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Picardo
Sep 11, 2003, 03:33
When does the sexual education start in Japan, i know that in GB they start with it when they are aprox 17 years old, and then they complain about the amount of teen pregnancies. And when i say sexual education i meen for some exemples how to get birthcontroll pills and things like that.
Something i allso want to know is the price of condoms in japan, cause i have heard that they are very expensive in the USA so i´m curious about if it´s something like that in Japan also.
ViciousBrutality
Sep 11, 2003, 09:17
I don't know about Japanese condoms, but american condoms are like 10$, a little bit more, maybe 12$ for a 12 pack with usually contains an extra one, and those little three packs cost like just under 5$ or maybe 4$ or so, I usually buy 12 packs. The 36 packs cost around 20$. I think these prices are crazy but what am I going to do about it. I don't like kids.
-X-
jeisan
Sep 11, 2003, 11:02
they start sex ed here around 11-12
you go to a public high school in los angeles and they give em out for free... but i dont know if i would use ones from school
they really don't start sex ed til 17 in GB? that doesn't seem right, wouldn't most people have figured it out for themselves by then? lol
jeisan
Sep 11, 2003, 15:38
yeah or you can goto a free clinic and they give them away there too, but usually the crappy ones...
kirei_na_me
Sep 11, 2003, 22:25
From what I understand--at least where my husband is from--they are only taught about one hour's worth of sex education in their whole, entire high school career, and then, it was only to "tell how to get pregnant". Maybe someone else knows more than I do, because maybe it varies from place to place, but at my husband's high school in the Aichi prefecture, they were taught sex education in only one hour--maybe two. Which, by the way, didn't seem to be enough for some of the Japanese girls I knew. I once had a lesson in my living room one day with 3 of my Japanese friends on when and what exactly happens to your body during the time you are able to get pregnant. None of them knew at what time of the month they could get pregnant and they knew nothing about what was going on in their body at that time and knew nothing about the mechanics of fertilization(besides that, I mean) and implantation and all of that. I guess that was where being the daughter of a sex ed. teacher came in handy...
I do know that birth control pills are not widely used in Japan. When I was taking them while my husband and I were dating, he was scared they would "mess up" my body and couldn't understand why I would take them, because "they are not popular in Japan". Also, as a general rule, tubal ligations are not done over there either. They see that as kind of self-mutilation or something of the sort--that you shouldn't cut anything on your body that doesn't need to be cut. I wound up doing that anyway, though, after my children were born. It really shocked all of my Japanese friends and my husband's co-workers. I think condoms are the main method of birth control in Japan, no? Well...I know of some other smart answers, but I'm being serious here...:p
ghettocities
Sep 12, 2003, 03:25
The Material Child by Merry White puts Japanese teenagers in comparison with American teenagers and let me tell you right now, if you have ANY questions concerning sex in Japan or anything else that concerns youth in Japan then check that book out, I found/still find it hard to believe it's main purpose is for Sociological studies rather than my own entertainment.
It looks like this book is out of print but you can still find it online (lucky for me I already own a copy,)
http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y02Y5362701Y6353254/qid=1063304491/sr=1-2/002-3507885-7224866
Josh
http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com
for a badtzmaru one, during my first trip
i actually thought it was 10 for that price, but it turned out to be the weight of the box :(
SalaryMan
Sep 12, 2003, 08:46
A typical pack of condoms in japan can cost like 1100‰~ for 12... or you could be cheap like me and buy 3 x 12 packs for 400‰~ it really varies alot here.
As for Japan's sex ed... kirei na me's husband has it summed up there perfectly. 1 hour worth of sex ed is what I heard to... and that sexual educatio is mainly a promotion of sexual intercourse .. nothing like the dangers or accidental pregnancys.. basically you get taught for 1 hour that sex is good and you should do it... can you believe that before 1999 japan had NO age of concent?
anyway this whole "sex is good" sex ed makes japan into a rape machine... 16,000+ chinese women raped in 3 weeks by japanese men proves that point. I really think they shoudl start sex ed at 16 here and continue it regulaly for 4 years on a weekly basis.
kirei_na_me
Sep 12, 2003, 09:21
I also don't think they teach it enough there, because you have quite a few women that have no idea about their bodies, what parts are where, and how they function, and I don't think that's too cool. I had one friend who didn't know what the cervix was and that it had to dilate in order to deliver a baby, even after she had a baby.
