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riisachan
Oct 8, 2008, 03:11
It's people like THIS man that makes me embarrased to live in Britain. I'm so glad I have an Irish Passport...
A bald, naked man, who said he was a British tourist, has gone swimming in the moat of Japan's Imperial Palace.
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Eyewitnesses said he managed to climb the palace wall, throwing rocks and splashing water at police before being taken into custody.
Television footage showed the tall man getting out of the water at one point, chasing police with a rock and a plastic construction site pole.
He then went back to the murky water and swam across to the other side of the moat, climbing up the eight-metre stone wall of the palace.
He was caught by two policemen, after a chase which eyewitnesses said lasted for an hour-and-a-half.
One witness said: "I've never heard of anyone doing such a thing. He must be a bit crazy."
Words cannot describe my embarassment and anger of the complete disrespect of this disgusting man.
I understand what you feel. Because this sort of stupid behavior instantly reflects on just about anyone from Britain. Even America just even because it also relates to foreigners as a whole who visit. I hope that they seriously deal with this guy. Threatening the police with a rock? If I remember right Japanese police don't have night sticks... hope they grabbed a pole themselves and took him down HARD for threatening to assault an officer.
Frustrated when I see this because I know that while Japanese citizen's do the same crazy-ass crap, it doesn't bring the negativity on foreigners as it does when people out of country do it.
Hiroyuki Nagashima
Oct 8, 2008, 06:11
The news in Japan
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Uncle Frank
Oct 8, 2008, 06:26
Don't the Japanese police have access to the new taser guns? It is great for situations like that.
Uncle Frank
:clueless:
Toritoribe
Oct 8, 2008, 07:02
He called himself a Spanish tourist.
皇居の堀で外国人男性泳ぐ=観光客グループか-東京
10月7日13時57分配信 時事通信
7日午前11時20分ごろ、東京都千代田区皇居外苑の堀 に外国人男性が飛び込んだ。約1時間40分後、堀の石垣 から上がった自称スペイン人男性(40)を警視庁丸の内 署員らが確保した。同署が詳しい状況を調べている。
調べによると、男性が飛び込む直前、40-50代の男女計6人のスペイン人グループが近くの「和田倉門外 交番」を訪れ、英語などで「バッグを堀に落とした。拾う道具を貸してほしい」などと相談。その間に、うち1 人の男性が交番裏から堀に 飛び込んだ。
epigene
Oct 8, 2008, 08:44
Don't the Japanese police have access to the new taser guns? It is great for situations like that.
Uncle Frank
:clueless:
I don't think that Japanese police are allowed to use tasers--yet.
Yes, I also heard that the tourist was Spanish yesterday. This morning, I learned that he's a British national residing in Spain and spoke Spanish to the police officers.
Toritoribe
Oct 8, 2008, 08:59
Ah, I see. Thanks for the info, epigene.:wave: Maybe from Gibraltar?
caster51
Oct 8, 2008, 10:09
Frustrated when I see this because I know that while Japanese citizen's do the same crazy-ass crap, it doesn't bring the negativity on foreigners as it does when people out of country do it.
hahaha
he just gave us a laugh like a crazy tigers fun..
FrustratedDave
Oct 8, 2008, 10:47
Minorities will always ruin it for the rest of us... Maybe people will understand why the police act the way they do towards foriegners... but I seriously doubt it.
GodEmperorLeto
Oct 8, 2008, 15:30
I imagine the Japanese getting a huge laugh out of this, like on their TV shows where gaijin look like idiots. No perfectly sane person would go about this behavior, by the way. He probably tried to pee on the fence of Buckingham Palace, for all we know.
Taiko666
Oct 8, 2008, 16:03
It's people like THIS man that makes me embarrased to live in Britain. I'm so glad I have an Irish Passport...
