Why is Yaoi Appealing

[Gentleman10]

Ok, I just can't figure it out. Why in the world do girls (guys?) like this stuff and how do they appreciate it? I fail to find anything artistic in Yaoi, because it's two guys making out on stage! Really, to me, this is no better than girls watching two gay men kissing, so why do people find this acceptable/amusing/entertaining.
In your answer please make to specify, why you find it entertaining and how it entertains you. I've seen so many posts just saying "soo cute~" etc., but I never see a reason... it just casts me deeper into the quandary. :clueless:

[Child_prey]

Guys kissing on stage, so I guess you mean fanservice then?
For me fanservice and yaoi are two seperate things, mostly because in fanservice they are faking it and in yaoi they are really gay...
But to answer your question; two men together is fun to watch because they are men and we are straight women who get happy over that type of things.
We like to see pretty boys doing naughty things to eachother.

Don't you find two women amusing?
It's the same as that just with guys.

[Ma Cherie]

Ok, I just can't figure it out. Why in the world do girls (guys?) like this stuff and how do they appreciate it? I fail to find anything artistic in Yaoi, because it's two guys making out on stage! Really, to me, this is no better than girls watching two gay men kissing, so why do people find this acceptable/amusing/entertaining.
In your answer please make to specify, why you find it entertaining and how it entertains you. I've seen so many posts just saying "soo cute~" etc., but I never see a reason... it just casts me deeper into the quandary. :clueless:

For starters yaoi just isn't two guys making out on stage. You're thinking of fanservice yaoi. Another point, is the thing about yaoi is that the men don't have to be gay (and often times, they're not).

How it entertains me? Well, I like it. Yaoi has always fascinated me, especially the stories and the artwork. There is also some history behind yaoi that have alot to do with homosexuality in Japan.

You ask whether this is acceptable, well it doesn't bother me the least when two young men are kissing. I do know that it bothers alot of other people.

There is alot to this genre and people have actually tried to figure out why girls in their mid to late teens and women in their twenties find yaoi appealing. There are many different reasons why it's appealing. One reason for example is that young women (I'm talking about American young women) like yaoi because it offers them something that American comics generally don't. And as you know, American comics cater mainly to a male audience.
Personally, I don't understand why women who like yaoi have to explain why they find it appealing. But you wanted to know.

[nasdaq100]

Is homosexuality visible in Japanese society,one would think it's swept under the carpet in a conservative Asian nation like Japan ?


Dick Girl manga series is one mind boggling otaku sub-culture :p

[Uncle Frank]

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Don't you find two women amusing?
It's the same as that just with guys.

Now I will admit, I like watching women "getting it on" togeather, BUT, it is always in the back of my mind "If they would only try it with me" I could show them a much more fun time! Guess it is a generation/macho thing to think that way?

Uncle Frank

:okashii:

[Swordforhire]

Um...because I'm a (somewhat young?) gay male? Actually, I like seeing less "restrictive" affection, whether it's on stage, tv, or books. Growing up in the 80s in a western society where such things were condemned, it's refreshing to see such things. Then again, seeing a vocalist go down on his guitarist is just hot (usually). ;) See, I'd have to ask most people, and I have, just to be a *****, why straight porn keeps their attention, and how.

Luckily, not everyone likes the same things.

[Nana007]

Well It appeals to me personally in that its like something forbidden you know. Also Fanservice is different in that they aren't gay. Just faking it as many others have seen.

[Camui]

Hmm...I don't think I've ever thought of why I find it appealing. I guess I just do, though I do agree that the whole forbidden factor probably has to do something with it. I do like the storylines a lot, hence why I sometimes write and read yaoi fics most of the time. Still, I wish I could explain it in detail to you so that you could gain more understanding, but really, it's just hott.:blush:

I'll think on it some more and if I come up with anything else I'll be sure to come back and make a post about it. ^.^

[vidooru yuen]

Don't you find two women amusing?
It's the same as that just with guys.

well here we go again.. i not only like yaoi/fanservice, but i find it extremely stimulant. but that just me.. maybe i am really a pervert but heres the thing. in this society (any society) two girls makin out is absolutely amusing and those things but two guys in the same situation is disgusting. so i wonder why. machism should be past.. so why if my boyfriend fantasy is seing me with one of my friends, mines cant be seing him with his best friend too?? it just anoying and immature...