Sorry to get graphic guys....
ghettocities
Sep 12, 2003, 09:28
Originally posted by SalaryMan
anyway this whole "sex is good" sex ed makes japan into a rape machine... 16,000+ chinese women raped in 3 weeks by japanese men proves that point. I really think they shoudl start sex ed at 16 here and continue it regulaly for 4 years on a weekly basis.
Thats all just because Japanese Adult Animation and/or hentai. I can remember on one occasion while at a love-hotel with my current girlfriend we had the 'Adult Channel' in the background, it had an Anime on, so I watched it and it was all demons, things with tentacles and five minutes into it I found myself trying to mimic one of the demons by placing an entire half of my girlfriend's chest in my mouth (not to go into any gross detail,) but yeah, I think that has a big influence.
Also if you watch the Adult Channel's at the Love hotels they always have Intros before the new shows start and 99.8% (When it's not a taboo,) It's an older man 35-50 and a really young girl 18-22, i'm serious and I remember this one night I asked the girl I was with why they had it on because it was grossing me out and she said it was because 'Salary men' are one of the most common users of the love hotels, sadly it's often with young school girls and it's there to "aide them". That's messed up, seriously.
Josh
http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com
kirei_na_me
Sep 12, 2003, 09:35
Oh yeah, that's sad about those young girls with those older men. But you know what, "they got a thing for that Gucci, that Fendi, that Prada"(as 50 Cent would say), and some of them are going to do whatever it takes to get it. Even where my friend lives near Gifu prefecture--which is more countryside--it's rampant there, too, she said. My friend's friend and other aquaintances were/had been pregnant and didn't know who they belonged to, because they'd been with so many "for getting gifts"...
Elizabeth
Sep 12, 2003, 09:49
Originally posted by kirei_na_me
Oh yeah, that's sad about those young girls with those older men. But you know what, "they got a thing for that Gucci, that Fendi, that Prada"(as 50 Cent would say), and some of them are going to do whatever it takes to get it. Even where my friend lives near Gifu prefecture--which is more countryside--it's rampant there, too, she said. My friend's friend and other aquaintances were/had been pregnant and didn't know who they belonged to, because they'd been with so many "for getting gifts"...
And here is just the latest (of way too many :bawling: enjo kosai threads I could find.....
http://forum.japanreference.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3012&highlight=enjo
ghettocities
Sep 12, 2003, 11:38
Originally posted by Elizabeth
And here is just the latest (of way too many :bawling: enjo kosai threads I could find.....
http://forum.japanreference.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3012&highlight=enjo
http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com/chikan.jpg
Buddy of mine just got back from Tokyo and had this great photo for his section on Ghettocities Clothing dot com which pretty much describes without words the Enjo Kosai (while it takes place behind him.)
Josh
http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com
mdchachi
Sep 12, 2003, 20:45
> None of them knew at what time of the month they could get pregnant and they knew nothing about what was going on in their body at that time
Sounds like you need some updated info yourself. ;-)
http://www.msnbc.com/news/936390.asp?cp1=1
Standard medical science says a woman has a cycle running roughly 28 days in which an egg ripens, is released by the follicle, drops into the fallopian tube, and then is either fertilized or shed during menstruation.
...
?We had 63 women with normal menstrual cycles. Of those 63, only 50 had normal ovarian cycles,? Pierson said.
Thirteen of the women ovulated multiple times, in various different ways. And of the other 50, 40 percent had up to three waves of activity by the follicles, any one of which could result in the production of an egg.
...
?It really explains how we get fraternal twins with different conception days,? Pierson said. ?Clinically, we see this all the time. We see women come in with twins and when we do an ultrasound we see one is at one 10 weeks development and another at seven.?
> I had one friend who didn't know what the cervix was and that it had to dilate in order to deliver a baby, even after she had a baby.
And why should she have known this? I know women who don't know what a transmission is but they use one to drive a car. ;-)
mdchachi
Sep 12, 2003, 20:58
> None of them knew at what time of the month they could get pregnant and they knew nothing about what was going on in their body at that time
Sounds like you need some updated info yourself. ;-)
http://www.msnbc.com/news/936390.asp?cp1=1
Standard medical science says a woman has a cycle running roughly 28 days in which an egg ripens, is released by the follicle, drops into the fallopian tube, and then is either fertilized or shed during menstruation.
