Hamas is Japan?

[Astroboy]

Jerusalem Post quotes what Israel Beiteinu chairman Avigdor Lieberman said:

"We must continue to fight Hamas just like the United States did with the Japanese in World War II," Lieberman added. "Then, too, the occupation of the country was unnecessary."

In 1945, Japan unconditionally surrendered to the US following two atomic bomb attacks on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. A ground invasion of mainland Japan had been prepared at the time, but was avoided due to the Japanese capitulation after the bombings.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231774444907&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Does this mean that Israel is going to drop A-Bomb to Gaza ?

[Astroboy]

Shadow of Warsaw Ghetto over Gaza-Israel border

Now, the Palestinians are penned in, grimly, behind 50 km (30 miles) of wall and fencing, their backs to the sea, and Hamas guerrillas cast themselves in the role of the underdog, battling the tanks and jet fighters of the Middle East's only nuclear power with rifles and improvised bombs and rockets.

At demonstrations around the world and in chatter on the Web, protests crackle with shock-value comparison between Israel today and Jewish history, from the Vatican cardinal who called Gaza a "concentration camp" to bloggers who see in it a new Warsaw Ghetto, Gaza's fighters in the role of Anielewicz..............
http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/01/10/shadow-of-warsaw-ghetto-over-gaza-israel-border/

History repeats itself ... but in backspin sometimes. :okashii:

[Emoni]

You can learn a lot from history... however, making gross generalizations and comparing situations that are not even remotely similar isn't good in anyway...

[Astroboy]

You can learn a lot from history... however, making gross generalizations and comparing situations that are not even remotely similar isn't good in anyway...
So you don't believe ... Israel may drop A-bomb to Gaza ?

[Emoni]

Is that now the question?

No I don't believe that is likely at all. As careless as they are in respect to the civilian population, I do not think they would nuke and obliterate the gaza strip killing thousands and thousands of people just because.

[Astroboy]

Is that now the question?
No I don't believe that is likely at all. As careless as they are in respect to the civilian population, I do not think they would nuke and obliterate the gaza strip killing thousands and thousands of people just because.

'Wiping out Palestinians'

Nearly 1,000 Gazans have been killed, 4,400 have been injured, and an estimated 90,000 have fled their homes since Israel's offensive on Gaza began on 27 December, according to Palestinian figures.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7827776.stm

Already one thousands.

[Emoni]

Not to be picky, but at least quote correctly. That says nearly 1,000, that doesn't equal 1,000. Never-the-less it is a very sad situation.

However, if you are saying 1,000 somehow means a nuke would be used... you need to read up on the shear power of a nuclear bomb. It is my main focus of study and if 1,000 seems like a lot compare that to the 100,000+ that such a device can wipe out in less than a second.

I seriously think you need to start considering posting more thoughtfully. You seem to have a tread lately of just throwing up the most random of things and thinking they are valid and sensible posts without the logic to support it.

[caster51]

Mordechaj Anielewicz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechaj_Anielewicz
Yad Mordechai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yad_Mordechai
Report: Israel Forced Civilians Into Single House, Repeatedly Bombed It
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/09/report-israel-forced-civilians-into-single-house-repeatedly-bombed-it/
The International Red Cross has begun accusing Israel of actively blocking aid to wounded civilians.
http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/content/weekly_forecasts/2009-01-12/israels-losing-pr-war-january-12-2009/
Israel Is Committing War Crimes
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123154826952369919.html
Restrained Obama leaves many displeased
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-gaza-obama7-2009jan07,0,5174045.story
today's Yad_Mordechai is not a Jew....
Israel Bans Arab Parties From Election
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/12/israel-bans-arab-parties-from-election/
Hamas-Gaza bows to Damascus leaders' veto against Egyptian ceasefire terms
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5844
anyway
"Strong point as the victim" of Israel changes into "Weakness as the assailant".
The person who sympathizes with Nazi's Holocaust will be gone.
However
it is simple to guess...
I think it is a farce of Israel and Hamas to allure Iran.
The root is the same as hamas and Israel.
Iran should notice it.
Obama wants Iran to attck Israel
If many abnormal actions of Israel are seen, it is likely to understand.
Evil USA

Hamas is Japan?
I think Iran will be Japan in this case:p

[Astroboy]

I seriously think you need to start considering posting more thoughtfully. You seem to have a tread lately of just throwing up the most random of things and thinking they are valid and sensible posts without the logic to support it.

