What bands do you like outside the J-music scene??

[Nanahara]

Just interested in what abnds you listen to that arent from Japan??
I am a big fan of punk:
NOFX, Propagandhi, Anti-Flag, Raw Power the list goes on and on haha...;)

[Dream Time]

Chinese bands:

Beyond (rock from Hong Kong)
Circle (hard rock from HK)
BlackWine (progressive metal from HK)

Powell Young (guitar shredder from Beijing)

[Dream Time]

US / European bands:

Neo-Classical Metal:
Yngwie Malmsteen
Tony Macalpine
Vinnie Moore
George Bellas
Joey Tafolla
Jason Becker
Borislav Mitic
some Artension

hard rock:
Bon Jovi
Mr.Big

blues rock:
Gary Moore
Joe Bonamassa

Jorge Salan,plays like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani
Marty Friedman,cool stuffs

some Guns N' Roses

there is more,but thats all I can list now

[Dream Time]

Jazz / Fusion:

Pat Metheny group
Julio Revueltas
Victor Wooten

and more,but these are what I like best at this moment now.

[SKiNiToToRo]

Love the Foo Fighters! Also:

Queens of the Stoneage
Deftones
DJ Shadow
Radiohead
N.E.R.D. and.....

Let's get it ON!

L8r

[Gaki]

Chinese ~
Silver Ash, LMF, MP4, Beyond.

Korean ~
Seo Taiji, H.O.T.

Western ~
Marilyn Manson, Aborym.

[seishinkai]

Silver Ash and Delerium spring to mind . There are so many that I can't remember the names of most of them @_@

I'll occasionally listen to Die Prinzen and VNV Nation, but only when the mood strikes me, which isn't often.

[KoranRi]

there's other music besides J-music!? ::gasps:: j/k lol I can't remember the last time I listened to the radio. The only time I even listen to something in English is if it's j related!

[budd]

whatever's free

[jeisan]

hot water music
toadies
modest mouse
the streets
offspring
they might be giants
sublime
alkaline trio
led zeppelin
...and various 80s artists

[Gackt's Twin Fan]

I like all types, pop, rock, and dance. I'll listen to a LITTLE BIT of country, but only a little. I also love listening to Soundscapes^^:happy:

[kuniyoshi honeru]

I'm starting to listen to German metal the first was Gamma Ray their first song I heard "Razerblade Sigh" and it's awesome

[wan pak hin]

music that is not jap music i like,

Chinese:
LMF , DJ TOMMY (own albums not with LMF involved), YUKI HSU
S.H.E, KELLY CHEN, SAMMI CHENG, ANDY LAU, CANDY LO
COOKIES, TWINS, JUNO MAK, LEON LAI, NICHOLAS TSE
YUMIKO CHENG, MIRIAM YEUNG, HACKEN LEE, and last but not least EASON CHAN!!

thats about it on chinese music now korean music i tend to favor in cd player are:

H.O.T, NRG, PEOPLE CREW, MASTA WU (apart of YG FAMILY), SE7EN, FINKL, JINUSEAN, BoA (korean version's of her songs), S.E.S (they split up now (T_T) ), MC SNIPER, 1TYM, BABY VOX, CB MASS, DNS, HAN DONG JOON, YOO SEUNG JUN and last but not least.... LENA PARK!!

and western music i like just about anything, usally prefer western music like, DMX, KORN, LINKIN PARK, 50 CENT, R KELLY, P. DIDDY, MUSE, BLUR, BUSTA RHYMES, JAY Z, FEEDER, FOO FIGHTERS, LL COOL J, MYSTIKAL, N.E.R.D, RAMMSTEIN, XZIBIT and that's about it really to tell the truth i have much much music, but i tend to search for all the tracks on bands cd's and just download the songs instead easier for me! although on korean, chinese i can buy most of the albums here in tokyo or yes asia! and even most of western albums i can buy but they are more expensive then chinese and korean albums so download western songs instead!