...
gWe had 63 women with normal menstrual cycles. Of those 63, only 50 had normal ovarian cycles,h Pierson said.
Thirteen of the women ovulated multiple times, in various different ways. And of the other 50, 40 percent had up to three waves of activity by the follicles, any one of which could result in the production of an egg.
...
gIt really explains how we get fraternal twins with different conception days,h Pierson said. gClinically, we see this all the time. We see women come in with twins and when we do an ultrasound we see one is at one 10 weeks development and another at seven.h
> I had one friend who didn't know what the cervix was and that it had to dilate in order to deliver a baby, even after she had a baby.
And why should she have known this? I know women who don't know what a transmission is but they use one to drive a car. ;-)
kirei_na_me
Sep 12, 2003, 21:33
Whatever. I think that if you are having babies, you should at least know what's going on. I think for a lot of women, that's common knowledge.
By the way, I know very well that not all women's cycles are alike. That's also....common knowledge? I'm a doula, once an aspiring midwife, mother is sex ed. teacher for 30 years, and besides all of that, I'm a mother of 3.
I think not knowing what a transmission is and driving a car is completely different from not knowing what the functions of organs unique to your own body are. Especially if you're actually using them to produce another human being.
*edit* Okay, maybe I'm being a little emotional and woman-like this morning. Let me just say that yeah, I know cycles are different, producing more than just one egg in a cycle, and such. If a woman doesn't know how her body works, then that's fine with me. Look, it's early in the morning, I'm dealing with 2 of my kids going to school for the first time in their lives, empty nest syndrome, hormones...you know...that kind of thing.... ;)
Hmmm...about the "Pill" taking...
I absolutely agree... seems that most Japanese think it is "unnatural" to use the Pill...
*and* any other medicine for that matter...
say... if someone has a wheezy chesty cough for example... for a few years even...it wouldn't occur to that person that perhaps they have asthma and should see a doctor about it & get medicine to solve the problem...
(possibly... as has been mentioned in another thread... even the Japanese doctors seem to be reluctant to give medicine!-o.o!)
Also, it seems that the Japanese tend to delude themselves into thinking that they are immune to most afflictions...
try mentioning something as simple as "maybe you are allergic to".... *whatever*... pollen, animals,silver... anything... to a Japanese person & they will deny it completely... even if they have a runny rose & teary eyes on high pollen count days... even if they get a little rash where they insist on wearing silver...
it seems as though there is the idea in their minds that admitting to these problems somehow reduces them.
They would much prefer to simply suffer through it than seek out any medicine that may help them.
Also, it seems that you are judged as "weak" if you happen to have any of these things wrong with you -_-!
It makes me *really* depressed thinking how people who are really sick or have learning or physical disablities must be treated in Japan -_-!
Anyway.... I remember my J-girlfriend mentioning about those girls that have sex "for gifts"... & after browsing this forum a bit... & checking out some things...
I see that this is a common problem! - ;_;
ah, the thought of someone giving their body in exchange for something as *stupid* as a designer bag or whatever!...;_;...
*sooo* sad!...
especially a young girl with an old salaryman - ;_;
& o.0!!!... no age of consent until 1999!!! - o.0!!!...
how can the Japanese be so advanced in some areas & so backwards in others?
There really needs to be a radical overhaul in Japanese Sex education!... & in peoples attitudes towards sex.... sex isn't just *good*... sex can bring unwanted lives into the world..... & there are diseases to be concerned about too....
it seems like Japanese girls are in the dark about some simple facts too... like that diseases & infections *can* be spread through oral sex... theis kind of thing should be common knowledge.
There needs to be a change in the Japanese attitude towards sickness & *real* medicine....
(perhaps, most likely, it is looked down on if you are a Japanese girl who is on the Pill?... & most are too ashamed to try & get such things?.... perhaps it's even difficult to get such things over there?... I'm only guessing, but I have a feeling I may be right!)
& there needs to be some common sense education that lets girls know that they *are* someone special... even *without* that famous designer bag!