[Sid]

Well, in my case, if i'd see for example Miku or Kanon kissing a women,i'd be yealous. But if i see Miku kissing Kanon, that's really cute, since i find both of them very attractive, and i know that the chanses i'd ever meet kanon or miku in real life are extremly small. XD

[Angel_belial]

Ok, I just can't figure it out. Why in the world do girls (guys?) like this stuff and how do they appreciate it? I fail to find anything artistic in Yaoi, because it's two guys making out on stage! Really, to me, this is no better than girls watching two gay men kissing, so why do people find this acceptable/amusing/entertaining.
In your answer please make to specify, why you find it entertaining and how it entertains you. I've seen so many posts just saying "soo cute~" etc., but I never see a reason... it just casts me deeper into the quandary. :clueless:
Why do girls like Yaoi.

Answer: Because it's hot. ^ ^ It's just the total opp. of guys that like Yuri but us girls, don't understand why some guys think that girlongirl is hot. ^ ^ That is how life works. XD

[miri_kusumoto]

I agree Girls like it cos it's hot!
mmmm yaoi.....:blush:

[TwistedMac]

Don't diss the chicks that dig guys kissing.
I've gotten more than one girl to bring me home by tounging my mate on the dancefloor.
That's right, I admit it.

Besides, is there anything hotter than two girls kissing? It's simple math really.
One girl is hot. One girl engaging in an activity that implies all sorts of sexual things is hotter.
So what you get is hotter*2.

Rationally it doesn't make sense, but it just is great.

I don't know why girls want to see guys kissing though. Let's face it, We're not hot. I'm just happy that they do.

[hideway]

I find public gay behaviour disturbing to say the least.
Still, people have the right to do what they want or like, who am I to say otherwise.
Lesbianity by other hand, it's an entirely different world. :-)

[Ma Cherie]

I find public gay behaviour disturbing to say the least.
Still, people have the right to do what they want or like, who am I to say otherwise.
Lesbianity by other hand, it's an entirely different world. :-)

Well of course you'll believe this, because you're a guy.

It's always a guy who says, "Man I don't understand why some girls think two guys kissing is hot." "But two girls on the other hand." What annoys me about this is that men don't have to explain why they find two women together attractive. So, why should we?

[Rancid__]

I can't really explain why I like it, but I think it's the same with a guy when he sees two girls making out.It's the same when girls see two guys.
For me, it's the same thing, and two guys kind of turn me on, maybe I'm a pervert or something. But it's just thrilling for me:blush:
Fanservice is not gay, it's hot

[Sarah Jane]

It's yummeh.
That's why.


I find yaoi and yuri appealing.
:p

[nurizeko]

I've gotten more than one girl to bring me home by tounging my mate on the dancefloor.
That's right, I admit it.

This is such a universal stunt its unbelievable, its amazing how girls fall for this so utterly, for a minute of tonguing a mate you get a whole night of hetero fun, its so cool. :p

It's always a guy who says, "Man I don't understand why some girls think two guys kissing is hot." "But two girls on the other hand." What annoys me about this is that men don't have to explain why they find two women together attractive. So, why should we?

Kinda like how many women wonder why guys find two chicks kissing so great.

I would advice perhaps not acting like this is a gender specific thing, you women are no different then men, you just cant admit it. :cool:

[Ma Cherie]

I would never act like it is a gender specific thing. Well, I really don't think it is anyway. :blush:

[Morning Masamune]

I like fanservice because it's the only time I see hetrosexual men being affectionate to one another.
Most times around here all the guys think they have to constantly prove their manliness by kicking the beejesus out of eachother.
So, yeah, it's nice to see guys that don't care about being macho and that will happily hug/kiss their friend.

[Kinsao]

Imo there r different reasons for it:
1. Same as why guys like girl-on-girl... one hot guy = sexy; two hot guys doing sexual things = sexier.
2. [generally for younger women/girls] Getting a kick out of seeing sexy goings-on between hot guys (as above) but without the "threat" of having to engage with it themselves... if the guys really are gay, they won't be interested in her...
3. What Morning Masamune said ^^ - girls liking the idea of a kind of 'affection', 'friendship' sort of 'love', together with a sort of idea that the 'ideal' man doesn't have to be all macho but could be gentle and sensitive and that kind of thing.

