i dont get it? oh well, it will forever be a mystery to me ..

[Hide My Heart]

Well I mean some people DO "camp out" in lines. I've only been in one situation like that and we went out before hand and bought a cheapy tent and pitched in our place and just set up shop. lol

Um well diru asks that people not talk too much about what happens at their shows and while they say its because they want to keep some of the mystery honestly I think its because of things like this. The energy that's going through the place when it finally comes time for him to fish hook, cut or scratch himself is well - absolutely amazing to be honest. And its just one of those things that I can't describe but I'll try. When I said religious experience earlier that honestly is the best thing I can compare it too because there comes a point in a concert (and perhaps you know what I'm talking about) when EVERY ONE is in pain. You're clamped against a hundred other people and you're all slowly suffocating each other and you're only hope for fresh air is to stand high on your feet which are killing you because they've been pounded on by you and the people in front of you. You have the option of fighting your way out and being able to end it all - the pain, the pressure, the heat, the sweat, the blows from other dancers and you *don't*. You just decide to keep on going and the moment that decision is made somehow that pain isn't so bad anymore. That giving up and giving in is the religious experience part of it because it feels to me exactly the same as if you're participating in certain rituals that go on for hours and leave you sweating and in agony but somehow feeling as if you've been shaken to the core and cleansed in that primitive part of the brain.

I think that moment on a dance floor or a concert or whatever where one decides to not fight the pain and discomfort and instead embrace it full hardily is what kyo is also experiencing and expressing on stage and like I said its a strange energy that you may or may not experience. So when things get to that point even if you're low on pain tolerance like I am its just another pain that's going on and somehow its not all that bad. Remember diru started singing is a way of expressing the pain caused by peoples weaknesses ~ and their concerts are the baptismal ceremony into understanding what they mean by that.

lol That sounds crazy fan girlish but I'm trying my best. I've also talked with other people at the FVT that said they experienced the exact same thing so I'm going with what I know as well as what others have told me.

[mikichan]

didn't know they asked fans to not talk to much about their concerts ... ud think that if people want to talk, they're going to talk ...

i think i know the feeling ur getting at, it just comes differently to me that ur example of the religious feelings, cause im not really religious ...... for me its when i draw ... i just sit for hours on end, so that my legs and my hands cramp up and i get super hungry, but i just ignore it and keep drawing or whatever it is at the moment ... i dont think its exactly the same as what ur trying to say, probably less painful! but its a start?? as for the dancing part, i kinda just go sit down once i get tired and talk, since the majority of people i know dont like to dance .. its just me really, lol ...
the only time iv been to a concert where iv been squished between people and all of that, was for a band that i like, but dont like a lot ... the only reason i went was cause my friend dragged me ... but i just got pissed at person behind me who kept elbowing me and trying to talk at the same time .. except i couldn't hear a word they said ...
normally i dont get the pit tickets to concerts, cause its to expensive ... if i go i end up getting the furthest seats *if its organized* or just generally seats pretty far away ... like at the FVT, i got the lawn tickets .....
and crazy fangirling is good everynow and then!! lol, helps to get all the obsessivness out of ur system!

[Hide My Heart]

XD No crazy is good but really all that made me sound as if I have a shrine to them or something when in reality the most diru stuff I do is type on this thread and keep their latest CD in my top 20 rotation list. But I believe in savor an experiance when it happens. lol Yeah I'm not really religious either but I've had the opportunity to participate in ceremonies that went on for hours and they became like that, er I wanted originally to compare it to ballet classes because there's a moment where pain doesn't matter but it just didn't seem right because that's an instance where you're ON stage and not receiving. But yes! That's what I'm talking about that moment where pain doesn't matter and its something that's not confined to the audience - I think its catching for the performers which makes rock concerts unique because they're some of the only concerts where the audience as well as the act are both in discomfort together.

[PANTS]

Thanks a very good question PANTS, you sound like you care for her very much. Id say if you're going to take her you should consider a few things.

1) What kind of person she is. Personally I don't see anything wrong with a 14 year old rocking out at home to music she can't understand the lyrics to, however at a concert understanding the literal meaning of the lyrics or no there is that incredible vibe that goes through the audience that *is* sexual, sometimes violent and at times a bit hysterical.

2) Keep in mind you're taking her to see a band who's lead singer fish hooks his face. Here are some pretty good pictures taken during a concert that should give you a feel of what the average diru concert is like :

http://www.musicpix.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=578&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

That level of intensity on stage isn't for everyone and seeing someone fish hook themselves or cut themselves with their fingernails or razor blades isn't something you'd like to show her you should let her parents know ahead of time so they can think on it.

3) And I know some people say this isn't a problem but I've taken younger members of my family to a concert before so in my experience its something to worry about :/. And that's how *physically* little she is, where you'll be sitting and how many concerts she's been to before hand. If you're sitting in an area where there's bound to be a lot of energy and she's very small I suggest working something out so you can always be near her. Diru gives some of the most intensity concerts I've every been to and the first one by them I attended at the Wiltern had people in the pit literally passing out and having to climb over the moshers to be helped out by security so they could see the on site medic. lol I still remember the amount of girls in wheel chairs or laying on the ground just trying to breath deeply and shakily holding the water they gave them to sip over in the sick/rest area of the hall after the show. I was almost one of them. So if you DO go ahead and take her make sure you work something out where you can be with her at all times, perhaps wrap your arms around her to keep her from getting mashed (usually I stand behind my cousin at a show and when the crowd moves I put my arms in a loose circle around her to keep her with me and make sure some dumb butt doesn't try to mash her).

I hope whatever goes on you have a good and safe time! :-) And yes a lot of the crowd is female but the concerts I've been to are equally mixed. I think JREF tends to be a little more female on the diru threads. lol

Wow thank you so much! That really helps. I thought about a few of those things, and the pics really helped. I'm starting to think she shouldn't go. Not really because she's too young, but because she doesn't really understand the kind of music it really is. Right now she's at the "Die is so hot!" stage. And yes, he definitely is, but that's not all it's about. Also, unfortunately, she's very immature (even for her age). I love her to death but she is. She also is much too pretty for her own good, and looks 18. So I can't really blame them, but 20 year-olds will constantly flirt with her/check her out and she has no clue. Her parents asked me to get some info about what goes on at their concerts, and what I thought would be the right decision, I'll think about it a bit more but now it's looking like a no. Thankfully she doesn't know I have any say in it so she won't hate me forever lol. Anyway this is turning into a blog and it was just supposed to be a thank you. lol. so THANKS. ^^ Sorry... *scampers away*

[Saishu]

So I read on CDJapan that the limited edition of Agitated Screams of Maggots comes with a sticker.
I don't think I got one...
Also, people are getting their tickets in the mail already? I bought mine for the New York show during the presale and I haven't gotten them yet. I'm trying not to worry.

EDIT: Looking at some of those pics of Kyo from the Family Values tour, some of that blood is obviously fake. So while I don't doubt that he fish hooks the inside of his mouth, I think he amplifies the effect by sneaking blood capsules in there. The blood is far too bright and thick to be real.

As for the chest/stomach clawing, yeah... he's not faking that.

[Thirteen]

at FVT when I went he scraped his stomach ^^, and if he spit on me......*nosebleeds* uhh...I wouldn't just write a long thing....I"D WRITE A NOVEL!!....ok now that I've gotten that out of my system lol

[Riyko]

Saishu
the sticker should be on the white sleeve the cd was in, that's where mine was.

about the blood and blood capsules, how would kyo sing with the blood capsules in his mouth and he doesn't have them in his hand since he keeps his hands open and switches the microphone around so if he did have some in his hand he'd break them when he switches the microphone with his hands.

It's the same concept with wrestling, people think that they blood in pro wrestling like WWE, ECW, TNA ect is blood capsules because it's too bright or too much blood, but it's real blood they cut themselves with small razorblades they have in their hands.

[Saishu]

Well... look on this page:
http://www.musicpix.net/gallery/Dir-en-grey
Bottom row, middle photo. That's definitely fake blood; it's TOO red. It's almost like paint. I know he keeps his nails long and sharp and all (you can see them right there) but he didn't get all that "blood" from scraping the inside of his mouth.
He's got the capsules hidden somewhere.

EDIT: If the link directs you to the wrong pics, the one I'm talking about is on page three of that gallery.

Also, I found the sticker. It was inside where the CD goes, but it was just way down in there. I probably would have never found it if I hadn't specifically looked for it.

[Hide My Heart]

Um ok, in those pics I'm going to argue for authenticity. I've been at parties where friends have gotten totally out of control and have started clawing at themselves and believe it or not shallow cuts yield blood that looks like that. Not all blood is the deep deep ruby red shade you're used to seeing when you ***** yourself especially if its the shallow scrapes you get from your nails and then its smeared. Its bound to be a lighter shade because its spread thin.

Also I kept my eyes on him the entire FVT concerts because I had had this exact argument with my guy friend. Honestly Kyo has to much free movement on stage with his hands to be hiding capsules ESPECIALLY when you consider before he started doing what you see in the pictures he stood before the crowd with arms and fingers outstretched so you could see quite clearly that he had nothing before he reached up and started to abuse himself. People who inflict pain upon themselves have a whole different mind set when it comes to things like this so its pointless saying "so and so wouldn't blank" because you're obviously of a healthier mind set so you can't possibly understand what it's like to just go ahead and damage yourself. I think if you look at the progression of self mutilation on stage over the years its only the natural progression of things.

[Saishu]

Again, I know the chest and stomach scratching is 100% real, but when blood starts pouring out like that I get suspicious. He did something similar in the performance of "Shokubeni" on the Code of Vulgar DVD. He punched the side of his face several times until blood came out of his mouth, but he didn't appear to be punching himself [i]that hard.
As for the fish hooking, what makes me question it is the fact that he did it during the same part of "Kodoku ni shisu..." at (as far as I know) every show during the It Withers and Withers and Family Values tours. That leads me to believe that it's just part of the visual aspect of the performance.
Not that it really matters, though; we're all going to believe whatever we want. What we can all agree on is that Dir en grey is awesome, which is really all that's important.

[Thirteen]

I wish he did more at the one I went to. For some weird reason, he was staring at me b/c there was not a lot of ppl in the pit yet, and he was staring and my friend was like "wtf why's he staring at u?"
me: *fangirl moment* @__@

[Hide My Heart]

my friend was like "wtf why's he staring at u?"
me: *fangirl moment* @__@

XD I had a similar Kao moment. Ah fangirl . . . how you make my IQ drop.

