View Full Version : Anybody on this board into manga/anime for more than 10 years?
tasuki
May 20, 2003, 09:31
I'd be interested in finding out and hearing opinions on manga/anime from people that have actually been watching it before Inuyasha and GTO...
Anybody ever heard of Chibi Maruko-chan? Or Sazae-san? Or Doraemon? Touch?
Konnichiwa Tasuki-san!
I watching Anime/Manga more than twenty yeras, because I am a Japanese and I full grown in Japan.:D
Of course I know all of them, Chibi Maruko-chan, Sazae-san, Doraemon and Touch.
I don't know Inuyasha and GTO in Anime. But I have all GTO Manga and Uruseiyatsura. Uruseiyatsura is the work of Takahashi Rumiko who is the author of Inuyasya and Ranma too. I had have all Ranma Manga too, but I have not Ranma now.:p
NANGI
tasuki
May 20, 2003, 13:26
I just thought it was funny that a lot of people on this forum did not seem to know stuff older than that... I grew up on the stuff too, but I'm from Quebec. In the 70s and 80s, we got a lot of stuff that was translated to French from France, so I watched a lot of the same things as you did, I guess. Candy, Candy; Harlock, Grendizer, Mazinger, Heidi, and more...
I've never found that Takahashi Rumiko's work was so こだわり作品... Everything I read or saw of hers was either too long or too thin. Inuyasha (I haven't read the manga), as an anime, is just WAAAAAAAY too long. I've completely lost the point, which seemed straightforward at the beginning...
lineartube
May 20, 2003, 20:33
My first contact with anime/manga was in the 80's, and the first series that I remember seeing was Future Boy Conan (though I'm almost sure it wasn't the first one) and Saint Seya, while the first manga that I ever read was Katsuhiro Otomo's Akira.
Fortunately, arounde here there was always a anime serie playing in weekend mornings, though the mangas only appeared for sale very late in the decade.
I remembering seing on TV, the before mentioned Conan, Saint Seya, Candy Candy, Harlock, Heidi, Captain Hawk, G-Force, Evangelion, Doreamon.... It's a very long list. :D
Oh, my first videoclub rental was Nausicaa, of the valley of the wind. :)
me.kara.beam!
May 21, 2003, 09:14
Born in the United States, I have never been to Japan. And I'm too young to know Anime for more than 10 years. ^^; Actually, I've been into anime for a little over 5 years. =]
tasuki
May 21, 2003, 09:42
- me.kara.beam!
Which confirms my suspicion about being a dinosaur on this board. Makes it difficult to have an interesting anime/manga conversation when your have never heard of Mazinger, Gatchaman, and Heidi...
- lineartube
The one anime I remember watching most regularly was the very first Harlock series. I never got to see the end of it either, which really pisses me off. Then I used to watch this show on which Miyazaki Hayao worked on called Heidi over lunch on weekdays. My sister watched Candy on Saturday mornings and it drove me nuts because I wanted to watch UFO Robot Grendizer on a different channel. Those were the days.
Then, my "relapse" into animation was when I began watcing "Robotech". From there it all went wrong and I became an anime freak for about five years. I still have about 300 or so tapes and DVDs stashed in my living room closet (to the great damnation of my wife). I can't wait to watch them again with my kids...
Konnichiwa Minasan!
to tasuki-san
Candy, Candy; Harlock, Grendizer, Mazinger, Heidi and Harlock! I feel a longing for.
I have the same memory with you, my sister watched Candy Candy but I wanted to watch the another Anime(I can not remember what Anime) on a different channel. But my sister is very strong and I can not disobey her.:bawling:
But I like Heidi and I watched Heidi with sister too. I watched Heidi in the evening.:emblaugh:
to lineartube-san
I like Future Boy Conan too! Of course Saint Seya too! And I have the Akira Manga even now!:D
to me.kara.beam!-san
What is your first watching Anime/Manga? Sorry, I can not remember what Anime/Manga I had watched.:p
NANGI
tasuki
May 21, 2003, 14:38
Saint Seya... That's one I haven't gotten around to watching. I think it was aired on American TV in the late 80s, early 90s as "Ronin Warriors" or some such stupid title. Of course, as with Robotech (aka Macross), the plot was completely massacred...
