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Knigar
Nov 21, 2008, 07:49
as the titles suggests,
my Japanese Girlfriend has gone back to Japan as her studying has finished, we have been together 2 years and we love each other very much.
She has been pregnant for 9 weeks and we have both decided to keep the baby and want to raise the child as a family.
I am 25 and have a degree I have one year teaching experience behind me before I went to uni. I am applying where I can to get a Visa in Japan so I can live and work there.
Is it somehow possible to get Japanese residency from the Japanese Embassy on the basis that she is carrying our child or not at all?
Or
either way, we want to live in Kanagawa and I don't want to miss out on her pregnancy or the birth of our child.
Do you know any good teaching companies that I can get a job with, please post links even if I have already applied for, I need sponsorship for Visa if here being pregnant doesn't grant me access to live or work in Japan.
Glenski
Nov 21, 2008, 08:01
A degree is all that's needed to get a work visa (and often a teaching job) here.
Tons of places to apply. November to January, sad to say, is the deadest time of year, though. You're going to have to hustle, especially if you aren't even in the country.
Ohayosensei.com
eltnews.com
gaijinpot.com
japantimes.co.jp
PM me for a list of 1-2 dozen others.
Marry your gf, get a spouse visa, and you don't NEED a work visa, though.
pipokun
Nov 21, 2008, 23:13
Two different cases in the same prefecture
Briton arrested in Japan after 'shaking newborn son to death because it wouldn't stop crying'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1048176/Briton-arrested-Japan-shaking-newborn-son-death-wouldnt-stop-crying.html
【コラム】日本政府の子育て(下)
こうした一連の経験は、子供を出産した一般の日本人と まったく同じものだった。外国人だから余計にサービスがいいとか、サービスが少ないとかいうことはなかった。だから、東京に 住む韓国企業の社員や公務員、留学生たちは「うちの家 族で、日本でお金を稼いでくれるのは子供たち」と話す 。韓国からお金を持ち出し、使ってしまう大人たちとは 違い、子供たちは日本で「生活に困らないだけの分を稼 いでくれる」という笑い話だが、その言葉の中には日本 の育児支援システムに対する「うらやましさ」も込めら れている。
東京=鮮于鉦(ソンウ・ジョン)特派員
http://www.chosunonline.com/article/20080917000050
Work hard for her and your kid.
Knigar
Nov 22, 2008, 09:21
I can't read japanese could someone please translate this into english for me or show me an english website with this description
羊水検査
出典: フリー百科事典『ウィキペディア(Wikipedia)』
移動: ナビゲーション, 検索
羊水検査(ようすいけんさ)とは出生前診断の一種。妊 娠子宮に長い注射針に似た針を刺して羊水を吸引するこ と(羊水穿刺)によって得られた羊水中の物質や羊水中 の胎児細胞をもとに、染色体や遺伝子異常の有無を調べ る。妊娠15~18週とかなり胎児が大きく育ってから実施 ウれる。羊水検査で診断できるのは遺伝子など特定の異 に限られており、すべての異常が調べられるわけでは ネい。
1/200~1/300の確率で流産を引き起こす可能性がある[1]。また、稀ではあるが子宮内感染から播種性血管内凝固 症候群を引き起こすこともあり得る。そのため超音波検 査のようにすべての妊婦が受ける質のものではない。高 齢出産に伴うダウン症候群など異常発生率が検査のリス クを越える場合に行われる。胎児の性別判定のみを目的 とした検査ではないが、時には染色体異常の検査と同時 に胎児の性別を知るために行われる事もある。
日本産科婦人科学会倫理委員会は、2007年4月改定版の Kイドラインにおいても、引き続き [2]「重篤なX連鎖遺伝病のために検査が行われる場合を除 き、胎児の性別を告げてはならない」という規定を保っ ている。しかしながら、実際には染色体検査の結果とと もに性別を告知する医師もおり、学会の見解そのものに 意義を唱える動きもある[3]。また血友病の保因者が胎児の性別判定を目的とした羊 水検査を希望したが断られたため中絶を選択したケース [4]もあり、羊水検査は着床前診断同様、倫理問題を抱えて いる。
胎児の異常が発見されたときには、子宮内で大きく育っ た胎児の人工妊娠中絶が実施される確率が高い。
nice gaijin
Nov 22, 2008, 11:28
where'd you get that article? It's about amniotic fluid testing and the various things it's used for, as well as the moral dilemmas about it. looks like it's pretty much just pulled straight from wikipedia.