[Riyko]

Saishu
It really is real blood, I used to cut myself and the blood if I wouldn't cut deep enough would be that color or red or lighter plus thinner. Also if you fish hook your mouth alot of blood does come out because of the saliva so it's mixed and then the sweat mixes with the blood so not only is it lighter, but it looks like there is alot more because of saliva and sweat.

[daki]

geez i hope i don't need to lineup 2 days before the concert. it's freezing cold here in toronto in early feb. -.-"
but i really hope they'll have an autograph session. i want them to sign my diru collection man. hopefully they'll have tour t-shirts for sale along with the new album too!!

but re: the blood thing going on in this topic, as a long time diru fan i personally don't like the blood thing kyo do. just don't really see a need to do it anymore when it's obvious that they are focusing more on music rather than looks (gimmicks?).

[Hide My Heart]

I don't think the blood is so much as a gimmick as just something that's part of Kyo. I used to cut too :/ (high five Riyko) and its just something that you do and any excuse is a good excuse especially when it comes to stage performance. I think if he did it on his own he'd have everybody worried like that time before but as long as its during songs and what not he can just fall back on that.

Man, whatever happened to the worried about Kyo thread? Where in the hell is that?

[daki]

I don't think the blood is so much as a gimmick as just something that's part of Kyo. I used to cut too :/ (high five Riyko) and its just something that you do and any excuse is a good excuse especially when it comes to stage performance. I think if he did it on his own he'd have everybody worried like that time before but as long as its during songs and what not he can just fall back on that.
Man, whatever happened to the worried about Kyo thread? Where in the hell is that?
taht's why i put gimmick with a question mark after it...
ya i understand what u say, i guess i'm just trying to figure kyo out with my sort of healthy mind.... :okashii:

[beau99]

As for the fish hooking, what makes me question it is the fact that he did it during the same part of "Kodoku ni shisu..." at (as far as I know) every show during the It Withers and Withers and Family Values tours. That leads me to believe that it's just part of the visual aspect of the performance.

About that...

Kyo only does it if he's pissed at the moment. IF he's really pissed, he'll do it quite a lot (as he did at Loud Park in October), but if he's feeling happy, he won't do it quite as much.

Oh, and Kyo says he hates theatrics now and keeps everything completely real.

[Saishu]

Oh, and Kyo says he hates theatrics now and keeps everything completely real.

Kyo also used to say that his favourite colour was "homo."

[Hide My Heart]

XD Yes well I mean its not like he's ever really given that many straight answers. Just accept it and don't pick.

[beau99]

Kyo also used to say that his favourite colour was "homo."
Yeah, he used to lie about things.

However lately, he's been going away from that and giving serious, straightforward answers.

[innocentwilight]

i saw them this past summer with the family values tour. they were great, AND KYO BLEAD ON ME!! it was so cool!!!:lol:

hey hide...i love your icon

[Nana007]

http://media.godashboard.com/familyvalues/HolidayCardComp.jpg

Find the boys (err..they are actually men but...) its pretty easy, although it took me a few seconds to find Toshiya.

[Hide My Heart]

rofls. Kao has pimp face, Shin has Shin face, Kyo has "I'll bite me somethin soon face" and Die and Toshiya? Where did they goooo? (red shirt @ the bottom?)

[Hide My Heart]

Oh man I thought that was Die but it looks all . . . I dunno? Gay pose? rofls! XD

@innocentwilight ~ friended!

[Morning Masamune]

For those of you who still can't spot them:cool:

[pixy_false]

Holy knights of Columbus!!! It was so freaking hot last night and the temperature is rapidly dropping to the 20s. Guess I'll finally get to wear my spiffy new coat.

@MorningMasamune: Wow! That made it easy to spot. What the hell is Toshiya doing way over there!


Anyhoo, I was reading this mag while bored at work, and it said you could predict how rock stars are in bed by the looks on their faces during shows, according to them the spazzier they, the better. And this picture of Kyo popped into my head and I burst into a fit giggles scaring my boss lady. LMAO
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/pixy_false/ohyeah.jpg

[Nana007]

Oh that picture is a classic. So that means Kyo must be a BEAST in bed huh? LOL

[Hide My Heart]

:/

yeah

I'm honestly baffled. From diru to Gackt in 6o sec. Oh the shame! =_____=

But Yoshiki's history with diru seems to be up to debate as well. Most of the time I hear people bashing yoshiki's work with them, however I hear just as many people saying that's their fa work by diru. WHo knows? :sick:

[Nana007]

Well some of the older fans feels that Dir en grey screwed over Yoshiki. Because after Macabre they left him for Free Will. Like you made us famous so we don't need you know.

But I believe that Dir en grey would have been famous whether or not they had Yoshiki. In fact it was Yoshiki who approached them.

[Saishu]

Well, I think Diru broke away from Yoshiki so that they could explore and eventually shift over to the hard edged metal sound they've since adopted. Notice that Yoshiki produced songs like "Yurameki," "Cage," "Yokan," and "Akuro no Oka." Those were the more pop/rock songs on Gauze. Surprisingly, he did produce "Zan," which, if you ask me, was a hint that Diru wanted to create heavier and darker music.

And BTW you can pre order the new CD.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SFCD-48

Woah... a NEW recording of Clever Sleazoid?! And a bonus CD with classical arragements of songs from the album?!

I'm preordering right now. Like, as soon as I press "Submit."

[Nana007]

I preordered as well. A classical version of clever sleazoid? I know that Luna Did a classical project. But I seriously could never imagine Classical Deg.

[Aoi.]

My parents don't let me buy CDs online. So I'm going back to Taiwan over the summer, and spending all my money on JRock CDs. :0

Classical version of Clever Sleazoid. I can't tell what that'll sound like. ^^;

[daki]

Well some of the older fans feels that Dir en grey screwed over Yoshiki. Because after Macabre they left him for Free Will. Like you made us famous so we don't need you know.
But I believe that Dir en grey would have been famous whether or not they had Yoshiki. In fact it was Yoshiki who approached them.
hmm, diru was never signed under yoshiki or extacsy records. they were with freewill from Jealous to Gauze, then switched to Sony Firewall since Macabre, if my memory is correct. yoshiki was only the producer for their triple major debut singles Yurameki, Zen, and akuro no oka. i think he took part in helping compiling Gauze as well. too lazy to take out the CD booklet.

forgot exactly how yoshiki and diru decided to work together, but if you didn't know most of diru are/were X Japan fans.

Don't know. :blush:
I don't like Gackt though. :sorry:
not a gackt fan here too. a yoshiki/X Japan fan though. but even so, some of yoshiki's more recent moves has been strange in my opinion......he's being odd in someways.

[Hide My Heart]

I don't ever remember them being with Yoshiki's label either. And I agree with Nana about them being famous anyway. Diru had been attracting a lot of attention on their own, otherwise Yoshiki wouldn't have approached them? If a band has a lot of talent it doesn't really matter too much in the long run who their producer is.

Ah . . . . I'll hold my tongue about Gackt since I never seem to have any luck on this forum when it comes to talking about him. *SIGH* Yoshiki's gone wonky in his old age.

[Haiko]

I read in some interview that they wanted to do something diferent, and that's why they left Yoshiki. I don't remember much more about that interview...but that was the reason.

Classical versions of the songs?? I really can't imagine that...

[Morning Masamune]

Classical versions of the songs?? I really can't imagine that...

Neither can I, I keep imagining Kyo soulfully over-singing Clever Sleazoid.
(That's right I said SINGING, though screaming his way through a classical Clever Sleazoid would be crack.)

[Saishu]

The classical versions most likely won't have any vocals in them, they'll just be the songs played by an orchestra. I can't wait to hear a symphonic version of Ryoujoku no Ame.

I'm also really curious as to how they changed Clever Sleazoid since cdjapan says they re-recorded it for the album. Maybe Kyo improved his English a little bit.

[Kinsao]

The classical versions sound really interesting.. especially as Diru's music seems to have been gettin heavier.. and this is another direction.. or dimension.. something :mad: :D

[Nana007]

Dir en grey was on East-West Japan when they were indies. So they weren't allways on free will. And free will and Firewall Div is the same thing. FW is their record company and Firewall is their division of the record company.

[Riyko]

woh, finally something cool that actually makes me wanna pre order it. but i'm struggling with preordering or hoping that they would bring it along with them to the toronto show?
is cdjapan the only place offering preorder for now? i've never used cdjapan cuz they charge u too much for shipping..

You can preorder the limited edition one from Yesasia and HMV, you'd have to check out other places though.

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-j/section-music/pid-1004591512/
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=2501216

[Nana007]

Dir en grey
DESPAIR IN THE WOMB

「a knot」 boxset with two DVDs:

DISC 1 [BUDOUKAN2DAYS]
1. TOUR05~06 IT WITHERS AND WITHERS FINAL
2. TOUR06 INWARD SCREAM

DISC 2
1. SXSW
2. SHOWCASE TOUR
3. TOUR06 IT WITHERS AND WITHERS
4. FAMILY VALUES

I MUST HAVE THIS DVD!!!

[pixy_false]

Sweet Lord!!! I must get this boxset!!!!

Dunno how though....

[Aoi.]

Dir en grey
DESPAIR IN THE WOMB
「a knot」 boxset with two DVDs:
DISC 1 [BUDOUKAN2DAYS]
1. TOUR05~06 IT WITHERS AND WITHERS FINAL
2. TOUR06 INWARD SCREAM
DISC 2
1. SXSW
2. SHOWCASE TOUR
3. TOUR06 IT WITHERS AND WITHERS
4. FAMILY VALUES
I MUST HAVE THIS DVD!!!

HOLY. SAME. *will kill to get it +__+*

[Hide My Heart]

And as for the Sony thing, ah I suppose sooner or latter they'd encourage everyone to have a finger in their pie. Its not uncommon for distribution deals to be worked out with big companies and personally think it's a smart move - which is much better in my opinion that a deal with Yoshiki's label (which I don't think han't really been putting out anything good lately. Although I saw someone mention there were "other reasons" for why they stopped working with Yoshiki? I wonder what they could be? :? Whatever it is they seem to still have a great relationship with him? I mean he's been to a number of their US events but on the other hand he's been to some other Japanese artists events without them knowing so maybe it means nothing, however if I remember correctly he was definately backstage at the first US tour.