[Itazura_na_kiss]

Hello, anybody interested in sending fanpost to Silver Ash?! :balloon:
We are collecting some all over the world and will send it to Beijing already in November. Who wants to take part and send some letters, fanart, handicrafts, fanfics or something like that is very welcome!!!
We'll add a Chinese Translation to all English letters.

Thanks for your interest!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/Nijime/YUE_DRAWING1E.jpg
:cute:

[michi]

David Bowie
No Doubt
Ours
London After Midnight
Rhapsody
Kent
Franz Ferdinand
Silver Ash
Queen
Deftones
Placebo

[Knives]

Im a huge fan of punk :p
im actually listening to nofx right now :)
other bands i like are..
flogging molly, dropkick murphys, propaghandi, ramones, dead kennedys, and anti-flag

[jovial_jon]

I can never resist an opportunity to list the bands I like. :blush:

Devo, Deftones, Sparks, B-52s, Eels, Q.O.T.S.A., Franz Ferdinand, Jimi Hendrix, Jeff Buckley, Living End, Breakestra, SOAD, RATM, Faith No More, Queen, Smashing Pumpkins, Von Bondies, Incubus, Foo Fighters, Booker T & The MGs, Funkadelic, The Roots, Yes, NIN, The Funk Brothers, Beatles...yadda yadda....that'll do.

[Winter]

Dream Evil, Dimmu Borgir, Toilet Boys, Jean-Phillippe Ramot, Nightwish, Draconius, Gorgoroth, The Gathering, Forest Stream, Opeth, Exodus, Testament, Marduk, and so on, and so forth.

[ruth~route]

wow. there's so many artists i nver heard of b4.
erm... i personally like:

Western-
Linkin Park
Avril Lavigne

Korea-
Kang Ta
The TRAX

Chinese-
Penny Dai
Jay Chou

:-)

[anadorei]

lots of black/death metal and grind

[michi]

lots of black/death metal and grind

Forgive my ignorance, but what kinda of music is grind? Is it like techno rave or something? O_o

[xmattytronx]

Here comes my monster list:

Instrumental:

Explosions in the sky
A Silver Mt. Zion

Hardcore(this includes subgenres such as youthcrew, metalcore, emocore, and screamo):
Taking Back Sunday, Forensics, Dead Letter Auction, Saetia, Poison the Well, Integrity, Between the Buried and Me, Throwdown, Hopesfall, 200 North, 100 Demons, 7angels7plagues, a.javelin.reign, A Jealousy Issue, A Life Once Lost, A Perfect Murder, Thousand Falling Skies, A Traitor Like Judas, As I Lay Dying, As Hope Dies, Asherah, Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, Bane, Beneath the Ashes, Bleeding Through, Botch, Boy Sets Fire, Candira, Casey Jones, Caliban, Cave In, Comeback Kid, Champion, Coalesce, Converge, Crucial Youth, Curlupanddie, Darkest Hour, Daughters, Destiny, Destroy, Death by Stereo, Dillinger Escape Plan, Dispensing of False Halos, Earth Crisis, Ed Gein, Eighteen Visions, Every time I die, Evergreen Terrace, From Autumn to Ashes, Heartscarved, Glassjaw, Love is Red, Misery Signals, Nora, Nodes of Ranvier, Jude the Obscure, Ion Dissonance, The End, Nora, Remembering Never, Reversal of Man, Shai Hulud, skycamefalling, Stars are Falling, Tandum Vitalis, The Red Chord, Unearth, Zao, Wall of Jericho, With Honor, Twelve Tribes, Words that Burn, Yaphet Kotto, 1000 Travels of Jarwahla, A Sense of Belonging, Trillion Barnacle Lapse, A Trunk Full of Dead Bodies, Alexisonfire, Alsion Ranger, Away from Here, Black Paper Diary, The Blood Brothers, Blue Skies at War, Boys Night Out, Circle Takes the Square, Cowboys Became Folk Heroes, Dead Poetic, Boxcar Racer, Emery, Envy(JAPANESE EMOTIONAL HARDCORE), Five Fingers One Hand, Funeral For a Friend, Further Seems Forever, Glasseater, Drive Like Jehu, Grade, Joan of Arc, Hot Cross, In Pieces, Joshua Fit for Battle, Keepsake, Knapsack, Matchbook Romance, mewithoutyou, Mogwai, Moneen, My Chemical Romance, Neil Perry, On the Might of Princes, Open Hand, Orchid, pg. 99, piebald, planesmistakenforstars, Q and not U, Senses Fail, Silverstein, Songs of Zarathustra, Sparta, Stars Hide Fire, The Fall of Troy, The Prisoner's Dilemma, The Mars Volta, These Arms are Snakes, Thursday, Underoath, Wings of Azrael, Dead Letter Auction.

