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melly_chan
Mar 28, 2009, 00:23
ok from what I understand is, that he is annoyed. And I can understand him pretty well.
His privat life is not our business. And it is not his job to tell us his life in detail.
I really understand his reaction. He wanted to tell us in his own words, and now because of a newspaper article, comiyavis are going crazy. I don´t wanna know how many messages he recieved and look at his myspace account!
This is crazy!
He is here for us, that´s sweet, but his fans have to calm down. He is not our property!!

kukuruu
Mar 28, 2009, 00:27
It should be noted that my translation may be completely wrong. LOL. Online translators are unreliable. Until a proper translation is found, just bear this in mind... Thanks, guys. <3 :-)

Miyavi-Lover
Mar 28, 2009, 00:55
So it this means its really true :3 This is the first time that I have seen myv a bit annoyed and slightly mad in his blog X3 It seems like he doesn't like the comments either ;p Totally understand that ;__; Its funny he says that his dream hasn't changed. So he will still make music :3

kukuruu
Mar 28, 2009, 00:58
@miyavi_lover - we still can't say that it is 100% true, but it does seem to be. Don't rely too much on my translation (I can't speak nor read Japanese). Until we can find someone to translate it, or until Miyavi translates it himself, we won't know exactly what is meant in the blog. I could still be wrong. Other translations made no sense but had the word "lie" in them. So perhaps he is calling these rumours lies, we just don't know until it is translated properly by a Japanese speaker.:?

nihon-ichigo-shock
Mar 28, 2009, 01:07
hai... but it's still hard to wait!
I hope it's true! he was wish for a baby so long time!
he was so happy as tyco was became a father!

Redzone
Mar 28, 2009, 01:24
It should be noted that my translation may be completely wrong. LOL. Online translators are unreliable. Until a proper translation is found, just bear this in mind... Thanks, guys. <3 :-)

I thought you had the real transaltion!!!:angryfire: LOL

Ah well, guess we're still waiting. I'm thinking he's confirming it but the think/believe what you want part doesn't make sense. *shrug* Where's a translator when you need 'em?

kukuruu
Mar 28, 2009, 01:31
I thought you had the real transaltion!!!:angryfire: LOL
Ah well, guess we're still waiting. I'm thinking he's confirming it but the think/believe what you want part doesn't make sense. *shrug* Where's a translator when you need 'em?

lol. no I just said it was a "better" translation. :P

I don't know where all the translators are. I wish someone would just translate it, or at least let us know if my translation was along the right lines. I had to warn everyone that it might be wrong, or I'd get blamed if it said the complete opposite. heheeheh.

I think he might be confirming it, without actually confirming it. If that makes sense. He's dropping hints. But maybe by the time he'd written it, gave up and put "Believe what you want to believe" because he did not want to keep writing about it.

If it was not true, then he would have simply said "The rumours are not true. they are lies." He's said that before, so why not now?

Ok. DAMN IT!!! 9 days to go... The countdown has begun. hahaha.

melly_chan
Mar 28, 2009, 01:45
ok I have translation


Translation:
I don't want to comment on this situation at this time.






































I didn't plan to say this in even a whisper
But as a justice to the relevant places
At the live on April 5th, when I graduate from my affiliation with PS Company
After making some various distinctions
I wanted to properly announce this to my fans from my own mouth
Honestly, I would be lying if I were to say this isn't unfortunate.

I'm so sorry to all of my Comiyavi who were hurt by this incident as it is more than anything else against my will.

When the time and place comes, I'll properly convey things in my own words,
so I hope I can have a little more of your time
I'm not going to run and hide,
My dreams are unshakeable.

Believe wat u believe.
Trust wat u trust.

I'm just here.


One last thing,
Everyone, thank you for your warm messages.

雅-miyavi-

so he seems not so annoyed but he also did not said it is not rue.
he just want to say it on april 5th.
maybe he has to...

Redzone
Mar 28, 2009, 01:49
If it was not true, then he would have simply said "The rumours are not true. they are lies." He's said that before, so why not now?
Ok. DAMN IT!!! 9 days to go... The countdown has begun. hahaha.

I don't even know anymore b/c it could be a "While I'm bustin my a** getting ready 4 this concert, I come online just to be bumrushed by this?!" or some of it could be true and some made up or totally false. I could understand his frustration in either instance.

Edit: I see the post above, so he did confirm it! Congrats MYV again!!

*braces for the firestorm*

tabi
Mar 28, 2009, 01:54
It could be true that yeah, he got a chick pregnant, but the married or marrying part might not be true at all.

Yurga
Mar 28, 2009, 02:01
Well, i think all this thing is pretty real~

http://community.livejournal.com/masakarasu/93803.html

What do you think, a?

kukuruu
Mar 28, 2009, 02:03
He confirmed it.

He says he wanted to announce it on the 5th to his fans. He wouldn't announce it if it weren't true.

BRILLIANT!!
:disco: CONGRATULATIONS TO MIYAVI & MELODY :disco:

Thankyou melly_chan!!! Thankyou yurga!!!

We can make that card now, Olosta & Crys!!! LOL

Gonna be off for a bit, need to phone my mum. Back later. :D
kxxxx

Redzone
Mar 28, 2009, 02:06
It could be true that yeah, he got a chick pregnant, but the married or marrying part might not be true at all.

Well, he did say with distinctions, so something could be wrong; but I didn't think they did the out of wedlock thing too much over there. maybe he just wanted to say it in his own words.....bring everyone down easy.

I wonder how tokyograph found out.

Remixer
Mar 28, 2009, 02:07
Just my two cents:

I believe it's a custom/tradition in Japan for a man whom impregnated a woman to marry her.

So, when I read his "it is more than anything against my will", I would guess he got his woman pregnant and was forced to marry her as a consequence.

A marriage he was forced into out of obligation might also explain those negative moods of his you guys talked bout earlier. ( I don't know about them since I don't give a crap about Miyyavi :) )

EDIT: Letting my imagination run wild a bit more, it may also be because of family pressure or an innate sense of duty as a future father to go from an active role in the music scene to an inactive one by creating his own company, where he cannot be put on a tight schedule and can spend more time with his wife and child, who knows?

Don't quote it as truth, though.






Remixer

molestthyguitarists
Mar 28, 2009, 02:27
Hm...

You see melly_chan, 3 years ago I would've said you're right.

Now, however, I cannot and will not deal with suicidal people anymore.

If any of the fangirls want to kill themselves about such a stupid matter, then so be it.

They are wasting the most beautiful thing, which is life itself.

Meanwhile, I'll kick back and enjoy the show. It took me three failures in trying to save mentally unbalanced and immature people from killing themselves to reach this point.

KAMPAI to you all! :D



Remixer


exactly. thank you.

nihon-ichigo-shock
Mar 28, 2009, 02:30
would an intelligant, adult man not know haw to forfend(?)?
I'm sure that japanese know condoms and everything else...

I think miyavi isn't so foolish that he don't know this...

Redzone
Mar 28, 2009, 02:34
I think he wanted this. A family and a baby is all he's talked about for about a year or so. I woldn't be surprised if he was actually the one putting pressure on her about this.

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 02:36
guys, seriously...you're telling here for months, or even years that you will support miyavi no matter what and now because he's married you're just giving up on him and leave this thread? so it wasnt more than just a "love"? you dont care about the music and his personality anymore just because you cant have him anymore? lol i dont want to offend anyone but sorry but this is completely bullshit.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 02:38
Ok, ppl, I can't do this what I've said on the previous page. :( I love him too much to delete his songs, pictures. His songs are too beautiful to do that, he looks too sexy and beautiful to delete pictures, or do anything I've said i would do. :(

I thought about it a lot in last few hours/days, and realised I wish him luck, really. :) I'm happy for the baby, for the lady, happy for him. Still a little bit sad bcuz of my dreams, but it will pass. ;) Girls, I have a brilliant idea! You've sure noticed that he's sad about the comments of some fans. Let's send him a letter, like we sent him that support paper, if i can all it like that (xD) to say him that we are happy about his life and that we support his marriage.

@Crys - I've noticed that you are very sad about it. :( Cheer up girl! Put a smile on your pretty face and everything will be resolved. :D It helped to me!!! :D

molestthyguitarists
Mar 28, 2009, 02:43
Friends, Romans, Comiyavi… lend me your ears! I realize this is a really difficult time for y’all and y’all aren’t sure of which way Miyavi will go with his music, and his appearance, and possibly, y’all don’t know what to do during these events, especially with this time until the fifth, until he announces it formally. y’all may be uncertain of how to best support Miyavi during this time. Y’all may be catatonic with happiness; y’all may be sad, disappointed… maybe you even feel betayed.
However, remember. This is a difficult time for Miyavi too. He has given us so much of himself and w have all grown so close with him – perhaps too close. And now here he is, ready to lose everything for this Melody girl. I’d say that this is a pretty significant sign that maybe, y’know, he loves her or something. Some of us are happy about this. Some are not. And I am remembering what had happened to his ex girlfriend. And to Gackt’s wife. Many of you will think, what, I would never do such a thing. But as history has shown, there are people out there who would, that not all the world is so nice and civilized, otherwise those events would never have taken place. Yet Miyavi and Melody have wed despite those fears – perhaps because they are hoping that their fans will support them and give them strength during this difficult time.
What I am saying, fellow comiyavi, is this; however you may feel about their union, as comiyavi it is our duty to support Miyavi during this time, regardless of whether we approve or not. Miyavi and his music have beeh there for us on so many occasions, whenever we needed them. Miyavi has given all of us so much of himself. Now Miyavi needs our support. Now, more than ever. I am not here to say, don’t feel sad, or disappointed, or disapproving. (although suicide is a bit of a stretch and I think it’s certainly not a very good way of supporting Miyavi) I am here to say to all of you, support him like we always say we will. This is a test of our faith in hi, in a way. Are we going to support his decision and back him up in a difficult time? OR are we going to sit around bitching about how we don’t like Melody, how he is making a mistake, how we’re all going to wear black for the rest of our lives and kill ourselves, and do nothing when he needs us the most??? Maybe he is making a mistake – but it is HIS mistake to make. All we can do is stand by him.
Though I have been a comiyavi for much less of a time than many of you, I ask you all to please keep my words in mind when you are making the decision of whether or not to stick by Miyavi while he is going through troubled times.
Thank you all so much and enjoy your day.

nihon-ichigo-shock
Mar 28, 2009, 02:46
hey everybody miyavi is/was online on his myspace site, perhaps he will make a antry there too!? look on the site in the next hours... perhaps he will say something in english...
(just perhaps...)

Remixer
Mar 28, 2009, 02:47
would an intelligant, adult man not know haw to forfend(?)?
I'm sure that japanese know condoms and everything else...

I think miyavi isn't so foolish that he don't know this...

It doesn't really matter if the person using a condom is intelligent or completely off-the-hook stupid.

Condoms don't guarantee prevention from impregnation. They have a 98% chance, which isn't much if you know how many times there's sex in a relationship and you used a condom every time.

Pulling out also doesn't guarantee nothing.

Also, unwanted pregnancies even though condoms were used, happen every day.





Remixer

molestthyguitarists
Mar 28, 2009, 02:52
actually, according to glamour and cosmo, since many people arent as careful as they should be, and put it on wrong, it's more like 85%...

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 02:52
He needs us, let's help him. :)

Btw, uncle, are you happy that I'm not going to kill myself? :)

molestthyguitarists
Mar 28, 2009, 02:57
Tokyo Girl, i am very disappointed in you!!! you should strive to steal him from his wife, not kill yourself!!!

geez people, why is everyone getting their towel out???


Remixer, i am very very very glad you are around right now... :bawling:

Redzone
Mar 28, 2009, 02:58
Well said MTG!! Tokyo girl, I'm glad you've come around!!

nihon-ichigo-shock
Mar 28, 2009, 02:58
thats true too...
but I don't want to belief such things XD
I hope it is true love!

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 02:59
O.o I don't want to do that... He's happy. O.o

Ohh, my uncle is always here for us. ( ^ _ ^ )

molestthyguitarists
Mar 28, 2009, 03:01
if it is as Remixer theorises, i wish that their happiness will grow naturally. im sure Melody is a wonderful person, otherwise, Miyavi wouldnt have chansed it.


y'know, all this is getting me down. im gonna go deal with the leftover crap in my life, and only then i will come back, and i will be happy and only happy, and nothing else. an occasion like this deserves happiness.

see you in a couple hours folks...


Remixer, i can trust you to burn all the towels lying around right?? ^___^

Redzone
Mar 28, 2009, 03:02
Tokyo Girl, i am very disappointed in you!!! you should strive to steal him from his wife, not kill yourself!!!


LMAO, Exactly. That way here's always something to live for.:D

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 03:03
Kayz, hun. but, where are you going if we may know? ^^

melly_chan
Mar 28, 2009, 03:08
guys, seriously...you're telling here for months, or even years that you will support miyavi no matter what and now because he's married you're just giving up on him and leave this thread?


my words.
As i said, we all always say we want him to be happy. And now he is, and we distroy it, by offending him or leaving him?
Pfff come on....we are all grown up!

The only thing, which kinda disturbs me is the fact, that i never liked melody >.<
Don´t ask me why, but I saw her several times before, and sometimes you just can´t get along with someone. And I never could get along with her. but this is my personal feeling and problem. He chose her for some reasons. And I don´t care because all I am interested in is miyavi and I want my baby to be happy^^

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 03:22
So, when I read his "it is more than anything against my will", I would guess he got his woman pregnant and was forced to marry her as a consequence.


No I think this "it is more than against my will" is refering to the fact, that the fans got the news from the newspapers and internet and not from his own mouth. That's what he meant. I'm pretty sure. If he wouldnt want to marry her I'm sure he wouldnt say that so directly in public.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 03:24
Guys, why do you think he married her on force? :(

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 03:26
Guys, why do you think he married her on force? :(

he didnt, Im pretty sure he's happy with her, the marriage and her being pregnant... like I said in my posting above... I think with that sentence he meant that the fans got the news from the magazines and internet, not from his own mouth like he planned to.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 03:29
Yeah, I'm pretty sure too he is. *umm* Anw, he'll resolve his problems if he has any. :D

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 03:32
Yeah, I'm pretty sure too he is. *umm* Anw, he'll resolve his problems if he has any. :D

I think the only problems he has right now are his "fans" who once swore to support him and now totally abandon him or even worse insult him/his wife... or blame him for having a private life.

molestthyguitarists
Mar 28, 2009, 03:33
maybe he did it accidentslly-on-purpose so he could legitimately have no excuse they could give him to not leave psc... this way he is free to get married and gets a family too...

as for where am I going... my best friend and I are having a great rift but we are trying to pretend there is nothing wrong, and my other bff is tring to keep it from falling apart cuz we all was friends since the 5th grade... but it is too late. we gotta settle this and then it will be alright .... don't mind me about this...