[Aoi.]

It's hard to sing along to English lyrics in Diru songs and say the words properly; I always end up repeating them in Kyo's crazy jibberish style.

Yeah! Me too!

I was singing Clever Sleazoid, but the problem was that the music goes on because he mispronounced words and drags them out. So I just say the word, and wait. Otherwise I mispronounce it too. But I love Kyo's english. It's so weird. :p

It's pretty easy to find parodies from Agitated Screams of Maggots, though.

[daki]

Um, wtf? >:/ :okashii:

And as for the Sony thing, ah I suppose sooner or latter they'd encourage everyone to have a finger in their pie. Its not uncommon for distribution deals to be worked out with big companies and personally think it's a smart move - which is much better in my opinion that a deal with Yoshiki's label (which I don't think han't really been putting out anything good lately. Although I saw someone mention there were "other reasons" for why they stopped working with Yoshiki? I wonder what they could be? :? Whatever it is they seem to still have a great relationship with him? I mean he's been to a number of their US events but on the other hand he's been to some other Japanese artists events without them knowing so maybe it means nothing, however if I remember correctly he was definately backstage at the first US tour.
well ya, looking at the situation now, sony owns yoshiki's extascy records...to be honest they never really signed anyone good. (i KNOW they "discovered" luna sea and glay, but both bands switched labels after they made it into the scene, thus i don't count them to be "under" extascy). the bunches of bands that were under extascy in the 90s weren't really good (i know they signed tokyo yankees, ladies room and such, but they ain't my type). the ones yoshiki signed after x japan broke up is not good either (honestly, have you ever heard anything about those bands??????). i honestly admire this man's talent, but sometimes it's just odd in terms of what he does. man, where's my Violet UK album.....endless waiting here...:okashii:

i think i was the one who mentioned "other reasons", but it's becuz i forgot the reason really. it's been a while. maybe diru wanted a change. i forgot.

in regards of a "good relationship", i think yoshiki is still respected in the japanese rock scene..plus yoshiki helped diru in the beginning, so i guess the boys keep in touch with him here and there.

[Hide My Heart]

:souka: Yeah that was my assumption as well.

Ah, this isn't a Yoshiki thread so I won't ramble but damn as time goes by I loose more and more respect for the man. He's just . . . I mean if you have one really really great thing under your belt and then dozens of failures and ho hums do you still deserve all the glitz? :/ No wonder Sony owns everything now! XD Even Yoshiki. Oh man that's so funny.

On another note . . .

I know there's been some discussion of this before but now I'd really like to hear what everyone thinks on the subject. Today I was up on Napster (japan version) looking at the top ten lists for downloads and I realized that its been, well, quite some time since I've SEEN diru on that list. Now I know this is just one example but recently I've seen a lot of signs that diru's popularity in Japan is dwindling (a void that if I HAD to speculate about I'd say will be one day filled by The gazettE). I know no band stays on top forever and Diru has had one hell of a run and I expect them to continue to do so for many years to come but there DOES come a point where a band is still popular and well respected but its like they've hit their limit. The limit being where they're still playing big concerts but it seems as if something fundamental in the band has just become tired and sooner or later the band or singer just starts repeating themselves adnausem and because the fan base is so loyal they keep buying albums which keeps things going longer then they should (ie Gackt).

Now, I don't think that will ever happen to that extent with diru since so far they've always managed to never disappoint with new things when it comes to their music, so it begs the question of what do you think will happen for the band several years from now. I don't see them as becoming the bloated greedy repetitive musician types but lets face it they aren't new to the scene.

[daki]

:souka: Yeah that was my assumption as well.
Ah, this isn't a Yoshiki thread so I won't ramble but damn as time goes by I loose more and more respect for the man. He's just . . . I mean if you have one really really great thing under your belt and then dozens of failures and ho hums do you still deserve all the glitz? :/ No wonder Sony owns everything now! XD Even Yoshiki. Oh man that's so funny.
On another note . . .
I know there's been some discussion of this before but now I'd really like to hear what everyone thinks on the subject. Today I was up on Napster (japan version) looking at the top ten lists for downloads and I realized that its been, well, quite some time since I've SEEN diru on that list. Now I know this is just one example but recently I've seen a lot of signs that diru's popularity in Japan is dwindling (a void that if I HAD to speculate about I'd say will be one day filled by The gazettE). I know no band stays on top forever and Diru has had one hell of a run and I expect them to continue to do so for many years to come but there DOES come a point where a band is still popular and well respected but its like they've hit their limit. The limit being where they're still playing big concerts but it seems as if something fundamental in the band has just become tired and sooner or later the band or singer just starts repeating themselves adnausem and because the fan base is so loyal they keep buying albums which keeps things going longer then they should (ie Gackt).
Now, I don't think that will ever happen to that extent with diru since so far they've always managed to never disappoint with new things when it comes to their music, so it begs the question of what do you think will happen for the band several years from now. I don't see them as becoming the bloated greedy repetitive musician types but lets face it they aren't new to the scene.

well i still think yoshiki deserves the respect. afterall, all his questionable moves could be categorized as "business failures" instead of "musical failures". so i think as long as he keeps it up with his music it's alright. that's how i see it.

regarding the popularity of diru in japan, i never really had a good idea of how they're doing back home. when i visited japan i never really saw anything about them, or met anyone who like them. but i guess it's a fact the general public is more into pop music. but diru is nothing related to pop. anything like that has had a history of struggling to fight into the big scene. X Japan/Luna sea reached their success because they ain't as hard rock as diru, so it's easier for the general public to gain acceptance. that's why Gackt is hot while i don't see anything too special about the man. you gotta be pop to be successful, sad fact.
for the next fews years, i think diru will stay as diru and come up with cool things, but for the past year or two they seem more focused on the foreign market. but maybe cut down the screaming a bit? i don't know, but sometimes i think older diru songs are cooler. as you said, Gazette has been red hot lately, and no dobut they're gonna grab fans along (i as one, consider them as an up and coming band if they come up with good stuff consistently).

[Nana007]

Ok so here is my response to the different things.

1. I prefer to order off of CD Japan, because Yes Asia doesn't give you the freebies like posters and stuff. How do I know? Because I ordered RnA with them and I didn't recieve my poster like everyone who ordered from HMV or CDJapan did. Instead they sold them extra for $8. I only order PhotoBooks from Yes Asia.

2. Dir en grey's popularity- well in Japan the Inward Scream tour they are doing now...not all of the venues have sold out. And you can buy FC tickets off of Yahoo Auctions for like $50 when about 3 years ago the went for like $100+ only a few venues sold out.

AlSO the U.S leg of the tour is struggling as well. They haven't sold out any of the venues yet. And some venues they have only sold like 200 tickets. And Most of the venues they are playing holds 1000+ so thats not good at all.

[Riyko]

I really don't know If I can trust in those places. I haven't ordered anything from anywhere yet, so... Is it secure?
I've ordered from both yesasia and cdjapan their both trustworthy and secure. I order all of my jrock stuff from cdjapan except once when I bought the hide perfect box set from yesasia.

With the Diru tour in Feb I think they booked too many venues and some are too close together. They have the colorado and arizona which both border utah and new mexico it doesn't cost alot to go from arizona to colorado and visa versa they should of booked a venue that meets in the middle of those two states. An example somewhere in new mexico or utah (I wouldn't blame them for never coming to utah XD). 16 shows may not seem like alot, but it actually is. Also with the states that have 2 shows why don't they just have one instead for the florida and texas shows I wouldn't mind driving 4 hours from Houston to Dallas to see Diru or visa versa.

[Riyko]

Aoi
I wouldn't want them to come to Utah there aren't enough Diru fans here plus they'd probably never be allowed to come back because the mormon church would be offended by kyo hurting himself.

hide_my_heart
with the tickets selling on yahoo for $50 a peace people won't buy those ones yet someone will sell them on ebay for $150+ and someone will buy the tickets XD.

Since I was scanning stuff I decided I'd share the pictures I scanned of Diru. The pictures are from 1998 also
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4017/direngrey1nw2.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=direngrey1nw2.jpg)http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4408/direngrey2tg6.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=direngrey2tg6.jpg)

[Nana007]

Ever wondered how Dir en grey has ranked in Japan? Or what their highest selling singles or albums are? Well her you go http://www.oricon.co.jp/artists/6902/ That page has all that information. You can click on the single/album title and it will take you to a page where it has how many copies it sold and what it debuted @ on the Oricon charts.

Dir en greys Album Rankings in order of the best to least selling.

1) Gauze
2) Macabre
3) Kisou
4) Withering to Death
5) Vulger
6) Six Ugly
7) Kai
8) Missa

WOW the Japanese fans must have really hated Vulger because it sold less than WTD. In my Opinion Vulger > WTD.

[Rancid__]

Guess they went a little bit ahead of themselves. :okashii:
I just wanted to post this link for a great diru fanart:
http://www.diru.ru/
This girl does some amazing art!

[Aoi.]

Aoi
I wouldn't want them to come to Utah there aren't enough Diru fans here plus they'd probably never be allowed to come back because the mormon church would be offended by kyo hurting himself.