Emo:
Autumn's Grey Solace, Bright Eyes, Architecture In Helsinki, Anberlin, Angelins in the Architecture, As Tall as Lions, Azure Ray, Bear vs shark, Benton Falls, Braid, Cross my Heart, Coheed and Cambria, Cursive, Dead Red Sea, Deathcab For Cutie, Elliott, Falling From the Sky, Forever and a Day, Getup Kids, Homage to Catalonia, Iron and Wine, Jimmy Eat World, Juliana Theory, Last Days of April, Pedro the Lion, Saves the Day, Spitalfield, shabutie, Stars in December, The Postal Service, Yage, The Promise Ring.

Indie and punk:
(=), At the Drive In, Modest Mouse, The Faint, Nofx, Lagwagon, AFI, Bad Religion, Circle Jerks, Black Flag, SSDCONTROL, Sixiouse And the Banshees, The Clash, Sex Pistols, Complete, Tim, The Retreads, diSme, and tons of others I can't think of right now.

Metal:
Van Halen, Dragonforce, Blind Guardian, Brainstorm, Edguy, Iron Maiden, Avantasia, Cryptopsy, Man-o-War, Anathema, CKY, Carcass, Elvenking, Kamelot, Dragonland, Dream Theatre, Danzig, HIM, Into Eternity, Judas Priest, Novembre, Ragnarok, Three Inches of Blood, Megadeth, Yngwie Malmsteen.

Hiphop:
Ludacris, Saul Williams, Wyclef Jean, Aesop Rock, NAS, Talib Kweli, Kanye West, MA$E, Outkast, The Streets, Asian Dub Foundation, Blackalicious, Del the Funky Homosapian, Deltron 3030, Hyroglyphs.

I dunno if this list is too comprehensive or not...but these are some of the bands I listen to every week. I hope you all download some and get yourself interested in new music!

[Apollo]

U2, U2, U2, R.E.M., Smashing Pumpkins, Suede, U2, U2, Coldplay, Depeche Mode, U2, :blush:

My fave bands are: U2 and REM:-)

Of other performers it is Sting, Madonna, Peter Gabriel, Pet Shop Boys, Robbie Williams, Billy Joel....

My taste of music is.....varied... :balloon:

[Baka Eki]

i like: Rammstein
Slipknot
KoRn
Atreyu
Marilyn Manson
ArchType
Dimmu Borgir
Cradle of Filth
MurderDolls
Static X
\m/>_<\m/

-Token Black Guy

[Camui]

I like Green Day, New Found Glory, Coldpay, Linkin Park, Enya, U2, Yellowcard, Incubus, Evanescenes, John Mayer, Jason Mraz, etc...my taste in music gets pretty random...usually depends on my mood...I pretty much don't listen to music in english anymore..I listen to Gackt or V6 or music from different anime...^^

[Faustianideals]

I like U2, Aphex Twin, Utada Hikaru, Dir En Grey, Gackt, and Ayumi Hamasaki.

[okaeri_man]

I like U2, Aphex Twin, Utada Hikaru, Dir En Grey, Gackt, and Ayumi Hamasaki.
does that deserve a slap? i think it does.

bands i often listen to OUTSIDE the j-music scene,
Linkin Park, Rammstein, Rage Against the Machine, Ben Folds Five, Cake, Metallica, System of a Down, and a few songs from Distrubed, Static-X, and Placebo.