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 03:40
@addict - Don't you think it's quite worrying? :(
I mean, to be failed bt your fans who always supported you and loved you? :(

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 03:44
@addict - Don't you think it's quite worrying? :(
I mean, to be failed bt your fans who always supported you and loved you? :(

Well yea I think its worrying...well not exactly worrying but I think it's disappointing for him. I mean he knows that girls will cry since he's loved by so many but it's another thing to insult/abandon/hate him/melody now. Those fans who do that havent ever been true fans at all (in my eyes). I mean... come on he's a celebrety and even when he's given us so much from himself... he was always out of reach for all of us fans... but some just forget that.

Miyavi-Lover
Mar 28, 2009, 04:35
God some fans are sending such rude comments on his myspace ;__; Miyavi looks like such an other person when he talks about it and stuff. I can totally see him looking like serious typing that blog and melody is happily cooking for him x3 The rumor is that they already married in October last year o.o'

revaanu
Mar 28, 2009, 04:45
so what if he's married? that doesn't change him or his music and thats why we like him, right?

you know arranged marriages still happen in japan. that may be what happened, and really he may just have gotten her pregnant and wanted to do the right thing. who knows? still even if he is deliriously in love with her we should be happy for him.

Remixer
Mar 28, 2009, 05:05
He needs us, let's help him. :)
Btw, uncle, are you happy that I'm not going to kill myself? :)

Yes.

However, you disappointed me more than you will probably ever understand.

I do not and cannot handle suicidal people anymore. It takes too much of a toll on my heart and peace of mind.

I've always liked you a lot and thought highly of you, but this is simply one of my taboo areas.





Ren:

Hahahahahaha, it's all good! :)

Don't worry, I'll probably be around for a while. Even though I don't listen to Miyavi's music at all, this thread has kind of become part of my daily routine. :D

And yeah, I've already put most of the towels into one heap and set it on fire.

The few others I'm going to keep for Hide-impostors whom want to have a go at it. :D







Remixer

Crystallize
Mar 28, 2009, 05:28
Hm, he says, that he is not running and hiding, but from where I stand that is exactly what he is doing. It can't be so hard to tell just how it is.
Either it is true, or then it's not, or what part, the she's pregnant with his child but they are not married yet or the other way around ...
... but actually I more trust the thing that he can't say anything as the PS company doesn't allow them to tell about his gf/wifes ... he'd be braking a rule that could cost him money ... so he wont do it.
Actually, this is the totally last post I make until I know for sure ... I'm through with enabling him and I'm through with worrying about it, it wont change anything ... see you all after the 5th april, at least for a post or two ...

-

I suppose you all have understood by now that I will cancel the support site if this is true, Olosta and molestthy... already knows and now you all know !

And no, you can't take over, and no you can't change my mind ...

I will also cancel this JRef account ...

... but I say as Tokyo girl did earlier, I WILL miss you all, probably as much as I will miss myvs him self, how ever, contrary to her, there is nothing you can say or do to make me change my mind ...


I'll keep the support site up and running until the 5th, but after that you have 2 days if you want to save some pictures from it or so (Tuesday the 7th by midnight) then I'll totally cancel the account for good !!!

nihon-ichigo-shock
Mar 28, 2009, 06:19
melody was made an blog entry on her myspace site too!



Thank you so much for your warm
messages!!!
It makes me very happy and relieved~!

About the news that went
out yesterday,
Im really sorry that everybody had to find out this
way.

Actually, we were planing on coming out publicly about it when the
time comes,
which was next month, after he goes independent.
But the news
got out before hand and we found out about it yesterday morning also.

So I
sincerely apologize from my heart that it couldn't be me to tell you all
directly.
You all know I really wanted to right??

He is also struggling
with this situation, because we wanted to explain everything, but can't
because of the position he is in at this moment...

But don't worry, because
when the time comes, like I said earlier, we'd finally be able to share with
you maybe more in detail!!


As for now, I am doing fine as always...
Bubbly as ever! And yes, what did I tell ya!
talk about good news!!

I'll write again soon!!!!


i think there is no way to misunderstand it XD
I'm now absolutle sure that it's true and I'm happy for the two!
but I understand myv that he is not happy about the way it cames out too...

addsky
Mar 28, 2009, 06:26
hello, guys! could you please post a link to Melody's myspace?
i'm heavy curious...

nihon-ichigo-shock
Mar 28, 2009, 06:33
sorry... I can't poste it 'cause i have not enough entries here...

but her name at myspace is " melmeldotcom "

addsky
Mar 28, 2009, 06:36
aww thanks a lot for this! <3
i see our Baka-sama is going to be a serious man :D

kukuruu
Mar 28, 2009, 06:40
The more they confirm this, the more giddy and excited I get. hehehe.

It's fuggin' awesome news. :D

I didn't know who melody was at all, but from her myspace post, she seems like a woman very happy. I just feel so bad for them that it has happened like this. I can't wait to hear more details. :D

Is she pregnant? That's the next question. oh imagine how stunning that child would be. Awwwwwwwwwww!!!

To all of those that are leaving, shutting down sites etc. Hope you all feel much better about this soon, and I mean that sincerely. Whilst I'm not upset about it, I understand that a lot of people are. You are entitled to your emotions. And I'm glad that the girls on here are not the ones sending the horrible messages to miyavi and melody about this.

@Olosta - going to be quiet here without you. :(

kxxxxx

molestthyguitarists
Mar 28, 2009, 06:44
Yes.

However, you disappointed me more than you will probably ever understand.

I do not and cannot handle suicidal people anymore. It takes too much of a toll on my heart and peace of mind.

I've always liked you a lot and thought highly of you, but this is simply one of my taboo areas.





Ren:

Hahahahahaha, it's all good! :)

Don't worry, I'll probably be around for a while. Even though I don't listen to Miyavi's music at all, this thread has kind of become part of my daily routine. :D

And yeah, I've already put most of the towels into one heap and set it on fire.

The few others I'm going to keep for Hide-impostors whom want to have a go at it. :D







Remixer



im very disappointed in you also, Tokyo Girl, and dealing with suicidal people is not my strong suit... suicide is cowardice in my book. get some boobs and steal him away with your womanly charms and better chocolate cake recipe.
Remixer, you are appointed official keeper of the towels. everyone who wishes a towel must first submit a form explaining in an essay on why exactly they want it. just for security purposes. :D

melly_chan
Mar 28, 2009, 06:51
may I ask for the reason, why some people will leave here?
I mean the fact that he is married does not change anything.
He is still miyavi. He is still the great musician we all know.

well I also hope after some time, people will can handle it and can return to reality^^

kukuruu
Mar 28, 2009, 06:59
Quick edit. In my last message I said "@olosta - it will be quiet here without you". As you might tell, I'm very tired. hahaha. I meant Crys!!!! Sorry, Crys!! That was supposed to be for you!!! :P

This Snoring Princess of Insomnia is going to bed soon...:okashii:
Until tomorrow... See you all then!!

And Crys, if this is the last time that you are here, then it was great speaking to you and hopefully will speak again somewhere, somehow. Take care. :bow:
kxxxx

olosta
Mar 28, 2009, 07:01
@Olosta - going to be quiet here without you. :(
kxxxxx

you know, I am not going to kill myself or cry in the corner....I have school and duties, you know?? And some nous, may it not look like it.

but..
I am not going to post many entries now, until this settles down, because I would probably be misunderstood by most (if not every one) of you.

just one thing: you don´t really know, how it is in Japanese music/movie business, do you? He broke the contract, left his manager. And left the company (or had to leave the company?)


may he be happy being finally a father. may he find his way to deal with fans as he wishes to, and may the fans be more understanding to his deeds and decidings.

p.s. I am still a miyavi fan but I still hate Jpop

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 07:11
@Uncle and olosta - OK, I won't scare you like that anymore! :) Now I realise what mistake did I make when I told that I'm going to kill myself or do things like stop being Miyavi's fan or something like that!!! As many of you said:He's still Miyavi with the same music, voice and sexyness. Well, he may have the black thingy under his eyes bcuz of the baby crying all the night!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Joke. :D Now, Crystalize is making the same mistake. :( Crys, my dear, don't be dissapointed like that. (they may seperate one day :evil: (joke xD)) There's no reason to not love him anymore. :P Wasn't he your idol, your everything? Come, hun. He loves us all, but he has right to be happy, right? If you go, I'm going to miss you very very much. :( :( :( We love ya, don't do that to us!!! :( Please, please, please~!!!

Btw, uncle, are you mad at me for some reason? :(

olosta
Mar 28, 2009, 07:23
oh, one last thing:
you realize, that melody´s journal entry made miyavi look like an idiot?

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 07:28
Why? xD Btw, is melody pretty? Never saw her. xD

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 07:34
Edit: I just did a completely different post, trying to understand you and all, but since I read some stuff on myspace, that really pissed me off, I deleted my post. I dont care anymore, if you want to leave, leave. It was nice talking to you, I'm not going to say anything about it anymore.

I'm just really thankful for the fans who are going to remain here because we keep on supporting Miyavi, like I said months before: no matter what.

about melodys blog: maybe he knows about melodys blog and is happy about it? I mean that it is finally being said because he cant tell it? I dont know...and I dont care as long as he's happy.

Sorry for my rant but that's my opinion.

@tokyo girl: thats her :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptmw9guapF8

Redzone
Mar 28, 2009, 09:35
oh, one last thing:
you realize, that melody´s journal entry made miyavi look like an idiot?

How so? He's the one under contract with PSC not her. They don't have any control over what she does or doesn't say. If anything he probably feels better that one of them was able to get it off their chest before the 5th.

Watched the video: She's cute! I wanna marry her too, meev!! LOL

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 09:51
btw about the thing that i posted earlier when I wrote that I dont like his behaviour and that he's keeping his fans in the dark and that he owns us an explanation...I totally forgot, that he's still under PSC contract...doh x/ For some reason I thought this whole PSC thing was already over... lol

ahiru
Mar 28, 2009, 12:13
Hello everybody here!

I have always supported Miyavi quietly, because I am shy and my english is very very bad. That is why I have read posts on Jref forum for a long time, but I never had a courage to write anything.

But now, I feel like it is time to write this:

No, I am not jealous so dont get me wrong, I mean it honestly.
I want him to be happy, I dont have any stupid dreams, like I can be with him or so. I know that he always wanted to have family and I have expected him to get married someday.But I was very sad,when I discovered, that he picked out melody. She seems to be so empty and boring (I tried to give her a chance, believe me, I have watched/read all the interviews I was able to find and became more disappointed) I hoped,that he will marry interesting, little bit crazy, intelligent and creative woman! Simply a person, which will match his temperament.

Thats why I feel so sorry for him right now. But I really really hope that I am wrong and she is not so superficial and they will be happy together...but I dont believe in it or in him anymore. He throw away everything, what he achieved ... his friends, his company, his manager who supported him for 10 years, even his piercings - memento on due le quartz for this woman, to look more like an adult. And what is the worst, his music is getting closer and closer to pop. I think, that she has not a good influence at him. The last album with remixes is flop. I think like he is falling star right now.

Sorry, it was hard for me to write something like that here, you can be angry at me, actually i am angry at myself T_T. I will never stop to love miyavi - he was my first Jrock love, but now I feel like our energetic and always smiling Miyavi is fading away... and it is not because of this marriage, I had this feeling for longer time. Melody is for me only like dot on the end of sentence. I am so sorry, that my first post here is like that, and I will be glad, if in the future will be everything great, myv will be happy and when his next album will be still in visual rock - style and successful, I will be the happiest girl in the world .... i hope so....

ahiru / salmacis

Redzone
Mar 28, 2009, 14:31
On Myv's change: I don't think Miy's "fading" he's just growing up. He was a teen when he first got into music. He's nearly 30 now. There's suppose to be some growth. He's human. Personally, I never thought he was bouncing off the walls 24/7 to begin with.

On Melody's personality(or lack thereof): opposites attract. If miyavi's silly, funny, goofy maybe he wants someone that's gonna laugh at him his jokes instead of being silly, funny, goofy too.

On the remix album: That's not really an indicator of anything. Remake albums never do as well as a new studio album. I think this was just PSC trying to make money off him before he's gone or it could have been released to fulfill his contract with them.

mysticgenie
Mar 28, 2009, 17:45
Amidst all the fuss about Miyavi getting "married".....a lot of people have been upset about it. There were a lot of people who were happy.....Some were indifferent like me. Why am I indifferent? I refuse to believe anything unless Miyavi confirms it himself. If it were true, then I am soooo happy for him. It is about time!

Another thing...the reason why I posted here....

As much as possible, I don't want to bash other people but I have to blurt this out or else I'd not stop shaking in ANGER just now.

I was reading Meev's myspace entry and then what stirred my anger was......THE COMMENTS!

There was a waging WAR there!

How RUDE is that?! I mean, WTF! It is like gossiping in front of a person right? I do think that is totally horrible. The man is under great pressure already and these "fans" as they call themselves are adding more ot it. Sorry for bitching it out but I really have to say this.

They even bullied someone. I think the poor girl wasn't quite sure on how to express herself but the the others ATE her alive and bullied her ON MIYAVI's page OF ALL PLACES!

This is stressful for anyone to read.

and

This made me angry.

UGH. Seriously....STOP FIGHTING!

Also, we are FANS. We support our fave musician no MATTER WHAT! A marriage isn't a thing that can break us apart right? This is the time that Miyavi needs us more...to understand and comfort him. If you can't do that, then I daresay you don't love him enough.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 17:50
@olosta - She's pretty. ( ^ _ ^ ) Meevs knowes how to choose. :evil: You know, I may start listening to her because this song isn't bad at all!!! It's catchy...