Would Kyo be offended by America then? :(

Thank you for the site, Rancid_!

lol Vulgar = WTD

My favorite album [not like anyone cares. XD] would have to be Gauze and Vulgar. Really liked the Withering to Death one though. I don't think they've gotten any worse, without the visual look. In my opinion, if the "fans" dropped Dir en Grey because they didn't do VK anymore, then they went for looks, not music. :okashii:

Does anyone else think this way, or am I just making a fool out of myself? :souka:

[daki]

Ever wondered how Dir en grey has ranked in Japan? Or what their highest selling singles or albums are? Well her you go http://www.oricon.co.jp/artists/6902/ That page has all that information. You can click on the single/album title and it will take you to a page where it has how many copies it sold and what it debuted @ on the Oricon charts.
Dir en greys Album Rankings in order of the best to least selling.
1) Gauze
2) Macabre
3) Kisou
4) Withering to Death
5) Vulger
6) Six Ugly
7) Kai
8) Missa
WOW the Japanese fans must have really hated Vulger because it sold less than WTD. In my Opinion Vulger > WTD.

i think vulgar is alot better than WTD. i used to not like the heavy style of diru too, but it's vulgar that got me addicted. the album has a more complete feel to it than wtd. wtd is good here and there, but if u listen to vulgar start to end it blows your mind.

lol Vulgar = WTD
And *no* tickets AREN'T selling on ebay either. The only one that is doing well at all is the west coast show, you'll notice that the House of Blues tickets aren't even selling for 30. I think overestimation played a big part in the US tour failure (might as well call it what it looks like sales wise) as well. Plus I think that the venues were planned in the most random places. I mean no offense to some of the people living in those areas but who the hell would want to go and see diru in some of those places, I doubt international bands that have achieved some fame such as Ramstein would have a little trouble selling out that many tours. It also couldn't hurt diru to give themselves a little advertising here and there. I think the fact that in the past their mini tours have sold out via word of mouth affected their decisions.
Orecooooooon! Shin can predict it apparently. ; - ; Diru's got to stay in biz till he turns 30 so we can wrench all of his lil secrets out no? XD I imagine there's quite a story building.
i agree. they should've maybe just do bigger cities for now and smaller venues as well. i don't think they can draw 2000 ppl at fort lauderdale (no offence). more so i odn't even think they can draw 2000 in toronto, NY, etc. a little bit too ambitious

[haru_urara]

Yeah, true, true.. Though I did like their visual kei look better though XD XD

But I think their music still rocks XP

[Nana007]

Also the tracklist for the new CD.

1. CONCEIVED SORROW
2. LIE BURIED WITH A VENGANCE
3. THE FATAL BELIEVER
4. Agitated Screams of Maggots
5. GRIEF
6. 凌辱の雨
7. DISABLED COMPLEXES
8. ROTTING ROOT
9. 艶かしき安息、躊躇いに微笑み (Tsuya ka shiki ansoku, tamerai ni hohoemi)
10. THE PLEDGE
11. REPETITION OF HATRED
12. THE DEEPER VILENESS
13. CLEVER SLEAZOID

I love those song titles.

[Saishu]

They're closing the new album with Clever Sleazoid? I wonder how different the re-recorded version is, cos at this point Clever Sleazoid isn't exactly a good song to end an album with.

[Aoi.]

I liked Clever Sleazoid, but it's so hard to sing it, because of the English lyrics/the tune of the song. I always end up slurring some of the words of just humming. :p

[dirus_ninjou]

o.O; wow.. i haven't been on here in a long time..... <.<; no internet.... v.v;

Um, wtf? >:/

Um, I'm sorry but this just seem like bragging. Why are you asking a forum full of Kyo fans? You obviously know what reaction you'll get. Why not ask people close to you that were there who would know the situation or know your own personal feelings?
that was rude. :okashii: i'm sure she wasn't trying to sound like she was bragging. she was just asking for outside opinions. i mean, asking those that -are- close to herself would have only gotten bs answers. they would have said what they think she wanted to hear.

the ones yoshiki signed after x japan broke up is not good either (honestly, have you ever heard anything about those bands??????)
you DO realize he was the one who "discovered" Dir en grey, right? I've heard quite a bit about them. :okashii: or did you forget that fact? sorry for my suddenly cruel dimeaner, but the last time i was on here, everyone was kind to one another, including the newcomers, and they weren't bashing other bands, and/or (ex)members of other bands. so, you guys want to be cruel in your posts, i'll play that game, too, except, i'll take the side of the ones being kicked.

{sorry} I know this is kind of rude butting in the middle of your conversation but..
because everyone on here knows so much about diru...i was singin machivallism {sp?} one day on kareoke and like 20 people said i sound\look just like kyo. {look as in some alternate reality he was a girl}is that a complement or an insult concidering im a girl. i took it as a coplement. but is that saying i sing/look like a man?
i wont interupt anymore -__-
honestly, you should take that whatever way you think is best. the fact that you are a girl shouldn't be the only factor that makes that statement into an insult. I mean, if just because you are a girl you can't take comparison with such a great singer, and better person to be a compliment, then i truly grieve for you. please, don't take that the wrong way. what i mean is, if you would take that to be a compliment under the circumstances that you were a guy, then why -can't- you take it as a compliment as a girl? your personality is no different, and would be no different if you were a guy, so why should your gender/sex make a difference to how you should take that? i'm sure they weren't meaning to insult you.
btw: the song is "mechaivellism". :-)

[Saishu]

I like Clever Sleazoid, it just doesn't seem like something you end an album with. It would be more fitting towards the beginning of the album. But, then again, they said they recorded a new version so maybe it fits at the end now.

[daki]

haha, exactly how i feel too, clever sleazoid would better fit as a beginning track, they did it at their it withers and withers tour.

anyways, for those in US/CAN who've ordered the new album from CDjapan, how much's the shipping for you?

[Hide My Heart]

that was rude. :okashii: i'm sure she wasn't trying to sound like she was bragging. she was just asking for outside opinions. i mean, asking those that -are- close to herself would have only gotten bs answers. they would have said what they think she wanted to hear.


Welcome back, I can't remember seeing you though? :? But to address your statement. . . I wasn't being rude I was being a lot nicer than I should have. It wasn't bragging maybe but *attention getting* at best. Why else wouldn't she just go to her lj or whatever and say hey I was compared to a guy but this guy is really handsomely feminine and can sing well, I don't think I should take offense to it but not sure cause I couldn't get a feel for the situation. If you come on a thread where you know FANS of that singer are no one is going to say "OMG like that s such a rude comment cause kyo iz shoo ugly and now u r t2!!! ha ha! "And yeah jref maybe isn't as nice as it used to be because honestly everyone's loosing there patience now a days because of certain things being said that are so off topic, blatantly obvious, and repetitive. I apologize if what I said earlier upset you but I'm so tired of coming on here and finding weeboish comments. Someone came here and posted something to the effect of "how weird is it that girls can cross dress and guys cant a hyuk hyuk". Like wtf? I think if you're on a thread for a band that has a history of cross dressing then its safe to assume that the others around you already have made note of the fact that they to realize this, know its strange and have therefore gathered on a thread to talk with people who are like minded. There have also been a number of posts about things that could have been resolved if people took 3 fing second to click on a website, or a number of posts coming on just to inform everyone else that they have nothing to contribute to the conversation. Wtf? If you dont have anything to say dont come on here to tell us that! Yeah the thread used to be a lot happier when people had something fun to say and had things they wanted to share with the other members. Even when it was off topic it was still coming from the hearts of people who had an honest interest in the band and not from a bunch of 15 year olds who thought the members were soooo hot or how wacky it is that the world has double standards or "ooh my gosh u guyz! i was compaired to a hot guy, how should i take this????".

And boobiebutt if you'll remember we were freaking out about the LA concert - none of the others. And if I remember correctly you said that worry about the LA concert was a bit justified yourself so *shhhh*. BUt yeah we did freak out a little more than necissary no? :relief:
And as for the music stuff (which is what were all here to discuss), I agree with Saishu. It doesn't seem like a song that brings a feeling of a sure ending to an album. Then again I don't have the album in my hands at the moment so its hard to say what the new feel i , maybe that idea of leaving you reaching for something in their music is something they want to play with. The new lyrics seem to evoke a feeling of emptyness so I think ending with an unfinished last sound might be something thats interesting to experiment with. Obviousley the placement of tracks on an album is an art unto its self (look at Gauze) so I trust that somehow it fits into the bigger picturem keeping in mind that innitially I think albums are supposed to be viewed the first time as a complete work of art, a magnum opus of the band from first to last wthout interruption to really get a feel for it, so track placement can really move or slow down a listening and muddle the message of the album. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Nana007]

Dir en grey is releasing a New Album titled Marrow of the bone. You can preorder it now. Release is on Feb. 7.

[Kinsao]

Karmik translated an interesting Dir en grey interview from a Finnish magazine:
http://community.livejournal.com/akamushi/6135.html?view=18935#t18935

We have a very peculiar lot here

^ :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Hide My Heart]

XD Thanks so much Kinsao!

Welcome to our new member IkaruJaki! :-)

[PANTS]

HAHA great interview. I love the how the interviewer describes each band member. Very funny. He seems really confused. I loved it. Thanks for sharing!!!

[Champloo]

I don't really know if I will be getting this cd. I wasn't too impressed by Agitated Screams of Maggots. ;/

[IkaruJaki]

thanks for the welcome Hide.

And thanks for posting the interview Kinsao.

I loved the Pocket-sized thing they said about Kyo.

[Nana007]

The single ASOM is going to have an american release. FYE will sell it
exclusively for $9.99. I already have the 1st press Japanese version.
But most likely for them I will buy it, to support them.

I wonder if it will get U.S airplay...probally not.

Singles don't do well in the U.S though...I hope they don't expect much
of sales.

[IkaruJaki]

Where did you hear about the release Nana?

Oh, and so sorry to hear about you trip.

[mikichan]

wow,they have a single coming out too ... omg, dir en grey`s gonna make me go broke!!!!!!!!!

i loved that article!! thanks so much for posting it!! it made me laugh, which is always good!!

[Kaine]

new dir en grey shows added??? um... seriously!?

[Precious4e]

^ Yea I just read the Free Will newsletter thing. Cali is awfully lucky....



Due to the increased demand we are pleased the announce that two additional tour dates have been added for Dir en grey's North American tour.

Dir en grey Tour07 Inward Scream (new dates)
2/24/2007 - Los Angeles, CA at the Avalon
2/25/2007 - San Francisco, CA at The Filmore

Tickets go on sale Thursday 12/21 at 5pm. There will also be an advance ticket sale for these concerts on Monday 12/18 at 5pm. However only a very limited number of tickets will be offered during the advance ticket sale

[Saishu]

If Agitated Screams of Maggots gets airplay in the States, will they edit the swearing out even though you can't tell Kyo is swearing?

[Hide My Heart]

Argh! I got that email too when I logged on today. My first thought before I saw the locations was "how disconnected is this band from reality", but personally I think financially this will be a good move. However! Aren't they pushing themselves a little hard? Remember last time they were completely wiped out after only going to TX NY CA, look at that tour schedule

[Kaine]

shrugs... i think they're seriously going to work themselves to death... even before adding the two shows, thats a hell lot to perform in the span of those few days

[nekkyo]

-_-; Diru already did make me go broke! T_T No more shows! I can't go to them... Ok well I'm already going to three and that is it! no more!

