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toru
Dec 30, 2007, 12:49
<<There is something we can and must do.>>

When we see unreasonable selfish deeds are done to powerless
other we feel pain of the God's suffering. It is not possible to be
happy with it. If any governments of nations can say "we put us
first" it is the time of the Sodom and Gomorrah? The government
thinks being selfish above other is good thing to be? Lost the
basest of decency?

yet, as it is what the God allow to happen, we need to think why.

We should realize that The God is the perfection.:

Nothing could happen without the God's allowance.
What ever happens the God means it to happen,
never is accident nor mistake


I do not see those unreasonable selfish people in the high places
as powerful ones. But I see them as out of their mind. The God has
took them to make them act as they do as the God is angry with us
all.

The God is very angry for our disrespect and distrust to the best
wish of the God that is our gifted life's existences and all of this
world existence. Even all of us have believed to die the God keeps
us existing a length of time that is necessary to give new generation
to have a go. But if all of us are to make our children to believe to
die before they had a chance to have their own life's testimony
the God has no point of keeping any of us in existence. This is why
even children die. This is the reason for deformed birth. It is the
time of the Immergence?

As it is a knowable fact that WE CAN NOT KNOW as an experienced
fact "EVERYONE IS TO DIE" despite you can assume or believe,
WE MUST PROHIBIT ourselves telling children "EVERYONE IS DYING.",
as if it is a known truth. To do so is hopelessly irresponsible.
It is a truth that no one's death proves still existing ones to die.
WE MUST STOP ourselves believing that "WE ARE TO DIE".
We must not "believe to die". We must "believe to live". We must
RESPECT and TRUST the best wish of The God. To "believe to live"
but not "believe to die" is at least of respect to the God. To
"believe to die" is the ultimate disrespect to the God.

I can not allow myself to think the God to be such who give us
life existences that does not want to die but only to die. But
I think that if one assume or believe to die despite of the fact of
the gifted life does not want to die, the one can not deserve the
efforts of the God to keep the one existing and functioning.
If one believes the God is such as CRUEL being it is bad enough to
be dead for the very disrespect to the God to do so. It should also
be said that if one believe that the God favors some above other it
is the same to believe that the God is such UNFAIR being the one
shall lose.

I feel urgent need for us to realize that the greater world that is
outside of our own environments is not us as an individual one's
responsibility nor what us as an individual one can be responsible of,
but us as all collectively responsible of. If we want peace of the
world we must do what ourselves can and must do. Some of us may even
happily be "soldiers for Good" to face the unreasonable ones within our
own environments, not as enemies but as ones who truly care for them,
to tell them not to be so unreasonably selfish.


As anyone can see it is impossibility to have peace in the world or
even in a playground if someone is allowed to be unreasonably selfish.
We must start from ourselves not to allow being so and guide our
children not to allow themselves to be so selfish as to ignore other's
need and rightful wishes, and guide ourselves to share and play
together in fairness in happiness with cares and loves for all.

Ourselves, our own associates and our own children's "Me first,
us first, more for me or more for us" must be prohibited strictly.
This must be our own duty that we must not neglect in our own
environments, for ourselves own chances to exist. "Loving and
caring never spoiling".

I see that the gifted ability to understand (the intelligence) is for
myself to watch myself not to become a disrespect with the gifted
chance to exist. I understand that to watch myself not to be bad
is to respect other and myself. I would never allow myself look
at other critically to look down at the other. if I see other's wrong
I would try to help the wronged one out of the wrong, but only within
my own environment within my own capacity, like anyone would
do when own children do bad.

For me, it is difficult enough to guide my own children to the way
of just beings. But I started to say things publicly first time in my
life as I felt urgency of the time. I thank you to
the creators and keepers of the site who make it possible.
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<< The god >>

The God
The One Whole
The Sun
The Moon
The Earth

The One Produce
The One Economy
of The God

in That
everyone
take a part
as one cost
to The God

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I made myself an experimental scientist of life with wish to be a
proof of what I think to be true. To recommend to my friends and
my family to become experimental scientists also, I wrote an
instruction for the "not dying living" as a booklet. It is titled
<<Tenpage>> pronounce "ten-page".
If you like to check it out visit:
myspace.com/otomakas.

Or you can download the free e-booklet direct from:
For windows: tenpage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tenpage/Tenpage-v1m.zip
For linux: tenpage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tenpage/Tenpage.qt3
* For linux version you have to make it executable in property-permission window.

I also do music. If you like to check that out visit:
myspace.com/godoten.
You can download free mp3 of a few of my tunes.
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We all are the same.
We all need the same.
We all knew the same.

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Derfel
Dec 30, 2007, 19:14
Are you debating or trying to convert people?

scorpion da black
Dec 31, 2007, 14:45
bro, i like your perseverance...
but this believe got issues ...what governments are those that should be changed..who is to decide...???
and on what bases...???
and on what believe system??
and what about those who don't believe on God ??
and what about those with a stronger believe than yours in some other faith who will be against your path?? *( shall you turn to what you hate?? a careless government?)

answer and if i find your answers well, i might join you

Derfel
Dec 31, 2007, 18:29
In the best case you'll have the subscribe for Watchtower, in the worst you'll join some underground movement, that any good for you?

toru
Dec 31, 2007, 19:29
Dear scorpion da black,

Thank you for your response.

I would never hate anyone nor you should.
One should not (need not) hate anyone, but
care for the ones who does, within the own
environment within the own capacity.

I am not in such environment of my own to be able to say
anything to who can influence the government that is
unreasonable and careless for other . But some ones who
are in such place to be able to do so, as ones who truly care
for the persons in such places could help the situations for
better? The ones may have to be members of family or
friends to those who need to be spoken for their life's sake.

As to who decide who is in the wrong or bad is just
self-evident since Good or Bad are based on (reference
to )"For the Good of All"? So unreasonable or selfish?
Though those who are in the wrong may use these
words completely up-side-down wrong-way-around.

By the way I am not leading no organization nor sect that
issues memberships for you to join. If you care for your
own precious chance to exist then you should care for
what you do not allow yourself to Be or Do. Your own
awareness(person) is the only thing belong to you also
the only thing you can lose. Good luck to you.

*I recommend to download free e-booklet of
<<Tenpage>> as a guide book for yourself from:
tenpage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tenpage/Tenpage-v1m.zip
You need to add www in front of the above address.
It come with a mp3 tune.I hope you like it.

Are you debating or trying to convert people?

Dear Derfel,

I have no intion of debating, converting nor
fighting. I wanted other to see what I can see
as truth about our lifves.

Mycernius
Jan 1, 2008, 00:52
This is thinly veiled religious spam hence this thread is locked.