EDIT:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=1000278930&blogId=479560456
Ok, this made me cry like hell... Poor Miy. WHY CAN'T THEY BE JUST HAPPY FOR HIM???!!!!!!!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( He's getting angry about it now WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THERE FANS WHO STILL SUPPORT HIM AND THEY'LL DO THAT FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mysticgenie
Mar 28, 2009, 18:09
He do knows there are fans willing to stick it out for him. Maybe he is just angry at how some people tend to turn out as shallow ones.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 18:10
I hope he knowes that... :(

Torayuki
Mar 28, 2009, 18:47
I think the way some of miyavi's fans have been behaving is really shameful on them. It seems like, if you really are someone that supports him it won't matter if he marries or not, has children or not, or even something little like changes his appearance. Miyavi is CONSTANTLY changing his style. He has from the moment he first started on his own path, and he's going to continue to evolve as he *gasp* grows up. Yes that's right, GROWS UP. Just like EVERYONE HERE, we all grow up eventually. Some of us are going to be really lucky and get to do things we love and be at least a little childish for the rest of our lives. But we grow up just the same. It is our priviledge to grow up, to become adults that we can be proud of. We will all make mistakes, will all have unexpected things happen, but the difference between childhood and adulthood is how we react to those unexpected things.

The reactions I've been reading about are making me so angry. I am seeing a lot of supportive fans and THAT makes me happy, because it will make miyavi happy. But I'm also seeing temper tantrums. And those FEW people are making me feel so sorry for miyavi. We are GIFTED with so much of his presence in our lives. No, we don't get personalized email responses. No, we don't get to just call him whenever we want and talk about all our problems. No, we don't get to go for dinner or go to a party together. But we get to read his blog, where he always talks to us like PEOPLE that he CARES about. We get to email him, send messages to him through myspace. When we send him encouraging messages he RESPONDS to that in his blog. And when we send him angry, hurt, confused messages, he responds to those too. I don't understand how people can be so ungrateful for what we are given. He doesn't have to do anything for us. He doesn't have to write about his day or take photos of the things around him (or himself). He doesn't have to worry about what we think or how we're feeling. He certainly doesn't have to read ANY of his fanmail. But he does. For us, to be a part of our lives, even just a little bit.

He has given us so much of himself. Isn't it okay for him to take something for himself? Maybe he "should" have told us. Maybe he would have if he could have. North America is used to seeing celebrity relationshp news blasted across the front pages of countless tabloids; screaming at us from visually shocking locations. It's different in Japan. Celebrities can lose countless fans by dating or marrying, as if it is some 'betrayal' for them to be in love. We all want to be loved, don't we? Are we so selfish that we would really demand that he love no one else even if it made him miserable? Are we so selfish that we would deny him something he wants so much? Just because he abided the rules of his contract and kept his relationship a secret until now? More than anything else in this world I believe Miyavi wants to make music. More than anything else. Is it really so bad for him to also want someone he can share everything with? Someone who knows ALL his secrets? Who understands the world he lives in?

I support miyavi.

I support whatever relationship he chooses to have.

I support his music.

I support his life.

Some people will probably think "she talks so high and mighty but she was probably just crushed like the rest of us and is trying to cover it up by beign cool." I am not going to lie to anyone. When I first saw it I was shocked, hurt, it was like a boyfriend had cheated on me! But I know that feeling for what it is; infatuation, obsession, a crush. It's not real. It's not love. It's lust, desire, jealousy. I decided to put that aside, because there is no reason for it. And under that was a feeling of real love. I want, more than anything, more than him continuing to make music, for miyavi to be happy. I want him to have the best possible life he can. And I believe very strongly that the only person who can make the decisions to achieve that is miyavi. If this is his path, and if it will make him happy, then I will put my idle day-dreams away and tell my "Japanese big-brother" congratulations with a heart-felt smile.

I guess it all comes down to one question though;

Why do YOU love miyavi? The REAL reason. Music? Appearance? Lust?

I know what my answer is.


And miyavi knows some of love him enough to wait patiently, and trustingly.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 18:49
Mmm, lemme answer your questions:
I love miyavi bcuz of his music, apperiance.... With one word: EVERYTHING!!!!! :love:

Torayuki
Mar 28, 2009, 18:55
Yeah me too :)But I love him most because of his heart.

mysticgenie
Mar 28, 2009, 19:03
@Torayuki: I am so overwhelmed with your post. It is like you have written what I felt too. *speechless* <3

melly_chan
Mar 28, 2009, 19:10
yes Torayuki made an awesome post here x333

And I love Miyavi because he gave me so much. He gave my smile back. I will never forget that <3

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 19:25
@ahiru: I think it's really disappointing that people already judge melody. Yeah maybe you have seen her in videos, interviews and else... but do you know how she is when the cameras are off? Neither of us does. Neither of us knows her or him in person and what goes on behind shut doors. If he wouldntve liked her and if he wouldnt be happy with her, he wouldntve married her. Nobody knows her, how can you judge someone from some interviews or videos you've seen? Yes, maybe he gave up alot for her, PSC and all, but maybe she is worth it and I am sure he did it because he was sure that his fans will stand behind him, support him, no matter what decision he made - what a bitter disappointment must that be for him now?

about the blog: It's really really sad *sigh* I mean, he wants to tell us, he even seems desperate but people please understand: HE CANT! He is not allowed to. If he was, he wouldve been the first person to tell us. And this is what makes me sad. He's sad and desperate and those so called fans who abandon/insult him are just making it worse even tho he should be the happiest person on earth - great fans, well done.

@Torayuki: I totally agree with you. I couldntve said it better. And we plan to stick with him, and as he said: he loves us no matter what, and we love him no matter what.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 20:22
A smile? He gave my life back. Without him I wouldjust sit in front of the TV doing nothing... i love that guy for giving us so much... :love:

addsky
Mar 28, 2009, 20:31
i was sure he would marry a non-Japanese girl, dunno why.
and more: he's retiring from PSC, but he also promised to start his own company, so Myv will explode this world again =D

Miyavi-Lover
Mar 28, 2009, 20:53
Wow much new people here 8D I am really happy Melody writed a blog too! I can't wait to see those 2 together at a program telling about how it all started :3 It will answer allot of our questions ! Its sad that myv is really struggling with all those comments on myspace and I understand its hard to accept and ignore it ofcourse because he is like nr. 1 artist that always cares about his fans :3

I bet Melody got a nice big diamond ring on her finger now <3

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 28, 2009, 21:16
Ofcourse. :P He'll rule the world once again!!! :love: I didn't even think about taht will he marry a japanese or a white girl. xD I just thought that he's going to marry me. :P

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 21:24
... I didn't even think about taht will he marry a japanese or a white girl. xD I just thought that he's going to marry me. :P

Dont worry, alot of people thought that here appearently :P

addsky
Mar 28, 2009, 21:29
you're so naughty, Tokyo-girl :-)
there is one thing i can't understand properly - have they married already, or just are going to? because the contract, as far as i see, avoids any attempts to start a family, and Meev got a freedom just recently, so how could he marry her already?

382addict
Mar 28, 2009, 21:45
according to alot of sites they are already married, that's all I know. Maybe the contracts just dont allow it to make this public or anything like it, I dont know.

nymphadora69
Mar 28, 2009, 22:31
Ok..some comments on myspc almost kill me~
ok I admit that I was a little bit angry and disapointed when I heard the *news*..but now I´m more calm :-) first of all Myv is musician, so I´m more interested in his music not in his personal life~ hm and melody...maybe I don´t like melody´s music/interviews/blogs but I don´t know who is she in privacy..so if Myv likes her or whatever I´m ok with it (even If not..I can´t really do anything :D) soo I´m looking forward to his new stuff and I hope that these matters don´t influence his music cause he has a potention to be legend some day :-)

mysticgenie
Mar 28, 2009, 23:34
that blog post by melody...was that real? I mean....the page doesn't look genuine at all.

molestthyguitarists
Mar 28, 2009, 23:47
guys, i am thinking, lets make a small thing to show our support of him. i am thinking, get a bunch of nice comments together, put them into a vid, stick on youtube, tag miyavi & melody wedding wishes, and wait for it to float up. whatever you send me in the next 24 hours will make it in, and if i dont have enough material, i will mine the pits of this thread and find all the posts where we said that Miyavi needs to get a wife and some kids. so if there is anything NICE that you wanna say to MYV and Melody, please send it to:
molestthyguitarists@hotmail.com

and if there are posts you know it would do him good to see, take a screenshot and send it to me, dont bother cropping it or anything... or just send me the post number.

i will make the thing sometime tomorrow. i am thinking girls be ambitious or the wedding song for the music.

molestthyguitarists
Mar 28, 2009, 23:58
oh yeah, if anyone specifically does NOT want their posts included, pm me, i promice to not be offended, kk?

Miyavi-Lover
Mar 29, 2009, 00:29
I will send message for them soon :3 Its always nice to show them my support <3

Lol I never thought he was gonna marry me X3 I mean im 15 ._. It would be pervy and illegal if he married me :') I always imaged that I looked like Ayumi Hamasaki and that he was my bf like 2 years ago when I was like 2 months fan X3

molestthyguitarists
Mar 29, 2009, 01:12
heh lulz i only looked at him as someone i should aspire to be someday. so i guess that is why this did not affect me... although looking around the net i am thinking maybe i am being too hasty... send me what y'all can, and i will put it together on the 5th and then it can float around youtube... sorry if it seems as if i am going nuts, possibly i am. i am gonna try to take it easy and chill out before the official announcement comes... there is a lot of stuff i havent gotten to do in quite a while and i will use this as an opportunity to catch up on the missed yaoi fics, continue reading translations of diru lyrics, possibly force myself to listen to mazohyst of decadence again without pausing, memorise some songs that i've been meaning to... cuz right now i dont trust myself to not get caught up with this madness...

but first things first... i will take a nap and do something about my hair dammit...

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 29, 2009, 01:43
you're so naughty, Tokyo-girl :-)
there is one thing i can't understand properly - have they married already, or just are going to? because the contract, as far as i see, avoids any attempts to start a family, and Meev got a freedom just recently, so how could he marry her already?
I am, I know... :P :D
As olosta said, we think that they're already married. :)

Redzone
Mar 29, 2009, 02:28
Well said, Torayuki!!!

Right now, I feel bad for Miy. This is a time that he should be happy instead he's worrying about his fans and how they're gonna take this. If that doesn't speak to the fact that he has some feelings for you all, I don't know what does. You guys may not be his wife but it's obvious he cares, b/c if it were me in this situation I couldn't say I'd give as much of a sh-t to let it bother me to this degree. I'd be off somewhere enjoying my new wife and future kid.

This reaffirms to me how much of a good & caring person he really is and why we ALL should be happy that such a beautiful soul is being rewarded. Folks need to get over their own selfish feelings and be happy for him......he deserves it. As his fan, you all(speaking in general) should know that more than anyone.

Crystallize
Mar 29, 2009, 05:51
Hm, acutally I've been thinking some, how about making the JRef Miyavi support forum a more broad J-Rock support forum instead ?
We can post pictures off all groups on the page ... etc ...
This would be an option instead of closing it down ?
(even if I more and more starting to doubt this hole story and
I think I heard a denial in myvs this morning post, not sure though ... )
Ok, sorry all, I wont read all 1000 post on all since I've been gone, I will do it, eventually ... when I feel l can handle it ... we all handling this in different ways and mine might be the worse, but I just can't be here right now, I can't handle all inputs ATM.
I would stress my self up too much ...
But last night I've slept for 8h for the first time in days and today I've eaten something for the first time in over 3 days.
c u all later ...

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 29, 2009, 06:59
Good idea, hun! ;) Btw, i'm glad you posted here. keep doin' that. ^^

Crystallize
Mar 29, 2009, 07:05
Good idea, hun! ;) Btw, i'm glad you posted here. keep doin' that. ^^


Thanks ,............




... and thanks for all Private messages from all also ...


... and I think I actually have made at least one real friend from here, well you know who you are, I don't have to say it (since you know secrets about me...) *mwha ha*


We will get through this, all of us, wont we? one way or another ... !

382addict
Mar 29, 2009, 08:34
Well said, Torayuki!!!
Right now, I feel bad for Miy. This is a time that he should be happy instead he's worrying about his fans and how they're gonna take this. If that doesn't speak to the fact that he has some feelings for you all, I don't know what does. You guys may not be his wife but it's obvious he cares, b/c if it were me in this situation I couldn't say I'd give as much of a sh-t to let it bother me to this degree. I'd be off somewhere enjoying my new wife and future kid.
This reaffirms to me how much of a good & caring person he really is and why we ALL should be happy that such a beautiful soul is being rewarded. Folks need to get over their own selfish feelings and be happy for him......he deserves it. As his fan, you all(speaking in general) should know that more than anyone.

I totally agree with you. It breaks my heart to see him this unhappy and desperate when he should actually be the happiest person on earth, at least he's having a baby and he loves kids so much... but he cant be happy because some of those so-called fans destroy it.. *sigh*

Redzone
Mar 29, 2009, 10:33
I totally agree with you. It breaks my heart to see him this unhappy and desperate when he should actually be the happiest person on earth, at least he's having a baby and he loves kids so much... but he cant be happy because some of those so-called fans destroy it.. *sigh*

Exactly, It's one of the few times I wish he was more selfish. In reality, none of this should be any of our business to begin with. I know it's been said a million times, but he doesn't owe us anything. He doesn't owe us the explanation that he's asking us to wait for him to give. To me the thought that he feels the need to explain himself....the fact that he even apologized for making a decision about his own life is preposterous.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 29, 2009, 17:21
Thanks ,............




... and thanks for all Private messages from all also ...


... and I think I actually have made at least one real friend from here, well you know who you are, I don't have to say it (since you know secrets about me...) *mwha ha*


We will get through this, all of us, wont we? one way or another ... !
We will get throught this. ;) And I'm glad you got so optimistic. ( ^ _ ^ ) Keep going that way Crys. :)

mysticgenie
Mar 29, 2009, 17:26
Ok, on other news.......

*screams*

MIYAVI WON IN THE JROCK CHOICE AWARDS!!!!!

http://www.jrockrevolution.com/news/jrock-news/1164-and-the-winner-is.html

*gathers breath*

Glad to see you back Crys. <3

melly_chan
Mar 29, 2009, 17:37
YAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *am proud of him*
:yeahh::yeahh::yeahh::yeahh::yeahh::yeahh::yeahh:

ok just best cd cover, but yayy :cool:

anyways I agree with redzone. He owe us NOTHIN!
He really should be more selfish, but that he is justify this situation, speaks for his unique personality. Such an emotional guy. When I read his blog, I felt so srry....i was close to tears.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 29, 2009, 18:29
Im' soo glad for Meevs!!!!!!!!!!!! :cute: :balloon: That's greaat!!! Go, go Meev! :P

Crystallize
Mar 29, 2009, 19:37
Well, I suppose I'm back since I have posted, aren't I? *lols*

and well, congrats miv ... what ever ... (oh, so sarcastic I feel ATM .. though ... )


How ever all, can you please read my new blog post on the support forum: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=446084927&blogId=479808551

I want your input all ... I was serious yesterday when I talked about expanding it to a more general J-Rock forum instead.