There was a time in the early '90s when the actions of a small minority of my compatriots made me consider taking up my Irish passport option. However, during a motorcycle tour of Cork, Kerry and Galway I met so many Irish people who actually said they were sorry for me for being English, that I decided I'd never want to become that condescending, and opted to remain among the untouchables. (Not that I regard all Irish people as condescending... my grandad would turn in his grave! But these people helped me see some sort of wider perspective.)
As FrustratedDave points out, idiots like this person (although I think there's a high possibility of him being mentally ill) do affect the way the Japanese police and public regard foreigners. It doesn't excuse prejudice, it just provides a reason.
Anyway, from the reaction of several of my Japanese friends in my office, this character seems to have provoked amusement rather than outrage, so I don't think we shoud treat it too seriously. One amusing aspect of the case is that the Japanese police saw fit to tackle one obviously-less-than-capable middle aged naked man with no fewer than 50 officers.
Taiko666
Oct 8, 2008, 16:17
Don't the Japanese police have access to the new taser guns? It is great for situations like that.
Uncle Frank
:clueless:
Tazers.... No... no... NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
kireikoori
Oct 8, 2008, 16:30
I'm all for a little bit of craziness in this world. But that's just disrespectful.
I'd be nervous as heck to even be at the Imperial Palace, much less even think of pull off this crazy stunt. It's sad to think I'll be associated with this guy. It makes me cringe, even.
caster51
Oct 8, 2008, 16:55
I imagine the Japanese getting a huge laugh out of this, like on their TV shows where gaijin look like idiots
it is a huge laugh.:p
however , there is no negative thought at all.
I feel rather familiarity.
http://i38.tinypic.com/wtt5zn.jpg
awesome
ASHIKAGA
Oct 8, 2008, 17:05
One amusing aspect of the case is that the Japanese police saw fit to tackle one obviously-less-than-capable middle aged naked man with no fewer than 50 officers.
Oh, please! Don't even start. "...no fewer than 50 officers"?? Did we watch the same tape? How could I miss all those police officers? It's pretty low the way you have phrased the above comment. "Japanese police saw fit to tackle one obviously-less-than-capable middle aged naked man"?? what are you trying to insinuate here? You DID see the man throw rocks at the officers, yes? :sick:
What I find interesting is that the man did not get charged. And Yes, the tape was very funny.
Taiko666
Oct 8, 2008, 18:32
Oh, please! Don't even start. "...no fewer than 50 officers"?? Did we watch the same tape? How could I miss all those police officers? It's pretty low the way you have phrased the above comment. "Japanese police saw fit to tackle one obviously-less-than-capable middle aged naked man"?? what are you trying to insinuate here? You DID see the man throw rocks at the officers, yes? :sick:
What I find interesting is that the man did not get charged. And Yes, the tape was very funny.
Mmnn, after re-reading my post I still don't think it was that offensive. Maybe some translation problem? I read about the 50 officers (admittedly on JapanToday) and found it amusing.
The fact that this guy wasn't charged or hurt (or tazered to oblivion...) is testament to some good policing... but if the report of around 50 officers arriving at the scene is accurate then I still find it amusing.
Elizabeth van Kampen
Oct 8, 2008, 18:49
Naked Brit in Imperial Palace Moat
That's strange, I read in one of the Dutch papers that he is a Spaniard. Not British?
Anyhow, he must have suffered from a lack of attention.
GodEmperorLeto
Oct 8, 2008, 19:33
Naked Brit in Imperial Palace Moat
That's strange, I read in one of the Dutch papers that he is a Spaniard. Not British?
Anyhow, he must have suffered from a lack of attention.
Nobody wants to accept this guy as a member of their nationality, apparently.
Therefore, I'll step up to the plate!
Disregard for cultural monuments? Check. Disrespect for authority? Check. Brazenness? Check. Acting like an idiot? Check.
This guy is obviously an American!
epigene
Oct 8, 2008, 19:38
As I mentioned earlier, the guy is a British national who has residence in Spain and can speak Spanish. (He spoke in Spanish and English to the Japanese police officers.)
He was let go, not arrested, to the dismay and anger among the Japanese who heard to the news.