Sex for fashion... that pathetic materialistic idea makes me *sick* - ;_;
About the "tubal ligation" kind of thing... yep... I remember mentioning that my father had been "fixed" to my J-girlfriend & she had no idea what I was taking about... & when I explained it to her she was shocked!... at first she pictured that my fathers testicles had been removed! - o.0!..anyway....I explained & she had no idea that such a thing could even be done & was very surprised that it was pretty common - o.0!...
what do married couples with kids in Japan do?... do they just not have sex at all? o.o?
ghettocities
Sep 13, 2003, 07:54
Originally posted by mdchachi
>
And why should she have known this? I know women who don't know what a transmission is but they use one to drive a car. ;-)
Very well said. Bravo x 2.
Josh
http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com
jeisan
Sep 13, 2003, 09:20
what do married couples with kids in Japan do?... do they just not have sex at all? o.o? ...not with each other at least
kirei_na_me
Sep 13, 2003, 09:31
...not with each other at least
Well, I didn't want to say anything...but...
ghettocities
Sep 13, 2003, 10:03
This topic reassures my own beliefs and I now know that my choice of me being a virgin until marriage is the right thing.
Josh
http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com
jeisan
Sep 13, 2003, 10:13
lmao :D josh is also up for the nobel "piece" prize
mdchachi
Sep 13, 2003, 14:20
Originally posted by kirei_na_me
Whatever. I think that if you are having babies, you should at least know what's going on. I think for a lot of women, that's common knowledge.
By the way, I know very well that not all women's cycles are alike. That's also....common knowledge? I'm a doula, once an aspiring midwife, mother is sex ed. teacher for 30 years, and besides all of that, I'm a mother of 3.
I think not knowing what a transmission is and driving a car is completely different from not knowing what the functions of organs unique to your own body are. Especially if you're actually using them to produce another human being.
*edit* Okay, maybe I'm being a little emotional and woman-like this morning. Let me just say that yeah, I know cycles are different, producing more than just one egg in a cycle, and such. If a woman doesn't know how her body works, then that's fine with me. Look, it's early in the morning, I'm dealing with 2 of my kids going to school for the first time in their lives, empty nest syndrome, hormones...you know...that kind of thing.... ;)
I was just messing with ya. I didn't really expect you to be aware of research that just came out this year.
I was also mostly jesting when I came up with the car analogy. I meet guys all the time who don't know where their seminiferous tubules are or that they even have any. I know it's shocking but what're you gonna do? ;)
Enjoy your free time now that you have the opportunity.
kirei_na_me
Sep 13, 2003, 20:48
Originally posted by mdchachi
Enjoy your free time now that you have the opportunity.
Thank you, mdchachi. If I can just get through the stress of them being gone first. I think I have almost adjusted, though. It doesn't help when my mom is going around saying(regarding my oldest starting Kindergarten), "this is the end of the innocence"... :eek:
I do look forward to getting used to it all, though, and enjoying my free time...*dreaming*
I am curious...
it has been mentioned that no age of consent existed until 1999 in Japan...
& I decided to do a bit of research...
I'm quite confused though...
in 1999 was the age of consent raised from 13 to 18?...
there are mentions of "it is now illegal to *pay* for sex with someone who is under age"...
uh-huh... *I should hope so!!!*
:eek:
what about those who have sex willingly though?
Is it not against the law in Japan to have sex with girls under say... 16?...
regardless of whether or not there was money involved?
I am quite curious about this... I have read that 80-90% of child pornography originates in Japan!!! - ;_;!!!
surely that must be an exaggeration... but... well.. I'd really appreciate if someone could post some genuine facts & laws concerning sexual issues in Japan.
Are the laws as vague as they seem to be to me...
there seems to be a huge difference in the legal age from place to place...
& very importantly... how likely is someone to serve a jail sentence for having sex with an underage girl?
It saddens me deeply to think that perhaps it is *ok* that underage girls would have sex with older men... ;_;
any information would be appreciated!
Also... I'm curious...
the foreign women who have Japanese husbands & children...
how worried are you about these kind of things?...
Are you afraid that your children may some day be taken advantage of?...
or is the reality actually that these kind of things happen only very infrequently & that things like the whole "schoolgirls having sex for designer goods" is blown out of proportion?...
I am curious... if I ever moved to Japan & had kids...
I would hate to think of them growing up thinking that it was "acceptable" to have sex for material gain - ;_;
I imagine.... or at least *I hope*... that things are better there than I have gathered!...
ah, they must be.... I'm sure the majority of Japanese girls & guys find these kind of things completely unacceptable....right?
jeisan
Sep 14, 2003, 04:35
well you should take it more a person per person rather than saying its accepted on the whole. i think the school prostitution thing is something like 10% of all school girls in japan, and its actually dropped since 10 years ago. i may be wrong, so anyone feel free to correct me. either way how your kids are brought up is up to you, not society. you can teach them what you feel is morally right and wrong.