Is this ok with all ???

also as Olosta have been a big help of the Miyavi support page I would want to discuss this with you also, before making a final decision ... we would need a new profile picture and a new banner picture :-)

I will do the basic graphical layout, it would be technically too complicated otherwise, but we'd need more pictures of other bands artist etc.

382addict
Mar 29, 2009, 19:53
I dont want to offend you but why did you think the people added this page in the first place? - Because they wanted to support Miyavi. And I guess like 85% at least still want to do that, just because he's married now (oh what a crime) doesnt mean he died. He's still around, will still make music and will still be the great, warm-hearted and fan-loving guy he's always been.

So what I want to say is, if you want to make a general jrock-page out of it, it's your decision, not ours. Good luck with the page.

Skulley
Mar 29, 2009, 20:05
OK please help me
my computer was broken for a week:(
than I came online and just saw something about myv marrying
what the hell? Is that really true???
I mean I would be happy but who is melody?
I can't understand the world xD
Please tell me

mysticgenie
Mar 29, 2009, 20:06
I stubbornly stand behind Miyavi...MARRIED OR NOT.

I want the Miyavi support site that we have....and maybe...just maybe...you are going to convert it to a general jrock support group....I am ok with it but I would still prefer Miyavi coz as what 382miyavi have said most of us aren't really bothered with the fact that Meevs got married to somebody. I am not the least upset about it. Yes, I was surprised but not upset. Maybe you guys should have a look again at the post that Torayuki made at the previous page. THINK.

melly_chan
Mar 29, 2009, 21:52
Yes I came to the miyavi support side, because i support miyavi no matter what.
he has not changed. Nothing has changed. I am still his fan and never ever had something diffrent in my mind. If you want to change the support side into a general j rock support side, go ahead, it´s fine with me, but it is somehow a bit sad, that you made this decision.
I can say it thousand times but for me NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!

Miyavi-Lover
Mar 29, 2009, 22:00
OK please help me
my computer was broken for a week:(
than I came online and just saw something about myv marrying
what the hell? Is that really true???
I mean I would be happy but who is melody?
I can't understand the world xD
Please tell me

I will explain X3 In a Japanese newspaper they said that Miyavi and Melody (J-pop singer and VJ) are married and she is pregnant. Ofcourse we all thought this was just a rumor but both Miyavi and Melody posted a blog that didn't said it wasn't true and that they will make an annoucement when miyavi left PSC. You can see that there are tons of myspace comments at the myspace of myv X3

As Melody said in her blog, they wanted to keep it a secret and tell in plubic after myv left psc because I guess it isn't allowed in psc or something x__x

Crystallize
Mar 29, 2009, 22:39
I will explain X3 In a Japanese newspaper they said that Miyavi and Melody (J-pop singer and VJ) are married and she is pregnant. Ofcourse we all thought this was just a rumor but both Miyavi and Melody posted a blog that didn't said it wasn't true and that they will make an annoucement when miyavi left PSC. You can see that there are tons of myspace comments at the myspace of myv X3
As Melody said in her blog, they wanted to keep it a secret and tell in plubic after myv left psc because I guess it isn't allowed in psc or something x__x
Oh, I'm so with you... please read up and take it all in, one step at the time, don't stress up your self ...
Melody is ... nobody really ... a cute cookie to eat for any h*rny Asian guy, I'm sure ...
oh, that sounded mean, didn't it ? ... but it true, she is so not extra ordinary in any way ... :okashii:
oh yeah, if anyone specifically does NOT want their posts included, pm me, i promice to not be offended, kk?
Oh pls don't include mine what ever you do ... :relief:
that blog post by melody...was that real? I mean....the page doesn't look genuine at all.
It's probably very real, she's probably just to d*mb to make a decent nice looking MySpace page. You know ... thinking she wouldn't have to because she is too important to have to try ! As I said, just a cookie bimbo ...


Oh, I'm sorry for being so p*ssy at the moment ... I'll get over it !
... I'm a little PMS and as I said, I'm not handling this all too well ...


And thank you Olosta for being supporting of the new changes of the JRef J-Rock MySpace support site. She have promised to make new banners and profile pictures ... but there is no rush ... let this take the time it needs to settle ...

olosta
Mar 30, 2009, 00:03
that blog post by melody...was that real? I mean....the page doesn't look genuine at all.

the blog is real. I visited her myspace page and read all blog entries, she has left there. Already in october she wrote, that something good happened in her life.
She wrote literarly: "I am blessed".
And in every other entry (at least which I could read) she wrote again and again that she is happy.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=417472540

it is her private myspace, she deleted her official page when she retired from showbusiness

And she did not deny the marriage, she confirmed it in her last blog. Despite the fact, that Miyavi didn´t want to do so.

Crystallize
Mar 30, 2009, 01:25
the blog is real. I visited her myspace page and read all blog entries, she has left there. Already in october she wrote, that something good happened in her life.
She wrote literarly: "I am blessed".
And in every other entry (at least which I could read) she wrote again and again that she is happy.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=417472540
it is her private myspace, she deleted her official page when she retired from showbusiness
And she did not deny the marriage, she confirmed it in her last blog. Despite the fact, that Miyavi didn´t want to do so.
What ever ... really, if it's true, then lucky her ... otherwise I'm still expecting that conformation from myvs ...
But you are right in one way, he did confess that he did feel responsible for the hole situation, so there must be something to it ... in some way, never the less ...
Not that I'm going to wait it out to find out ... I'm already so beyond this in my mind, there is so many cute J-Rock guys to do sweet things for ... what ever ... I've got a new crush already, actually already had before this hole thing happened.
I just didn't want to say anything as I kind of felt obligated to it somehow because of the support site ... stupid me ... and maybe I should be glad that he let me a easy way out ... really ... ooooh ...
http://74.50.124.24/image/images2_full/ygcZ-15p-1.gif
(I hope Dragonlady92768 wont mind me for using her drawing to make this ...)
and sorry for being off topic !!! wont happen again, it's the last time, I promise!

Miyavi-Lover
Mar 30, 2009, 01:51
@ Crys, ofcourse she isn't very extra ordinary but you have to look it at this way:

She is special enough for Miyavi!

He would never marry and uhh make her pregnant (lol) if he didn't thought she is special for him!

Crystallize
Mar 30, 2009, 02:01
@ Crys, ofcourse she isn't very extra ordinary but you have to look it at this way:

She is special enough for Miyavi!

He would never marry and uhh make her pregnant (lol) if he didn't thought she is special for him!


It doesn't take a lot to make someone pregnant, I think all of us here knows how it's done *roflmao* ...

So yes, well, I can see why he thinks she is special ... (thinking shallow bad things) ... if that is all you want out of your life ... * ... really as I said ... I don't care, lets move on ...

Remixer
Mar 30, 2009, 02:04
Not that I'm going to wait it out to find out ... I'm already so beyond this in my mind, there is so many cute J-Rock guys to do sweet things for ... what ever ... I've got a new crush already, actually already had before this hole thing happened.
I just didn't want to say anything as I kind of felt obligated to it somehow because of the support site ... stupid me ... and maybe I should be glad that he let me a easy way out ... really ... ooooh ...


I can't stop myself. I really have to say it or my brain will explode and my dead body will go on a rampage and cause the second holocaust:

That part of Crysallize's last post makes me shake my head.

I always wondered how shallow and utterly immature some people can be and she truly is a fine example of that.

4 (FOUR!) days after "the love of your life" turns out to be married you're starting to love someone else.

You really, really, REALLY deserve this:

Get off your ******* horse. You don't love anyone, and you definitely never loved Miyavi.

It is more than apparent how incredibly vain you are and only want to be part of the, what you think to be, amazing lives of Jrock Artists.

In my eyes, you're as pathetic as it gets. Oh, and spiteful too.


Done. All of you may now continue talking about Miyavi. :D








Remixer

Crystallize
Mar 30, 2009, 03:54
4 (FOUR!) days after "the love of your life" turns out to be married you're starting to love someone else.

Remixer


The love of my life ? Did I ever say this ?

and starting to love someone else after 4 days after finding out he's married, no it's not true either, as I said, I have had stuff going on all along, I don't need to tell you everything.

Though I have always told you guys about my crushes, like Cross, Ayu and the earlier once also sometimes !

... though it was before your time here Remixer so don't go and say you know me, you don't know anything about me !!!

but when it comes to celeb's, I try to not tell really, in respect for their well, famousness I suppose ...

You see (yes, molesth... already knows) but Uruha and I have actually talked some at Tagged.

or at least someone claiming to be him ... and I always thought him to be one of the prettiest guys alive ... ok it might be a fake wannabe, but he is has been very determined to try to convince me he's not a fake ... so believe what you like ... and as you can see on the print screens date stamp, this happened 2 days before I found out about myvs being married ...

(and BTW, he is hillerious about what he says about Reita... ha ha ha)

http://web.comhem.se/crystallize3/tagged/0/0100.jpg

Remixer
Mar 30, 2009, 04:00
Crystallize,

then answer me this:

If you really feel this way, why on EARTH did you throw such a freaking tantrum of jealousy over Miyavi's news?

Oh, you couldn't sleep properly and eat in three days.

My arse, Crystallize.

Yes, tell me to believe in whatever I want, because I will exactly do that and will always enjoy telling vain and attention-seeking people like you what the deal is.






Remixer

Skulley
Mar 30, 2009, 04:44
Ok I can say that it makes me sad to hear about that news
I'm not sure if any girl in the world is good enough for him...
but I'm happy if he is
he always wanted to have a baby and now he'll get what he wants

the only thing I think about is
a few weeks ago, he was very depressed
what was that about? and now he's the happiest person on earth???
don't know, a bit strange

but the best would be, if I wouldn't hear about something like this
because than I could life in my happy-dreamworld :-)

what she said, sounded that it's true didn't it?

"Actually, we were planing on coming out publicly about it when the time comes,
which was next month, after he goes independent.
But the news got out before hand and we found out about it yesterday morning also."

Redzone
Mar 30, 2009, 05:12
Remixer ^5. Being a fan of someone based on the how good you think your chances to f*ck him is......well everything you said. Although I would use shallow instead of vain. The vain part would set in when you critique someone else's looks when it's just as easy for a person to pick you apart. Unless someone here is Gisele Bundchen we should really leave looks out of it. Cause I'm sure neither of us is a perfect 10.

The hilarious/extremely naive part is if any of you think most of these other jrockers are actually single. Their relationships may or may not be as serious as Miyavi's but be rational, these guys are young, hot and have a lot of money and a whole thousands of admirers......they are banging somebody(or somebodies)....and it's not their bandmates.The only difference between them and Meev is that he actually had to the guts to tell you.

I planned on not saying anything, but there is some serious delusion going on in here.

382addict
Mar 30, 2009, 05:32
You two said what I was thinking for a long time... so remixer and redzone... I agree with you but that doesnt matter... I deleted the jref supportpage few days ago from my friendslist and I'm not going to add it again, since I am still supporting Miyavi, if he's married or not. Because for Miyavi, we all have the same chance like we had before he was married - NONE ;)

I actually also wanted to stay quiet about this but I just cant and crys, this NEVER is uruha himself and have you seen him without make up? maybe you'll think about that "one of the prettiest guys alive" (because I actually didnt recognize him without make up :D)

Remixer
Mar 30, 2009, 05:54
I'm happy to see that my rants can move people to speak up. :D





Remixer

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 30, 2009, 05:57
Is that Uruha? xD
Tnx for the MySpace links. ^^
Btw, uncle, Crys, no fighting, please... It will make me cry.

382addict
Mar 30, 2009, 06:02
Is that Uruha? xD


you dont actually believe that? :D I've been a GazettE-fan for ages and those guys arent like miyavi being online all day. if you really want to talk to uruha (and the others) you have to be a member of heresy, that's the place where they are blogging (eventually) and have their fanmail + those guys hardly speak english (except crys is talking to him in japanese^^)

Redzone
Mar 30, 2009, 06:50
you dont actually believe that? :D I've been a GazettE-fan for ages and those guys arent like miyavi being online all day. if you really want to talk to uruha (and the others) you have to be a member of heresy, that's the place where they are blogging (eventually) and have their fanmail + those guys hardly speak english (except crys is talking to him in japanese^^)

Yeah, I think we take for granted that Miyavi tries to speak english. Even then he doesn't think he's very good at it. I heard that some members of DEG can hold small convos, but I don't think any of the people mentioned would be comfortable enough to hold long conversations.

I'm happy to see that my rants can move people to speak up. :D





Remixer

LMAO. Ironic the people that hardly consider themselves fans of Miyavi are more supportive this some of his "hardcore fans". :blush:

olosta
Mar 30, 2009, 07:14
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s177/erlallosta/Untitled-1-2.jpg

just a japanese view of things..we don´t know what japanese people think about this, do we?

and another side of the coin..

382addict
Mar 30, 2009, 07:23
I dont care who she dated, she couldve dated michael jackson and I wouldnt care. Myv has to live with her, not me :D and about the family support thing...lol it's well said, really. but for some it is more than just the music, and if they want to support their musician and his family...why not? I dont really see their point, I mean you can be hurt and express it, nobody said something against it. But stopping to support the person you cared about for months/years just because he's married... or the "fans" who make this war on his myspace... thats just sick. but ah well.

olosta
Mar 30, 2009, 07:26
so, you are all right if he married her only because he knocked her up?

382addict
Mar 30, 2009, 07:30
do you know if that is true? that's just rumors. people who are jealous always spread rumors and nobody knows if that is the reason. maybe he really loves her? why is that impossible? Some just cant stand the fact that miyavi found someone he loves.