pipokun, the second link is broken. I'm not sure what you're trying to say by linking to those articles...
Mikawa Ossan
Nov 22, 2008, 11:46
If you're serious about keeping the child and raising it together as a family, I agree with Glenski: marry your girlfriend. Then get a spouse visa and find work.
Drew-san
Nov 22, 2008, 15:07
A rushed marriage is generally not a good thing. I think he should spend a good amount of time with her in Japan before he rushes into something like that. It could be a big mistake.
Mikawa Ossan
Nov 22, 2008, 17:12
With a baby on the way, they don't have a whole lot of time....
pipokun
Nov 22, 2008, 21:53
羊水検査
I assume she wanted him to give some financial help for her checkup, for not everything is covered in the NHI scheme.
*snip
...
pipokun, the second link is broken. I'm not sure what you're trying to say by linking to those articles...
I heard the Chosun Ilbo decided to discontinue their generosity about their archive policy, but I can still access the link.
What I wanted to say is just one thing.
外国人だから余計にサービスがいいとか、サービスが少ないとかいうことはなかった。
The equal treatment under the NHI, Japanese or foreigner.
ArmandV
Nov 23, 2008, 00:54
If you're serious about keeping the child and raising it together as a family, I agree with Glenski: marry your girlfriend. Then get a spouse visa and find work.
I agree, marry her and then your visa problems are solved.
Drew-san
Nov 23, 2008, 04:20
Marrying just because of a child could screw your life up. Live with her for a few months before you jump into it.
Uncle Frank
Nov 23, 2008, 06:47
Marrying just because of a child could screw your life up.
In the old days we called that owning up to your responsibilities; back then, it only seemed right the birth certificate should show a mother & father's name.
Uncle Frank
:blush:
Chidoriashi
Nov 23, 2008, 09:23
In the old days we called that owning up to your responsibilities; back then, it only seemed right the birth certificate should show a mother & father's name.
Uncle Frank
:blush:
I agree, if you wanna be a family as you say you need to marry her, and get ready to be flexible cuz change and adjustment are going to define your life for the next few years.
Mikawa Ossan
Nov 23, 2008, 10:01
In the old days we called that owning up to your responsibilities; back then, it only seemed right the birth certificate should show a mother & father's name.
Uncle Frank
:blush:
Hear, hear!
Plus, a lot of Japanese people get married that way. It's called a "dekichatta kekkon".
Knigar
Nov 23, 2008, 10:11
thanks for the advise guys,
we have lived with each other before in England for a few months and was fine,
I am bored of England anyways my job is dull and I went to Japan twice last year april and august and this year i am going in December for 2 weeks to spend new year with her family
hopefully i will have interviews and tuff sorted out
ArmandV
Nov 23, 2008, 11:58
In the old days we called that owning up to your responsibilities:blush:
Amen to that. If you're gonna play, you gotta pay.
Drew-san
Nov 23, 2008, 16:07
Good luck, you'll need it. -_-'
nice gaijin
Nov 24, 2008, 04:34
Does her family already know about her pregnancy? Or that you two were living together in Britain? Either way, it'll be an interesting Holiday.
And yeah, if you want to really raise this kid with her, do things right and make it official.
