How many of you have permanent residency?

[FrustratedDave]

How many of you have permanent residency? or changed nationality to Japanese?

I have just received my permanent residency and I thought it would be interesting to see have many of us have too.

[KirinMan]

How many of you have permanent residency? or changed nationality to Japanese?
I have just received my permanent residency and I thought it would be interesting to see have many of us have too.
Purely out of curiosity here and not to put you on the "spot" but would you mind sharing what makes you "frustrated" Dave?

Oh and I have PR status as well, I'd take citizenship here in Japan if this country would allow people to carry dual citizenships.

[Goldiegirl]

Not to answer for frustratedDave, but I think his current frustration is with his job in Japan working with the elderly. I asked him the same when I said "hi" to him when he joined. :)

[FrustratedDave]

Purely out of curiosity here and not to put you on the "spot" but would you mind sharing what makes you "frustrated" Dave?
Oh and I have PR status as well, I'd take citizenship here in Japan if this country would allow people to carry dual citizenships.
no definately not putting me on the spot. I own a business here that has been stated earlier. Why I am frustrated is that I have exuasted all means to study this language and studied it quite hard for a very long time. How do I explain this, in commuication anywhere in the world words are only part of the equation, it is the ability to understand what a person is feeling through there experience and culture beliefs that also guide communication. Here in Japan, culture is obviously different to ours no matter how westernized anyone says it is and the only way to learn this is to live it. So why am I frustrated? B/c no matter how good you explain something to someone if you can't grasp their mental state of mind while explaing something to them, their will always be mis-communication there. This understanding is not impossible, but it is a lot harder than learning all of the 1945 jōyō kanji (常用漢字) when it comes to understanding Japanese people’ｓ ”本音”. Our upbringing is fundamentaly different to theirs and you have to change that within your self before you can begin to relate to people.

Not to answer for frustratedDave, but I think his current frustration is with his job in Japan working with the elderly. I asked him the same when I said "hi" to him when he joined. :)
Thanks Goldiegirl.:cool:

[Goldiegirl]

I can feel your frustration through your words. I don't think I can offer good advice back to you. At least you can post here and maybe feel better. You won't have to keep all your frustrations bottled up inside. Sorry for being a little off topic....but if I was living in Japan, I wouldn't give up my US citizenship. If you could have both then I would. Same for my hubby, he won't become a US citizen because he doesn't want to give up his Japanese citizenship.

[FrustratedDave]

I can feel your frustration through your words. I don't think I can offer good advice back to you. At least you can post here and maybe feel better. You won't have to keep all your frustrations bottled up inside. Sorry for being a little off topic....but if I was living in Japan, I wouldn't give up my US citizenship. If you could have both then I would. Same for my hubby, he won't become a US citizen because he doesn't want to give up his Japanese citizenship.
Thanks for the kind words, it is very much appreciated.

[Ewok85]

Sorry for being a little off topic....but if I was living in Japan, I wouldn't give up my US citizenship. If you could have both then I would. Same for my hubby, he won't become a US citizen because he doesn't want to give up his Japanese citizenship.

Technically, its possible - but has nothing to do with permanent residency. You're thinking of naturalisation ;) Permanent Residency is just where you are of a different "visa" class that has no restrictions on work, requires you to have lived here a number of years already, and is generally given much longer between renewals, if it needs renewal - I forget about the last point...

(And in that case, when you become "Japanese", you get a Japanese passport etc, and you are supposed to hand your American passport in to the US Embassy. Fail to do so and continue to renew it when it expires, and noone really cares, and you continue to get the befits. Just don't flaunt it and its fine.)

[FrustratedDave]

Technically, its possible - but has nothing to do with permanent residency. You're thinking of naturalisation ;) Permanent Residency is just where you are of a different "visa" class that has no restrictions on work, requires you to have lived here a number of years already, and is generally given much longer between renewals, if it needs renewal - I forget about the last point...
(And in that case, when you become "Japanese", you get a Japanese passport etc, and you are supposed to hand your American passport in to the US Embassy. Fail to do so and continue to renew it when it expires, and noone really cares, and you continue to get the befits. Just don't flaunt it and its fine.)

That last point, I did not think you would be able to renew it if you have become a Japanese citizen? There would have to be some sort of communication between governments?

[Ewok85]

Nope, there is none. And even if there was - does the American government disallow dual citizenship? Have you surrendered your citizenship yet? (No, not unless you voluntarily do so).

[FrustratedDave]

Nope, there is none. And even if there was - does the American government disallow dual citizenship? Have you surrendered your citizenship yet? (No, not unless you voluntarily do so).
Good point, I am going to keep that in mind.