And so the japanese people know melody so well, but they didnt know she was dating miyavi? strange strange.

olosta
Mar 30, 2009, 07:38
I didn´t say it is true. It is just a possibility.
That´s why until now I didn´t say my oppinion, because I don´t know every fact yet.
And I don´t want to make assumptions, that would show as false, before we know more about it.
But as I said, I try to remain objective and collect as many infos as is possible..and as many different point of views.
Because as the person in the last post I prtsc wrote, life isn´t just about roses and flowers. There are responsibilities, which in Japan are taken totally different as here in Europe or in USA.
I try to see the whole thing (I don´t say I succeeded, but I try. Because that is the kind of person I am)

382addict
Mar 30, 2009, 07:43
Well yeah but on the other hand it is also true, that alot of people are jealous and a lot of people tell alot of BS... so we dont know anything about it. Hell, we dont even know if the whole story is true (since nothing has been confirmed yet, only the blogs of miyavi and melody show us that it seems to be true, but still nothing confirmed)... and IF he just marrys her because he got her pregnant, well, maybe their love will grow. He must've seen something in her otherwise he wouldntve slept with her. But I think only time will show us how things turn out. A fact is that miyavi loves kids and I bet he's happy for the fact that he will soon be a dad.

Crystallize
Mar 30, 2009, 07:48
Crystallize,

then answer me this:

If you really feel this way, why on EARTH did you throw such a freaking tantrum of jealousy over Miyavi's news?

Remixer


Well, this is the last time I tell you anything, just don't ever speak to me agan, I don't get what you are doing here at all, just taunting us girls for our feelings.

Just go away !!!

And I give sh*t what you think, just because I have something new going on also, doesn't mean that I didn't still have deep feeling for myvs also ...

This is of course something you could never understand, as I don't think you have the most basic idea of what love is !!!

Please just never talk to me again ! :okashii:

Remixer
Mar 30, 2009, 07:55
Wow, what a crap line of argumentation to take. I'm actually gobsmacked.

No. Don't think you can have the last word and then say "Hur hur hur, you're cut off. Don't talk to me again, loser."

It's too bad you don't get what I'm saying, because it would do you really good.

I pointed out that your "deep feelings" for Miyavi were not as deep as you made others, and possibly yourself, think they were.

Someone who has deep feelings for one person does not say "I have had a crush for this and this guy before the news came out anyway...sooo...uhhh... it was good of Miyavi to give me an excuse to forget about him."

That is bullcrap and you know it damn well.

Maybe you don't even know what love is and have yourself confused.

But in reality, I don't care. That's how low I think of you right now.

You have no integrity and that always disgusted me.

And no, I am not "taunting you girls' feelings". Just you, because you have no real feelings.






Remixer

Redzone
Mar 30, 2009, 08:17
I dont care who she dated, she couldve dated michael jackson and I wouldnt care. Myv has to live with her, not me :D and about the family support thing...lol it's well said, really. but for some it is more than just the music, and if they want to support their musician and his family...why not? I dont really see their point, I mean you can be hurt and express it, nobody said something against it. But stopping to support the person you cared about for months/years just because he's married... or the "fans" who make this war on his myspace... thats just sick. but ah well.

Agreed. Regardless of her past, He chose to accept it, so it's one him. Plus, fangirls always pretend the woman their jrocker is with is/was a huge *****. Sexual history doesn't seem to be a big deal to him. Wasn't he "friends" with a porn star a few years back?

so, you are all right if he married her only because he knocked her up?

I don't think that's why he did it though. Most following his blog noticed a change in him sometime late last year. That was probably around the time they became engaged(and he knew he couldn't talk about it) but if so.....hey, he's a man taking responsibility.*clap* If that's the only, reason they'll probably be together a year and break up(maybe not, visitation isn't guaranteed in Japan) but again I don't think that's why.

Tokyo girl <3
Mar 30, 2009, 18:40
Crys knowes japanese?! xD That's good... ;) Now she can talk to Queen Uruha the stupid Beauty. I call him like that bcuz he can't do anything by himself. :lol:

addsky
Mar 30, 2009, 18:44
i don't like Melody as well, what is more, she seems to be not "the one and the only" for Myv, who was heartbroken once.
anyway i'm gonna wait till Sunday ^^'

kukuruu
Mar 30, 2009, 19:59
Wow.... My net was cut off for two days, I'd already been away for a couple of days... I come back and **KABLAAAM!!!!** Soooooo much to read. I got through the first two pages, but now I've just skipped to the end.

@Torayuki (for you're post on 28th March 18:47) - EPIC. Perfect. Exactly what we've all been trying to say. Thanks for reading my mind and writing that post!! :D

@Crys - Nice to see you back, even if it's only temporary. On the idea of another Support page, why not keep the Miyavi one (even give ownership to someone else if you don't want it anymore), and make a general JRock one. I'd be happy with both. Just got an idea though.... Is anyone on Facebook? Might start a JRef page on there, maybe?? I don't have Myspace anymore. :P

In regards to Miyavi winning the Jrock Choice thingy - COGRATZ for having funky album art!! And I have to say, D.E.Grey did aweeeeesooommmeeee too! but I won't go off topic, *ahem*.

I still can't get my fuggin' signature to work. BREAHREIARHAIHSDKMSNAKDMNKN!!!! >:(

Miss me? Hahahahah!! *silence* I guess that's a no then lol.
Missed all!! And hi to our new posters!!
kxxxx

kukuruu
Mar 30, 2009, 20:13
Hey!! Marilyn Manson (of all people) left Meev's a myspace message...
雅さん
私は、日本の差別について調べています。
部落の問題です。昔の部落の者は、伊勢神宮にお参りが 許されなかったようです。
海外も部落差別があります。
昔の人間は、どうして自分より劣る者を作りたがるので しょう?不思議です。
調べると今の歌舞伎や相撲は、部落の者がすると書かれ ています。
私は、部落の者やその類似した人達の中に
国宝の物を作り素晴らしい人達がいると
考えます。昔の人達は、何と馬鹿げた差別を
わざと作るのか私は、理解に苦しみます。
未だに家柄の良い人達が素晴らしいと言いますが中には 、本当に人間的に素晴らしい人もいるでしょうがその人 達の先祖は、私から見れば罪悪人です。
これからの日本を変えてください。
あなたの素晴らしい芸術で日本や海外の
人達に人間の本当の愛を教えてあげてください。
私は、あなたが腐らない人間だと信じています。
私は、HIDEさんが病気の人達にも
愛を送ってくれた事をとても嬉しく思っています。
あなたは、私生活で子供ができたそうですが
おめでとうございます。まだみんなに公表していないの ですが 私は、お祝いの言葉を贈ります。
あなたは、子供の為にも素晴らしいカリスマ的存在にな らなければいけません。
あなたが若い頃から悩んだ事は、全て
あなたの財産になっていると私は、思います。
自分の苦しみがあると人の苦しみが理解できるからです 。
あなたのこれからに私は、強い期待をしています。
本当におめでとう。
あなたを心から愛しています。

kuss
MM

Please translate, the translation I found made NO sense. I know that MM speaks in a very strange, eloquent way. But damn... when translated to japanese and then back to english, it makes NOOOOOO sense!
And this next message... the person that sent it to Meev's can ROT IN HELL. It's horrible and evil to leave messages like this!!! Screw her!! :shock:

dear miyavi,

I am so sad for you that a little human come like that when your career is in a big "boom".

it is sad that you had to be her husband.

women like that should not not excist.

it is sad to live with someone that you don't love.

but I am proud of you that you will do what is good for the baby.

I think it is loud for you to read all the stupid comment when it is write "congratulations".

they did not understand nothing.
they are not true fans.

I want you to know that your real fans will support you.

Oh my god, I'm still fuggin' ill. :atchoo: Not fair!!
kxxx

addsky
Mar 30, 2009, 21:11
omg, kukuruu, thanks for this...i think the story was suspicious from the very beginning. i wonder if someone could throw light on it.
the whole Myv's world gone crazy *sigh*

ahiru
Mar 30, 2009, 22:37
So, I will throw some light on it without prejudice, so plz read this properly, to understand, OK? ... dont misunderstand me ;)

The musicians and actors in Japan are not so free, like musicians in Europe and USA.
They have strict rules, and they must follow them, and when they break the rule, they must pay really high sanctions and they are punished, sometimes, they are forced to leave showbiznes... one of the rules is: dont be public with your personal live, and yes, marriage ist FORBIDDEN - it is written in the contract. It sounds cruelly, but it is common praxis in Japan - when you want to be a star in Japan, you must pay this tribute. And I know, that all musicians in PSC company have it so. (when you wanna marry somebody, it is very hard to do that with agreement of the company, and it is very slow and forethought process, but it is not impossible!!!!!!)
By this action, his marriage before leaving PSC company, he endangered his career in Japan.
Breach of contract is in Japan understand like betrayal of community, as a result of this action can be not only damage of the name of artist, but also a discreditation of the company.
When it is true, and he is married with melody, I really admire the discreet action of PSC company. They tried to avoid scandal by so called "myv´s graduation from PSC", but the rumors were quicker and plan failed.
Why you think, is in his last blog the sentence:
"But I know that what happened is all my responsibility.
And I'm ******' stressed that I can't explain anything in japanese right now."
He is trying to protect his contract with PSC, what is futile effort now, by the way... but when he confess it before 5th, he will be forced to pay even bigger amount of money to PSC (I am sure, that he must pay something anyway for breaking his contract before time) - he looks like a fool! And a looot of his fans in Japan is angry right now - yes, they are not so happy like the fans in Europe or in US, they know better. That is why were his blogs so sad and he was so depressed in his blog, when he should be happy. He was thinking how to deal with his fans, but I am sure, that he was more afriad of peoples reaction in Japan.

And what is sadest:
You really believe, that he would be able to endanger his career so easily? That he has falled in love with melody so madly and he purposely risked his career by marrying her to have a family?
I think, that they were forced to marriage, because he knocked her up. You have an illegitimate child as a star in Japan??? - even worse like betrayal of the company, your career will end soon, when it will come to the light - be divorced and have a child, yeah, that is,but not this....(it is sad for me, because I am like that, my own mother is unmarried) In Japan, quick marriage is so often used to conceal unplanned pregnancies...
How you could be so happy in this situation? I cant be happy for him, because I am not sure, if the love between them is real!!!!

And what will be with his career in the future? I am sure, that he still wants to make music, he loves it.
But he knows, that he will be distinguish like an untrustworthy person, and it will be hard to get a new contract in different company. Thats why he will try to make his own company. He is in music industry more than 10 years... but I am not sure...how much he knows about economy and law? And his manager will be not with him to help him. Maybe, members from S.K.I.N will help him - they have their own experiences - they are very popular, and they also tried to have a normal life ... and Yoshiki has his own production company, so we will see....

Thats why I hope, that it is only rumor.... that he is not married....

P.S. Crys, I have erased Jref support on myspace, but now, when it is JRock support, can I add it again???? please please please XD

Miyavi-Lover
Mar 30, 2009, 22:39
What a horrible message with the not true fans part on his myspace T^T. I mean miyavi is clever enough to find out by himself that she is good for him to marry.

~ I read your message now Ahiru. Hmm you could be right with the forced part. But I think there is gonna be a pers conferens thing and I hope it will answer allot of our questions and we fans can see pretty good if he is happy or not when he is answering questions and stuff X3

Skulley
Mar 30, 2009, 22:49
So, I will throw some light on it without prejudice, so plz read this properly, to understand, OK? ... dont misunderstand me ;)
The musicians and actors in Japan are not so free, like musicians in Europe and USA.
They have strict rules, and they must follow them, and when they break the rule, they must pay really high sanctions and they are punished, sometimes, they are forced to leave showbiznes... one of the rules is: dont be public with your personal live, and yes, marriage ist FORBIDDEN - it is written in the contract. It sounds cruelly, but it is common praxis in Japan - when you want to be a star in Japan, you must pay this tribute. And I know, that all musicians in PSC company have it so. (when you wanna marry somebody, it is very hard to do that with agreement of the company, and it is very slow and forethought process, but it is not impossible!!!!!!)
By this action, his marriage before leaving PSC company, he endangered his career in Japan.
Breach of contract is in Japan understand like betrayal of community, as a result of this action can be not only damage of the name of artist, but also a discreditation of the company.
When it is true, and he is married with melody, I really admire the discreet action of PSC company. They tried to avoid scandal by so called "myv´s graduation from PSC", but the rumors were quicker and plan failed.
Why you think, is in his last blog the sentence:
"But I know that what happened is all my responsibility.
And I'm ******' stressed that I can't explain anything in japanese right now."
He is trying to protect his contract with PSC, what is futile effort now, by the way... but when he confess it before 5th, he will be forced to pay even bigger amount of money to PSC (I am sure, that he must pay something anyway for breaking his contract before time) - he looks like a fool! And a looot of his fans in Japan is angry right now - yes, they are not so happy like the fans in Europe or in US, they know better. That is why were his blogs so sad and he was so depressed in his blog, when he should be happy. He was thinking how to deal with his fans, but I am sure, that he was more afriad of peoples reaction in Japan.
And what is sadest:
You really believe, that he would be able to endanger his career so easily? That he has falled in love with melody so madly and he purposely risked his career by marrying her to have a family?
I think, that they were forced to marriage, because he knocked her up. You have an illegitimate child as a star in Japan??? - even worse like betrayal of the company, your career will end soon, when it will come to the light - be divorced and have a child, yeah, that is,but not this....(it is sad for me, because I am like that, my own mother is unmarried) In Japan, quick marriage is so often used to conceal unplanned pregnancies...
How you could be so happy in this situation? I cant be happy for him, because I am not sure, if the love between them is real!!!!
And what will be with his career in the future? I am sure, that he still wants to make music, he loves it.
But he knows, that he will be distinguish like an untrustworthy person, and it will be hard to get a new contract in different company. Thats why he will try to make his own company. He is in music industry more than 10 years... but I am not sure...how much he knows about economy and law? And his manager will be not with him to help him. Maybe, members from S.K.I.N will help him - they have their own experiences - they are very popular, and they also tried to have a normal life ... and Yoshiki has his own production company, so we will see....
Thats why I hope, that it is only rumor.... that he is not married....


I totally agree with you!!!
I'm not sure if he's happy with this situation...

mysticgenie
Mar 30, 2009, 22:58
Wooooow, I just left for like 10 hours and there was a war already?

Like all of you, I do not know the FACTS. I choose to remain silent and not say congratulations or anything like that. For all we know, the whole marriage thing...*gasp* might be forced.

