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noranora
Nov 10, 2006, 12:14
Hi there everyone! I'm new here.
My grandmother was born and raised in Japan. Last year, I spent a year abroad in Japan where I stayed with host families, but met with my grandmothers siblings and other relatives. I speak Japanese, so I was able to form a relationship with them, which went very well, and I became partivularly close with my younger second cousins. I'm sure that my great aunt would be willing to adopt me if it would further my education. I am thinking of applying to college in japan, but I would like to work there while in college to make things easier financially.
I'm wondering if it is possible to be adopted by japanese citizens being an american citizen? If anyone knows more about the japanese law (I went to highschool, and didn't learn much on that sort of thing) or had any ideas about it, I would appreciate any information. Thanks!
Mikawa Ossan
Nov 10, 2006, 12:30
I think it should be possible, although off the top of my head, I don't know much about this topic. I know more about what happens AFTER one gets adopted. If I get time (not this weekend, for sure!) I'll see what I can find. Otherwise, there are others here who are probably more knowledgeable than I.
Ewok85
Nov 10, 2006, 13:31
If the plan is to get adopted to get into school or get a visa it might be a bit of a no-show. Getting into a Japanese university can be far easier when done as an exchange, and leaves you able to get a scholarship to pay for what is a very, very expensive experience.
noranora
Nov 10, 2006, 13:53
Thanks for your help, guys!
pipokun
Nov 10, 2006, 20:02
You are sansei, right? I think it is far easier to get permanent resident status than adoption.
noranora
Nov 11, 2006, 07:00
You are sansei, right? I think it is far easier to get permanent resident status than adoption.
That's actually what I was thinking. I'm sansei, but I only have 1 japanese grandparent. I think the official definition of sansei includes having 4 japanese grandparents but parents who were both born in the states. If I'm wrong about that rule, please correct me. I'll love you even more. ^^
Mike Cash
Nov 11, 2006, 17:49
May I suggest you contact the Japanese embassy or a consulate?
epigene
Nov 11, 2006, 19:10
I think the other posters have given good suggestions already, but I'll post what I found out about adoption of a foreign national.
Under Japanese law, adoption is not going to give you Japanese citizenship. You still need to go through the naturalization process that may take (at least 5) years. It has a lot of paperwork involved, gathering documents and certificates both in the US and Japan. So, you will have to deal with visas the same way other foreign nationals do during your first 5 or more years in Japan.
People of Japanese ancestry have a special visa category (Nikkei-jin), but most who apply are from China, South America, etc. Here, a lot of paperwork is involved, since you have to prove that you are certainly of Japanese ancestry. You will need lot of copies of birth certificates of your family to trace your blood line to your Japanese grandparent. But, once you get this visa, you're able to study and work here.
Both of these are troublesome but allows you to extended stays in Japan. However, these visa statuses do not grant you preferential treatment for university entrance. Since you are not an exchange student, you may have to compete against native-speaking Japanese students on an equal footing, which is impossible if you don't have near-native fluency and exhaustive preparations for the entrance exams. There might be special programs in some universities, but you still have to pay your way through it.
If you come as an exchange student, you are treated that way, and you fall in a category apart from the Japanese students, gaining access to special Japanese language programs for foreigners to help you assimilate into the Japanese study environment. As Ewok has suggested, you might be able to gain scholarship of some kind to fund your study in Japan.
So, all of these options have their positive and negative aspects, and the details must be checked out thoroughly. (What I wrote here is very general and there might be errors in what I think I know.)
As Mike said, it is best for you to consult your nearest Japanese embassy or consulate about visa status and do some research on exchange programs and financial aid.
:-)
Gentleman10
Nov 11, 2006, 19:56
Good luck on your citizenship :)
Mike Cash
Nov 11, 2006, 20:33
Good luck on your citizenship :)
Citizenship is altogether an entirely different matter.
nurizeko
Nov 28, 2006, 03:19
I would assume Adoption is the desperate last resort....
Sorry, simply, I was adopted, and tis not a light matter, Adoption is ussually to help those kids without parents or parents who dont want them, and childless families or families that want to enlarge it.
You should probably think long and hard about considoring abusing adoption law just for education....
Finally what exactly do you hope to acheive from university? like what subject?.
Is there a university that teaches it better elsewhere, perhaps in the states?.