MR-TAZ
May 21, 2003, 17:02
hi there or as you would say Konichiwa ;)
I am a Turkish comics collector who has a special interest in Japanese manga and anime. I have been collecting comics since -well been to long lets say about 25 years, and in to manga and anime since the very first Robotech shows have been aired here in Turkey which is waaay back about at least 1 good ten years.
actually since most of you guys are from Japan or in to manga and anime may be you could enlighten me regarding a spesific problem that i have. Way back in the early 80's there was a TV series about a samurai who has been sent to a unescapable island-prison, succeded to break free and went after his condemners one by one. After each successful extraction of revenge he left a flower as his signature. his name was smth like Skinoske but the exact pronounciation i am not sure.
i really would like to know the true title of the series and if possible get a hold of them in DVD or Divx format.
hope you guys can help me get enlightened ;)
so sayonora to you all
tasuki
May 21, 2003, 17:29
That's a tough one. I can think of at least half a dozen animes with that theme for a core. Was it live action or animated?
I remember back in the 80's my cousin returned from Japan and brought some tapes of Captain Tsubasa and AstroBoy. At that time I was addicted to those Japanese live action shows like Jiraya, Jaspion, Changeman and Flashman.
Later, I got into Saint Seya and Yu Yu Hakusho which was pretty good.
lineartube
May 23, 2003, 06:14
Arghh... I never saw the end of Harlock either since that at the time it was playing on a foreign TV channel that we weren't supposed to pick up. :D Damn... I might get it in DVD now. :)
Never watched Robotech though.. :(
I liked watching the original Sasuke, Ge Ge Ge to Kitaro, Kaibutsu-kun, Osomatsu-kun, Obake no Q-taro, Tensai Bakabon, Umeboshi Denkan and the others from the '60s......
then there were the Urusei Yatsura, Uchusenkan Yamato, Ginga Tetsudo 999, Captain Harlock, Macross in the later years...
then saw Armored Trooper Votoms, City Hunter, Cat's Eye, Hokuto no Ken, Tsuideni Tonchinkan, Project A-ko, Sakigake Otokojuku, Ramen-man, Kinniku-man, Zillion, Akakage, Kamui no Ken, Arare-chan and the other wild Toriyama stuff....
I think my mind became bent after watching Tsuiden Tonchinkan, however......and I've met a few people that remind me of Nukesaku Sensei or at least C-ko.....at my work place....and they scare me....because how did they get through the interview screening process and keep coming back time and time again?
the world is not a safe place......
tasuki
May 23, 2003, 09:04
Man, you do go back a ways...
Konnichiwa Minasan!
I like Macross(Robotech) very much, but I could not watch Macross frequently. Because Macross on the aired in the early afternoon on Sunday in Japan. Usually I have spent my time in pleasure on the town with my friends in the early afternoon on Sunday, and I could not watch Macross frequently.:p
NANGI
MHtrStevie
May 24, 2003, 01:06
Tasuki:
I found it, and I see where "G Gundam" came from... it was "G-Savior", which is some side story IIRC. Never seen it, but looks pretty freaky from the box cover...
:D
me.kara.beam!
May 24, 2003, 12:11
To Nangi: The first anime I have seen... probably the dubbed Sailor Moon on TV. :o Then I got to like anime, so I watched Trigun... then a couple movies... then Evangelion. Then I started downloading fansubs not too long ago. >_> My parents are sorta angry at me for spending my baby sitting money and stuff on anime.
tasuki
May 24, 2003, 23:10
G-savior. Thank you!! That's it. It was pretty freaky. But it was still good to see Gundam as a live action... and realise that its better as an anime. Gundam Seed, the latest series really rocks.
never did get into gundam....or five star stories or the like.....guess I never had the patience to find all of the episodes....and now just can't keep up with all of the other stuff out there... :o
tasuki
May 25, 2003, 09:01
Ah! At last someone who feels like me. I tried to keep up the first few years I was here, but I gave up. It's just impossible. Now, I just target a couple of things I like and keep to those, instead.
Been an anime fan (knowing it was anime) since 1990...
But I watched series without knowing since the earlier 80s...
(Star Blazers, Voltron, Robotech, Force Five, Mysterious Cities of Gold...)
Even remember watching a dub of Galaxy Express 999 on HBO (or was it the Movie Channel) back in 80/81...
I understand exactly what you mean...I wish some of the newer fans would try the older stuff, instead of just dismissing it because it looks 'dated'....
I swear...there's something about hearing fans refer to mid 90s anime as 'old-n-dated' that drives me nuts...^^
-Jei
[1984: Nausicaa, UY2: Beautiful Dreamers, Macross Movie...Good Old Days ^_^]
tasuki
May 26, 2003, 09:09
Tell me about it. What drives me even more nuts is how some newbie fans fancy themselves experts but don't know, as you were mentioning, the classics.
You saw The Mysterious Cities of Gold? In English? I'm amazed. I didn't know it made it to the American market.