[Nana007]

Actually I think them adding more shows to the west coast is good, as alot of the westcoast fans were complaining about the lack of shows.

[Nana007]

Whoa...someone resently sent me some of Dir en grey's earlier songs. And I have a live recording of the Original versions of Cage and Raison D'etre...they sound so different... I like the Raison D'etre though, its really Bass heavy.

[Hide My Heart]

They did do a survey and it was up online for a loooong time so they had an opportunity to gather a lot of info. The only thing was that the prospect of getting diru in the states seemed so far off that a lot of people exaggerated how far or how many of them there were. Plus they only asked how far WOULD you travel not how far COULD you travel. Keep in mind diru's fans are pretty much in a certain age group and that age group is weighed down by a lot of constraints when it comes to traveling.

[Riyko]

They did do a survey and it was up online for a loooong time so they had an opportunity to gather a lot of info. The only thing was that the prospect of getting diru in the states seemed so far off that a lot of people exaggerated how far or how many of them there were. Plus they only asked how far WOULD you travel not how far COULD you travel. Keep in mind diru's fans are pretty much in a certain age group and that age group is weighed down by a lot of constraints when it comes to traveling.
Did free will america do the survery? I don't ever remember seeing a survery on FWA's site for diru at all except after the showcase tour and FVT if the survery was else where then I never saw it. I know the age range for Diru fans, but with the whole tour they could of honestly rethought everything and where they we're going to perform at, I think what they did is just got the biggest venues possible and booked diru to perform there. Honestly they should of planned this tour out more then just a month after FVT ended and decided to bring Diru back. With some of the venues they knew they'd be close to selling out, with with Toronto for instant by the fan base that was at FVT for diru they assumed they'd get close to filling up a venue that can hold 1600 people. I honestly don't even know 1600 diru fans that live up in canada so a smaller venue would be nice.

I just don't want Diru to be dissapointed when they go to some of the venues and see that their really quite empty because they venues were too big for their fan base in that state. *shrugs*

I'm not trying to argue so please no one think that it's just a matter of opinion.

[Precious4e]

Well seeing as how the management should have all the info on sales I hope they are basing their judgment on the sales they see. We can't know for sure that there aren't that many fans out there or if there aren't just random people who want to see them. I know some people who would go to see Diru just because they are interested but they aren't the hugest fans. But if they are just booking shows thinking that they are going to sell without info to back it up, then there might be some disappointment.

[Riyko]

^ I do agree and i hope that they did do some research into the places they booked venues at. With some of the shows they can't really determine if there are alot of fans or not, but at other shows it seems like the venues might be a little to big.

A friend of mine just got a ticket for the toronto show and it's only GA1 seat 9, i'm not sure how many seats there are exactly for each section, but if it's 100 then they've only sold 109 tickets off of ticketmaster. Then add the music today ticket sales of lets say 200 tickets that's 309 tickets sold for the toronto show so there is 1291 tickets still available for the toronto show.

that is what I was trying to get at earlier ^^;

[Hide My Heart]

Welcome to our newest member dorikura! :-)

*side note : guys get off your butts and give the new members a wave! I refuse to be the only one doing it, come on and show your manners with your happy*

And yes there is bound to be some disappointment on this tour, its unavoidable at this point. Hopefully however they won't see this as means to throw in the towel and walk away but only a info to rebuild there strategy for when they hopefully return.

And as for the survey . . . . ummmm. I can't remember where it was. *laughs* It might have been on Free Will but most likely it was not. Maybe it was on one of those petition websites? But if I remember correctly it was being done by people who had an actual connection to the band. shrug.

[nekkyo]

The only survey I remember was on the FWA website after the tour in Feb? or FVT? It had that sort of questions as to how much you'd travel and stuff. There was also a prize at the end. I hardly remember it now though.

Hi new members!!! ^_^;;; I'm quite slow at noticing new members since I tend to be in and out a lot. But welcome to our little Diru fan family!

[Hide My Heart]

A prize? Was that the family values thing? Yeah this one was pretty basic stuff too "how far would you travel" "what is your favorite album?" "what are your 3 fav songs?" "what merch would you like to see?" Only this was up on the web for YEARS! :dizzy:

[Riyko]

XD I don't even realize that new members enter the topic oops. Was that survey on jpophouse? now that i think of it there was a survey on jpophouse.

I do hope if the venues aren't very full diru's management company or the place that books the venues will learn and book smaller venues to have a better chance of selling out. For me it's dangerious at the Diru concert in Toronto since they'll be serving alcoholic beverages for anyone 19+ X_X i'll wind up getting a drink or two unless their really expensive then i'll pass.

[pixy_false]

What! 2 new shows! Where have I been?! :clueless: Stupid holidays are stressing me out!!!


Well, I guess I might as well got to the Avalon show since I'll be in the city anyway.

Oh umm hi new members!! :wave:

[Angel_belial]

I heard that Dir en grey are doing a Tour in the States in Febuary. >.>;;; I have the so called Tour dates, if you want I could post them later.

[IkaruJaki]

Angel the February tour is what we've been talking about.

As for the venues not all being sell outs yet adding dates it does make sense. Cause if you all remember last year when they were doing their, i guess you would call it a preview tour, they moved the California show to a larger venues based on the ticket sales there and how the new york show sold out so fast.

As for the survey thing I remember filling one out a while a go. And it did ask how far you'd be willing to go to see them. I think the problem came up when people filled out these insane distances with out considering the reality of going that far (cost of transportation, people to go with you, and time off from school/work/etc.).

And I'm sure that those in Diru's management and at Warcon know what they are doing and have warned the boys about potentially having some less then stellar crowds. Besides I'm thinking they went through the same stuff getting into the european music scene.

OK this is a lot longer then I intended so that's it for now.

[Hide My Heart]

I can't remember if I said welcome to Angel_belial and IkaruJaki yet . . . :? If not welcome! :wave:

IkaruJaki brings up a good point and one I have to agree with, I am sure that Diru's management is aware that there might not be that big of a turn out but up until now they've had such sucess I suppose this was a less of a gamble in their minds.

[Riyko]

Ikarujaki
I do agree with some points that you said, but with some of the venues they should of booked smaller, that's what I was trying to say earlier and they also shouldn't of booked venues that weren't really needed. Hmm how to better put this.

California they have 3 shows there now 2 in LA 1 in San Fran, alot of the people who we're going to the LA show that live in northern cali are selling their tickets to the first LA show to go to the one in San Fran so now they could get rid of the 2nd LA show they added because the 1st one won't be as packed. Another one is the 2 in Texas just have one, but at the bigger venue. Then there is the Colorado and Arizona, they could of easily solved that by instead of having shows in 2 different states have the show in New Mexico so it's equal distance for people to travel. The Toronto show could honestly stand to be at a smaller venue it holds 1600 people and say they only sell 500 tickets that's still 1100 tickets that they didn't sell where they could of had a smaller venue that would be easier to fill up.

That's just how I would of done it if I was the venue booker for Diru and then if I saw a need to add more shows because the demand of people wanting to see them then a new show would be added at a smaller venue.

[IkaruJaki]

I'm not sure how much of the booking was Diru's people. I'm thinking it was more Warcon's advice/doing.

I just hope they have a good tour here, and they can expand their fan base stateside.
Also, aren't they doing a tour in Japan now?

[whosthere]

Hello !!!

I'm a newbie and I'm just wondering if there are any pages specifically on Die from diru. Sorry if there already is, there are so many pages that it is taking me forever to read them.hahaha

Thanks,
Have a great day guys!!!!

[Riyko]

I'm not sure how much of the booking was Diru's people. I'm thinking it was more Warcon's advice/doing.

I just hope they have a good tour here, and they can expand their fan base stateside.
Also, aren't they doing a tour in Japan now?

Actually Warcon didn't do any of the booking it's FWA who does the booking for Diru, because Warcon is just their American record label and FWA is their American management ^^ I hope that makes sense.

I think they'll have a good tour, but they might get a bit worn out during the tour because of all the traveling they'll be doing.

I believe they might be done with their Japanese tour now, but they still could have 1 more show left.

Hello whosthere and welcome to the thread ^^ i'm not quite sure if there are any specific page about Die, but if you want to know anything about Die you can just ask and someone will answer it ^^

[whosthere]

Hey, Thanks for the welcome. I've just been reading through some pages. It's a good thread (^_^)

I was after any interviews with Die or any information on him really. He is a brilliant guitarist.

Any information is welcome.

Thanks heaps

[Hide My Heart]

Hey whosthere! Welcome to the diru forum! :wave: Hrm, well I'm not sure if there are any interviews with JUST Die (since they're a group :P) but I'd check out regular diru fan sites first and then scour through their interview sections to see what die has to say.

Does Kurai do diru translations? :? of only MM? Could've sworn she did them too, if so I'd check with her.

[whosthere]

Hey whosthere! Welcome to the diru forum! :wave: Hrm, well I'm not sure if there are any interviews with JUST Die (since they're a group :P) but I'd check out regular diru fan sites first and then scour through their interview sections to see what die has to say.
Does Kurai do diru translations? :? of only MM? Could've sworn she did them too, if so I'd check with her.


Ok, thanks :-) I have checked some of the sites and have only managed to find 2 interviews that were translated to english :( Do you have any favourite sites that I can check out. Thanks for your help, much appreciated:disco:

[Nana007]

Live Report.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=46880946&blogID=207333886&MyToken=82af4cee-08ac-46ff-993f-e65f5213c55d

Also I didn't post it in the blog. But since you are talking about it... the Zepp Fukuoka holds 1500 and was not sold out at all. The whole second row balconey which is seated was empty, and the floor wasn't even that full. So I doubt they are going to cry over not selling out in the U.S especially since they aren't really selling out in their home country. Although the 2 lives added to the tour...they sold out already and they have only been announced like 2days ago. But thats because one of them is a Countdown live. Which is a new years live. And you countdown the New Year with the band.

[tomomi]

hi ppl,

where can i get a bigger version of this picture of kaoru and die?

thanks!

[Hide My Heart]

Wow they didn't even sell out the Zepp? :shock: Things are . . . not as well as I imagined them then. Thats just - er, well . . . >.>

The show sounded AMAZING Nana. lol What a lucky girl you are to have Kyos water bottle! *holds up Kao pic woo yeah XD* Being gaijin in a show can have some serious ups yes? Especially if you're that close to the stage. But its a little strange they didn't play any of their new stuff? What the --? That's kind of a recycled concert since its mostly old things!

