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Baka Gaijin
Jun 12, 2006, 02:59
What program do I need?

Kakulin
Jun 12, 2006, 03:40
Use JCPce (http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~grosenth/jwpce.html), it is the very best.... I think.

yukio_michael
Jun 12, 2006, 04:25
Japanese IME, all you need know of this is listed here*:

http://www.declan-software.com/japanese_ime/

*this is assuming you are using MS Windows.

justin9213
Jun 12, 2006, 05:59
IME only works on the internet, not Word Pad or Abiword or any other program. Also, I donsnt work in programs.I am going to download JCPce and see does it has thoughs features

nice gaijin
Jun 12, 2006, 06:01
... are you kidding? I use IME for everything without any trouble.

justin9213
Jun 12, 2006, 06:07
IME only works on the internet, not Word Pad or Abiword or any other program. So does any one know any other programs I coud use?

nice gaijin
Jun 12, 2006, 06:30
Why did you make this thread immediately after posting this (http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.php?p=353582&postcount=4)? Didn't you just say that you were going to try JCPce because you can't seem to get IME to work?

Mike Cash
Jun 12, 2006, 06:33
Isn't this covered in The Complete Guide?

Mike Cash
Jun 12, 2006, 06:34
I find using the Japanese edition of Windows eliminates all those problems nicely.

justin9213
Jun 12, 2006, 06:38
I am still learn Japanese.

Glenn
Jun 12, 2006, 06:40
I merged the threads, since they basically cover the same material. (Sue me for being too lazy to find one of the numerous other threads that also contain the same material.)

grikdog
Jun 12, 2006, 07:30
If you have a Macintosh running OS 10.3.9 or better, you have full Japanese support built-in to your operating system, including fonts and Kotoeri input method. The nice thing about kotoeri is that it learns to do things your way. If you enter a name in kana, it pops up a list of kanji, then remembers your selection. The next time you enter 鮎沢さん, that's the FIRST thing that comes up.

nice gaijin
Jun 12, 2006, 07:31
IME also does that, at least in my experience...

Glenn
Jun 12, 2006, 07:43
It doesn't do that in my experience, at least not in the way I think he's talking about it. Kotoeri will offer you the selection before you finish typing it if it looks like that's what you're going to type, and pressing tab allows you to choose it. Also, I can type foreign (or just strange made up) names with さん at the end and Kotoeri will remember that it's supposed to be in hiragana, something that doesn't quite work with IME all the time. Kotoeri is better at selecting conversions in my experience.

nice gaijin
Jun 12, 2006, 08:07
yes, IME doesn't auto-complete words or names, but it does remember the last kanji or kana i selected for any given compound, word or name.

JimmySeal
Jun 12, 2006, 08:51
1. Nice Gaijin is correct. MS IME remembers the most recent kanji spelling for any word.
2. MS IME works brilliantly in MS Word, and if you have Windows XP, it should work in wordpad too.
3. Buying Japanese Windows is a terribly silly solution to the issue, since the IME works just fine in the English version and not everybody has $200 lying around to buy something debatably more useful than what they already have.

Glenn
Jun 12, 2006, 10:07
1. I wasn't really saying he wasn't. I was trying to explain what I thought grikdog was talking about, thinking that Windows users wouldn't know about it (although he'll have to confirm whether I was right). However, IME won't always remember the last thing you typed that didn't go to kanji. I remember trying to get my name to convert correctly to be a major hassle every time I did it. Kotoeri does a better job of breaking things up than IME, too. It won't leave you stuck with having to delete something and type it again in smaller sections to get the conversion you want as often as IME does.

2. I mostly type in Japanese on the internet. Are you saying that IME works better with Word than with IE or Firefox?

Tomii515
Jun 12, 2006, 10:18
I herd IME doesn't let you type on microsoft word or sanything, exsept for the internet. I want a prgram for everything...can someone give me the exact link where i can just click download or install or soemthing...

my compute is:

Windows XP

ty eveyone

doinkies
Jun 12, 2006, 10:26
Windows XP's IME works fine in Microsoft Word and other programs too. It's OK to use it.

However, the IME for Windows 95 and 98 that you download from Microsoft can only be used in IE or Outlook. This isn't the case with WinXP's IME, though.

doinkies also has Windows XP and has the IME, and doinkies can type in Japanese in most programs other than IE/Firefox/etc.

Glenn
Jun 12, 2006, 10:28
I herd IME doesn't let you type on microsoft word or sanything, exsept for the internet. I want a prgram for everything...can someone give me the exact link where i can just click download or install or soemthing...
my compute is:
Windows XP
ty eveyone

Don't start a new thread about something that's already being discussed in an active thread. Anyway, that question's already been answered in this thread a few times. IME works beautifully in Microsoft Word.

JimmySeal
Jun 12, 2006, 10:30
I'm saying that IME works just as well with Word as with those two web browsers. It's flawlessly integrated. I was responding to the person(s) who said that it "only works on the internet."

It may be the case that they don't get along in 95/98, but IME works fine in Word on Windows 2000.

Tomii515
Jun 12, 2006, 10:32
on the ime site, what do i click to download the writing typeing thingy or w/e

Glenn
Jun 12, 2006, 10:35
I'm saying that IME works just as well with Word as with those two web browsers. It's flawlessly integrated. I was responding to the person(s) who said that it "only works on the internet."

It may be the case that they don't get along in 95/98, but IME works fine in Word on Windows 2000.

Oh, sorry. :sorry:

justin9213
Jun 12, 2006, 11:36
Then what should we use for windows 98/95?

doinkies
Jun 12, 2006, 12:13
on the ime site, what do i click to download the writing typeing thingy or w/e
Please take a look here (http://www.all.umn.edu/japanese_language/computers_and_japanese.html) for instructions on how to activate Windows XP's Japanese IME. (Particularly, look at Step 2, because that tells you how to activate the IME while Step 1 only tells you how to activate Japanese language support on web pages, which doinkies assumes you already have. ^^)

BobCat
Jun 17, 2006, 03:27
does ください (kudasai) straight-up mean "please", or does it only mean please when it's used in a sentance?

e.g もう いちど いって ください

Glenn
Jun 17, 2006, 03:29
It means "please give me..." or "please verb for me." If you want to just say "please," then おねがいします is what you're looking for.

nice gaijin
Jun 17, 2006, 04:32
ください comes from くださる, the very polite form of くれる, and its use is just as Glenn described. You can also use おねがいします in place of ください to be more polite, but for most daily requests ください works just fine.

BobCat
Jun 17, 2006, 07:01
Thanks :D !