[Winter]

Michi:

Grind is another form of metal that is almost a blend of death and thrash.

[michi]

Michi:

Grind is another form of metal that is almost a blend of death and thrash.

Ok. I was way off. What is thrash?

[Winter]

Thrash is a fast-paced type of metal. Its like a sluggish, harder form of speed metal.

Megadeth comes to mind, when I think about thrash.

[december]

I'm mostly into rap/hip-hop. I also listen to alternative and classic rock, and the oldies of course. My radio station stays on the oldies station.

Here's my long list:

Nickelback, Dido, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Aerosmith, Guns and Roses, Seal, Gorillaz, Radiohead, Staind, Chevelle, Marilyn Manson, Nelly Furtado, Katy Rose, Bonnie McKee, Norah Jones, Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, Patsy Cline, The Temptations, Aretha Franklin, The Monkees, The Beatles, Simon & Garfunkel, Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Zombies, Destiny's Child, Usher, Lil Jon & the Eastside Boys, Mystikal, Big Tymers, Ludacris, Crime Mobb, Nelly, Lil Wayne, Juvenile, Lil Kim, Trina, LL Cool J, Busta Rhymes, Terror Squad, Cam'ron, Snoop Dogg, Jay-Z, Anthony Hamilton, Alicia Keys, R. Kelly, Kayne West, Twista... etc...

[Mikitty]

There are a few that come to mind, Kelly Clarkson, Sugar Ray, The Living End, Diana DeGarmo, P!nk (shes hot too :P) KD Lang, Elton John, thats about it really, as soon as i post this im going to think of more :D

[mizerable_d]

i like the White Stripes, Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Evanessance, tatu, and maybe some more...
i really would like to hear some Silver Ash, does anyone know where to get some?

[MexicanBatman]

KoRn, Slipknot, Machine Head, Chimaira, Fear Factory, Ill Niño, Tool, Static-X, Dry Kill Logic, System Of A Down, Cradle Of Filth, A Perfect Circle, Stone Sour, Murderdolls, Marilyn Manson. Basicly everything Metal.

-Batman

[mizerable_d]

XD A perfect circle!!!!!!! *day dreams about james iha* :cute:

[Winter]

KoRn, Slipknot, Machine Head, Chimaira, Fear Factory, Ill Niño, Tool, Static-X, Dry Kill Logic, System Of A Down, Cradle Of Filth, A Perfect Circle, Stone Sour, Murderdolls, Marilyn Manson. Basicly everything Metal.

-Batman

If you listen to everything metal, why didnt you list any metal bands?

All you have on your list are pop bands.

[Horizon]

If you listen to everything metal, why didnt you list any metal bands?

All you have on your list are pop bands.

Oh yes. Oh yes, definately. All those bands...Such Britany Spears wannabees! :okashii: :okashii:

As for me, I don't really listen to much English music and the ones I do listen to, I'm not really even a small fan (I don't even know their names usually!)
The only English band I'm really listening to right now is just Trapt though. Although I will listen to '80's rock, heavy metal, etc if I find it worthy enough I suppose.

[Nightwalker]

If you listen to everything metal, why didnt you list any metal bands?

All you have on your list are pop bands.

Pop? What are you thick? Pop is Britney Spears and all that top 40 crap. That stuff is more like hard rock or at least metal or something!

:box: Hi-ya! Baka...

[mizerable_d]

If you listen to everything metal, why didnt you list any metal bands?

All you have on your list are pop bands.
im sorry but a perfect circle is NOT pop. james iha rules! XD *sigh* if only smashing pumpkins are still together... :(

well i guess everyone have different opinion on wats metal and wats not. in my school there are people who thinks 3 days grace is metal (O_o wtf dude... :okashii: ) so i guess everyone's standards are different...