Some of the dated stuff still looks pretty good, though. I mean Akira and Macross the movie blow the hell out of more recent motion picture productions and were produced in the 80s. But what I find sad about more recent anime is the dilution. Perhaps I'm getting old, but it seems the stories aren't as deep as they used to be... I didn't really like Uchuu Senkan Yamato (Star Blazers), but it was a hell of a story. Same stands for the original Gundam.
MR-TAZ
May 26, 2003, 22:38
Originally posted by tasuki
That's a tough one. I can think of at least half a dozen animes with that theme for a core. Was it live action or animated? first of all thnx for your response, It was a live action and a pretty good one at that.. his name was something like Anu Sikoneske etc etc but the name of the series is completely blank, since it was aired in turkish and probably named irrelevant to its original title, by the way did you guys see watch animatrix already. if so what do you think of it.
i havenot liked the very first half of matrix reloaded, but the second half was ok, still only a shadow compared to the first film. I couldnot get a hold of the animatrix yet so have no clue, but heard that it fills the blanks in "Reloaded".
so till next time take care you all
see ya
MR-TAZ
May 26, 2003, 23:14
Lets see,
first there were candy, sailor moon, heidi, then came the action with robotech, voltron, gatchaman, transformers, then the legendary akira, followed by macross:pluss the movie, the ghost in the shell .. the list goes on and on and on
as the technique and the computer graphics advance the visuals gets you to say waov once you see the trailers or so but as you sit in front of the big screen pr the silver screen, the stories let you down mostly.
to be specific with all the motion picture version of the series, and the one shot movies not all productions address to our fans appetite.
Blood:The Last vampire was a fine watch but not as intriguing as the Lain, where as vampire hunter D was way better then Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust.
Cobra, Golgo 13, Samurai X, Castle of Cogliostro, Cowboy Bebop, Evangelion are fine examples of good animes that i have had the chance to watched, loved and added to my collection.
good old days ;)
Originally posted by tasuki
Tell me about it. What drives me even more nuts is how some newbie fans fancy themselves experts but don't know, as you were mentioning, the classics.
Right on...according to the newbies at my old club, Gainax only made one TV show (Eva), Miyazaki only had two good films (Mononoke & Spirited) and the best stuff from Rumiko Takahashi was Inuyasha & Ranma...
*SIGH*
Originally posted by tasuki
You saw The Mysterious Cities of Gold? In English? I'm amazed. I didn't know it made it to the American market.
Late 80s on Nickelondeon in the early morning (very early 5am hour...)
Was great to watch right before heading off to school :)
Originally posted by tasuki
Some of the dated stuff still looks pretty good, though. I mean Akira and Macross the movie blow the hell out of more recent motion picture productions and were produced in the 80s.
Macross Movie was way ahead of it's time....
I'll throw another one in that category: Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro!
(Holds up very well for a 1979 movie...)
Originally posted by tasuki
But what I find sad about more recent anime is the dilution. Perhaps I'm getting old, but it seems the stories aren't as deep as they used to be... I didn't really like Uchuu Senkan Yamato (Star Blazers), but it was a hell of a story. Same stands for the original Gundam.
Indeed. That's why I end up waiting around for the next Ghibli or whatever Otomo/RinTaro/Madhouse put out to get some decent meat (or magic)....
-Jei
tasuki
May 27, 2003, 09:36
Right on...according to the newbies at my old club, Gainax only made one TV show (Eva), Miyazaki only had two good films (Mononoke & Spirited) and the best stuff from Rumiko Takahashi was Inuyasha & Ranma...
Hehe. We're kindred spirits, you and I... Although I have to say I was given a break by being in Japan. The shock came from joining this forum...
I've been following Inuyasha for the past two and a half years and while it started out well, she sidetracked and now she's completely lost us and the point... Fortunately, I feel that it's winding down.
Mononoke sucked in my opinion. It was, in my book, the worse Miyazki production. Too much of a Nausicaa rehash for my taste. Even the soundtrack sounded similar. And after reading the Nausicaa manga to the end, I can safely say that Mononoke was the sequel to Nausicaa, but in a different setting.
Macross Movie was way ahead of it's time.... I'll throw another one in that category: Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro!
Good one. I agree. Although not one of the better Lupins. Still it holds up very well, you're right.
Indeed. That's why I end up waiting around for the next Ghibli or whatever Otomo/RinTaro/Madhouse put out to get some decent meat (or magic)....