Anyway, I just wanted to tell this to everyone.
I AM DISAPPOINTED WITH SOME PEOPLE. You probably know who you are. I guess..yeah, I was expecting too much and I failed.

addsky
Mar 30, 2009, 23:51
ahiru, you're totally right, i guess. i do think exactly the same, that's why i feel confused and not very happy about it. anyway, "he knocked her up" sounds a bit rude :relief: i can't imagine Baka-sama doing such an embarrassing thing.
and i can't believe that it happened to Miyavi. he is too much unique for me to participate such a story. hope his announcement will be more encouraging :okashii:

382addict
Mar 30, 2009, 23:55
lol people, do you know what I dont get? that some just cant take the fact that he got married. just because people cant live happy with the thought that he found love and got married they spread rumors that he was forced and everything. IF he was forced to marry her, he could've stayed as well with PSC and hide his marriage.

And also in his blog he said "Who the **** wouldn't wanna share some thing happy with his fans who are supporting him?". Does that sound to you as if he was forced to marry her?

Seriously people, if you still dont get it that he is happy with her then just stay in your small little fantasy world but unless your not miyavi himself, his wife or family - you dont know S HIT.

And I'm sure miyavi wouldnt be very happy if he knew how people talk about somebody he loves instead of being happy for him.

So, sorry for my rant but some people are just soooo...argh

olosta
Mar 30, 2009, 23:57
Ok, I fully agree with Ahiru. What more, I have to give her credits for writing what I didn´t have guts to do.
I know her, because I introduced her to Jrock and she introduced me to Myv.
We love(d?) him. I doubt anyone in this thread has more MYV related pics, PV´s music or informations than we two. I read his every blog, followed every.
And we both wished for him to find a girl to love and have a family.
But...
As was said, business is SOOOO different thing in Japanese...just how much do you know about Japan, outside Jrock? Just m´how much you know about the loyality and historical development of Japan with it´s ie-system?
Miyavi has problems. BIG problems.
What more...it is easy to marry, but what in the future? Who will support the family?
Japan is in serious crisis (even worse than Germany, maybe not as bad as USA). People lose their jobs.
Miyavi wants to start a company. Ok. Does he have enough money?
His last cd didn´t sell well, he just finished the world tour, which was expensive.
as ahirusaid, does he have enough experience to lead a company?

I am a true fan. I am really worried about his future. Because believe me, he´ll have it hard. Because the base of his fans are Japanese. And they aren´t happy at all with this situation. No the "hurt stupid fangirls", but real fans. Who wil think twice, if they will support someone, who "betrayed" his home company.

I don´t know how it ends..I hope he can manage it, because it must be a big stress now on his shoulders...just think at him silently and wait.

382addict. You are wrong. He couldn´t stay with company, once he married. Because they wouldn´t allow him to marry. because it is the rule and the end. I ask you one more time: how much you know about japanese society outside Jrock?

And no, I don´t have a problem with him getting married.
Jrockers f*ck women, some of them f*ck men, they make groupies and they are all f*cking happy. But they are clever enough to use properly the thing called "comtraception".
And IF she is pregnant, then he KNOCKED HER UP. Because else he would wait until he leaves the company and then marry. He waited 27 years, a couple months longer wouldn´t kill him.

an if you think ahiru has problem with him getting married, you are wrong again. ahiru´s nr. 1 is uruha.

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 00:08
so what if I'm wrong and he couldnt stay with PSC. He's building his own company and he will succeed because there are still enough fans out there with a brain who still support him if he is married or not. Boy you people are sometimes such drama-queens. And I know enough about Japanese society you dont have to worry about that. I just hate the fact that some people just talk the things like they want to have them. So yeah, believe what you want and if you want to believe that he just married her because he knocked her up, then believe it if you cant be happy otherwise. I dont give a ratsass about it. I personally am happy about the fact.

Lol amusing the fact that before the whole marriage thing was public, you all said "i would be soo happy if he found someone" and now he has someone you spread rumors all over and totally freak out...

And olosta: we are all true fans, we all have shitloads of pictures of him on our computer (most of us anyway) and we all followed his blogs and all... so dont tell us that we have no clue what we are talking about. We all worried about his future and were worried about his behaviour. Some of us (me personally) sat here and cried because he was unhappy. So dont do like you were the only true fan here - no offence.

addsky
Mar 31, 2009, 00:13
that some just cant take the fact that he got married
heyy :okashii: i consider myself to be an adult enough for a simple jealousy. as Olosta said, it happened in a wrong time with the ambiguous conditions. and the phrase you have put an accent on
wouldn't wanna share some thing happy
- i don't remember him to be happy for a looong time. he seems to be much concerned with the consequential problems, then just be a happy husband and father.

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 00:16
heyy :okashii: i consider myself to be an adult enough for a simple jealousy. as Olosta said, it happened in a wrong time with the ambiguous conditions. and the phrase you have put an accent on
wouldn't wanna share some thing happy
- i don't remember him to be happy for a looong time. he seems to be much concerned with the consequential problems, then just be a happy husband and father.

so you know exactly that he was concerned because of the consequential problems? you know that he wasnt just not happy because he wanted to change something or was betraying his fans by hiding that he has a gf? maybe he's with melody for years, who knows. all we know about her are rumors, nothing else. maybe they want a family for so long and it just wasnt possible? like i said, we dont know anything for sure.

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 00:21
oh...I am relieved to see, that sense is slowly returning among fans...:relief:

addsky
Mar 31, 2009, 00:25
oh, sure, i don't take such a responsibility on myself to maintain smth as the only truth. i just don't want smth to ruin everything he was struggling for in his own life and carrier. hope it'll be ok, of course (why am i so impatient? ^^)

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 00:28
this whole conversation is ridiculous anyway since we neither know if the rumors are true that he got married and is becoming a father and if they are true if he married her because he knocked her up. We have to wait til april 5th but I doubt that he will be like "oh yeah people, btw. i got married but I didnt want to, I was too stupid to have sex with her without getting her pregnant", so I guess that's a fact we'll never know, except they split up in a few months or a year and gets divorced.

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 00:29
And olosta: we are all true fans, we all have shitloads of pictures of him on our computer (most of us anyway) and we all followed his blogs and all... so dont tell us that we have no clue what we are talking about. We all worried about his future and were worried about his behaviour. Some of us (me personally) sat here and cried because he was unhappy. So dont do like you were the only true fan here - no offence.

you didn´t read properly what I wrote again, did you? Where did I say that only I am true fan AND YOU not?
I just don´t want you to accuse me (possibly, I didn´t say you did, but I don´t want to get acused of something like this, because it is obviously not true) of being jealous because he married someone, because it offends my intelligence.

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 00:32
you didn´t read properly what I wrote again, did you? Where did I say that only I am true fan AND YOU not?
I just don´t want you to accuse me or being jealous because he married someone, because it offends my intelligence.

I never said that you were jealous because he married someone. I said that in general that people are jealous and spread rumors etc... Its just really exhausting that people always only speak about the negative sides and just cant be happy for once.

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 00:37
because the world isn´t a happy place. And things like this aren´t happy things. Obviously, because there wouldn t be such an uproar.
I don´t see only the negative side. He wanted a baby. He´ll get one. That is the greatest thing, that could happen to him.
But there are consequences, that aren´t so happy at all.
and he is aware of it, you can see it in his blogs.

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 00:47
Olosta I never said that the world was a happy place. I too know that he has to take the consequences of what he is doing/did. So he had to leave PSC, but on the other hand: marriages are not the only thing PSC forbids. There are alot of constraints for the artists there. So why not seeing the building of his own company as a new abilty to make things better? Why not see it as a great chance for him to change things? Of course he struggles but who in life doesnt? The only thing that is pissing me off so much, is that people dont know anything yet for sure and already tell that he HAD to marry her because he knocked her up.

And we, as fans, can only help him through this hard time with supporting him and being there for him, nothing else. And once this war is over and people get used to it, he'll be also happier. Once his company is built he can continue making music, being a father and husband (if its true)

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 00:52
We have to wait. We will know, if she is with child, because that shows after a while, but we will never know what happened in reality, as you said.

But there are just so many things that don´t make sense.
And I said it before- I didn´t post any comment on his myspace, nor a fanmail, because I am waiting. I just express my oppinnion in the forum, because fora are existing for this purpose.
An I will support him in the future, if he will be worth of it. For the music he will make.

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 00:57
Neither did I post a comment on his myspace nor did I send him fanmail or whatever. Of course some things dont make sense... but that doesnt need to mean that he was forced or anything like it. Maybe there are totally simple explanations for everything? But we wont know unless he tells us.
And it was worth supporting him before the marriage happened (even tho he didnt make any new music for ages) so why would that change?

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 01:01
if he starts to make music I don´t like, I won´t buy his new cd. SO simple.
I will never, never ever forfeit his older works, because he was (and is) one of the most unique artist in Japan and still as hot as sexy as ever.
But if he will do things, I won´ t agree with, I won´t support him anymore.
SO simple.

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 01:03
But that's the thing with every artist, not only miyavi. If you dont like the music you dont buy the cds. that's it. That has nothing to do with the marriage at all. But things just sounded different when he wasnt married because before all this happened it was "in the future, together", think about your banners and all, now suddenly all this stopped and I'm asking myself why. And also in one of your previous posts you said we love(d) him. If you dont care if he's married or not, why the loved?

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 01:06
yeah, because I believed in him. Truly.
But I don´t anymore, because he made something, what dissappointed and hurt me.
And now I am not speaking about the marriage.
It just revealed something I didn´t see before, but now I do.
And I wish I wouldn´t, indeed.
But I will keep this to me, because you could guess easily what it is, but if you don´t...well you don´t.
But let me say...mollesty made a point about it once..and I denied it then.

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 01:12
You're right, I dont. But every person you care for sometimes disappoints you. It's like family. You love them but sometimes they disappoint you but that doesnt mean you stop loving them. And think about how many fans he has, he cant make it right for everyone but all this doesnt affect his music in any way.

Btw. I'm not going to read tons of pages back to what molestthy once said... I wont say anything about the whole thing anymore at all until we know facts.

And for Marilyn Mansons message...wow I didnt know Marilyn Manson is able to speak japanese LOL

addsky
Mar 31, 2009, 01:40
huh, i have a question btw. who knows on what concert those pics were taken and is there any videos at the net including this event?
since i'm not allowed to post links, i'll write it like this:
i39.tinypic.com /ek5c28.jpg

Miyavi-Lover
Mar 31, 2009, 02:37
Link is not working at me o.o'' its www.i39.tinypic.com/ek5c28.jpg right?

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 02:44
it is this picture:

http://i39.tinypic.com/ek5c28.jpg
but I cant help because I dont know where it's from. Sorry.

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 02:48
I don´t know the event, but the pics were taken in 2003..there are pics in Zappy from the event:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s177/erlallosta/mi01.jpg

and another pics with this look
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s177/erlallosta/3325363.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s177/erlallosta/3325371.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s177/erlallosta/3325378.jpg

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 03:08
lol that hair suits him, the first pic is too cute.

addsky
Mar 31, 2009, 03:13
aww, thanks for the help, guys! i just wanted to have a look at it in motion xD incredible Myv's appearance btw

Nan Desu Ka
Mar 31, 2009, 03:59
so did you guys hear the big news??

Look's like our meever's is getting married and is gonna be a daddy!!!

http://www.tokyograph.com/news/id-4571

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 04:01
oh, last few (actualy a lot of) pages were written about this topic...

ahiru
Mar 31, 2009, 04:04
hehe, you didnt read previous pages, right? XD

Nan Desu Ka
Mar 31, 2009, 04:04
lol just saw that

Redzone
Mar 31, 2009, 04:05
And what is sadest:
You really believe, that he would be able to endanger his career so easily? That he has falled in love with melody so madly and he purposely risked his career by marrying her to have a family?
I think, that they were forced to marriage, because he knocked her up. You have an illegitimate child as a star in Japan??? - even worse like betrayal of the company, your career will end soon, when it will come to the light - be divorced and have a child, yeah, that is,but not this....(it is sad for me, because I am like that, my own mother is unmarried) In Japan, quick marriage is so often used to conceal unplanned pregnancies...
How you could be so happy in this situation? I cant be happy for him, because I am not sure, if the love between them is real!!!!


Keyword in this sentence is: you "think". You don't know for sure what he though process is and guess what? To him maybe she was worth all of this. People have given up A LOT more to be with someone they love.

How many posts and interviews have we read in the last couple months that he's said "having a successful career isn't everything" to him? I can't see how some of you could read that so many times and not start to expect him to be married at least in the next year or so. He's been dropping hints. Really how did you not notice?

Ronealle
Mar 31, 2009, 04:11
Cute pics of miyavi

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 04:12
plus the fact that melody is american since she's from hawaii and not from japan... and he is only half japanese....so why should miyavi be forced to marry her? As far as I know it's legal in america to have children without being married^^

Ronealle
Mar 31, 2009, 04:13
Can anyone tell me if miyavi had any new albums recently

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 04:15
there was a remix album which was released on christmas last year but that wasnt really a new album of him.

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 04:16
please, just leave the topic of marriage be. I think everything was said at least twice, and we won´t come to any conclusion just to argue with each other.
It is not worth it.

ronealle: the last album is called [Room No. 382] and was Remixed by TeddyLoid (2008/12/24, just his older tracks.
You can download it here, as his whole discography:
http://japanvisualkei.blogspot.com/2007/05/miyavi-discografia.html

Redzone
Mar 31, 2009, 04:16
lol people, do you know what I dont get? that some just cant take the fact that he got married. just because people cant live happy with the thought that he found love and got married they spread rumors that he was forced and everything. IF he was forced to marry her, he could've stayed as well with PSC and hide his marriage.

And also in his blog he said "Who the **** wouldn't wanna share some thing happy with his fans who are supporting him?". Does that sound to you as if he was forced to marry her?

Seriously people, if you still dont get it that he is happy with her then just stay in your small little fantasy world but unless your not miyavi himself, his wife or family - you dont know S HIT.

And I'm sure miyavi wouldnt be very happy if he knew how people talk about somebody he loves instead of being happy for him.

So, sorry for my rant but some people are just soooo...argh

OMG, are we soulmates?LOL The amount of denial going on here is almost laughable. Like it's just impossible that Myv could have fallen in love with Melody and married her *gasp* of his own free will. He so totally can't be in love with her!! There has to be another reason!!11!!!1.....OMG, she trapped him!! :blush::okashii:

Guys, seriously. Stop looking for a reason to hate this woman and their marriage. If it's not meant to be, meev will be single again soon enough. but let that be HIS decision, not yours.

