If everyone had to learn a international language...

[arpee92]

If everyone had to learn a international language, which type would it be? :-)

Please don't say Esperanto... That language has so many flaw and is not Asian-Language friendly. :okashii:

Personally, I would choose the character based language because writing will be faster and it will be Asian Friends which most of the world speaks

[nice gaijin]

English is already the lingua franca for most of the world. If I wanted to go with an Asian language, I'd use Mandarin. One thing is for sure, if I had to pick a language, it would be one that already exists, and is in common use already.

[nanook]

Asian-friendly or not, I'd pick Esperanto. Nice, easy to learn, easy to speak and relatively logical.

[Mars Man]

Well, being me...I guess...I just have to kind of stick with what I have--English. However, for me, that wouldn't be so much of a learning process. I'm sorry, but I guess I got stuck on the term 'international language.' I just spoil the fun, I know, because I can't get beyond an international language's being used internationally for it to properly have the right to that definition.

I would like a language which gives the most precise and logical as well as poetic expressions, with phonetic reading, among a few other things.

Now, in order to really make this thread a candidate for the 'Serious Discussions' area, I'd hope, arpee92 san, that you'd present the evidence and arguments for that claim that Esperanto is 'flawed,' and is not 'Asian-Language friendly.' Otherwise, this thread would probably go in Chit Chat & Misc. Thank you !

[JimmySeal]

I'd hope, ... that you'd present the evidence and arguments for that claim that Esperanto is 'flawed,' and is not 'Asian-Language friendly.'
While I do think that most of arpee92/arpgme's comments are nonsense, I'll field this one:
http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/ranto/

[Sono Ike]

n . n ) well, sincerely I want something with no such a complicted "kanjis" as Chhinese/mandarin whatever. I'm not the only person that gets scared when thinking in learning all those simbols. I mean, I could lern them but... hell!! I have other important things to do... like learn maths ¬ ¬ ) *Sono hates maths*
mmm... english is actually a super ultra duper spoken language, I mean is not the most spoken, but a lot of people know it!!! For example, the japanese songs with lyrics in english. WTH?! Another example... I xDDD I'm maxican but most of the time I'm hearing and reading things in english > _ > (well, it would probably be different if I live near China 9 _ 9 )
I would like esperanto. Looooooong time ago when I was trying to learn it (when I was 13 aprox.) I discovered that it was very simple!!! It hasn't irregularities and is logical!



Anyway. I like all the different lenguages and they're a very important part of each country culture and history. o3o

[yumeitsumo]

I think that we shouldn't be required to learn any language. If someone comes from a different country here: WE SHOULDnt have to learn their language. They need to learn english. Right?

[Sono Ike]

I think that we shouldn't be required to learn any language. If someone comes from a different country here: WE SHOULDnt have to learn their language. They need to learn english. Right?

I don't get your point. (Maybe 'cause my english sucks xD)
Let's see... ok, you're saying that if I live in... England and a Japanese came to England, then the Japanese must learn english? Well, if that's the case OF COURSE that the visitor is the one who must learn the language.

But if you're saying that everyone must learn english... = _ = )... well... let's allow the time to decide it!



-but I still prefer esperanto... 9_ 9 )-

[yamahaR1]

A character based language, especially Japanese

others include, Chinese-Languages, Korean, Taiwan

[centrajapan]

A character based language, especially Japanese
others include, Chinese-Languages, Korean, Taiwan
How about Egyptian Hieroglyphs? Its not a bad thing to not be symbolic illiterate. We are surrounded by symbols, logos which we don´t even think about. Kanjis come from drawings. Its symbolism.

Be good if Norwegian was the world language. Our curse words are better than English. jævel means f@cker but its more visual. It is a troll looking elf out in the woods with his trousers down masterbating.

[Doc]

I had to learn a foreign language in college to get my degree. That meant either choosing from Spanish, German, French, or Russian. I ended up picking German in the end. Boy was that a long year and a half of learning how to read and speak German. I sometimes dream in German now because of it all.

:mad:

-Doc :wave:

[Derfel]

I would probably pick Welsh, simply for the pleasure of learning and speaking a Celtic language.
Well once I'm finished with Japanese, and know over 3000 Kanji at least lol :D

[Mavrek]

In my opinion English is such an international language which fulfill our requirements to learn any international language.

[Homerduff]

English will always be the number 1 international business language. No mather how strong China will become. For a while people were saying that learning Chinese is the future. But actually the Chinese are currently learning English. Ofcourse if you want to do business in China or any other country itself you will surely benefit from knowing the local language.

[Derfel]

You can't say always, that may easily change over the centuries. Remember what happened to French? Or what is happening to Russian?

[Doc]

Maybe German will be the standard in the centuries to come. :happy:

-Doc :wave:

[hideway]

I'm aiming at languages like Japanese and Mandarim.

Together with english they should be the most spoken languages in the next century. :)

[Doc]

I'll take Japanese over Mandarin thank you very much! :happy:

-Doc :wave:

[centrajapan]

if you speak Japanese and English this is a good combination because most Japanese speak little English and most English speakers little Japanese.
If you speak Norwegian and English this us not such a good combination because everyone speaks English in Norway and because Norwegian is a pretty useless language.:p

[justin]

I would say English, but the way things are going Spanish will be the world language.