If Japan is the place to be, exchange student deal sounds good, either way I can only second that you consult a consulate/embassy, they will be more qualified to awnser your questions.
Just remember, as has been said, going to Japan and trying to compete as a normal Japanese means you wont get special treatment or even a few perks on offer for foreigners who go to japan in that capacity, and from all I have seen heard and read, the Japanese educational establishment isnt a cakewalk.
I'm not sure about Japanese universities but western universities train people with an academic interest or ambition in a specific feild, the Japanese education system seems more along the lines of churn workers out for the Japanese economy.
If you go there I wouldnt expect overly engaging debates or any of the typical uni stuff.
But then again I havnt went to uni in Japan. :blush:
jonathancameron
Dec 18, 2006, 09:29
Hi there everyone! I'm new here.
My grandmother was born and raised in Japan. Last year, I spent a year abroad in Japan where I stayed with host families, but met with my grandmothers siblings and other relatives. I speak Japanese, so I was able to form a relationship with them, which went very well, and I became partivularly close with my younger second cousins. I'm sure that my great aunt would be willing to adopt me if it would further my education. I am thinking of applying to college in japan, but I would like to work there while in college to make things easier financially.
I'm wondering if it is possible to be adopted by japanese citizens being an american citizen? If anyone knows more about the japanese law (I went to highschool, and didn't learn much on that sort of thing) or had any ideas about it, I would appreciate any information. Thanks!
のらのらさん、貴方はまだ未成年ですから、二重国籍を 取る権利があるのです。22歳まで日本国籍とアメリカ の国籍を両方問題なく法律的に取れるので、取っといて ください。 日本で大学を行ったら、日本人の男の人と 一緒に結婚をした場合に、日本の国籍を選ぶ権利がある のです。 私なんか、丸々白人な為に、絶対日本じんに なれる資格は殆どないだろう。 貴方は、JLPTのLV1な か、簡単に取れるはずです。 私みたいに、日本語を wぶ苦労も全然しなくて良かった為に、一般的の日本人 フ相手と見分けられないほど上手になることが簡単にな 黷ワす。 その代わり、貴方は日本人達の文化の習慣を 齡ハ的の人々と見分けられないほど上手に学ばないとい ッないプレッシャーが我々白人さん達が学ばなければいけないレベルよりも 大変だと思います。 貴方には私達ほど多目に見てくれ ないので、帰国子女達ほど厳しい目に会うかもしれませ ん。 それでも、日本人達がそう貴方に日本の文化の習 慣を学べと押し込められるかもしれないけれれども、日 本人達は貴方には教えて上げようとする気持ちがあるだ けで、仲間に入れてあげようとする愛情と認めて一生懸 命遠慮なく学んで下さい。 我々白人達なんか、同じよ うに優しく教えてくれる相手も滅多にいない為に、幾ら 頑張っても、我々達は、世間の風に激しく浴びながら、 失敗を沢山しながら、大変苦労をしてきたのである。 此れだけ覚えてください。特に、自分のアメリカ人とし ての自己精神を肯定的に遠慮なく表したいときとか、仰 々しく苦しく本音と建前を使うのがいやになって疲れる ときに、私の伝えていることを覚えてください。
せっかくですから今のうちに日本の国籍を、御祖母ちゃ んと一緒に日本人の国籍をもらいに行って下さい。
Mike Cash
Dec 18, 2006, 12:20
She abandoned us over a month ago, Jonathan.
violetcrumble
Jan 3, 2007, 18:48
I would assume Adoption is the desperate last resort....
Sorry, simply, I was adopted, and tis not a light matter, Adoption is ussually to help those kids without parents or parents who dont want them, and childless families or families that want to enlarge it.
You should probably think long and hard about considoring abusing adoption law just for education....
Adoption in Japan means something else entirely to what you are talking about. The easiest way to translate the Japanese word into English is "adoption" but it isn't accurate.
Tradionally it was very common for parents-in-law to adopt their daughter's husband in order to keep the family name. Adoption of adults at any age also occured in order to build power between families.
Adult adoption still occurs in present time. My Japanese friend's husband, at the age of 28, was adopted by a wealthy childless couple who wanted their family name to continue. I also read in another forum of an American gay man whose boyfriend's mother adopted him so that he could remain in Japan.
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