It seems the police decided not to bother with him because he was found to be emotionally unstable. They intend to put him on a plane in a hurry.
pipokun
Oct 8, 2008, 19:56
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As FrustratedDave points out, idiots like this person (although I think there's a high possibility of him being mentally ill) do affect the way the Japanese police and public regard foreigners. It doesn't excuse prejudice, it just provides a reason.
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The police regarded the man as being mentally ill, so they did not arrest him, but just protected and released him.
No excuse "Japan/Japanese/police had prejudice", please.
Aww c'mon, I do think it's pretty funny ~ not the part where he throws rocks at the officers though.
It's always embarrassing when someone of your own nationality does something stupid in another country... :okashii:
undrentide
Oct 8, 2008, 21:20
Mmnn, after re-reading my post I still don't think it was that offensive. Maybe some translation problem? I read about the 50 officers (admittedly on JapanToday) and found it amusing.
The fact that this guy wasn't charged or hurt (or tazered to oblivion...) is testament to some good policing... but if the report of around 50 officers arriving at the scene is accurate then I still find it amusing.
Actually not all of them were policemen, some of them were from fire station. I assume there were rescue people just in case the man drowns in the moat.
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/news/20081007-OYT1T00436.htm
皇居のお濠で「大捕物」、外国人男性が裸で泳ぐ
(裸で皇居のお濠に入った外国人男性(左)=安川純撮影)
7日午前11時半ごろ、東京都千代田区の和田倉門付近の皇居のお濠(ほり)で、外国人の男が裸で泳いでい るのが見つかり、警視庁丸の内署がボートを出して男を追いかける“大捕物”があった。
同署員や消防隊員ら計50人が出動。通行人ら約300人が集まる中、男は、お濠を泳いだり、歩道に上がっ て同署員らに石を投げたりして逃走を続けたが、1時間半後、お濠の石垣によじ登っているところを署員に取り 押さえられた。
同署幹部によると、男は自称40歳のスペイン人で、同日午前11時20分ごろ、ほかの外国人5人とともに 和田倉門にある交番に訪れ、英語で「バッグを落とした」と話していたが、その直後、突然、お濠に飛び込み、 泳ぎながら服を脱いだという。同署で男から事情を聞いている。現場は、大企業の本社ビルが立ち並ぶオフィス 街の一角。
(2008年10月7日14時25分 読売新聞)
Taiko666
Oct 9, 2008, 00:20
The police regarded the man as being mentally ill, so they did not arrest him, but just protected and released him.
No excuse "Japan/Japanese/police had prejudice", please.
I was in no way suggesting that the police were prejudiced against this man; quite the opposite.
NekoMama7
Oct 9, 2008, 04:19
Here in Los Angeles, news reports referred him as a "naked Westerner."
Maybe the police considered him as somewhat mentally unstable, and acted with extra caution. He was, at one point, armed with stones and a stick(?), so that should give the police to use their weapons, but they didn't. Glad he surrendered in peace at the end, but I hope he'll pay for any damages he caused, if any. So, where's the bag that was allegedly lost?
Here in Los Angeles, news reports referred him as a "naked Westerner."
Why label one person or group, when you can label a whole swath at the same time.
riisachan
Oct 15, 2008, 01:48
He's a British person who now lives in Spain. To call himself Spanish would probably be an insult to Spanish people. Tee hee...
Guess the reason I was so mift was because as a race, the British get tarnished with the same brush.
Anohito
Oct 15, 2008, 10:02
[snip]
It's always embarrassing when someone of your own nationality does something stupid in another country... :okashii:
Oh, I saw plenty of that sort of thing when I was in the Navy!
alantin
Oct 15, 2008, 13:18
Maybe the police considered him as somewhat mentally unstable, and acted with extra caution. He was, at one point, armed with stones and a stick(?)
I wonder where that came from..
He was a pretty big naked guy throwing stones and chasing the police with sticks.. I know I would run!
In some picture it looked like the police were trying to tame a hairless bear! :blush:
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