[dorkist]

My somewhat unsorted list (as in, I didn't sort them by genre 'cause I'm lazy <.<) :

US

- Nirvana
- Queens of the Stone Age
- Rage Against the Machine
- Incubus

Europe

- Radiohead
- Coldplay
- U2

Korea

Seo Taiji, Delispice, Jaurim, Yoon Doh Hyun band, Shin Seung Hoon, Kim Min Jong, Kim Gun Mo......blarg. Too many to list >.<


As long as it's rock ballad-y, rock (metal, generic..I love it all :-) ), power ballad-y, and nothing near Britney Spears or Kelly Osborne, then I probably listen to it XD

[Winter]

im sorry but a perfect circle is NOT pop. james iha rules! XD *sigh* if only smashing pumpkins are still together... :(

well i guess everyone have different opinion on wats metal and wats not. in my school there are people who thinks 3 days grace is metal (O_o wtf dude... :okashii: ) so i guess everyone's standards are different...

Its not that there are different standards, its just that some people are right in their interpretation of what authentic metal is, and others are plain wrong.

You fall into the catagory of the latter.

[mizerable_d]

dood, ask anyone with a brain and they will say that Manson does not sing pop.

[Horizon]

Its not that there are different standards, its just that some people are right in their interpretation of what authentic metal is, and others are plain wrong.

You fall into the catagory of the latter.

And apparently, you're just plain wrong about what pop is. :okashii:

[Nightwalker]

dood, ask anyone with a brain and they will say that Manson does not sing pop.

He does not sing pop. He sings hard rock. Manson sings anything but pop. Lol, I agree with mizerable_d on this one.

[mizerable_d]

high 5!!!!

[Nightwalker]

Boo-yah! Hee hee. I like Depeche Mode. That's about all. I have listened to them since I was a baby. It would put me to sleep. It's weird because when I listen to them I do get tired and fall alseep.

[mizerable_d]

lol White Stripes is still my fav, some very relaxing stuff, some boucy...i like the most random bands which do not fall into one catagory...

[jovial_jon]

I find it very annoying when people get too concerned with putting music into categories. Like it matters.

[Nightwalker]

My sister loves the White Stripes very much. I like some of their songs but I still prefer J-rock over any music. :cool:

[mizerable_d]

yes, i like j-music very much, there are some chinese and korean music that are great also ^^ but white stripes is a band where i like all of their songs...lol rare

[PrincessBerriKiller]

if it doesn't come from Japan It must come from Korea or China or some where else in Asia. Oh! heh heh I listen to Utada *snickerz* Cruel Joke, sorry! For her english debut album they chopped off her frist name and bought it with the hopes thoat it would be not so bad...The lyrics sucked but the music is so catchy! I can't for the life of me get it out of my head....I suppose I listen to No doubt? It was an addiction from childhood!

Btw

KoRn, Slipknot, Machine Head, Chimaira, Fear Factory, Ill Niño, Tool, Static-X, Dry Kill Logic, System Of A Down, Cradle Of Filth, A Perfect Circle, Stone Sour, Murderdolls, Marilyn Manson. Basicly everything Metal.

-Batman

They may not be metal but they are sure NOT pop either. Just because you have an advanced view into metal does not mean that this is not metal in the eyes of someone less experienced, Winter.

[Horizon]

The White Stripes...? Excuse me while I throw up...>.> They annoy the crap out of me for some reason or another. Plus I don't like their music. In my opinion, it's beyond crap, but to each their own as they say.

[mizerable_d]

The White Stripes...? Excuse me while I throw up...>.> They annoy the crap out of me for some reason or another. Plus I don't like their music. In my opinion, it's beyond crap, but to each their own as they say.
gee, so harsh. maybe you should listen to more of their songs since on TV and radio you can only get like 4 of them. :souka:

[Aevalily]

mmmmm.... rather interesting topic,over all nothing too over the top.

Amercia,...............none.......ever,spare for Le'Rue Delashay


Europe:
Theatres Des Vampires :haihai: me like Scarlet :cute:
Emperor
........bit too lazy to post anymore here,moving along now

Asia.....need help with this one
:bravo: Sigh :bravo: and a few Filipino ones I cant think of at the moment


So long as its not country or pop,i mostly will have a listen to what is playing.Tell then adieu.