I'm *not* saying it's accepted on the whole...
I'm saying *I hope* & would like to think that it is *un*-acceptable by the vast majority of Japanese... obviously.
the idea of it being accepted by the majority would make me very sad indeed.
Saying how you bring up your kids is how they will turn out & that society doesn't influence them is *so* wrong!!!...
you are right that it is up to the parents to instill some kind of good moral values though!:) ...
perhaps the parents of those girls who prostitute themselves failed to place any moral guidelines in their children's minds?
Though what I'm really wondering I guess... & what I'm asking... is whether or not good moral values are commonly taught in Japan?
Is there a gap there?... perhaps not enough love is given to the children?
I imagine they must be cared for as much as any other nation...
:)
though I have read these disturbing things & would love to hear what a Japanese person has to say about all this.
You are right that a loving home environment would be great for your child by the way.... & lay the foundation for that child to know the difference between right & wrong... but really, that child will be heavily influenced by those around them... their friends.... for guidelines on how they should act.
So....just how important is it to a girl to own designer items?
& how do Japanese girls view sex in general?...
I remember that in sex education when I was in Primary school
(very young) we were taught things like... "& when a man & a woman love each other very much.... & they are married... they show their affection for each other by having sex & from that union chilren can be born" that kind of thing.... (might sound lame but the *idea* is very important.... sex=love ....apparently, there is nothing like that in Japan...
it is *ridiculous* to have only an hour of sex education!...
& *stupid* to have it begin as late as 16!...
*obviously* there will be children curious about such things from an earlier age...
& it is better to inform them much younger about these kind of things (Imo)...
(at least the basic principle of sex only happening between people who love one another... & that children come of it)
(especially in an envirnoment such as Japan... where there are *so* many open shops that sell pornography...
I was very surprised by that when I went there...
children could very easily see these things just by walking by the shops!
Anyway... that's all I can think of at the moment....
my deepest apologies to any Japanese who I have offended by making "blanket judgements"... I don't mean to do that...
& hate people making such judgements!
it's really just that I know a few Japanese...
& have been to Japan... & have only recently read all of these very negative things about Japanese...
I have lived with a Japanese guy for a while & also with my Japanese girlfriend for a while & worked alongside Japanese in work... & I have thought of them as being really good people...
(sure there are little things that I find strange... but that's only natural!)
& I love my girlfriend very much....
I in no way think of the Japanese in a negative light!
My current concerns are pretty much the product of browsing this forum & doing a bit of research!...
but I hope someone can answer some of my questions...
& help me understand how this problem can exist in Japan with the young girls prostituting themselves.
mdchachi
Sep 14, 2003, 12:30
it has been mentioned that no age of consent existed until 1999 in Japan...
& I decided to do a bit of research...
I'm quite confused though...
in 1999 was the age of consent raised from 13 to 18?...
there are mentions of "it is now illegal to *pay* for sex with someone who is under age"...
uh-huh... *I should hope so!!!*
:eek:
what about those who have sex willingly though?
Is it not against the law in Japan to have sex with girls under say... 16?...
regardless of whether or not there was money involved?
According to my 10 minutes of web research -- the age of consent for sexual activity is 13 (but there may be additional laws at the local level about this). The age of consent for marriage is 18 for men & 16 for women. Child prostitution -- paying for sex with a person under 18 -- is illegal. (Actually I think prostitution at any age is illegal except that certain paid sexual services for adults is not considered prostution whereas the same action done by somebody under 18 would be illegal.) So, to answer your question, it looks like consensual sex starts at 13. (Though you never know, they could probably apply a vaguely worded obscenity law
to prosecute certain cases).
I have read that 80-90% of child pornography originates in Japan!!! - ;_;!!!
surely that must be an exaggeration...
That seems unlikely to me as well.
how likely is someone to serve a jail sentence for having sex with an underage girl?
I've never heard of anybody getting punished for having consensual sex in Japan. In the U.S. it's a problem the other way around. If an 18-year-old has consensual sex with a 17-year-old, the 18-year-old can be prosecuted for "statutory rape."