I seriously think you need to consider posting "thoroughly" as you are obviously making unproductive posting. :blush:

[Astroboy]

I think Iran will be Japan in this case

Iran is at least a democratic country as they adopt universal suffrage. So Iran and Palestine are the same as Japan.

However .... Israel bans Aran Parties from Election.

The Israeli Central Elections Committee decided to ban the Balad Party from running in next month’s election. By a margin of 21-8, they also banned the United Arab List-Ta’al (UAL-T). The two bans will prevent more than half of the current Arab members of Israel’s Parliament, the Knesset, from running for reelection.

The Arab parties earned the ire of the most hawkish elements in the Israeli government by publicly opposing the ongoing war in the Gaza Strip. Balad likewise made enemies by explicitly calling for equal rights for all citizens of Israel, regardless of national or ethnic identity, which the ruling Kadima Party said would “undermine Israel’s identity as a Jewish state.”
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/12/israel-bans-arab-parties-from-election/

[mdaim2010]

islamway.com/gaza/gallery/
I think Israil do more than bomb. for 19 month it make restriction around Gaza people. they did not find food and medicine. this restriction act as military event.
please know that there 3 real main reasons for this war
1. there will be election at Israil and Eohood barak want to be elected. so he make that to be a here and all jewish elect him.
2. near also election in palasteine, Israil want hamas not to win like 2006 time. they think to destroy Hamas at all (as Hamas protect against Israilis occubation.
3. Israil choose that time as this is the last period in president Buch. Israil Know that Buch fully support Israil, but not know what will be the reaction of president Obama.

after there reasons what do you think, who is right and who is wrong.
Please check this link to see what Israil do with Gaza children and civilians.

Israil and USA have higher media so they claim that Israil protect itself from terrorism.
Do you think who is protect?
who is the real terrorist?

Please think well before answer.
again many of what said in many countries media affected by USA and Israil.
we have to know the truth from different sources.

[Astroboy]

islamway.com/gaza/gallery/
Do you think who is protect?
who is the real terrorist?
Please think well before answer.
again many of what said in many countries media affected by USA and Israil.
we have to know the truth from different sources.

Western media are also reporting "Israel Is Committing War Crimes.
Hamas's violations are no justification for Israel's actions"
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123154826952369919.html

Maybe Israel believes "Victory over Hamas will wipe out their War Crimes like what somebody did in the past". It is why Lieberman said that Hamas is Japan.

[JerseyBoy]

Jerusalem Post quotes what Israel Beiteinu chairman Avigdor Lieberman said:
Does this mean that Israel is going to drop A-Bomb to Gaza ?
What is this thread? This has set the new low...
Do you even know the size of the Gaza Strip?

PS. As I just made a comment on one of your other posts, if you are an English bandit trying to practice English (I have a hunch you are), there is an appropriate forum for that. There is no point starting odd-ball threads which won't develop into interesting discussions (unless you just want to bring up your post counts).

[Emoni]

He's been posting really absurd crap on the forums this week for some reason. I don't think he is trying to troll though or anything, I think he is just desperate for a conversation about literally ANYTHING. China taking over NK, nuking the Gaza strip, who knows what is next.

[Adulado]

qina taking over NK

I can assure you, will never happen.

[Emoni]

Gee, um thanks for your assurance Adulado.

[Astroboy]

Gee, um thanks for your assurance Adulado.

Please stay on the topic. :blush:

[caster51]

Pope rehabilitates holocaust-denying bishop
Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:25:45 GMT
.........................
Traditionalist bishop Richard Williamson, who says historical evidence "is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed" during World War II, was among one of the rehabilitated bishops.

"I believe there were no gas chambers and only up to 300,000 Jews perished in Nazi concentration camps, instead of six million," Williamson told Swedish television broadcast. .........................