[Nana007]

They played 3 new songs. One of which was the Fatal Believer, and one song I don't know the title, but it was on the Budoukan rip.

[Saishu]

I imagine they didn't play a lot of new stuff because Marrow of a Bone isn't out for another month and a half. One of the main focuses of the tour in February is to promote the new album.

And I guess Gazette is the hot band of the moment in Japan right now. Just look on this forum; the Gazette thread has more posts in it than this one.

[Hide My Heart]

Yeah but most of the time when a band tours before a new album its customary to play the new stuff or stuff from the last album released. This just seems desperate. Boo hoo hoo. Diru's finally on its way out. ; ~ ;

And yeah of course Gazette is hot. They're younger, got great songs, a lot of energy and most importantly are fresh compared to a bunch of other bands who have been around forever. (kai <3)

[Nana007]

Well its too soon to start promoting the new CD in lives. And as far as old songs. Yes they did play alot of WTD songs, but they changed it up ALOT. Kyo changed the lyrics to at LEAST 3 songs. Even　the music was changed a bit, with the guitars and bass being slightly different. I definately did not feel like it was the Same Old thing. Not at all.

Also Kyo doesn't scratch or fishhook anymore,　he has this new thing which is just...OMG so intense. Like really.

[Hide My Heart]

No scratching and no fishhooking? o.O I . . . I must know what it is! PM me and tell me please???

[Nana007]

I can't spoil it for you. You have to wait until Feb. But it is OMG SO intense.

[zHen_ji]

Nana007: no scratching or fishhooking!? plase tell us what it is!? ONEGAI?

maybe Diru is on a rocky terrain every band has its problems...they lose their touch then eventuallly gets back up....

[Precious4e]

Nana: now you're making me curious lol. As if Diru wasn't intense enough...now its even more intense? Can't wait til feb!!

[daki]

good to hear they change the arrangement to their songs at lives. afterall it's been awihle since they play the WTD/vulgar setlist, always nice to add some new spark. gets me hype up for the toronto show.

[Hide My Heart]

Nana's incited something dangerous! lol Ah, if I were her now that I've looked back on it I wouldn't tell us either since Diru asks its fans not to tell others what goes on at their lives. * - * Being a respectful fan is so hard some times (I still wanna know too). In fact I suppose respecting a band is one of the hardest things a fan can really do. Not when it comes to respecting them as musicians but concerning what they ask of their fans and their private life. *sigh* I still can't count how much diru yaoi is flowing around the internet *shakes head*. Normally I wouldn't care too much about what smut people write but since diru has specifically stated they don't like is doing it it makes me a bit upset when I still see the teeny bopers doing things like that. I dunno, what do you guys think?

[Nana007]

Its really hard to explain. Thats why I don't. Its vocal, some noises he makes. But it is like OMG intense, and in one song he started crying. Not the sobbing of Mushi and Zakuro but this weird really angsty crying. Its hard to explain.

[Precious4e]

^ Interesting.

Oh yea Saku won for Best Video for Headbanger's Ball. Woot!

[Hide My Heart]

yeah go diru!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:silly: :happy: :dance:

[pinkbuta304]

hey!!! Isn't it Die's Birthday?!?!!!
whooo! Happy Birthday to Die!!! :confetti:
Im gonna have a drink to celebrate! :beer:
:gulp:

[daki]

for those who're going to the toronto show, i received my tickets today. if u haven't it is on the way!

[Hide My Heart]

Got to makes the monies! $$$$ *rubs fingers*

Personally I'd like to see them take a break from doin SO many tours and just turn inward and focus on doing their creative stuff. Maybe get their center back.

[Riyko]

I agree with you Hide_My_Heart, they do need a break from touring they have a break from now until Feburary, unless their going to be doing some [a knot] only shows in japan in january. I think after march they should take a break until about June or July so they can actually rest.

[whosthere]

hey guys. I'm kinda new to this forum. Just wanted to say I have been reading the threads and I love the discussions you guys have :cool:

I was wondering if anybody has the Vulgar chat transcripts with Die and his fans. Would be much appreciated if somebody could post them :-)

[whosthere]

hi haru urara!!! Thanks for the welcome. It's nice to meet you :-)

My friend and I are just discussing if this pic is DIE. I don't think it is. I have seen other pics but I forget where I have seen them. Either way, he has a nice @$$ (can I say that here :blush: )

Let me know what you all think. If anybody knows who's bottom this actually belongs to it will be a help.:cool:

Thanks again for the welcome guys :-)

[Riyko]

whosthere
That is Sugio ex luna sea ^_^ people think it's Die, but it's not.

[whosthere]

ok thanks. I didnt think it was die either.... I win the bet with my friend.hahaha

[Nana007]

My God. Was Yesterday nasty. The weather. It was storming all day, like seriously. It was also the Dir en grey Zepp Tokyo live. Which since my airline sucks, makes it the last live I could see in Japan.

So I woke up, laid in bed for a bit, and just moved very slowly,as my futon was warm and comfortable. I finally got dressed. Met up with M in Shinjuku, Took some PuriKura and then ate and headed to the Zepp.

The Zepp is near this Toyota place, where you can look at all the models, the prototypes and do simulations and some different stuff. So we got our coin lockers and went and drank some Hot Chocolate and hung around in the Toyota place, with all the other fans who didnt want to be out in the wet miserable COLD rain.

Finally the Dreaded moment of taking our Jackets off and putting them into the coin lockers came (like I said in my other report you go in with nothing but your self and ticket, you CAN wear a jacket but you would die of overheating). Also even in this weather the girls still dressed like it was no summer.

So M and I and all the other fans are out there in the COLD FREEZING RAIN with just jeans T-Shirts or in some cases in SHORTS. Freezing our asses off under the umbrellas waiting for them to call our numbers. And it is raining so hard and so much that even with my 2 pairs of socks, the water seeped into my tennis shoes. So yep now it standing outside in the COLD FREEZING RAIN with just my ticket, my umbrella, jeans and a t-shirt and waterlogged shoes...PERFECT. But Hey at least I HAD an umbrella, you had poor souls out there with NONE. They looked liked drowned rats.

Finally the call our numbers (215 & 216) and let us in. YES Finally Out of the cold...but still wet. So I run to Die's side and was like 3rd row, and M stood a bit father off and got second row. And then you waited...About ten minutes before the band came out the pushing began. It wasnt bad just a bit uncomfortable...Little did I know thats just the anticipation pushing and not the actual pushing during the show.

So the band comes out, no G.D.S (Are they done with it...NOOOOO! I liked G.D.S) and then the real pushing begans. Oh Yea FEEL THE PAIN. I am not one for Setlists at all. But here is what I remember:

Opened with: The Final

Closed with: Clever Sleazoid

Kodou

Saku

Obscure

Garbage

Fatal Believer

1 New Song

ASoM

Shokubeni

IIIrd Empire.

Dead Tree.

Ryoujoku no Ame

And some more...

As far as what they were wearing, I really couldnt see Kaoru and Toshiya, but I know for the encore Toshiya put the scarf on his head. Kyo took off his shirt fairly quickly in both the encore and set (smiles). And thats all I can remember.

As for the show itself...it was...not bad but a bit off...Fukuoka was so much better. Die seemed Mad about something. During one song he was thrashing around so much that he fell into the amp stack and knocked two of them down.

During Saku Kyo, had a repeat of Toronto but he didnt get hurt this time. Thank God, and um..what else...After the show they threw some stuff and walked off, although Kyo was the last to leave the stage.

Also like in Fukuoka Kyo changed the lyrics to a couple of songs, including Dead Tree. And The arrangement was changed a bit. I noticed it mostly during Shokubeni. Kyo did fishhook. And during the Final he took a razor to his stomach.

Thats about all I can remember. Considering the one thing that was going through my head was probally "Don't Faint, Don't Faint, Don't Faint..." Because I was getting pushed and pulled and just was all over the place. I mean, it was really bad the pushing. Or at least IMO. But afterwards M was like...well you know they were kind of mild tonight with the pushing and I was like MILD!!! WTF!! If thats MILD I dont want to see them Full Force. But Lucky for Me I didnt faint, and I did manage to stay in the front until the encore. Where I was like ****it I am out of here.

But During Obscure the girl in front of me fainted and had to be pulled out. I wish I could have stayed at the front longer. But I stayed up there longer than I did at the Budokan, at the Budokan I lasted the 3 songs. Here I lasted the wholes set and the 1st song of the encore.

But it was like during the encore, they fans got even worse because they knew the end was over. And it was when the played Machevillism when I said I need out, so I backed out and stood a bit farther back where I could BREATHE. I really did want to stay in the front. But Because I am in the front, if you faint you get pulled out, towards the stage. And I did not want to have to get pulled out and the band sees me...LOL.

Oh and BTW Fukuoka was not bad at all. But then the show wasnt sold out, and it wasnt even packed in the front. Not at all. You could move around, dance headbang...at Tokyo, Nuh Uh Nothing.

So afterwards we had to get our stuff, and went to eat in Shibuya at this really nice Taiwanese resturant. Then I went back to my hotel. And stripped of my wet clothes and went to sleep.

And I woke up early to catch my train to Osaka, and feel like total ****, like I am coming down with a cold.

Also It bears REPEATING. But if You were one of the little fangirls crying about the pushing being bad. Then You NEVER need to see Dir en grey in Japan. Not Unless you stand in the back or the side.

Or even the pushing at ANY U.S J-Rock Concert. Because you will not last 5 songs. The Pushing BEFORE the show was about the same as how the Avalon was DURING the show.

[Saishu]

I'm a little disappointed that Kyo still resorts to theatrics with blood. I love the crazy little guy to death, but I really could care less about the visual shock he goes for.

Really, Kyo, you've kind of got my attention when you threaten to "f*** my parents" and "rape my daughter on my grave," you don't need to spill blood everywhere.

[Nana007]

He didnt cut or fishhook at Fukuoka.

[andie]

the razor thingy kinda creeps me out but despite that i must say that kyo really has a very beautiful voice,but with regards to his actions,i am kinda shocked

[haru_urara]

yah andie XD I know what you mean XDDD But I got used to it XDDD

[Precious4e]

Thanks for the report Nana. Sounds hectic! Hahaha strange because another JRefer who went to a D'espa concert in Yokohama said the crowds were quite orderly. Hahaha maybe it depends on the shows. But I want to go to Japan and see Diru if possible one day.