Ronealle
Mar 31, 2009, 04:19
Hey i dont mean to but in or anything but..........................is miyavi getting married

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 04:20
congratulations on founding a soulmate.
now, could we please move on, or will we once again post the same thing, and then post the same thing again?
Everything was sad, news come 5. april.

ahiru
Mar 31, 2009, 04:21
Yeah, that sentence is written with word "think" INTENTIONALLY!!!!! I hope she was worth it, but I hope, that this is not an end of his career.I have also written, that I have expected him to get married sooner or later, so? Whats wrong with my posts? I want to see him happy, and i am glad, that he will be dad, he always wanted children. we dont know anything for sure, so lets calm down. I have written only what I think.. :D

Ronealle
Mar 31, 2009, 04:22
Olosta: Thanks alot

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 04:24
you are welcome. I am a MYV database...(?)

Redzone
Mar 31, 2009, 04:26
plus the fact that melody is american since she's from hawaii and not from japan... and he is only half japanese....so why should miyavi be forced to marry her? As far as I know it's legal in america to have children without being married^^

Plus the fact that single parent child births aren't illegal in Japan. You'd think it were illegal listening to the people in here.:blush: It'd still be a choice he'd have to decided to make based on his own principles. Didn't one of the singers from newS(I'm not familiar with them just heard about it on another forum) just have twins by some underage chick and he's not married to her and not planning to?

Ronealle
Mar 31, 2009, 04:28
Miyavi got kidssssssssssssssss............................... .....lol

Miyavi-Lover
Mar 31, 2009, 04:29
Lol not yet X3 He is gonna have a kiddie soon 8D Aww can you see him hold that little baby with a loving dad face <3 So cute o 3o

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 04:31
I wonder how itll look like. If it's going to wear all those crazy clothes too....and the leggins! imagine that kid in those leopard leggins :D

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 04:35
please, just not the leopard leggins! poor little one...

wait, better leopard leggings than the flowery ones..I guess

Redzone
Mar 31, 2009, 04:35
congratulations on founding a soulmate.
now, could we please move on, or will we once again post the same thing, and then post the same thing again?
Everything was sad, news come 5. april.

Hun, if someone types something and I disagree with it....I'm gonna respond(kinda the purpose of the board). Sorry. If you don't like it, feel free to scroll past. :wave:

Yeah, that sentence is written with word "think" INTENTIONALLY!!!!! I hope she was worth it, but I hope, that this is not an end of his career.I have also written, that I have expected him to get married sooner or later, so? Whats wrong with my posts? I want to see him happy, and i am glad, that he will be dad, he always wanted children. we dont know anything for sure, so lets calm down. I have written only what I think.. :D

So why are you suprised when he gets married & try to blame it on some kind of "mistake"? Sure it came outta nowhere but why drudge up all this speculation that he was "forced" if this is something you were already expecting? :souka:

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 04:40
So why are you suprised when he gets married & try to blame it on some kind of "mistake"? Sure it came outta nowhere but why drudge up all this speculation that he was "forced" if this is something you were already expecting? :souka:

why? why?

because we are no blind&naive (as much as I wish I would be)...
but well, this is my last post about this topic, because we obviously don´t understand each other.

for those who don´t understand: I am not abandoning this thread. Just won´t commenty anything miyavi/melody related.

addsky
Mar 31, 2009, 04:40
so Melody is a half-japanese? umm...some part of my expectations came true actually xD

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 04:41
Edit again: she is half japanese but born in the U.S. so she's both. American and half japanese so now they're married we have one full japanese xD

Edit: according this weird babycreator if they have a girl, she should look like this (which doesnt look familiar to them at all buuut anyway xD)

http://biteme.lima-city.de/myvbaby.jpg

Redzone
Mar 31, 2009, 04:53
why? why?

because we are no blind&naive (as much as I wish I would be)...
but well, this is my last post about this topic, because we obviously don´t understand each other.

for those who don´t understand: I am not abandoning this thread. Just won´t commenty anything miyavi/melody related.

You're contradicting yourself. How can you say in one post "none of us know the facts, so let's not speculate", when obviously you ARE speculating if you feel as though you're not being "naive" about this(in comparison to others). :souka: If none of us know, then how am I being any more blind than you? You're assumption is no better than anyone else's.

No, I understand you perfectly.....I just don't agree.

Edit again: she is half japanese but born in the U.S. so she's both. American and half japanese so now they're married we have one full japanese xD
Edit: according this weird babycreator if they have a girl, she should look like this (which doesnt look familiar to them at all buuut anyway xD)
http://biteme.lima-city.de/myvbaby.jpg
That baby looks nothing like either of them!! :blush: Where'd that hair color come from?LOL

addsky
Mar 31, 2009, 05:02
biologically the child is supposed to be very smart, because he will be a "mix" of three different bloods (urgh, hope my explanation is ok)

molestthyguitarists
Mar 31, 2009, 05:12
hmmmm.... a lot has happened... and i seem to have missed it all. oh well.



but wait... (seeing as i am too lazy to read all of this stuff)... if they really didnt wanna marry, and she didnt wanna have a baby alone, there are such things as abortions, no??








omfg i cant believe its been 100 pages since i joined...

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 05:15
but wait... (seeing as i am too lazy to read all of this stuff)... if they really didnt wanna marry, and she didnt wanna have a baby alone, there are such things as abortions, no??


I bet there will soon be a reason found why she couldnt do that either^^


biologically the child is supposed to be very smart, because he will be a "mix" of three different bloods (urgh, hope my explanation is ok)


I wonder if it inherits the music-talent of his parents... I bet its gonna be a musician later too :D

molestthyguitarists
Mar 31, 2009, 05:21
well, i hope so. i am praying for the best for the both of them. the kid will come out brilliant - a mix is usually good, and both parents are mixed, i agree. i am wishing for the best... sorrys if i offend anyone with any of my posts.
anyways i think i will just wait for the 5th... i wanna know what Miyavi has to say...

Redzone
Mar 31, 2009, 05:23
hmmmm.... a lot has happened... and i seem to have missed it all. oh well.
but wait... (seeing as i am too lazy to read all of this stuff)... if they really didnt wanna marry, and she didnt wanna have a baby alone, there are such things as abortions, no??


I wondered the same thing. If I'm not mistaken, those are pretty common over there.

addsky
Mar 31, 2009, 05:26
I wonder if it inherits the music-talent of his parents
but you know children often have to be answerable for non-realized dreams of their parents, so if Myv has a son he will be a...football player 8D

Ronealle
Mar 31, 2009, 05:26
hey olosta where are you from

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 05:29
but you know children often have to be answerable for non-realized dreams of their parents, so if Myv has a son he will be a...football player 8D

LOL I wouldnt mind that either... sometimes children also want to do exactly the opposite of their parents so maybe he/she becomes a hairdresser or some office person (well I dont really believe *that* lol) but yeah, we'll find out...even tho i'm not sure if we even remember Miyavi in like 20 years xD

olosta
Mar 31, 2009, 05:33
Thay will have a difficult time if the child will be hyperactive like Miyavi was...but maybe it inherits melody´s nature...I think she is calmer...
LMAO EVERYONE is calmer than miyavi...

I won´t forget him until i live. How could I?

382addict
Mar 31, 2009, 05:34
boy remember that... Im really sorry for both of them if that kid is as hyper as miyavi... or even more hyper... they should keep it away from sugar in any form :D

molestthyguitarists
Mar 31, 2009, 05:40
i hope that Melody is the serene one. and if she is, i am hoping the child takes after the mother.
though i think that any child growing up with two musicians as parents will at least be a lil musical. for example, in my family there are mostly artists, engineers and everyone has at least a master's degree exept my uncle. so i was raised to be good with art, design, history and science. and everyone knows at least one instrument, so no wonder i came out musically inclined... but i am doing music cuz no one else pursued it as their career choice. so it can go either way.

kukuruu
Mar 31, 2009, 20:49
Wow. I missed so much again. Jeez, guys. Why do you all have to write so many messages when I'm gone!? LOL

Ok. The fire alarm in my building is going off, but JRef is more important for at least 10 seconds. If it's a fire, then I may be speaking to you next from a new latop lol Hope not!!!

Ok.... So I missed a lot of "culture" arguments there. I don't know too much about Japanese culture related to this, because I'm not Japanese. So even if all this stuff is true, then I'm not going to stop supporting Meever Beaver's music because I feel no obligation to. In my country, an artist's personal life makes interesting headlines, but that's it. You either like them or you don't. If they're married then fine, you keep listening to their music. If I abandoned my favourite music artists every time they got married, had kids of got girlfriends, then I would have an empty Mp3 player. Rant over.

Now I need to get out of my building. :P
kxxx

molestthyguitarists
Apr 1, 2009, 02:56
XD Miyavi first, fire later ^^ that is a good mindset. trust me, i'd be doing the same if i were you ^^

olosta
Apr 1, 2009, 03:36
the interview on Musicjapan+...
http://musicjapanplus.jp/specialfeatures/?action=detail&sf_id=120&page=1

ehm..he kinda admitted his bisexuality :P

Crystallize
Apr 1, 2009, 05:16
Some update new about the support site,
Please read !
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&bID=480316498

addsky
Apr 1, 2009, 06:08
plz, look at IT :shock: i had a heart-attack!

olosta
Apr 1, 2009, 06:14
LOL this looks a lot better than then flowery legings...

where is the photo from? Link pls!

addsky
Apr 1, 2009, 06:19
so true xDD but this pic is perfection *__*
dunno where is it from, honest. i found it on our local community without any comments...*sigh*

olosta
Apr 1, 2009, 06:38
well that is about his gratitude to the fans who support him.
Miyavi´s diary:
お前らなんてキライじゃー

How I hate all of u....



this won´t mend it, miyavi:
April fool's dayでしたー

T'was april fools~~


oh, how could I like now someone so selfish, infantile and arrogant like this?
He shits in his own bed.
ARRRRRRRRggggggHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

april´s fool my fat ***! it is the fan he needs to survive, has he gone nuts??? You don't make jokes like this when the situation is so serious!

He insulted his fans...gosh...I am so pissed off now I would break something!

F*CK F*CK F*CK F*CK F*CK

ahiru
Apr 1, 2009, 07:13
If it should be a joke, I didn't get it :(


It is not funny...


It hurts....

382addict
Apr 1, 2009, 07:52
i dont get it either...

and wow about the pic, very nice.

Edit: I think I get it now. And no, definitely not funny...not at all in this situation.

Skulley
Apr 1, 2009, 13:50
He wrote
"I don't f*cking hate you guys..."
after the april fool thing

Redzone
Apr 1, 2009, 14:35
Way too sensitive(though I wouldn't be mad if he were mad at some "fans" that left him sh-tty comments for having a life). It's April fools day.

Pic's hot. I read it's a poster or something only availible to people in Japan. For some reason he reminds me of Prince.LOL

melly_chan
Apr 1, 2009, 16:55
I don´t get that fooling thingy either...
well I don´t care anyways.... :okashii:

I read this pic is from his new "best of" cd cover or so....

addsky
Apr 1, 2009, 20:20
oh yeah, it's a cover of the special box set, what is available only in Japan. that's unfair ^^

mysticgenie
Apr 1, 2009, 21:47
Pic is hot.....XD

@melly chan: He first posted something like.."I ******* hate you guys". Then posted another blog entry that said, "APril FOol's Day"

The supposed to be joke here? He said he HATES his fans....well...as the human being that he is, maybe he does hates his fans? (not all though, i should like to think) amidst all the "hate-mail" and disappointed fanmails he might have gotten coz of the whole miyavi-melody wedding. He followed it up with April Fool's Day to say that...erm....he is just joking around and doesn't hate us all. (stirring again with the feelings of the komiyavi eh?)

Well...to some extent...it wasn't funny..but he was trying to be funny..even if the joke wasn't. Also, I remembered one saying...Jokes are half-meant to be true.

You decide.

April 5 is coming nearer and nearer...By now, maybe he should have his looong list to explain everything to fans. *waiting*

olosta
Apr 1, 2009, 23:07
just an explanation.

He really wrote " I hate you all". Nex made a mistake by translating. There is no negation in the sentence, and "omae" is a rude expression for "you"

He went too far, he shouldn´t make a joke like this. I am sure, japanese fans will take it as an offense, even if he wrote it SHOULD be a joke.

I agree with mysticgenie in that.

Miyavi-Lover
Apr 1, 2009, 23:49
Yep he really needs to explain allot @.@ And that picture is porn X3 God finally party pants again ;p

addsky
Apr 1, 2009, 23:58
omg, so sad...Miyavi is supposed to have a very nice sense of humor not to make such a foolish announcement, so i'm pretty sure that this "joke" has its negative underlying message.
i won't try to justify it, actually i already feel so tired of the whole story since the tokiograph has posted this small article. need rest till april 5 :-)

melly_chan
Apr 2, 2009, 00:28
omg, so sad...Miyavi is supposed to have a very nice sense of humor not to make such a foolish announcement, so i'm pretty sure that this "joke" has its negative underlying message.
i won't try to justify it, actually i already feel so tired of the whole story since the tokiograph has posted this small article. need rest till april 5 :-)

agree.
I am also tired of it!
This was probably a bad joke. If not ok....
I am sick of it really....
Because we are not him!!! WE DON`T KNOW!
Trying to research every single mistake is unnecessary.
And i am not waiting for april 5th because after it nothing will change for me.
Neither now nor later....

kukuruu
Apr 2, 2009, 00:44
こんにちは!!
Hi all.

My building didn't burn down... miyavi before fire, yep. molestthyguitarists, you got it spot on :P

Well Meever Beaver's April Fool's day "joke" wasn't too funny, but I guess he's too stressed to think of a real joke. But I agree with most that there are probably underlying feelings coming through what he said. It's likely that these feelings are aimed at those who have been horrible and unsupportive of him. At least he speaks his mind, I suppose. I know it's not aimed at me, so I don't really care. I didn't know that April Fool's was something that other cultures would understand. Learn something new everyday. :)

You know... I don't even care what he says on the 5th anymore. I'm quite bored of it now. I've exhausted my curiosity in this topic. I was crazy-interested at first, but not now. I have my university work to worry about. haha. yeah right... I'll give it another couple of days before I start my work.

That's probably why I havn't been on the forum as much in the last few days. I've had work to do, and I'm back at my Mum's house for a week or two. Had a weird dream about Sugizo last night though :S Odd... Anyyyywaaaayyyyy... moving swiftly on...