It saddens me deeply to think that perhaps it is *ok* that underage girls would have sex with older men... ;_;
Depends what you mean by "underage." In any case, it's illegal to pay for sex with a person under 18. So it's not okay.
I am curious... if I ever moved to Japan & had kids...
I would hate to think of them growing up thinking that it was "acceptable" to have sex for material gain - ;_;
Well, if they were your kids then you would raise them not to think this way. There are "moral dangers" in every country. Illegal "recreational" drugs are not unusual in my country but I was raised to believe they were bad, hence I never tried them.
Though what I'm really wondering I guess... & what I'm asking... is whether or not good moral values are commonly taught in Japan?
Is there a gap there?... perhaps not enough love is given to the children?
I imagine they must be cared for as much as any other nation...
Yes, of course, morals are taught in Japan. But the question becomes what do you mean by "moral values" and who gets to decide? Just because you may think it's wrong to have sex at a certain age or before marriage doesn't mean that it is wrong or that other people should feel the same way.
& how do Japanese girls view sex in general?...
In general women seem to feel that it is -- or should be -- a pleasurable activity. That's about it. I don't know how school-age girls feel about it.
I remember that in sex education when I was in Primary school
(very young) we were taught things like... "& when a man & a woman love each other very much.... & they are married... they show their affection for each other by having sex & from that union chilren can be born" that kind of thing.... (might sound lame but the *idea* is very important.... sex=love ....apparently, there is nothing like that in Japan...
it is *ridiculous* to have only an hour of sex education!...
& *stupid* to have it begin as late as 16!...
In Japan, I think the equation is more like sex=pleasure.
In the U.S. we had an hour or so of "sexual education" in grade (primary) school, probably around 5th grade. It went over the mechanics of the body & puberty. Probably love & monogamy & waiting for marriage were advocated -- I don't remember. It was a secular school, so there was no explicit religious component. My Japanese spouse said her experience was similar -- e.g. some basic instruction in grade school.
I have lived with a Japanese guy for a while & also with my Japanese girlfriend for a while & worked alongside Japanese in work...
& I love my girlfriend very much....
So what does your girlfriend say about all this?
jeisan
Sep 14, 2003, 13:46
I've never heard of anybody getting punished for having consensual sex in Japan. In the U.S. it's a problem the other way around. If an 18-year-old has consensual sex with a 17-year-old, the 18-year-old can be prosecuted for "statutory rape."
well in texas at least, not sure about the rest of the country, but the actual age of consent is 15 meaning that 15 year olds can have sex with 15 year olds etc, but 14 year olds cant have sex with anyone. also the statutory rape charge has a 3 year grace period attached to it. meaing 18&16 is ok as well as 20&17. they will go exactly birthday to birthday.
Thank you very much for your reply mdchachi!
That was my thought when I had finished reading certain articles....
that the age of sexual consent in 13...
but that local "corrupting a minor" laws exist...
I guess it's just a big cultural difference...
but I must say that I find it *quite* disturbing thinking that a 30 year old man could have consensual sex with a 13 year old girl & no harsh legal action would be taken against him...
because in my mind the young girl is being taken advantage of... simply because she is too young to really know what she is doing. (she may not be aware even that she may get pregnant or get a disease)
Hmmm.... you are right, obviously that morals are different everywhere... I guess what I really meant there wasn't so much morals in general... but more...that there should be some teaching that sex=love rather than sex=pleasure...
the sex = pleasure equation puts sex at a very low level...
& if that is true, then it is easy to imagine Japanese schoolgirls having sex for money.
Oh, & I was educated in a multinational school with no one religion... though I am "Catholic" ....like alot of Irish.. I don't go to church or practice in any way... & don't see myself as really having any religion & I generally think that religion is a bad idea... & I also think that sex outside marriage is great...
*but* I do think that sex should only take place between *people who love each other.*
You ask what my girlfriend thinks about all of this...
sadly, she's back in Japan at the moment...
& I won't be seeing her until Christmas! ;_;!
I don't think this kind of thing is something that I would want to bring up when I chat to her on phone next time... we both have enough things on our mind....though we *have* talked about such things before...
I remember that she wasn't aware of any "age of consent" existing in Japan...
& found it amusing that in Ireland...a guy who was 18 was breaking the law if they had sex with someone who was16...
(17 is the age on consent in Ireland)...
I too find this to be quite amusing by the way...