[Horizon]

gee, so harsh. maybe you should listen to more of their songs since on TV and radio you can only get like 4 of them. :souka:


Heh...Yeah. Sorry! :sorry: I apologize for that, but they just annoy the crap out of me! And I don't think I'd like 'em very much even if I listened to more of their music. I just don't think they're my type I guess...

[Winter]

They may not be metal but they are sure NOT pop either. Just because you have an advanced view into metal does not mean that this is not metal in the eyes of someone less experienced, Winter.

Well, those bands are all pop now.

Pop just means popular. How hard is that to figure out?

[jovial_jon]

So something can't be popular and metal?

[Winter]

So something can't be popular and metal?

'Course it can. Metallica, Sabbath, Megadeth, all popular metal.

But Ill Nino, Korn, Perfect Circle, bands like those specifically started out as progressive, which can be considered metal, but most metalheads dont.

[jovial_jon]

So you'd class Metallica, Black Sabbath and Megadeth as pop music? 'Pop' is short for 'popular', sure, but I think the term 'pop' has its own meaning now and is more to do with the style of music, rather than how successful/popular it is.

[Winter]

Maybe so, but regardless, the bands I commented on from M.Batman arent metal in the first place.

[mizerable_d]

*sweatdrop...* the fights with metal and pop...o my, how hard is it to see the difference?

Heh...Yeah. Sorry! I apologize for that, but they just annoy the crap out of me! And I don't think I'd like 'em very much even if I listened to more of their music. I just don't think they're my type I guess...

lol np dude! u dont have to like them...-_-

[Horizon]

*sweatdrop...* the fights with metal and pop...o my, how hard is it to see the difference?



lol np dude! u dont have to like them...-_-

Yeah, really. HOW could you NOT tell the difference?

And, yeah, I know, but I shouldn't have been so rude about it...

[mizerable_d]

lol np dude

[Japanimaniac]

Geez. My answer to this question could go on forever. Avenged Sevenfold, Metallica, Posion, Ratt, Garth Brooks, Alan Jackson, Ricky Martin, Backstreet Boys, New Found Glory, Good Charlotte, Breaking Benjamin, AFI, Billie Holiday, Miles Davis, Elvis Presley, The Penguins, Rammstein, White Zombie/Rob Zombie, 98 Degrees, *NSync, Lonestar, Rascal Flatts, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Eminem, D12, Godsmack, KoRn...and many more. Yeah, I'm diverse ^.^

And just to put my two cents in, there's a big difference between "pop culture" and "pop music". Metallica could easily be put in the pop culture category. But pop music is something all it's own.

[mizerable_d]

you are very right. pop music is a STYLE.

wow you like a really wide variety of music ^^

[Japanimaniac]

Hehe, tell me about it. Only problem is that I never know what I want for Christmas and my birthday and end up with CDs taking up five pages of my list ^.^"

[mizerable_d]

haha, thats great... people like you are so much easier to talk to

[Japanimaniac]

Wha? People like me? So now I'm getting categorized!?

Just kidding :wave: Thanks for the compliment!

[mizerable_d]

haha, yes but ur taste in music is so wide that it amazes me...

[Japanimaniac]

::shrugs:: I don't quite understand it myself. I guess it's because I never really used music as a way to rebel. Like, lots of people tend to say "Oohh! I'm listening to STAIND! Take that, mom and dad!!!". I grew up listening to country from my grandparents and parents, and 80s rock from my parents. The first "modern" song that really caught my ear, and made me form my own tastes, was Bawitaba, by Kid Rock. But I never really abandonned what I listened to before then. It's nothing for me to go from listening Avenged Sevenfold to listening to Hank Williams, Sr. People have too many preconceptions about a type of music outside of what they listen to, and are too busy trying to fit into the image they want to have to enjoy all that's out there.

You know what was one of the coolest things I've seen this year in music? James Hetfield, lead singer of Metallica, sang at the Outlaws Of Country concert. Oh, and Bret Michaels, lead singer of Poison, is now coming out with a solo country album. Not to mention Aerosmith's newest CD is very much blues. And look where Kid Rock's song Picture took him (he also performed at the concert, by the way).