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=83576&sectionid=351020606

:wave::wave:

Swedish city cancels Holocaust event
"To compare the Holocaust with Gaza is like comparing apples with pears," said Inga-Lill Sundström, one the organizers of the ceremony
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1232643759716&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Jewish Leaders Boycott German Holocaust Memorial Ceremony
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3979024,00.html

Elbaradei: Israel violated international law in Syria
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3664768,00.html

Israel hopes to colonize parts of Iraq as ‘Greater Israel’
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4301.shtml

Israel to face 'catastrophe' without Palestinian state, says Jimmy Carter
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1059141.html

Rightists in Israel predict dismal fate for Obama envoy's efforts
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1059534.htmlhttp://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1232292920382&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Lieberman gained most from war, surveys say

Spanish FM: We'll act to prevent war crimes probes against Israel
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1059964.html

[Hezam]

Israel has about 300 auromic bombs,what do you think they made them for ?
sooner or later they will throw some of them on the Arabic countries just like USA did to Japan.
I was watching video in youtube about Hiroshima and Nagazaki bombing,it was the worst crime all over the world !

But please dont compare the American people to the their Government.

[Fan]

Yes, I also believe the use of the atomic bomb was horrific, but if your going to say that, then I'll say Pearl Harbour was also dispicable, as were the Japanese POW camps. Don't try to state facts without looking at the whole picture and pretend Japan was innocent. Oh, and by the way, I'm not American and bitter. I don't side with either country.

[Hezam]

Pearl Harbour is nothing comparing to the Automic Bomb.but it was a mistake too.

Oh, and by the way, I'm not American and bitter. I don't side with either country.
The American people is the victim for the American Gov Acts.I like American people as my people here coz they are simple and nice.

[Chidoriashi]

Hezam> yes just like the atomic bomb is nothing compared to, 17 million dead chinese civilians at the hands of the IJA from 2nd Sino-Japanese war/WW2.

So if we are done with comparing whose acts were worse. Let me explain to you about the bomb. There are many ideas as to why the American Govt decide to drop the bomb.. flex muscle against the Soviets, test the bomb in a real situation, vengeance etc..

but the reason i think holds up the best (i do think the above reasons were probably part of it too) was to end the war quickly and decisively. The militarist warlords who had control of the Japanese govt at the time, were not looking to surrender unconditionally to the Americans. Some of them probably wanted to fight to the last Japanese. literally. Did you know that Japan was training its civilians, men and women between the ages of like 15-65 to be ready to fight and die against invading american soldiers? This was to be all out war! If the bombs had not been dropped Japan would have fought on and the resulting casualties would have been enormous. Way more than the bombs.

And even if Japan had surrendered by the end of the year, the continued firebombing and initial invasion of the mainland would have taken more lives than the bombs did. To me the bombs were the best choice of two evils. Continue to fight a costly and bloody war or end it quickly and decisively.

And i have researched all the stuff about the surrender and casualty estimates, and the evidence points to the bombs being a necessary evil. I used to feel like you about the bombs.. i thought what was the point? why were they necessary? how horrible! and then i actually read up all i could about the situation, and can state my opinion based on what i have learn, and not ignorance and emotional responses like i did before.

[Lisa11]

The information you have provided is really useful and great.
Lisa11

[Scotty P.]

Is that now the question?
No I don't believe that is likely at all. As careless as they are in respect to the civilian population, I do not think they would nuke and obliterate the gaza strip killing thousands and thousands of people just because.


Whats the point? the land they are fighting over would be contaminated and radio active.

That would be like the US nuking itself to destroy foriegn terrorists running around.

Not to mention the world opinion of such an act.

That would be like blowing your house up to evict some bad tenants!

[attaro]

Jerusalem Post quotes what Israel Beiteinu chairman Avigdor Lieberman said:
Does this mean that Israel is going to drop A-Bomb to Gaza ?

Avigdor Lieberman is a Nazi Dog.His history was a Leader of a bloody gang.

and about he Question , I don't think so. Gaza is small , even a small bomb would clear it out from any form of life but Israel people is near it also , would they survive the nuclear dust... I don't think they would make a risk