I think there is much room for improvement with most "age of consent" laws!
:)
Anyway... she sees sex as pleasurable... (as I would hope everyone does!)
;)
but she also only has sex with someone she cares for.
She feels very sad for those schoolgirls who prostitute themslelves... though understands the reasons they do so...
there is *alot* of pressure on girls to be "fashionable"
That's about it really!
Carolgirl00
Sep 15, 2003, 13:06
oy. So much new negative information on Japan. :confused:
It's starting to make me wonder if I really want to go there or not! I see lots of ppl here are giving statistics, well how accurate are these? I heard that there is hardly any crime in Tokyo and that only stabbings and small stuffs make the news. There are 2 completely diffrent sides to this matter... I'm very confused now.
ghettocities
Sep 15, 2003, 15:15
Originally posted by Carolgirl00
oy. So much new negative information on Japan. :confused:
It's starting to make me wonder if I really want to go there or not! I see lots of ppl here are giving statistics, well how accurate are these? I heard that there is hardly any crime in Tokyo and that only stabbings and small stuffs make the news. There are 2 completely diffrent sides to this matter... I'm very confused now.
You shouldn't let others detour you away from your dreams/goals and I bet you 20.00 dollars that if you went to Japan you'd realize there is nothing to worry about and you'd have the time of your life.
Japan is like a dream come true. I swear.
Josh
http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com
neko_girl22
Sep 15, 2003, 17:08
Carolgirl, there is good and bad wherever you go. Foreigners tend to take notice of the negative stuff because it stands out. Sex education really needs improvement in Japan ,but, I'm sure you can think of problems in your own country that needs attention, right?
If you are interested in Japan and want to travel there, don't let a few negative things put you off - or you will never travel anywhere!!!
I am enjoying my time in Japan and am focusing on all the great experiences I have everyday! I'm sure you'll have a great time too ;)
*Absolutely!*...
Carolgirl!.... Japan is a truly wonderful place!
I really mean that, as I have mentioned in another thread...
I have only spent one month there...
but *it was the best month of my life!*:happy:
the people were very helpful & friendly... there are *so* many exciting things there that you will see...
*spectacular* festivals & fireworks...
& great temples & beautiful countryside!:happy:
if I could, I would pack my bags right now & be over there in a second!
Don't let these negative things put you off... Japan is *great!*...
sure, there are some social & legal issues that perhaps need more looking at... as nzueda says there are problems with *every* country... here in Ireland for example... we have a pretty huge homeless problem... we have priests who have abused children being protected by the Church (though this is changing)... we have a big alcoholism problem...& it's not safe at all here to roam the city streets late at night... you won't find any of this in Japan! ...
nowhere have I felt safer than in Japan actually!...
those negative things that are being discussed... they *will not* affect you having a great time there!
Go... & as ghettocities says... you will have the time of your life!:happy: :) :cool:
"The Material Child by Merry White puts Japanese teenagers in comparison with American teenagers and let me tell you right now, if you have ANY questions concerning sex in Japan or anything else that concerns youth in Japan then check that book out, I found/still find it hard to believe it's main purpose is for Sociological studies rather than my own entertainment.
It looks like this book is out of print but you can still find it online (lucky for me I already own a copy"
is this the same book?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0520089405/qid=1063784328/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-8108035-9054357?v=glance&s=books
http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/2849.html
Carolgirl00
Sep 18, 2003, 11:51
well, thank you every1 for the great encouragement!! And, yes, you are all right. No country is perfect and everyone has their own quirks. Me and my mother are now planning a trip in about a year. I'm looking forward to it very much. ^-^
keneda_ninja
Sep 22, 2003, 03:40
In England you don't get taught sex education at 17!! You leave school at either 15 or 16 over here!! At primary school (when I was about 9) I got taught about the 'private parts' + about sanitary protection. At secondary school (when I was 11) I was told how sex is done. When I was about 13 I was told about all the different types of contraceptives. But none of that mattered because my older sister had told me everything when I was about 8 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!
kirei_na_me
Sep 22, 2003, 04:57
Hehe...I also knew about all of that by the time I was about 7. My mom taught sex education and I was around so many books and filmstrips(woah, that is old school) that it couldn't be avoided. I remember coming home from the second grade and asking her where babies really came from, because someone had told me they came from someplace else(as in body part) and I was not buying that explanation... :p
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