But now i'm just counting down the days til Feb. The waiting sucks.

[Nana007]

I went to a Dir show in Fukuoka that was quite orderly. It was Tokyo that was Crazy.

[Pink Usagi Chan]

Nana007, I can completely agree with you about the weather. Terrible terrible rain. :shiver: And hopefully you won't catch a cold, because after that day, I had the worst cold I've ever had (and still have).

Hahaha strange because another JRefer who went to a D'espa concert in Yokohama said the crowds were quite orderly

They were. I was kind of surprised, with all the things I've heard about crowds at lives. I swear nobody moved once they found somewhere to stand in the beginning of the show. I guess I was just lucky.

[Riyko]

drain away
Dir en grey got the #1 spot on Headbangers ball for the best rock metal video of 2006 based on peoples votes.

Bloodlust
I don't know how to get to either of those venues sorry =/. The only venue I know how to get to is the Wiltern in LA.

[Saishu]

Cover art for Marrow of a Bone is on Dir en grey's official site in the releases section.

Also, the bonus disc included with the limited edition looks like it will only have three songs on it and they aren't classical arrangements, they're unplugged. Which, I'm assuming, means they're acoustic versions. Unless it's some sort of translation error, I'm a little disappointed that I won't get to hear symphonic versions of Diru's music.

Oh well, I still can't wait.

[drain_away]

Riyko: i thought so. i'm so glad, i voted like a million times. it's a great source of publicity for Diru, so i wanted them to win. glad my votes paid off. :D
Bloodlust: i don't know either, sorry. :relief: i only know how to get to the wiltern too, lol.

[Precious4e]

Cover art for Marrow of a Bone is on Dir en grey's official site in the releases section.
Also, the bonus disc included with the limited edition looks like it will only have three songs on it and they aren't classical arrangements, they're unplugged. Which, I'm assuming, means they're acoustic versions. Unless it's some sort of translation error, I'm a little disappointed that I won't get to hear symphonic versions of Diru's music.
Oh well, I still can't wait.

I can't wait either. I like the cover for the limited release. It's very simple and slick. I haven't heard any of their new songs (I didn't download the clips from their inward scream or rock im shows) so i'm very excited to see what kind of songs they are coming out with.

[daki]

i jsut preordered my copy of the new album. altho the bonus disc is now unplugged instaed of classical, i still can't wait. other than headbanging and screaming, diru used to have a clamer side in their music. i miss dir en grey's unplug stuff, songs like undecided were more than well done but have disappeared for a while in their music.

[Dutch Baka]

Okay, because the Music forum is actually the only place where people really use the thread as a chat box, we have to be more strickt. If you want to chat with someone, use the chatbox, or the pm.

I will be deleting messages if they thread is being used as the chatbox.

[Bloodlust]

So... we can't talk about stuff related to Diru (even if only mildly) so we talk about nothing? I didn't think we went off topic too badly (OK, a couple of times).
So lets talk about something. Does anyone know what they are doing at the moment?
This thread has been dead since the moderators post people! We should pick it up!

[andie]

So... we can't talk about stuff related to Diru (even if only mildly) so we talk about nothing? I didn't think we went off topic too badly (OK, a couple of times).
So lets talk about something. Does anyone know what they are doing at the moment?
This thread has been dead since the moderators post people! We should pick it up!


i think the argument regarding what should be posted on threads is very vague since artists' thread serve as a vehicle for fans to express their enthusiasm for their fave artists and it is also serves as a bridge for fans to communicate with other fans,express their opinions,fraternize because there are fans out there who has only this thread to express their fondness and feelings to their fave artists,some of them have people around them who cannot understand their profound likeness to jrock bands since their music is not played globally unlike american artists.


in my own opinion,as long as fans discuss matters,issues,exchange opinions about their fave jrock band it is PERTINENT unless they use this thread to promote disagreement,violence and other unrelated topics.a little off topic conversations would be harmless.

[Riyko]

It is, but if you saw how offtopic the gazette thread was I don't blame them for saying that in almost all of the threads.

Bloodlust
Dir en grey is probably resting unless they have some [a knot] only lives in january, but from what I know there isn't any [a knot] only lives in january. Their also preparing for the North America tour.

[Rancid__]

Any new Diru videos? I watched the censored version of their video Agitated screams of maggots and it was in a word: freaky. I'm just interested is there anything else out and does anyone have the uncensored version?

[Precious4e]

Any new Diru videos? I watched the censored version of their video Agitated screams of maggots and it was in a word: freaky. I'm just interested is there anything else out and does anyone have the uncensored version?
The uncensored version should be on youtube. Besides that there's nothing new.

[Nana007]

http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hng3323pf0.jpg Die riding the Superman Ride Of Steel ride at Six Flags...although you cant really tell its him...he has his face covered lolz...he looks scared lol...

[haru_urara]

OMG nana XDDDD That picture is funny XDDDD
Thanks! XD

[Nana007]

He was on the Ride of Steel. There are like 6 different Superman Rollercoasters.
Die was on the Superman Ride of Steel at Darian Lake.

[whosthere]

Any new news on Diru? Anyone know what they are up to at the moment?

[Precious4e]

Ahaha that Superman pic is great. Poor Die he does look kinda loopy. Where are the rest of Diru? They should have went too! I have yet to ride any of the Supermans. I'll get to it one day.

[Precious4e]

Not sure if anyone has read this interview with Kyo before. I found it on another forum.

http://bleeding-idol.org/reads/interviews/fools-mate-2005/

Kyo is brutally honest. I like reading his interviews.

[andie]

i admire kyo's voice and in my opinion they are the best band in japan but i kinda dont like kyo's attitude.but still respect the guy though coz of his talent

[dorikura]

"Hahaha, never, If I were ordinary with a normal sense, I would feel so. Or, might think it’s glad….But though I’m catching on now, how would they respond when I appear in front of them in a couple of decades? I just wanna see only hard core-fans who will keep on looking at me whatever happens to me. In other words, those who can open their legs and show pussy only to me have a right to stay with me. I never wanna get along with any sluts and crazy people who can say easily they like both my own band and some other bands which I hate. They should not cheer me up any more. I wanna **** up their lives and drive them into hell ’cause they know nothing about what the real music is."

Man this was mean!But I love his honesty!And it's kind of his style but many people sayes that he is quite diferent than this!Dono what to think!But if he is trying to be cool he really succeed in it!

[Child_prey]

Hahahahahahaha!! :D :D :D KYO IS SUCH A B****!!:D
I love how he diminishes all of the elitists and fangirl/boys! :cool: :cool:

[Nana007]

I never wanna get along with any sluts and crazy people who can say easily they like both my own band and some other bands which I hate. They should not cheer me up any more. I wanna **** up their lives and drive them into hell ’cause they know nothing about what the real music is."


OMG LOL. This reminds me of a story I heard. It was an older Dir en grey fan. Who sadly is no longer a fan...sigh. But anyways she used to see them in Japan and was a hardcore Kyo fan. Like Superhardcore. She even got the crown tattoo and his name tatood on her wrist.

Now she used to go to the shows in the old days when they had ParaPara. And she would always stand in front of him. Now as her love for Dir starting to dissapear, her love for a new up an coming band NIGHTMARE start to grow. And she even got the katakan nightmare tatooed on her wrist.

Now one day she went to a Dir live and got lucky to get a good ticket, so she got like front row. And she was standing in front of Kyo. So she is standing in front of Kyo doing the para para...and He sees her wrists with the tatoos. AND when he saw it, he got SO Mad that he walked away from her, and didnt even go by the stage where she was for the rest of the night.

[Precious4e]

^ aW. Hahaha so I guess he really was serious about that in the interview.

[Bloodlust]

What the heck is she doing getting tattoos like that in the first place? Silly. How would you feel if some stranger showed up with your name permanently stamped on their body? I don't think I'd be too impressed either. It's creepy.

I appreciate his honesty. My job dictates that I cannot say all of the things I'd like to out loud if I want to stay employed. I envy (really hate that word) him for being in a position where he can say what's on his mind. I hope more than 1 in 1000 get his message too. I think it's worth listening to. (says the girl who speaks no Japanese)

BTW what does kawaii mean? I thought I knew but now I'm not sure.

[Precious4e]

^Kawaii = cute. Sounds similar to kowai which means scary. I used to get them confused. Hahaah Kyo is both kawaii and kowai.

[Nana007]

What the heck is she doing getting tattoos like that in the first place? Silly. How would you feel if some stranger showed up with your name permanently stamped on their body? I don't think I'd be too impressed either. It's creepy.


Its a bit creepy. But ALOT of people get tatoos that is simular or inspired by an idol of theirs. I would never do it but some people do. And he didnt walk away because it was creepy. I mean he saw the tatoo before. He walked away from her because she had a Nightmare tatoo on her other wrist.

[MissMurder]

Not sure if anyone has read this interview with Kyo before. I found it on another forum.

http://bleeding-idol.org/reads/interviews/fools-mate-2005/

Kyo is brutally honest. I like reading his interviews.


Kyo is one very bitter young man

[Bloodlust]

Its a bit creepy. But ALOT of people get tatoos that is simular or inspired by an idol of theirs. I would never do it but some people do. And he didnt walk away because it was creepy. I mean he saw the tatoo before. He walked away from her because she had a Nightmare tatoo on her other wrist.

I'll never understand it. Tattoos don't go away; what if she ends up hating them?
So he'd actually seen her before this show and didn't mind the ink? Maybe he hates Nightmare... Still think it's an odd way to show your affection for someone, famous or not. My tats are inspired by me. I think that's how it should be.
And thanks for the kawaii info. I hear Kyo despises being called that. God do I understand where he's coming from! I get it constantly no matter how hard I try to be scary! You know, unless I'm really trying to be scary! And Kyo is scary... that's one of the things I like about him.

[otaku623]

Hey...yea, sorry! I don't mean to mess with any type of flow you might have going, but I did just get the new single from Dir en Grey and I have the lyrics typed out if you want them. The song is called Agitated Screams of Maggots, and the lyrics made me laugh...listening to the song made me laugh even more because you can't really understand what Kyo's trying to say, unless you have the lyrics. It's amazing!

