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Buradorii
Aug 14, 2008, 07:23
I just recently fully learned Hiragana and I was wondering if I should learn Katakana before I start on my Kanji. Alot of the characters look similar but of what use is Katakana?

Emoni
Aug 14, 2008, 07:48
Katakana is an absolute must and will be far easier than kanji of course (which you will never really finish in the first place). You MUST learn Katakana. It's used for just about everything from signs, to dictionaries and emphasis.

Gaberdeen
Aug 14, 2008, 07:50
Katakana is important enough to warrant learning before Kanji. You can't skip Katakana and learn Japanese otherwise.

Katakana is used to "pronounce" foreign words (by which I could say foreign words in english) such as vitamin ビタミン and Bangkok バンコク

If I'm honest - Katakana pretty poorly reflects how English words are pronounced in english, I've found many Japanese people unfamliar with using a V in lieu of a B and an L in lieu of an R.

But like I said before, in Japan, you need to know how to read, write and pronounce these words and characters because they are as commonplace as Hiragana in Japan.

Soloistic
Aug 14, 2008, 07:53
Katakana is used for lonewords and foreign names. It is necessary to learn since Katakana is used fairly often. Since it isn't that difficult, I would advice you to learn it now along side hiragana and save yourself the frustrations of not understand certain words or senctences just because it uses Katakana.

Example: テレビ=Television.

Buradorii
Aug 14, 2008, 11:10
Thanks, I never expected such a quick response. Strange enough, I learned the Hiragana chart first. Its like Im learning to run before I walk...

tada
Aug 14, 2008, 11:37
I learned hiragana first. Kids in Japan learn hiragana first. It's not unusual.

Tomii515
Aug 14, 2008, 12:07
Yes, you do need to.
Katakana is used to write foreign words to Japanese, and it is used a lot.

I learned them in the following order:

hiragana, katakana, kanji (of course I'm still studying kanji @_@)

Buradorii
Aug 15, 2008, 12:36
I see, so its not unusual. I'm still not done with Katakana yet though. Some of the characters are similar to hiragana but most of them are completely different. There are also the Katakana characters that look too similar to other katakana characters already. Like: "shi" and "tsu", and "n" and "so".... grrrr. Yet...if I'm already having this much "fun" memorizing Katakana, Kanji is going to be a blast! (If only I didn't have A.D.D....)

Tomii515
Aug 15, 2008, 15:32
I see, so its not unusual. I'm still not done with Katakana yet though. Some of the characters are similar to hiragana but most of them are completely different. There are also the Katakana characters that look too similar to other katakana characters already. Like: "shi" and "tsu", and "n" and "so".... grrrr. Yet...if I'm already having this much "fun" memorizing Katakana, Kanji is going to be a blast! (If only I didn't have A.D.D....)

The way i remember them is:

シ - "shi" (she) is looking up at you
ツ - "tsu" is the opposite of "shi xD haha

ソ - "so", like someone is looking down at you and thinking "ahh, this work is only so-so"
ン - opposite of so LOL

just a little thing how i remember the differences.

頑張ってね! (ganbatte ne!)

Buradorii
Aug 15, 2008, 18:16
The way i remember them is:
シ - "shi" (she) is looking up at you
ツ - "tsu" is the opposite of "shi xD haha
ソ - "so", like someone is looking down at you and thinking "ahh, this work is only so-so"
ン - opposite of so LOL
just a little thing how i remember the differences.
頑張ってね! (ganbatte ne!)

That's pretty clever, lol.:D

Gaberdeen
Aug 15, 2008, 23:53
I rememeber it differently by remembering only how to identify shi's diagonal strokes - N has the distinctive diagonal initial stroke that Shi does and it's easy to remember it as ShiN.

シ Shi 
ン N

ShiN

The opposite is true - so I remember the other 2 similar characters as TsuSo

ツ Tsu 
ソ So 

TsuSo

Pachipro
Aug 16, 2008, 00:08
If you fail to study katagana and are serious about learning all aspects of the language including writing you will surely fail. As was mentioned above, katagana is a must and should be mastered, along with hiragana, before attempting to learn kanji. With a little practice you can master them in a matter of days

HarajukuxBoy
Aug 17, 2008, 00:20
Yes, katakana is a must!

AJBryant
Aug 17, 2008, 02:52
ツ Tsu 
ソ So 
TsuSo

Y'know I never thought of this, but turn that around -- SoTsu -- and you have a mnemonic for the direction of the strokes -- SOUTH.

;)

Tony

Buradorii
Aug 17, 2008, 04:02
Well, I have Hiragana figured out and I aim to learn Katakana by the end of the day, now that I have the time. Thanks to everyone for their words of wisdom and advice!