Still listening to Meever Beaver at the minute, as always. Just havnt been checking his blogs every 5 minutes, like I was last week. hahah.

Battery on laptops going to die in a minute, so I'm going to go and charge it. When I come back, I hope we can discuss something else about Miyavi, unless suddenly he's divorced or dead or announced something amazing. Hahahaha! I'm not too bothered what we talk about really. :P

Ahhhhhhh be back soon. :)
kxxxx

Oh and I almost forgot....

That new pic is nosebleed worthy. Hahaha! But he DOES look so much like a girl!! Why don't they make it available outside Japan, the evil bastardos! lol

addsky
Apr 2, 2009, 01:08
i like the way his eyebrows were plucked. the face looks so feminine, but still brilliant

Crystallize
Apr 2, 2009, 02:20
well that is about his gratitude to the fans who support him.
Miyavi´s diary:
お前らなんてキライじゃー

How I hate all of u....



this won´t mend it, miyavi:
April fool's dayでしたー

T'was april fools~~


oh, how could I like now someone so selfish, infantile and arrogant like this?
He shits in his own bed.
ARRRRRRRRggggggHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

april´s fool my fat ***! it is the fan he needs to survive, has he gone nuts??? You don't make jokes like this when the situation is so serious!

He insulted his fans...gosh...I am so pissed off now I would break something!

F*CK F*CK F*CK F*CK F*CK

Yes, that was a cheap shot and I think we all are just trying to survive the situation here with some dignity ...

I don't think he meant to be condescending but what ever he meant to say, it didn't come out right :okashii:

How ever I'm not "hanging by his every word" any longer, I kind of feel like I'd want to "wash my hands of it all".

But never the less what ever happens, I will go to the concert, even Stefan is looking forward to hear his music, and me too, but only that !

molestthyguitarists
Apr 2, 2009, 02:41
well that is about his gratitude to the fans who support him.
Miyavi´s diary:
お前らなんてキライじゃー

How I hate all of u....



this won´t mend it, miyavi:
April fool's dayでしたー

T'was april fools~~


oh, how could I like now someone so selfish, infantile and arrogant like this?
He shits in his own bed.
ARRRRRRRRggggggHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

april´s fool my fat ***! it is the fan he needs to survive, has he gone nuts??? You don't make jokes like this when the situation is so serious!

He insulted his fans...gosh...I am so pissed off now I would break something!

F*CK F*CK F*CK F*CK F*CK



hmm... to be honest i am not surprised.
perhaps he is talking about everyone who got caught up in the idiot festival?


in any case, i don't care.

molestthyguitarists
Apr 2, 2009, 02:46
hmmm.... a correction from Miyavi himself.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=427401169&blogId=480391237

olosta
Apr 2, 2009, 02:49
hmmm.... a correction from Miyavi himself.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=427401169&blogId=480391237


no, that is a wrong translation, but it doesn´ t really matter...
he posted a new blog, both on myspace and on oresama diary...

Miyavi-Lover
Apr 2, 2009, 02:50
Aww when I look at the video he posted in his myspace blog I'm missing those old days. Secretly missing his longer hair too X3

I wanna see like a new video of him. Hear his voice how it is now again

And oh my sexy lord look at those new fronts of dvd and box on his official site @.@ I really like the whole black blues feeling!

molestthyguitarists
Apr 2, 2009, 02:55
i hope they put it on youtube soon...

kukuruu
Apr 2, 2009, 02:59
That vid was nice. What does his blog on his official website say? And what did he say in Japanese after the vid? Something about table tennis... not sure. hahah

molestthyguitarists
Apr 2, 2009, 03:03
i dunno... my japanese is not good enough yet... -_-" my written totally sucks.

in any case i was one of the 40 people to comment. in half an hour. normally there would be 5 pages by now.

olosta
Apr 2, 2009, 03:05
of course I love you.
therefore
after this (dunno maybe) properly say (mean) " I love you"
something with song (maybe that he will sing for a long time or smt)
today again (something wit rehearsal)

not sure but something like this

kukuruu
Apr 2, 2009, 03:07
Thanks Olosta! It kinda makes sense. Hope he does keep making music for a long time! Otherwise I might have to listen to *gulp* something much worse... O.o lol

olosta
Apr 2, 2009, 03:10
I do not guarantee the accuracy...but the first sentence is clear


at least he apologized...kinda

Redzone
Apr 2, 2009, 03:10
Pic is hot.....XD
@melly chan: He first posted something like.."I ******* hate you guys". Then posted another blog entry that said, "APril FOol's Day"
The supposed to be joke here? He said he HATES his fans....well...as the human being that he is, maybe he does hates his fans? (not all though, i should like to think) amidst all the "hate-mail" and disappointed fanmails he might have gotten coz of the whole miyavi-melody wedding. He followed it up with April Fool's Day to say that...erm....he is just joking around and doesn't hate us all. (stirring again with the feelings of the komiyavi eh?)
Well...to some extent...it wasn't funny..but he was trying to be funny..even if the joke wasn't. Also, I remembered one saying...Jokes are half-meant to be true.
You decide.
April 5 is coming nearer and nearer...By now, maybe he should have his looong list to explain everything to fans. *waiting*

Yeah, I think it goes there's a hint of truth behind every joke.....something.


I'm not making excuses. I just don't blame him if he is a bit upset after reading people say they hate him, calling his child an accident and trying to make his wife into a conniving *****.....yet the same ones pitching the biggest fit are the same ones expecting him to be all "hai gaiz" :wave: like everything's cool a few days later. Meev has feelings too. You(not you,mysticgenie) guys ever think you hurt him first?


but I digress......on to the pictures. There's two more new ones meant to be covers for a DVD set and something else.

kukuruu
Apr 2, 2009, 03:13
Ooooooh more pictures.......................................... ............. *nosebleed*

addsky
Apr 2, 2009, 03:14
can i ask someone who has myspace a favor?
please, who sent a message for him in two weeks, look at the mail --> sent mail tab and look its status: read or unread. my letter is still highlighted as unread, so i'm a bit curious, if he reads fanmail and even makes posts according to them, how can it be...
maybe he chooses the random ones?

molestthyguitarists
Apr 2, 2009, 03:16
hmm. at the risk of once more getting flamed to death... well, i told you so.

ever know you're right, and were right all along, but wish you werent??

yeah.

i'm gonna lose some sleep over this no doubt tonight.

kukuruu
Apr 2, 2009, 03:19
Right? About what? My brain isn't going full speed today. :relief:
Sorry.... kxx

molestthyguitarists
Apr 2, 2009, 03:23
it was a long time before you joined when i insinuated that not only does Miyavi hate some of his fans who dont behave properly, but he makes fun of them in his songs.
at the time it was a big to do about it.
doesnt seem so unreasonable an assumption now, desu ne??
still, i've known this for months, but i'm still a fan of his. y'know why?? its cuz i like his MUSIC and if he is making fun of the idiots, okay, idiots should be made fun of. im not saying any of y'all are idiots, but as we have seen, it's a f*cking aho matsuri out there.
so if he hates me for occasionally being stupid i dont blame him, i won't flame him, and i can't hate him. he has the right to hate.

kukuruu
Apr 2, 2009, 03:27
Well. You can't expect him to love everybody right? Yeah, some fans are complete idiots and behave in stupid ways. If I was a music artist and my fans behaved in stupid ways, I'd be making fun of them too!!!

olosta
Apr 2, 2009, 03:30
no one is oing to blame you for your oppinion (at least not me)...and I say, I won´t stop to listen to the music I have from him, because I like his songs, I like his lyrics (even if they are not sincere, they are good) and I still think he is one of the most unique artist Japan ever had...
and it is partially my fault for thinking I could know him, so maybe I am a real fool.
But only as a musician ( and depends on, if I will support him in the future, of the music he makes).

But I cannot like and respect him as a person, because he went too far and thank you, I am not an idiot and I don´t like when others think me an idiot.
I still think he is arrogant and selfish jerk.
But whatever...if he makes good music, I am gonna listen to him.

ren..we had been both right..somehow....

kukuruu
Apr 2, 2009, 03:35
When I first heard Miyavi's stuff and especially when I first watched Oresama, I thought he was the most arrogant person I had ever seen. I still think he is quite arrogant. At the end of the day, the only reason he keeps his fans happy is because it's his fans that buy the live tickets and the albums, and fill his pockets.

But personally... I havnt "bought" anything from him. I "obtained" all his music. So he owes me nothing. He can be an arrogant, selfish jerk (and he will be!!)... I'm just going to listen to his music and enjoy it for what it is.

And I don't know who thinks you are an idiot, but I don't think anybody on here is an idiot. Everybody has their own opinions and they are all entitled to them.

How silly that one man way over in Japan can make us all get upset and angry at each other! :(

kxxx

olosta
Apr 2, 2009, 03:36
oh, the idiot part didn´t reffer to anyone in this thread...it was just generaly...don´t get me wrong

kukuruu
Apr 2, 2009, 03:37
oh, the idiot part didn´t reffer to anyone in this thread...it was just generaly...don´t get me wrong
Ahhhh.... okay! lol

olosta
Apr 2, 2009, 03:41
like..there is a borderline to making fun of the fans..if someone is making fun only of the really stupid ones, it is ok( well not ok, but you know what I mean). They are stupid, so they won´t know...
but when he starts to make fun of people that are not stupid, but he clearly thinks he can smart them out, it is gone too far.
And that is how I feel now he did...

molestthyguitarists
Apr 2, 2009, 03:43
I hate being right. I ******* hate it.

but, y'know, one does not have to be a great person to be a great artist.

and his lyrics are sincere, in a twisted way.

but this is why i will always pick Diru over Miyavi. If they hate something, they'll make a song where they come out and say it dammit. and y'know... the weddings arent that big drama, like with Miyavi.

whatever. i knew this already, this is not news, so i do not give a f*ck what he thinks of me. and he does not owe me anything either.

olosta
Apr 2, 2009, 03:45
I hate being right. I ******* hate it.
but, y'know, one does not have to be a great person to be a great artist.
and his lyrics are sincere, in a twisted way.
.


I hate being right as well.
But you said it just right, about his lyrics and about him being a great artist.
He is not the first and not the last..

kukuruu
Apr 2, 2009, 03:46
Yeah. Like everybody says...

"Do not bite the hand that feeds".

or

"People in glass houses should not throw stones."

He really shouldn't be making fun of the people that are providing him with an income... It's a dangerous game to be playing. But I don't know too much about him making fun of his fans.

His April Fool's "joke" was not funny at all though. He should have known better. Maybe he was angry when he wrote it, but he shouldn't be taking his anger out on the people that are buying his albums etc. :(

Well... he didn't get a single pound/dollar/yen from me. heheheh.
kxxxx

molestthyguitarists
Apr 2, 2009, 03:48
well, i will buy the cds anyway. i dont care. im not that great a person either. whatever.


john lennon and the beatles had made statements about hating their fans also. and theyre the f*cking greatest band on earth appareantly. myvs is just following in the footsteps of the greats. -_-"

Redzone
Apr 2, 2009, 04:06
it was a long time before you joined when i insinuated that not only does Miyavi hate some of his fans who dont behave properly, but he makes fun of them in his songs.
at the time it was a big to do about it.
doesnt seem so unreasonable an assumption now, desu ne??
still, i've known this for months, but i'm still a fan of his. y'know why?? its cuz i like his MUSIC and if he is making fun of the idiots, okay, idiots should be made fun of. im not saying any of y'all are idiots, but as we have seen, it's a f*cking aho matsuri out there.
so if he hates me for occasionally being stupid i dont blame him, i won't flame him, and i can't hate him. he has the right to hate.

Hate's a strong word. I don't think he "hates" anyone, but I wouldn't be surprised if he got annoyed every now and again. He's human. Some fangirls act like he's God and his words, gospel. Then there are those that, even though he gives a lot of himself, still want more of him, like they own him.

Some of the things I've read/ head from fangirls annoy me to, so yeah.LOL

Crystallize
Apr 2, 2009, 04:08
i dunno... my japanese is not good enough yet... -_-" my written totally sucks.
in any case i was one of the 40 people to comment. in half an hour. normally there would be 5 pages by now.


I read the post immediately, I could had been on the first 10 to comment it, but I decided not to comment at all !

I certainly have no problem leaving him alone, *I still got some pride left* http://web.comhem.se/crystallize3/smilies/90/0010/1/70.gif

olosta
Apr 2, 2009, 05:15
post edited, just because

ahiru
Apr 2, 2009, 05:33
Hate's a strong word. I don't think he "hates" anyone, but I wouldn't be surprised if he got annoyed every now and again. He's human. Some fangirls act like he's God and his words, gospel. Then there are those that, even though he gives a lot of himself, still want more of him, like they own him.
Some of the things I've read/ head from fangirls annoy me to, so yeah.LOL

He doesnt hates his fans, but he thinks, that he can hurt their feelings and they will just think... Oh how funny... stupid fangirls are like that - everything, what their idol do is cool, so he can offend them like he wants. It is sad, that he thinks, that all his fans are so stupid.
Personally, I used to consider myself as Miyavis fan, and it offend me, that he thinks I am stupid. It is humiliating. And I have given him my time, admiration, and trust... if it means nothing, so he owes me nothing.

I cannot like and respect him as a person, because he went too far and thank you, I am not an idiot and I don´t like when others think me an idiot.
I still think he is arrogant and selfish jerk.
But whatever...if he makes good music, I am gonna listen to him.


I totally agree with you!

And poor girl.... its sad that she have to delete her account

olosta
Apr 2, 2009, 06:41
post edited, because

382addict
Apr 2, 2009, 06:54
To be honest. I'm sick of it/him. Not of his music, not of the person himself. I dont care what he thinks about his fans. If he doesnt like some of them, I cant blame him, I dont like most of them either because some behave like selfish, stupid fangirls. Others are great, whatever. I'm just sick of the whole thing. Of talking about his marriage, if he likes his fans or not, what he thinks, what he feels...and all this. If he hooked melody up, if he loves her, if he was forced to marry her or not...I dont give a s.h.i.t. anymore because talking about all this over and over and over again is exhausting and boring.

So I dont post as often anymore. I still love him. No matter what (because it really doesnt bother me if he is an arrogant selfish idiot, which he sometimes has to be or if he's that caring guy, if he loves his fans or not...what-ever!) I still like his music, but I'm tired of all this and I dont care anymore either what he has to say on April 5th.