Phew, all this 'analysis' from someone who isn't even into yaoi/shounen-ai/fanservice... :souka: (I don't like competition, not even same-sex competition... :okashii: :D )

[furan]

hmm.... perhaps a little history would be relevent here....

i dont' know whon knbows this, but i'm gunna say it anyways, cos i like sounding smatr :poh: XD

basically... waaaaaaaay back when Japan was under 'lock down' as it were, an women were still being 'sold' and such... there were places called 'pleasure quaters' (basically ***** houses). sex was basically the most common pass time in Japan, and the plesure qaters were one of the welthiest industries around... and often centered around the aristocrasy and high government of Japan too. anyways... to get to my point...

preiset were not aloud to consort with women (well, they coudl talk to them but that was it) however, in theri religions teachings, tehre was nothing disalowing them to interect with males. the plesure quaters would compromise to this, and often took in young boys and dressed them to look like girls. the priests could do whatever they wanted with them and everyone whent home happy (though i can imagin the young boys weren't quite so 'happy' ^^; )
anyways... we all forget that Japan wasn't brought into civilisation under christina teachings and rulles like most developed worlds were. homosexuality wasn't a bad thing there... mind you... faithfulness was... if a man was faiful to one woman he was told to pull himself together and get a misstress ^^; but still... no-one though any worse of 2 guys together, and as for women, it was oftn the case that the older women in the pleasure quaters would teach the younger ones the ways of 'pleasing a man' ^^;

... actually, the term 'yuri' used for the girlXgirl henai style comes from the name of a lesbian tribe in Japan... which makes more sence when you think about it... because why they'd call it 'lilly' i have no idea ^^;

but yeah... enough about that...

what is so hott about 2 guys kissing?
ezactly the same about 2 girls kissing... the fact that it >is< so 'out of the norm' is a big thing, everyone wants what they can't have, and when somethings wrong, that instantly makes you want it... simple reverse psycology.

someone mentioned before that when they watch 2 girls they think it's hott but want to join in... imagin if you KNEW those girls were doping it... just to get your attention... it had nothing to do with the fact that they were attracted to eachother, it was simply to get yourattention and your reaction...
that's what fanservice is... you watch Miyavi... when he kisses another guy on stage... the grils scream madly... THIS really excites him, so he does it more...
it's all simply in the fact that they KNOw the girls love it, so they do it, just to get them all worked up, and in tern, so do they...

am i making sence?
of course this is waht i believe....
but when guys kiss other guys when you KNOW they straight... i dunno... it's like they'er saying 'i'll kiss anything' or 'i'm so completely confortable with my sexuality'
there's just something about a guy willing to do something like that and not be like 'omigod i just kissed another guy that makes me gay, omifgod i'm a homo ahhhhh *kills self*
... err... well something like that ^^;

well... yeah, that's me ^^;

[dorikura]

yaoi is more than hot!There is something attractive to every woman with the sece of sexuality (not homosexuality) to feel high seeing two bishies ( who the most of jrockers are)!
It's nothing unnetural!I'm straight and had a lot of boyfriends but still I like watching them kissing eachother!
(if I would date Miku I would never mind to see him kissing Bou or Kanon or Teruki...cuz it's a fanservice and that's more like brotherly kiss...since they are together for soo long)
Seeing them kissing eachother make you want to join them!;/*_*

[A-chama]

Hum... Yaoi and Fanservice... :hum:

I can't really say (or explain) WHY I like seeing that kind of thing...

And I don't think most people know why they do either. Yes the fact that it seems 'forbidden' is, shall I say, 'seductive' (?) to us and as some people have put it One hot guy(or girl) x another hot guy(or girl) is well, just that much hotter!:blush:

But I like it more then just because it's hot, though I can't really pin point why or anything. Yaoi stories to me just have that little something extra that make them seem different from other genres(though I read pretty much anything provide it catches my attention!) and the Fanservice, it just THAT much different from all those bands we have here and that the media pollutes our stations with.