Knigar
Nov 25, 2008, 07:09
yes they do, they said wrong timing but they agree with it.
before she was pregnant we had arranged to get married in the end of may but not possible now as wedding dress won't fit so we have to reschedul i dunno what's happening
yes they do, they said wrong timing but they agree with it.
before she was pregnant we had arranged to get married in the end of may but not possible now as wedding dress won't fit so we have to reschedul i dunno what's happening
Well, I've heard crazier reasons for post-poning weddings...
Mikawa Ossan
Dec 1, 2008, 18:02
Just remember that a wedding ceremony in Japan is 100% show and 0% substance.
You get married at city hall, so your wife's dress size won't be an issue. You can always get married before the ceremony. Or you can until afterwards, but whatever you do, don't forget to do the proper paperwork!
help
birth certificate - check
passport - aka proof british national - check
certificate of impediment no no no
I'm iN England, been to Japanese embassy on the phone not very helpful, same as english embassy. apparently I need to certificate from the UK registrar office so i can get it all sorted took me all day to find this out
can i just confirm thsi with you guys, is that the only 3 pieces of documentation i need
Glenski
Dec 3, 2008, 07:03
You will also need a copy of her family register (koseki).
koseki?
is that something she does at her end or is it something i have to organise in England
becki_kanou
Dec 3, 2008, 11:48
She'll have to go to her local city or ward office and get it. I think it's Koseki Tohon no utsushi, but if she goes to the office they should be able to tell her what she needs.
cheers for all the help, getting the certificate of no impediment but is gonna arrive when i am in Japan and my family will post it to me via DHL super aeroplane express.
sow e are getting married on the 4th January in Tokyo, I am very excited.
But she is thinking about living in England, i would rather live in Japan. My fiance thinks it would be best for our child, because he/she will be haf Japanese and she thinks people in Japan will discriminate the child because he/she will not be full Japanese.
I am happy to teach English but she thinks in the next 5 years I will be on a lot more money iN England, which is true, but i have little passion for my job, I work 50+ hours a week. iw ould never force her to do anything against her will.
she wasnt to live in England and I Japan
what do you guys advise?
Drew-san
Dec 8, 2008, 10:00
Live in England.
Glenski
Dec 8, 2008, 10:11
She has only studied in England.
You have never been to Japan, yet you want to live here. Why?
She has more experience in both countries, but what exactly are her plans after moving to the UK? Work or just stay at home and take care of the household?
You have little passion for your current job. The job or the career?
Can you change either? Figure out what that will entail. What do you want out of life? You're only 25. Plenty of time to change things.
Drew-san
Dec 8, 2008, 11:07
She has only studied in England.
You have never been to Japan, yet you want to live here. Why?
She has more experience in both countries
Exactly and she is right about a half Japanese child living in Japan. If you have a better job in England thats even more reason to stay.
She has only studied in England.
You have never been to Japan, yet you want to live here. Why?
She has more experience in both countries, but what exactly are her plans after moving to the UK? Work or just stay at home and take care of the household?
You have little passion for your current job. The job or the career?
Can you change either? Figure out what that will entail. What do you want out of life? You're only 25. Plenty of time to change things.
her plans would be just to look after baby in England, but she has a job in japan and I could get job as well working for same company until she gives bi=rth adn we would be making a nice amount between us for a few months for when our child is born.
I have been to Japan I went twice last year, I have been interested in japanese culture for a long time, way before I met my girlfriend, i was actually going to apply for the JET scheme but i met her and decided not to.
Exactly and she is right about a half Japanese child living in Japan. If you have a better job in England thats even more reason to stay.
I can respect any culture and appreciate it, just wish the discrimination in Japan would change, here's for hoping
Drew-san
Dec 9, 2008, 11:55
That's possible, but not in the time frame your child will be going through the school system.
Exactly and she is right about a half Japanese child living in Japan. If you have a better job in England thats even more reason to stay.
Living in Tokyo is not really a problem in regards to discrimination.
I agree with staying in England. Japan doesn't pay much relative to some Western countries.
Glenski
Dec 9, 2008, 14:55
Exactly and she is right about a half Japanese child living in Japan.