[Riyko]

For any of you going to the LAST 4 Shows. http://blog.myspace.com/fyeevents
Its going to be crazy...
Aww damn too bad it's for the wrong LA show. i could always go to the dallas show with my dad and the 2 guys he lives with. Oh god that would be an experience of a lifetime haha.

The first 100 people who bought their new album at those 4 shows will be lucky =). If it is true that Korn wants Diru to join them on FVT again this year maybe Diru will, I think it would be cool but it's if they want to put up with what happened last year at FVT. (I don't know how true that is since i've seen it posted at a couple of places including the korn fanclub message board, but that is if)

[Thirteen]

OMG LOL. This reminds me of a story I heard. It was an older Dir en grey fan. Who sadly is no longer a fan...sigh. But anyways she used to see them in Japan and was a hardcore Kyo fan. Like Superhardcore. She even got the crown tattoo and his name tatood on her wrist.
Now she used to go to the shows in the old days when they had ParaPara. And she would always stand in front of him. Now as her love for Dir starting to dissapear, her love for a new up an coming band NIGHTMARE start to grow. And she even got the katakan nightmare tatooed on her wrist.
Now one day she went to a Dir live and got lucky to get a good ticket, so she got like front row. And she was standing in front of Kyo. So she is standing in front of Kyo doing the para para...and He sees her wrists with the tatoos. AND when he saw it, he got SO Mad that he walked away from her, and didnt even go by the stage where she was for the rest of the night.
WOW. :lol: I am a Kyo fan but I wouldn't do anything to piss him off. Then again I don't like Para Para :okashii: I wouldn't get a tattoo either, just because that is a little 'extreme' to show love. Just going to concerts and showing the love for music is my respect for them :-)

[Nana007]

Wahhhh! Samples of the New CD is up...and I must say it is LOVE.

[Precious4e]

^Yea the song is nice. He sings ^^

And i'm glad that they aren't doing the meet and greet thing at my show.. I really don't want to see what will happen when people start fighting for the first 100 spaces.

[Bloodlust]

I agree. Americans can be jerks! I'm kidding! I'm Canadian, eh. But I think it could turn into a riot if they're not careful! I'm just gonna see the band perform, love every minute of it and go from there. I'm such a geek I'll probably just go back to my hotel and sleep!

[pixy_false]

I have to say I'm liking the songs so far. The clip for Disabled Complexes ends just when it's getting good. Dammit.

[Nana007]

I think this cd is going to be love.

[Precious4e]

^Yea...I was a little skeptical at first but the two clips they posted are awesome. Especially Disabled Complexes. And I already love Ryoujoku no ame. So now i'm just so excited to hear how the rest of the songs sound like.
you think they will play their new songs during the tour?

[Saishu]

you think they will play their new songs during the tour?


I'd think so. The tour starts pretty much the same time the album is being released, so I'm thinking they're touring in support of Marrow of a Bone now.

[dorikura]

Sorry if this was posted...i'm new here so GOMEN!!!

Diru facts:

1.When Shinya first saw kyo at a concert of Shinya's band he was surprised that young children were there

2.Shinya's mom helped him practise with his first make-up, but his parents are also very strict

3.Conversation between Toshiya and shinya only really started at first, when Shinya found out Toshiya had just gotten his driver's lisence. Shinya was just getting his and asking questions

4.Kyo is very stubborn. When he fought with his grandfather as a kid he said he would leave the house, but was told to leave the clothes because he had not bought them, then. kyo stood outside right before snowfall, naked [awesome], for three hours until his parents came and apologized.

5.Toshiya once got hit so badly by his father, that he could not get up afterwards and went to hospital the next day. Poor Totchi.

6.Die used to steal 100 Yen coins from a jar his parents kept. Now he feels really bad about having done that. Shinya did the same, but he got caught in the end.

7.Shinya first dyed his hair when he graduated and was finally allowed to. kyo did it. (^_^)

8.Kaoru said that when he helps design Dir en grey's costumes, he tries to make them as complex and detailed as possible so cosplayers will have a hard time making the outfits. He said that so far, no one has made a perfect Dir en grey outfit.

9.Deg were on their best behavior during lives in Osaka because their family usually watched???? That means no fanservice.

10.Die almost crashed the van that DEG were in. They were coming home from a live and Die was getting sleepy and he didn't notice that there was a truck heading for them, but since Kaoru was on the passenger seat, he went "UWAAAAAAAAAAAH" and got Die's attention and managed to avoid the accident.

11.While shooting Mitsu to Tsuba in the warehouse, the members tried avoiding the dirty water puddles but unfortunately Toshiya deliberately threw rocks at the puddles trying to make it splash onto the other band members

12.Kaoru always has his hide plushie with him during lives

13.Toshiya likes to thrash hotel rooms and DeG has been banned from several hotels in Japan

14.Toshiya isn't the ONLY anime otaku in Dir en Grey. If asked what he needs more of in his life, Kaoru usually answers, "Gundam!"

15.Die and Kaoru both helped to cut Shinya's hair(sorta), right after they finished the PV for "Yokan".

16.Kyo flunked highschool by turning in a blank exam paper. He did this so he could concentrate on being a musician.

17. Toshiya Tried to kiss Shinya....

18.NEVER SAY KAWAII IN FRONT OF KYO! He hates that word

19.Shinya is the only member that doesn't smoke, and he often complains about them smoking.
20.Dir en grey was afraid of Kaoru when they first met him!


from:http://www.freewebs.com/lestat197/didyouknow.htm

And you can find out about some other bands there too!

[Riyko]

precious4e
I don't think they'll play all of the new songs during the tour, but maybe some. I think they'll still want to play songs off of withering to death as well.

[Saishu]

The set list will most likely be a mixture of Marrow of a Bone, Withering to Death, and Vulgar. I just realised that even though they're touring in the States right as Marrow is being released, the album hasn't been set to come out here yet. The commercials for the U.S. tour are still calling Withering to Death the "new album."

Also, a sample of "The Deeper Vileness" is up on the official site. Kyo does something with his voice towards the end of the clip that kind of made me feel like someone kicked me in the spine.

[Precious4e]

Also, a sample of "The Deeper Vileness" is up on the official site. Kyo does something with his voice towards the end of the clip that kind of made me feel like someone kicked me in the spine.

His screaming reminds me of ASoM but even more "devilish". The music is awesome. Seriously how does he do that with his voice?

[Tetsuya_master]

Sorry if this was posted...i'm new here so GOMEN!!!
from:http://www.freewebs.com/lestat197/didyouknow.htm
And you can find out about some other bands there too!
xD that is funny....i would never kno about Kaoru...if i did then i would've showed him my hide plushie!! :p

[Bloodlust]

His screaming reminds me of ASoM but even more "devilish". The music is awesome. Seriously how does he do that with his voice?

Kyo's a god... didn't you know?

[Nana007]

It looks as if they are going to do another Vulger Chat room thing for this CD.

[whosthere]

Does anybody have the old vulgar chat rooms that they are willing to post. I haven't seen one before. thankyouuuuuuu

[Bloodlust]

Got my ticket!! And the teasers... hell yeah. Kicked in the spine is a good way to describe that. That man is my hero...

[dirus_ninjou]

haha~! i FINALLY got to listen to the teasers last night, and i am soooo going to pre-order that cd... limited edition, if i have the money soon enough. i really liked "DISABLED COMPLEXES"... Kyo sings... like... actually sings, as oppossed to screaming and growling his way through the whole thing. :okashii: don't get me wrong, i have nothing against the style that he has taken on, i just like the songs where he actually sings, and shows his true talent, better than songs like "CLEVER SLEAZOID" and "Aggitated Screams of Maggots"..... which, did anyone else get that "THE DEEPER VILENESS" sounds a lot like ASoM? almost like it could be a sequal to it, or even like they had been one big song and they just decided to split it up..... :souka: then again, maybe it's just me.... :relief:

[Placebo]

Oh im so loving the fatal believer and the deeper vileness.

[beau99]

The set list will most likely be a mixture of Marrow of a Bone, Withering to Death, and Vulgar.
And if we're lucky, we'll get Kisou as well.

Three of the recent Japan lives got both Bottom of the death valley AND pink killer.

[Precious4e]

^That would be great if they played some Kisou. That's my fav Diru album now. Though I wouldn't mind hearing more of their new stuff....well actually any song they play will be awesome. Just hoping to hear some good oldies as a bonus ^^

[Bloodlust]

Kyo could be singing Barney songs (that horribly scary purple dinosaur...remember him?) and I'd be happy. I just can't wait to see them. I don't recall ever being this inspired by a band before so simply being in the same air space as them is gonna be amazing. I'm sure the energy they throw will be unlike anything I've felt before. Going alone is actually becoming a good thing; I'll be able to ride the experience without distraction.

[IkaruJaki]

And I really want the new album after hearing those clips. I know it's soon, but time seems to be moving so slow!

[Riyko]

Is The Marrow Of A Bone going to have a domestic North American release or not? does anyone know?

[whosthere]

Did anybody have any previous vulgar chat room scripts. Cant seem to find any.....

[Tricky_Fish]

It's just my speculation, but from their previous singles sold in the US, I think there will be a domestic release of Marrow of a Bone, but not until long after the Japanese release. But that's just what I think it'll be like, don't take it as an official statement. xD

[beau99]

It's just my speculation, but from their previous singles sold in the US, I think there will be a domestic release of Marrow of a Bone, but not until long after the Japanese release. But that's just what I think it'll be like, don't take it as an official statement. xD

The American release will come only two weeks after the Japanese one.

[Nana007]

The U.S release date is Feb. 20th.

[mikichan]

i can't wait for the new album to come out! does anyone know if its coming out in canada the same time as the US?? or if it is at all?

[Riyko]

I believe that the album will be released in canada when it comes out in the US since withering to death was released in Canada when it came out in the US.

[Tricky_Fish]

Oh really? I wasn't aware the releases are so close together now. xD That's great~!

Oh, and does anyone know...uh..the basic shape of their set lists for the Inward Scream tour?...Just curious, and it's killing me >.<

[Nana007]

Dir en grey @ Wacken
http://www.wacken.com/en/woa2007/main-news...grey-in-wacken/

[Riyko]

Wow they won't be in europe until August, hopefully they'll get a chance to rest from all of the touring and traveling they've been doing, they need it.