Wow, that was a loooong post.

[Flashjeff]

Well, my list begins with The Beatles. You can't go wrong with the Fab Four!
:cool:

Other groups I like listening to are: The Rolling Stones, ABBA, The Who, Queen, Foreigner, Cheap Trick, Fleetwood Mac, Van Halen. Yeah, I know, all old school, like me, and all the best!!!
:cool:

[The AnteLyfe]

~Acid Bath~

check them out, any song by them is a complete trip. Their best album is pagan terrorism tactics, which should be listened to in its entirety for full effect. See their lyrics (http://www.rocklyricsonline.com/bands/acidbath/)

btw, Manson is definately pop. I like some of his material, but there are many bands with better/clearer-but-abstract/surreal messages that aren't tainted by the corruptable contracts hollywood spews forth, bands that have more freedom in terms of what they can say. The sad thing is in this country those bands are never heard nationally, and are only known locally (from where they originate).

Another cool trippy band is monster magnet, although they sold out and went mainstream with their last two albums/complete and utter trash. I guess the conversion to pop/mainstream music would be: catchy simplistic tunes with watered down lyrics so that any idiot could understand its message (not that you have to be special to understand non-mainstream music, but it does usually require a bit more thought)

[Japanimaniac]

::sigh:: This is what pisses me off. Just because something is simple does not mean it's trash. Flight Of The Bumblebee is a way more complicated piece than Chopsticks, but I'd much rather listen to someone play Chopsticks on the piano. If you don't care for something, say so. Don't bash it. There's plenty of people who do like it. I happen to love Monster Magnet's song Unbroken (Hotel Baby), from their new CD, but I also like Ozium, from their first CD.

Manson's musical style is metal/goth. It may be mainstream, but that's still his style. Dir en grey is mainstream, but I don't see them singing next to Utada Hikaru. My point? Something doesn't suck if it's mainstream, and doesn't sound like it was produced in a garage. If you don't like it, fine. But guess what? They're selling records, so they must be doing something right.

Lots of bands have major talent, but sometimes that makes them so unique that they only appeal to a very select audience, and therefore stay smalltime. For example, lots of the "underground" metal bands nowadays, to me, sounds like a jumble of guitars and drums, and a guy puking onto the microphone. It really doesn't appeal to me. Does that mean I have no musical taste? No. It means I have different tastes in music than the next person. But I do acknowledge the band's talent.

[Horizon]

Who gives a crap if someone is mainstream or not? Jeez! That's a lot of people's goals you know. To sell records and get their music out and listened to by as many people as possible. Music is for entertainment and mainstream just means a lot of people like them (how can they, I don't know, but still!) and therefore, their doing "right".

And like Japanimaniac said, just because something is simple doesn't mean it's crap. Simple things in life, including music, is absolutely beautiful and hell, I'd rather have something simple than something so complicated I can't tell what the hell's going on.

[The AnteLyfe]

When I say mainstream, I mean that the public controls what the band produces, not the band itself. Look at Manson and Magnet, both of those artists began by condemning the same "hollywoodized" crap they have now become, their message now has been completely swayed so as not to appear hypocritical. Name me one pop band that has come out with a good album, and has kept producing albums to that same caliber. There are a few, but the point is in order to sell lots of records almost everyone "sells out", and abandons their original goal of spreading an anti-authoritarian/corporate/societal image.

Metalica is a perfect example of this degeneration. Kill em all in no way compares to whatever that album is thats out now.

[Japanimaniac]

I will agree with you that Metallica's newest album, St. Anger, is very disappointing, but not because their message changed. It's because as soon as they got rid of Jason Newstead, they lost their Metallica sound. Their music is very generic now. You used to be able to tell a Metallica song was coming on by like, the first three seconds.

And band's messages change because they mature, not because they sell out. Songs about rebelling against parents and authority are great when you're in school, but hopefully, the band's listeners will mature with them. Staind is a really good example. And if not, there's either a whole new group of people that they appeal to, or the band goes under. "Selling out" is the term a person uses to describe someone or something that has finally reached their goal doing something that person doesn't like.