How would you know? You've never even been to Japan, according to your profile!
Some "haafu" children do all right.
Some are bullied.
Some go on to be major talentos.
You have job and income in England !
Japan is an adventure for you .
Stay where you are for the next few years .
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush !
Plan annual holidays in Japan !
becki_kanou
Dec 9, 2008, 16:13
How's her English? Even if you do decide to live in England it might be more comfortable for her to have the baby in Japan where she can easily understand everything the ob/gyn tells her and where she will have her mother to help her for the first few weeks/months.
nice gaijin
Dec 9, 2008, 16:33
A birth in the hand is worth two in the bush !
I sure hope you mean "a BIRD in the hand..." but it's pretty funny this way
Drew-san
Dec 10, 2008, 09:31
How would you know? You've never even been to Japan, according to your profile!
Some "haafu" children do all right.
Some are bullied.
Some go on to be major talentos.
I've never been to Africa either, but I know there are starving kids with AIDS there. I've never been to China, but I hear they have a huge wall. :relief:
It's common knowledge.
Glenski
Dec 11, 2008, 00:03
I've never been to Africa either, but I know there are starving kids with AIDS there. I've never been to China, but I hear they have a huge wall. :relief:
It's common knowledge.
Gimme a break. I live in Japan and have a haafu child. What you read and what is reality are different.
How would you know? You've never even been to Japan, according to your profile!
Some "haafu" children do all right.
Some are bullied.
Some go on to be major talentos.
You ever notice that Japanese tv/music has a disproportionate amount of half talent compared to Japan industry and politics? This is just an observation though. Like the programming on NHK for children in the morning and afternoon(I have two boys). Some programs have half the kids as mixed race...forgot the name of the show. Sometimes I think the only reason they are there is because they are half. Yet these opputnuities would not be afforded them in other parts of Japanese society.
Glenski
Dec 11, 2008, 12:03
The government is inbred. Many politicians are second or third generation politicians. Do you believe they actually TRY to keep out the haafus?
Yes, many of the language programs have haafus. Disproportionate? How can you figure? By their very nature, it suits them and their inherent talents (as long as the non-Japanese parent keeps his language and heritage going; not all do). Makes it easier and more entertaining and accurate to see/hear someone spout off both languages with perfect pronunciation. Where else can you find such people in large numbers here?
I watch a lot of kids' TV programs but I don't see all that many mixed race kids on there. If anything, they want to show that Japanese only can do the work (learning).
So, are you saying by all the above that haafus are reduced to working only in that sort of entertainment industry? I am confused why you brought it up.
uchimizu
Dec 27, 2008, 17:27
Well,
I believe that in Japan, it would be exceptional to live as a couple with a child and not be married. I believe the mother's family would be really crazy (more in this story (http://uchimizu-en.blogspot.com/2008/11/japanese-couples.html)). When it happens, and it is very rare, it has the meaning the father does not "recognize" the child.
Also, even without a baby, it is not really the norm to live together before getting married. This is more common though.
Anyways, living in Japan is a good experience. However, you may want to work out the financials for your life after you come to Japan. Conversation Teacher salaries in Japan may not be enough for you to sustain a family (depends on the lifestyle you wish, where you live...).
A rushed marriage is generally not a good thing. I think he should spend a good amount of time with her in Japan before he rushes into something like that. It could be a big mistake.
Knigar,
all the best of luck for you! I suppose you guys are married now, so congratulations!
I'm partly in the same boat as you. Visa problems, paper work, etc etc and most of all, deciding the country where to live! For us it might also be a battle between UK and Japan, and also Finland lurking in the background...
But to be honest, for the child, I think Japan might be better. It's safer in Japan than in UK, and the mother can understand everything that concerns her and her baby.
I hope you don't mind, but that's why I felt uncomfortable in UK. It didn't feel safe. Country with many nice things, but for children Japan might still be a nicer place to be...and this is just my opinion - not a fact.
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