[Doc]

Latin has a better chance of being a world language than Spanish.

[Dutch Baka]

I would choose for English and Chinese.

Another question is, but that would maybe better for another thread is which languages shouldn't we use at all...

[yumeitsumo]

I would choose Japanese! Well, duh, why wouldn't I choose Japanese. I think Japanese is the most unique and exciting.

[Goldiegirl]

I think the answer to this question is right here in this forum. Look at all the posters, they (we) come from all over the world and we are all communicating in English.....

[centrajapan]

Another question is, but that would maybe better for another thread is which languages shouldn't we use at all...

I think it is good with variety no matter how useless your native language is abroad.

[uchimizu]

Hi,

in the current state of the world, English is the universal language, whether I like it or not (actually, if we French did not lose some stupid wars in the eighteen centuries, it could have been French, and everybody would be struggling with French verbs now).

I only regret the universal language is not Italian. Just hearing Italian brings sunlight to a rainy day.

[centrajapan]

I wish the world language was Swedish. The problem is that we screwed UK too long ago. We basically invented UK. The only succesful colonisation of the world.

[XCrisX]

Well I think that a language with words would probably be the easiest and fastest to learn. As it's said on the poll the words from many different languages are taken from one or various other original languages so it may be easier for many people (not all people though) to recognize each word and their meaning while learning. Besides the fact that most of the people know at least some words of languages like English..

Still I'd like it to be any character based language just because I find them more interesting and creatively expressed..

[JRockAddict]

I'm already learning 3 languages at once. Or trying to at my best. The ones I'm learning right now are French, German and Japanese. After that, I already chose to learn Manderin Chinese, then after that Korean. I know that's a lot of languages but it's a goal that I want to succeed in.

Also, I am interested in Egyptian Heiroglyphics, though I may never know them. I love Egyptian writing, seeing as it always captured my interest because it's art in its own self. Just like all the other Character languages.

My government teacher once said that the USA was 1 vote away from German being the native language. If that had happened, would German be the international language instead of English? French is also an international language, and if French was the international language, we'd all be learning French in school instead of English like some countries.

What I find contridictory in the USA is that English is the international language, but it's not the official language of the country. In fact, Spanish will most likely be spoken by the majority of people, leaving English as the minority by the year 2010. That's less than 2 years from now.

[JimmySeal]

In fact, Spanish will most likely be spoken by the majority of people, leaving English as the minority by the year 2010. That's less than 2 years from now.
Excuse me? How do you figure?

[kameron]

Korean: It has grammar familiar to some Asian languages (Japanese in particular), and a pronunciation-based character system which is a lot easier to read than english letters.

To be honest I don't think the western world could handle learning a language like Chinese without some form of long term immersion.

[thatsme]

If it was free and you had time, what language would you like to learn right now?
As for me Portoguese/Brasilian

[JRockAddict]

Excuse me? How do you figure?
Actually, that's just a statistic my government teacher told us. She's actually very up to date on news. Plus, with all the people who speak Spanish, all the Spanish under the English, more and more people are going to learn Spanish.

Then, a few of my other teachers in COMPLETELY different states also stated that Spanish might become the majority.

[kameron]

Actually, that's just a statistic my government teacher told us.

75.3% of statistics are made up.

Including this one.

[JRockAddict]

Don't tell me that. Tell my government teacher. I'm not a scientist. Blame them.

[Chi65]

Since I love the chinese language (but one has to be a bit musically gifted, anyhow, I am), which is so easy to learn apart from the hanzi, it would be this as another one beside english.
But in general I would think, a language that has something from every language, incl. asian ones, would be fine for me. But that may not come up so soon. . .alas

[JimmySeal]

Don't tell me that. Tell my government teacher. I'm not a scientist. Blame them.
We can blame you, because you are parroting her dubious trivia without having any real evidence to back it up.

[Chi65]

Who is "we"?
I do not, for example, he just reports. And thats OK.

[JRockAddict]

I'm a SHE. I'm not a guy, or at least, I sure hope not. If I was I'm missing something here!

And, by the way, it's not fair that you blame me just for saying some things that are STATISTICS that happen to NOT be real. I was just reporting them. I even said MY GOVERNMENT TEACHER told her students, my other teachers told their students. I'm sure there are other people in the US that think English is going to be the minority language. So, therefore, no, you can't blame me for being wrong when there are millions of others out there who are the same. That's descrimination. Find them, blame them first before you turn around and say you're going to blame me. And if you do blame me, it's YOU, because I don't see anyone else who will blame me. As the last person said, I'm just reporting and she doesn't blame me.

[pugtm]

you know the though occured to me that the people in this pole are not entirely free of bias, considering that this is a JAPANESE language and culture forum....

[kameron]

you know the though occured to me that the people in this pole are not entirely free of bias, considering that this is a JAPANESE language and culture forum....
Despite that it seems many people can see that Japanese is not a flawless language.