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Dante12
Aug 18, 2006, 22:46
こぎれいではあるがだんらんのない家庭という檻の中に 、つながれているという思いがつのった。

Can anyone here pls explain to me the usages of to iu here?? to iu in this sentence doesnt seem to make any sense to me.....because from what i know to iu is a quote marker...but the usages of to iu here is a bit diff from the usual quote marker...
So if anyone knows here, can u pls explain it to me?? I will really appreciate any help available....

and does kogirei dewa aru means having a nice home??

THANK YOU!!!

undrentide
Aug 18, 2006, 23:21
Kogirei means neat, shipshape, clean, etc.
Danran is often used to describe a family, that is happy.
So "kogirei dewaaru ga danran no nai katei" means the home is well-kept, nicely clean but it lacks in family hapiness. 
The speaker compares that home to a cage.

〜という思い : a feeling/thought that is.....
〜という檻 : a cage that is.....

To iu here indicate that its preceding clause explains the noun that follows.

The speaker has a feeling that he is chained in a cage which is a home which is nice and clean but without hapiness. and the feeling is growing/mounting inside himself.

≪【こぎれいではあるがだんらんのない家庭】という【 檻】の中に 、つながれている≫という≪思い≫がつのった。

Dante12
Aug 19, 2006, 00:51
undrentide, I cant thank you enough!! U really have been a great help to me!!! THANK YOU!!! I really cant express my gratitude enough here.. Once again, THANK YOU!! I really appreciate your help..

undrentide
Aug 19, 2006, 04:15
undrentide, I cant thank you enough!! U really have been a great help to me!!! THANK YOU!!! I really cant express my gratitude enough here.. Once again, THANK YOU!! I really appreciate your help..

どういたしまして! 
You're welcome! :-)

Dante12
Aug 19, 2006, 16:55
Ermmm...I sincerely apologized for this but it seems that I forgot to include the qns of the usage of de as in こぎれいではあるが.

I cant seem to understand the usage of de here that follows kogirei...

KrazyKat
Aug 19, 2006, 19:57
Its from である=だ(です) the は  there is contrastive.

yamada
Aug 22, 2006, 18:57
こぎれいではあるがだんらんのない家庭という檻の中に 、つながれているという思いがつのった。
Can anyone here pls explain to me the usages of to iu here??


yeah, to iu here is preceding clause.