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jp22
Feb 12, 2006, 10:10
I have a friend who refuses to fly on Japanese airlines. She says
that Japanese pilots are so programmed to obey superiors they would
rather crash the whole plane than speak up and disobey

It is my prayer that all beings leave their bodies nonviolently
while in the highest meditative state of joy

The airlines comment is a reflection on Japanese society in general,
which values conformity.

When this poster was in Japan, she went barefoot..
and was told 'this is not done'

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Those who wish to welcome strangers, an ethics of most
of the world's religions, would try to bring down the pricegouging
which occurs in Japan's airports.

http://www.vegdining.com

EdZiomek
Feb 12, 2006, 10:17
Silly, don't you think? Ridiculous. Sad. Insulting in my book. In America, we have our own set of racial pathetic derisive comments.

In my part of the world, saying these sad things, or repeating these negative thoughts, does ones own-self damage.

Say a prayer for whoever originated that comment.

Mike Cash
Feb 12, 2006, 10:20
I have a friend who refuses to fly on Japanese airlines. She says
that Japanese pilots are so programmed to obey superiors they would
rather crash the whole plane than speak up and disobey

And she bases this opinion on what?

jp22
Feb 12, 2006, 10:35
many years of residence in Japan
Qantas is considered one of the safest... but those who want to
end the murder of 6 million kangaroos annually avoid it
Air India has the most nonviolent food
Air Canada is being boycotted until the Asper supported Harper regime
ends forever the clubbing of innocent seals with hakapiks (clubs with
narrow spikes on the end driven into brains)


The Sept 11 bombing of the WTC was a US military and Mossad
operation.. the destruction of pensions for several airlines resulted
as the false flag operation gave Ariel Sharon's operatives in the US
an excuse to invade Iraq... BP, Shell, Exxon, Halliburton also benefited
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

Mike Cash
Feb 12, 2006, 11:07
Going back and quadrupling the length of a post after people have already responded to it has to be one of the oddest things I've seen here so far.

godppgo
Feb 12, 2006, 14:56
That is just a silly reason to avoid taking Japanese airlines.

Dekamaster
Feb 12, 2006, 15:54
If one is to believe http://www.airdisaster.com/statistics/ then one of the safest airlines in the world are Japanese Carriers. :blush: Just look at ANA

MeAndroo
Feb 14, 2006, 03:47
She says
that Japanese pilots are so programmed to obey superiors they would
rather crash the whole plane than speak up and disobey

So airline executives tell pilots to crash hundred million dollar jets. And the pilots are so afraid of losing their jobs that they'd rather lose their lives. It's a good thing I've heard of this actually happening, otherwise I might end up instantly ignoring any further posts by the OP.

I think the OP actually wants to comment on vegetarianism.

I love Japanese Airlines! JAL offered me the most comfort on a plane I've ever had, and the food was relatively good.

EdZiomek
Feb 14, 2006, 11:04
JP22... would it be too much for you to ask the webmaster to delete this thread? I mis-speak on occasion, all can be forgiven, forgotten.

Having airline Pilots in my extended family, I mean, frankly, it is almost beyond understanding, ??? beneath respect, or maybe it is a cultural thing that maybe is a valid, sincere question to you, but did not translate to me, in my ultra-sensitive understanding?

I promise if I ever travel overseas, to make sure I fly Japan Airlines, just to cleanse myself of these mis-spoken thoughts.

Peace to all of good will.

sabro
Feb 14, 2006, 13:54
JP 22 seems to be advancing a bizarre conspiracy/ vegetarian metaphysical Karma theory. It deserves points for originality and being waaaaay out there. I consider it a kind of surrealistic comment and an expression of post-industrial ennui in a secular introspection on modern alienation and stress. (Or he might just be suffering from some dementia caused by a nutritional imbalance)

Kaspian K
Mar 1, 2006, 02:34
There are plenty of good reasons to avoid airlines, but your friend didn't give any.

Personally, I won't touch JAL with a ten foot pole given how it seemed they were in the news every second week last year for having to return a plane to the airport because of technical problems. I'm also not too keen that Japan has followed other countries' lead and gone the route of de-regulation for the airlines. I just find that opens the door for airlines to cut corners on plane maintenance.

ArmandV
Mar 1, 2006, 08:48
The only Japanese airline I flew on was ANA two years ago. The airline itself seemed pretty efficient, but I had to wonder about using a Boeing 747 for an hour-long flight from Osaka to Narita even though the plane was full.

However, don't think much about the security checkers at Osaka. They almost ruined a new piece of luggage of mine. They got a good chewing out from me.

名無し
Mar 1, 2006, 22:31
Personally, I won't touch JAL with a ten foot pole given how it seemed they were in the news every second week last year for having to return a plane to the airport because of technical problems.NHK (http://www.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/dailynews.html) saysJAL Announces Leadership Change

Japan's largest airline is about to get a management overhaul.

Japan Airlines has announced that President Toshiyuki Shinmachi will resign.

The company hopes the move will put an end to internal conflict.

The airline's board of directors decided on Wednesday that Mr Shinmachi will leave his post after the shareholders' meeting in June.

He will become chairman of the board and will have nothing to do with the day-to-day operation of the company.

(Toshiyuki Shinmachi / JAL President)
"We shouldn't have internal trouble. JAL's officers and employees must work together to make the company progress."

Haruka Nishimatsu will be JAL's new president. He's the current director in charge of financial affairs.background (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20060225a1.html)

Tokis-Phoenix
Mar 2, 2006, 03:47
And a little more on the story :relief: ;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4763792.stm

Either way though planes are still one of the safest forms of transport on average.

Minty
Mar 2, 2006, 07:15
I have never been on a Japanese airline. In the future when I do visit Japan if I take Japanese airline it would be ANA because I am with star alliance.:emblaugh:

Oh I am surprise at the fact that JAL seems to have many technical problems.

名無し
Mar 21, 2006, 05:09
NHK news (http://www.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/dailynews.html)Skymark under Scrutiny for Safety Procedures

The transport ministry is checking Skymark Airlines' safety procedures.

Ministry officials arrived at the airline's Tokyo headquarters on Monday morning.

Earlier this month Skymark flew a Boeing 767 in need of repair, nine months after a deadline set by Boeing.

Last week, the airline flew a plane that had been hit by lightning without repairing it.

Transport officials are checking whether the airline passed along instructions from aircraft manufacturers to mechanics and pilots.

They are also investigating whether the mechanics and pilots were properly informed of revisions made to aircraft manuals.

The transport ministry says part of the problem can be traced to staff turnover.

Experienced mechanics have been leaving the company recently, leaving the airline without sufficient staff.

The ministry also plans to investigate the level of management awareness.Skymark official site (http://www.skymark.co.jp/en/)