Looking For japanese Muslims

[MtoM]

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I know the population of Christians in Japan is very, very small (less than 1% I think). I would like to hear any experiences from Japanese Christians living in Japan.

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I think I want something harder
i want to talk to japanese muslims
if anyone know anything about Islam in Japan then tell me please

I really want to

[siberian_bear]

I'd get in touch with the mosque in tokyo. lots of info there :o)
a google search on the term "japanese muslims" yields a lot of relevant results.


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I know the population of Christians in Japan is very, very small (less than 1% I think). I would like to hear any experiences from Japanese Christians living in Japan.

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I think I want something harder
i want to talk to japanese muslims
if anyone know anything about Islam in Japan then tell me please

I really want to

[bakakadasa]

I am a muslim and live in japan, though I am not japanese

[Mike Cash]

According to one poster (http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140501&postcount=1)
there are 200,000 Japanese Muslims in Tokyo alone.

[belle74311]

I'm interested in Japanese Muslims myself.

I'm actually one of them, but i'm a mix...my mom is Japanese and my dad is Egyptian. Just want to see if i can find someone in common with me. But if you wanna know anything about japanese muslims you can message me! :wave:

[Toji]

I'm a Japanese Muslim, but I'm living in America.

[Ryota]

masha'allah there are quite a few japanese muslims arent there? recent posts show that the numbers have shot up 2 2million japanese muslims, good stuff eh? anyhoo im egyptian myself, dont know why im here, its just nice to see alot of japanese muslims, anyhoo ciao for now my chums!

[Hiroshi]

Japanese Muslims? Where? I'd love to chat with some.

[kirei_na_me]

This (http://www.islamonline.net/English/ramadan/ramadan_news/27.shtml) says there are 10,000 Japanese who are Muslims in the entire country of Japan.

This (http://www.islamonline.net/english/News/2004-07/16/article06.shtml) article states:

It's a familiar tale for Japan 's Muslims, who number about 100,000 – more than 90 percent of whom are not Japanese.

So, it doesn't look like it's 2 million, or even 200,000, Japanese Muslims in Japan.

[sketchytiger]

[edit: misunderstood the numbers~ :p ]

I'm a Muslim and I never knew there were at least 10,000 Muslims in Japan!! O_O That's more than where I live~~~~~~~ *kusu kusu!*

hehe xD

[SFSV]

I'm a Muslim and I never knew there were at least 200,000 Muslims in Japan!! O_O That's more than where I live~~~~~~~ *kusu kusu!*

hehe xD

Yeah I had the same reaction ! But this is good for us (and for them, actually) isn't it ?! :-)

SFSV

[Ryota]

god i would like to meet some japanese muslims, any japanese muslims contact me, koool, hehehe and is there like a lack of half egyptians half japanese belle74311 is one but getting in contact is impossible, anyway stay beautiful, ciao ciao

[al khattabi]

hi I'm a new user and hope that I'am going to learn more about japan!

[Ma Cherie]

Japanese muslims, Japanese christains, I don't care, really. I would be very happy, and of course surprised that a Japanese would have any kind of religious belief. Since their society isn't exactly religious orientated. :yeahh:

[SFSV]

Of course but there are... So let us dream, please ! :relief:

I'd like to meet a muslim Japanese, it would be so... waouw ! Anyway, I wish you welcome al_khattabi and enjoy ! (Belgium huh ?!)

SFSV

[ladjal abdesslem]

i love japonese people and i want make a rolationship with.

[Ikyoto]

In Japan the mind set (according to all the Japanese people I've known) is that you are FIRST Japanese. Your religion will come second to that. It is when western types of religious thought come in and tell their believers that the faith they follow is more important that troubles arise.

Personally I'd like people to see all people first AS people and everything else as something that is personal and should not be a consideration in how you interact with that person. Bu tthen again I also think people should be required to be held accountable for their actions and silly things like that. :-)

[SFSV]

Well you know Ikyoto I think that to be Japanese and to be religious (to believe) are two different things...

I'm not gonna judge someone because he doesn't believe but I'll have more affinities with a muslim than with an atheist because we have more in common. I mean, it's not a bad thing, it's normal ! Your nationality is a thing, your religion is another one (a private one).

I'm tired and I can't develop more, I'm sorry. Good evening people (yes it's 2.33 AM here) :)

SFSV

[lifutushi]

i never knew there are lots of muslims in japan since they don't get much coverage, unlike muslims in china, but surely that's a very nice fact. :)

[Warlock]

some of my relatives are christian,some are muslims and buddhist..but im an atheist.. but im curious to see the affect of religions such as islam affect the ways of a japanese concerning their unique ways.. how are they in japan?how do they think.. and how japanese react to them..?

[ringhelediel]

~~im a malaysian muslim but really...i have no idea the number is that much. hey warlock you're malaysian too? ^^;; anyhow, ive read that most of the converts are women who marry non-japanese men. hmmm curious as to how they go about their everyday life. sint it a bit hard to find halal food there?

[Yamatoblue]

Well actually I am a muslim too and I live in the US.
But I speak some Japanese and have always found it interesting.
There are Japanese muslims out there..believe it or not. Most are haafu(mom is Japanese convert, dad is from Pakistan or Morocco,etc).
Assalamu Aleikum! So good to see muslims on these forums.