We all want to see something different (that's we read things like mangas, that's why we look at Foreign music) and for some, I think, that's just what ended up being the most attractive thing.:-)

[Dean]

Ahh I had to post a reply on this...
It's always a guy who says, "Man I don't understand why some girls think two guys kissing is hot." "But two girls on the other hand." What annoys me about this is that men don't have to explain why they find two women together attractive. So, why should we?
Good point there. It annoys me how 2 guys and 2 girls kissing etc. is any different, apart from the sexes. Or any different from a guy and girl, if we're talking about this in a heterosexual or homosexual way.
Ticks me off damn it :okashii:
the fact that it >is< so 'out of the norm' is a big thing
I don't think it is 'out of the normal'. 2 guys, or 2 of the same sexes kissing etc. has been going on for a very very very long time now, and it has gone on for so long that is SHOULD be a normal thing. Seriously, think about it...
Ah I had to say that.. Things like these annoy me. I wish people would accept homosexuality as such and just get over all of it. That's for people who are disturbed by this kind of thing.
Mmmk :)

[A-chama]

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Ah I had to say that.. Things like these annoy me. I wish people would accept homosexuality as such and just get over all of it. That's for people who are disturbed by this kind of thing.
Mmmk :)

Hum... I agree with you Dean, but people don't accept it because.... I mean what fun would that be? Right!?!?! I think people just don't WANT to stop disagreeing. But whatever I just ignor people that are bothersome like that.

[furan]

I don't think it is 'out of the normal'. 2 guys, or 2 of the same sexes kissing etc. has been going on for a very very very long time now, and it has gone on for so long that is SHOULD be a normal thing. Seriously, think about it...
Ah I had to say that.. Things like these annoy me. I wish people would accept homosexuality as such and just get over all of it. That's for people who are disturbed by this kind of thing.
Mmmk :)
lol... um.... i don't think homosexuality is out of the norm....
i think two guys dressed as girls playing music and making out with eachother on the stage.... and insome cases getting carried away is 'out of the norm'.....
you generally dont' even see that with the male and femals band members... o.O
and it's somethign that is kinda spacific to Japan... there are some other bands that di fanservice-y type things....
and a lot of emo bands do now cos they caught on o the fact that 'it's hot' but they over play it a bit >.<

i... i also completely agree with you that people SHOULD accept homosexuality because it's something that has been arround for.... longer than christianity....
half the romans were gay before they introduced catholisism... just obviously they figured it was kinda foolish to devote your life to a guy cos you wouldn't get any offspring...
but that was at a time when offspring was like a crutial thing....
now it really doesn't matter... and the world would probably benifit if all closit gays quite prettending cos of the whole over popluation thing >.<

lol... waw, i don't know WHERE i'm going with this i'm justy rambling on ^^;

basically yes... people should not be ashamed of who they are and what they like/don't like... they should just do what feels natural to them ^.^

[San_Yumi]

okay, besides all the homosexuality snuff...o.O
for me, its like what child prey said...

Thats my thoery, guys can enjoy 2 girls making out, why cant girls enjoy 2 men making out without it causeing an uproar... i find it sorta fasinating.
so, ive decided the reason i read yaoi, is because its difrent, im sick of seeing 2 girls going at it, its icky.

but, ive only read Legal Drug by Clamp

:bluush:

[furan]

lol
i, personally, wouldn't calss that as Yaoi and more shonen-ai.. because my understanding of Yaoi is that it's hentai... and even though the clamp girls are very much so frustrated... they're not >that< frustrated ^^;

... still, if you're talking about why i read Yaoi... it's because the stories are so damn hillerious...

i mean, i'm talking propper hard core Yaoi...
basically it goes

'hi, i'm hiroshi i lost my dog'
'hey, i'm agent satoshi, i'll help you find it'
'where do you think it could be?'
'we'll have to spend all night looking'
'you're so pretty'
'so are you'
'i love you'
'you're my soal mate'
*much screwing*
'yay, you found my dog! i really love you Satoshi'
'i love you too hiroshi'
*much screwing*
*a funny punn too sum up*


....... WHANT WOULD LIFE HAPPEN LIKE THAT!?!?!

it's the same with any prono i guess.... but they just scare me because... they're scarey *shudders*
yaoi's just funny....

[c1nnamon]

It's yummeh.
That's why.


I find yaoi and yuri appealing.
:p


yeahh :wave:
yuri ftw!!

seriously, i think there is some kind of Japanese conspiracy- because in my country a lot of boys, who even don't watch anime start looking like they've just stepped out from a yaoi episode...it's just fashion... and the girls love it!!
everywhere around the world the men become more and more metrosexual and I don't know hao is it going to end... gays in club culture have become more popular than ever...

