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TGO
Aug 30, 2006, 15:04
こんにちは、私は「と」に関する質問がありますが、み んなはちょっと教えていただけませんか。
例えば、Ex.1 今日スーパーでりんごを一つとみかんを二つかいました。
      Ex.2 りんごとみかんとどちらがすきですか。
「今日スーパーでりんごを一つとみかんを二つかいました。」には、み かんの後ろに「と」を使いません。でも、「りんごとみ かんとどちらがすきですか。」にはみかんの後ろに「と 」を使いました。この違いがわかりません。どうもあり がとう

epigene
Aug 31, 2006, 02:17
こんにちは、私は「と」に関する質問がありますが、み んなはちょっと教えていただけませんか。
例えば、Ex.1 今日スーパーでりんごを一つとみかんを二つかいました。
      Ex.2 りんごとみかんとどちらがすきですか。
「今日スーパーでりんごを一つとみかんを二つかいました。」には、み かんの後ろに「と」を使いません。でも、「りんごとみ かんとどちらがすきですか。」にはみかんの後ろに「と 」を使いました。この違いがわかりません。どうもあり がとう

I'm not fully confident in my response but will give it a shot based on experience. :relief:

Also, please allow me to respond in English, because I can't explain this in easy Japanese.

As you know, "と" in the first example "ringo wo hitotsu to mikan wo futatsu" is simply nouns being conjoined with "to."
The second one is a question of a different nature, asking your preference. By adding two "と," the suggestion is "apple on one hand and mikan on the other."

So there is a difference of the first lumping apples and oranges together into one group and the second implying separation into groups.

Hope it helps! :relief:

Damicci
Aug 31, 2006, 03:13
Epigene nailed it of course. in the second sentence "to" is about equivalent to "of/between/and"
For example
Of Apples and mikan which do you like. There are many different ways to say this in english. I think "Which do you like between X and Y." maybe more commonly used.

TGO
Aug 31, 2006, 03:28
Would I be correct to say that the first instance, "ringo wo hitotsu to mikan wo futatsu" is a more common usage of "と”?

epigene
Aug 31, 2006, 03:31
Would I be correct to say that the first instance, "ringo wo hitotsu to mikan wo futatsu" is a more common usage of "と”?
That's right. But, that doesn't mean the second one is rare. It's just another variation of using "to." You'll see it often as you begin to read more.

TGO
Aug 31, 2006, 15:59
hmm...alright..thanks alot minna-san, guess I'll have to read up more then ^^