[Horizon]

Very good point indeed, Japanimaniac. I agree with you completely.

[mizerable_d]

::sigh:: This is what pisses me off. Just because something is simple does not mean it's trash. Flight Of The Bumblebee is a way more complicated piece than Chopsticks, but I'd much rather listen to someone play Chopsticks on the piano. If you don't care for something, say so. Don't bash it. There's plenty of people who do like it. I happen to love Monster Magnet's song Unbroken (Hotel Baby), from their new CD, but I also like Ozium, from their first CD.

Manson's musical style is metal/goth. It may be mainstream, but that's still his style. Dir en grey is mainstream, but I don't see them singing next to Utada Hikaru. My point? Something doesn't suck if it's mainstream, and doesn't sound like it was produced in a garage. If you don't like it, fine. But guess what? They're selling records, so they must be doing something right.

Lots of bands have major talent, but sometimes that makes them so unique that they only appeal to a very select audience, and therefore stay smalltime. For example, lots of the "underground" metal bands nowadays, to me, sounds like a jumble of guitars and drums, and a guy puking onto the microphone. It really doesn't appeal to me. Does that mean I have no musical taste? No. It means I have different tastes in music than the next person. But I do acknowledge the band's talent.
agrees, simple stuff can be good too!

gackt is sort of "selling out", but he is successful and a lot of people love him. people are probably very jealous of him...

[SkippyDaStudent85]

Favorites are hard for me to pick because I enjoy listening to anything besides most rap and country... but I do know I'm a heavy metal and classical kind of guy

[Aevalily]

I will agree with you that Metallica's newest album, St. Anger, is very disappointing, but not because their message changed. It's because as soon as they got rid of Jason Newstead, they lost their Metallica sound. Their music is very generic now. You used to be able to tell a Metallica song was coming on by like, the first three seconds.

And band's messages change because they mature, not because they sell out. Songs about rebelling against parents and authority are great when you're in school, but hopefully, the band's listeners will mature with them. Staind is a really good example. And if not, there's either a whole new group of people that they appeal to, or the band goes under. "Selling out" is the term a person uses to describe someone or something that has finally reached their goal doing something that person doesn't like.


Very good point about bands that lose their members or simply get shifted around too much.As used as this example is,Manson for example has had quite a few guitar changes in the past 10 years,with each new guitarst comes a complelty different sound,message may differ yet over al the sound is much different.As with most bands,new material is sounds different then old.John 5 compared to Zim Zum is a 180 degree shift in range of sound,as i see it Zim was more of a hard "thrash" rocker,where as John was more of a controlled player.Now thats not to say Manson didnt have anything to do with this,Johns solo album is far different then his Manson ones,now im getting off topic.Anyone agree?.With that in mind the notion of "selling out" occurs often,if a band cant stay together to produce music then why are they a "band" in the first place. :okashii:

Considering how a few others here listen to metal,my input may be valueable.
At The Gates,Cannibal Corpse,Cradle of Filth,Dimmu Borgir,Dissection,Emperor,Hate Eternal,Hypocrisy,Immortal,Kittie,Marilyn Manson,Meshuggah,Morbid Angel,Necromantia,Sigh,
Suffocation,Theatres Des Vampires,Thou Art Lord,Witchery.....OOO and of course,Le'Rue Delashay the best "dark" classical your ear will ever grace.Tell then adieu

[Sensebend]

hmm various kinds of harder music. Slayer, Unleashed, Metallica, Black Sabbath, Nightwish, Evanescence, Iced Earth, Mercyful Fate, Nine Inch Nails, Mushroomhead, OZZY, Mortician, Lacuna Coil, Rammstein, Korn.

[agonybliss]

I love a lot of different bands, but right now my top faves are...
The Energy,Cynic Echo Jet, Foetus, Slayer, Luke Mulholland, Clayton Senne, Rush, Tack, Cat Powers, and PJ Harvey