From my point of view, the girls prefer feminised men because they seem more kind and gentle... or maybe we like the thought that we could be the girl who would change their sexual orientation (but keep your appearance, boy!) :cool:

[furan]

o.... if you're going on the whole appearence thing...
well... girls are blatantly 'prittier'... therefor guys that can look like girlks are consiquently 'pretty'
so... it's the whole pretty boy thing...

actually, it works any way, if you think of any of the 'pretty boys' of wester culture, and try and imagin them dresed as women... they'd look pretty convincing... (lol, yes, i have no life and i sit in my room thinking these things through far too much XD) it's the howl smooth lines and soft features thing...

however, some girls go for the complete opposite and like the big hairy manly type.... generally not your typical anime fan i might add ^^;

and the whole thing about it being everywhere? well, i don't know about over there, but over here the emo culture (i mean the 'new' emo) have cought onto the fact that guys kissing is hott, and so they do it all the time... the girls (i know a lot of them) don't actually think it's that hott, but they go a log with it cos they're emo... but actualyl i've found it to be the case that the emo scene here at least is taking so much from the VK system... weather they know it or not... it's a little annoying really, but only because i hate sheep (well, not sheep, cos i'm a sheep, but... you knwo what i mean)

[Mcspi]

I am not sure. Maybe it is because they are showing they are sensitive and loving just in a more pda way. Just a guess. who really knows?

[A-chama]

I think everyone likes Yaoi or Yuri for his or her own reason. One way of thinkin isn't nessecairly right or wrong.

[BlackSoul]

I think there are many reasons why you like Yaoi/fanservice. For me there are several:
It's cute when two sexy and cute guys are kissing each other and their also some kind of sexual attraction seeing two guys making out with each other (the same when guys see two girls together). Also it's the fascinating of something "forbidden" and not really "normal" (although I agree that it should be normal). And if they're really gay I feel happy for them finding a partner. There's also this little thought of "If I can't have them no other girl should have them so it's better to "loose" them to boys" (<-- I know it's kind of stupid and childish but that's what's going around in my head :p)
Mcspi:
I agree. It's wonderful too see that those boys have a sensitive site and can show their feelings (although most of the fanservices are "fake" since most j-rocker are not gay) and are not like the boys around you always paying attention not to show too many feelings and being "manly"(at least the boys I know do that and it annoys me).
A-chama:
That's totally right. Every opinion is right and you shouldnt have to defend it. Everybody can think and like what he/she wants.

[RevengeBabyYeah]

what is so hott about 2 guys kissing?
ezactly the same about 2 girls kissing... the fact that it >is< so 'out of the norm' is a big thing, everyone wants what they can't have, and when somethings wrong, that instantly makes you want it... simple reverse psycology.
someone mentioned before that when they watch 2 girls they think it's hott but want to join in... imagin if you KNEW those girls were doping it... just to get your attention... it had nothing to do with the fact that they were attracted to eachother, it was simply to get yourattention and your reaction...
that's what fanservice is... you watch Miyavi... when he kisses another guy on stage... the grils scream madly... THIS really excites him, so he does it more...
it's all simply in the fact that they KNOw the girls love it, so they do it, just to get them all worked up, and in tern, so do they...
am i making sence?
of course this is waht i believe....
but when guys kiss other guys when you KNOW they straight... i dunno... it's like they'er saying 'i'll kiss anything' or 'i'm so completely confortable with my sexuality'
there's just something about a guy willing to do something like that and not be like 'omigod i just kissed another guy that makes me gay, omifgod i'm a homo ahhhhh *kills self*
... err... well something like that ^^;
well... yeah, that's me ^^;

Totally agree with this. Also it's about them showing off their sexuality- kinda like, if i can do this with a guy imagine what i'd do with a girl :p

[A-chama]

Yes, I think you got it XD That sounds right~ The only thing I hate, is people that understand fanservice. I mean, okay you don't have to like it, okay you can think whatever you want about the people that do fanservice. Everyone is entitled to their opinion after all right? I just dislike people who critize it without really knowing what it is...

And I find a lot of people (especially if they don't know or aren't fans of) Jrock are quick to judge fanservice. I think if you don't understand something you should inform yourself right?

And I guess it's the same withjust yaoi, people that don't like it think it's weird because it's something they don't see everyday... and people like it for just that same reason.

And seriously Jrock are in SHOW business, of course they'll do that kind of thing when they know girls ( and most Jrock fans are girls XD sad but true ... at least it does seem that way..) enjoy it XD