Did you see "Neko no ongaeshi" (I think the English title is "The cat returns"), the latest Ghibli? (It's already one year old, though...) It was pretty good. Light.
lineartube
May 28, 2003, 06:21
What about Dragon Ball? :D
That show was an uncanny hit here in Portugal. I mean, there was guys in several campus that skipped classes just to go to the nearest bar or coffee shop to watch Son Goku or Son gohan give a severe beating in Freezer or Cell. That thing was almost as popular as soccer, at a given time.
:D
I must say that I enjoyed seeing DB and DB Z, though GT was a pain and I lost interest quick.
tasuki
May 28, 2003, 09:07
I personally could never abide Dragon Ball... Too, what's the word, stretched.
Saiyuki
May 28, 2003, 12:31
i started watching anime like 11 years ago, but didn't know it was anime, but i've only really been into anime for about 5 years. Transformers, Voltron, Reboot, and some stuff they should on sci-fi or the fox channel is what i watched around 11 years ago but i ddn't know it was called anime.
has anyone seen a series called Guyver. i just started watching it and i think it's pretty good
tasuki
May 28, 2003, 12:48
I don't know whether they made a new Guyver series, but the one I saw sucked rocks. I've never really understood the fixation of North Americans have for Guyver and Genocyber, actually.
Reboot was not anime, its an American prod and CGI, so it doesn't really qualify as anime in my book.
As for the Transformers, although I'm not sure about the original series, the copyrights and trademarks are held by Hasbro and licensed by Takara in Japan. I don't think that the Transformers fall in the anime group. At least I never viewed it as such. To me, the Transformers were just as the G.I Joes were...
Saiyuki
May 28, 2003, 13:17
well i know that Transformers was made and first aired in japan, but it was kind of designed towards americans. i don't think there is another Guyver series, besides the one your talking about. the reason i like Guyver is that it's just an anime that doesn't involve a lot of thought, but it still has an alright story line and tons of gorey fights. it's just something i can watch to relax after watching anime like Boogiepop Phantom, Lain, and reading MPD Psycho which i really liked
by the way, have u read MPD Psycho and does it have an anime. that manga was pretty messed up, but really keep me reading. it got kind of confusing at parts
tasuki
May 28, 2003, 13:23
Not really my type of watching or reading. I'm more into the mechanical stuff and the girly stuff... Never really got hooked on the Japanese gore, which is why I don't understand why so many North Americans go for Guyver and Genocyber. Although the manga GUNNM was pretty gorey, it still has an airtight storyine that doesn't depend on the gore. There are long fits that don't involve any... Sorry, I can't help you about that title. Must be pretty recent...
White Comet
May 16, 2004, 19:14
just hit 10 years of watching anime. lol
my first anime that i saw was DRAGONBALL. lol
Budderfly
May 16, 2004, 19:20
My first one was Akira, many moons ago...
Unless you count the original Astroboy I watched about 20 years ago...
Ruri-Ruri
May 17, 2004, 03:45
When I was pretty young (over ten yrs ago) I watched Dr Slump and What's Michael, which are not great classics but were entertaining. But I only really got into anime about 5 yrs ago so technically that doesn't really count, but I'm enjoying the old series like Maison Ikkoku now. The reason why the discussion here is mainly about really new series is just because people are exposed to them so much more than the old series. They should show more of the old classics on tv IMO.
by the way, have u read MPD Psycho and does it have an anime. that manga was pretty messed up, but really keep me reading. it got kind of confusing at parts
I thought that was quite good up to volume 8, then it just got overly complicated and confusing. As far as I know there isn't an anime of it.
noyhauser
Jul 8, 2004, 01:55
Sorry for bumping an old thread but I'm sure as hell part of this group, really I was raised up on Doredamon and a whole host of other japanese stuff on VHS that my family in Japan sent over to me when I was like 4 ~10 years old. Furthermore, unless a new series has been directly been reccomended to me, Im not going to watch it, I prefer to watch golden age stuff. My favorite series was the original Macross series and the movie Do you remember love. Stuff from the golden age, kicked ***, Bubblegum Crisis, MD geist, fist of the north star, so many I can't remember them all.
Right now I'm on a complete kick for Helgensagen Vom Kosmoneif, which is just the most amazing series EVER. Its like a serious Gundam or Macross. Its about war, death and power, and how humans cope with it. Pretty amazing series in my mind, not like the typical anime series today.
Personally I think Anime has gone to places that it shouldn't. CG mixing with cells is disgraceful and NEVER done well. I don't mind CG cell shaded, that loooks okay, but full cgs is brutally done in my mind and doesn't convey the same feelings.
And don't get me started about the crap people are watching today in the US.
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