[Yamatoblue]

I would like to speak with Japanese muslims who live in America, Japan or maybe an arab country like Saudiyyah

Mtom, may I ask are you a practicing Muslim? Is it hard in Saudi Arabia to get videogames? Is it allowed at all?
I am a practicing Muslim but I love Japanese culture and the Japanese language. I would like to marry a Japanese convert to Islam...insha'Allah.

[Farmad]

Salamun alaikum from Turkey to all Muslims in Japan!

I am very glad to met new brothers.

You have honest friends in Turkey, who makes dua for you!

[plastic]

Well, good luck...

[pipokun]

A big J-used car auction company, maybe in Chiba or somewhere, builds a place to practice and a halal restaurant in their site after increased buyers from muslim countries.
Car owners in Japan expect higher resell value.
The company expects more buyers.
The buyers expects profits in the countries they're from.

win-win-win situation, isn't it?
You may be a bit too sarcastic if you'd call this as just a biz.

[polar]

I would like to speak with Japanese muslims who live in America, Japan or maybe an arab country like Saudiyyah
Mtom, may I ask are you a practicing Muslim? Is it hard in Saudi Arabia to get videogames? Is it allowed at all?
I am a practicing Muslim but I love Japanese culture and the Japanese language. I would like to marry a Japanese convert to Islam...insha'Allah.

Hi Yamatoblue
I am a new member in the JF. I was searching for muslim people in Japan because I like Japanese, and I am interested in knowing more about them. However, since i live in Saudi Arabia, you can play video games of all kinds almost. Restrictions are limited to those which are prohibited by law and they are few.
I will be happy to provide you with more information about suadi arabia or about Islam.
wish you good luck.

[Mars Man]

Greetings from the Japan Alps, Polar san !!

Welcome to Jref forum. I hope you enjoy it and learn and share with all of us here !! See you 'round !! :wave:

[polar]

This (http://www.islamonline.net/English/ramadan/ramadan_news/27.shtml) says there are 10,000 Japanese who are Muslims in the entire country of Japan.
This (http://www.islamonline.net/english/News/2004-07/16/article06.shtml) article states:
So, it doesn't look like it's 2 million, or even 200,000, Japanese Muslims in Japan.

Hi kirei
The sources of the numbers are articles, I would assume that the most frequent number I had read was 200,000. However I am very interested in knowing the exact number from trusted sources. I am a muslim and I was in Tokyo last September. I like the Japanese and their way of respect to their work and other people.

[polar]

Greetings from the Japan Alps, Polar san !!
Welcome to Jref forum. I hope you enjoy it and learn and share with all of us here !! See you 'round !! :wave:

Thank you, and I am willing to participate inshaallah the best I can.

[Harvey]

I know a Japanese muslim, she is married to a Bangladeshi (bengali??) and has a Bangladesh restaraunt in Tsukaguchi in Hyogo-ken.

[eemaan]

Hi I'm half Jap and half Eng, I became Muslim 5 years ago alhamdulillah, Im trying to get my hands on a Japanese translation of Qur'an can anyone help?

[Harvey]

Are you in Japan? eemaan?

[Mikawa Ossan]

Hi I'm half Jap and half Eng, I became Muslim 5 years ago alhamdulillah, Im trying to get my hands on a Japanese translation of Qur'an can anyone help?
Hi eemaan! I hope this helps!

http://www2.dokidoki.ne.jp/racket/koran_frame.html

[eemaan]

no im in london england.

[pipokun]

http://www.isuramu.net/index.html
日本ムスリム情報事務所

[eemaan]

Thank you so much for the links mikawa san and pipokun
:cool:
the links are both fab, i pray my mum will have a look.
Also because i cant actually read kanji could someone let me know if there is a link to get a free japanese quran sent to me at either of the sites.
Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[pipokun]

Hiragana Megane (http://www.hiragana.jp/)
Just enter the URL above, and you can get furigana ruby of the site.

[nurizeko]

I agree with kirei, muslims make up a fraction of the population and most of them arent actually japanese.

[eemaan]

Lol, i should have said i can't understand japanese full stop! I can read hiragana and katakana but i wouldn't understand it even if i read it, but that's a fab useful tool pipokun, i was really impressed with it.
Thanks again all!
Oh and just to add, I'm new here, only a couple days old, so would love to hear from anyone about anything...
:-)

[Mars Man]

Greetings there too eemaan san !! I have been behind in greeting the newcomers to the forum this past week or so, and thus if I had missed you, I apologize.

In that you have chosen the Islamic belief system to adopt for the religious element of your being, I'd like to extend the invitation to drop by the Europe Forum, General Discussion area, 'Religion and Philosophy' fora, and share your thoughts, education, and experience with us in our discussion and 'almost' debate on the good and bad, truthful and false, historical and social elements of various belief systems, such as Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and so on.

We always make an effort to keep things as cool as possible there, and as broad as possible in opinions, and would be interested in learnin more about some of the factors of Islamic thought from those who practice such.

Welcome to the forum, and I hope to see you around later. Of course the forum is large, and there are many places to enjoy and post at. See you !!

[eemaan]

thanks mars man, i will check it out later on insha'Allah (God willing)
I must say these are the best forums i've ever been to. There is on the most part mutual respect from all members, and I've found it to be a rare comodity in life. I look forward to being an active member.
Like I said before I'd love to hear from people.

[Takaryo]

Eeman, you're Muslim? Well, I'm not a muslim. But my friends are so, I preety much understand what are those Arabic words are. ^^ As fas as my 5 watt brain can go, there aren't many muslims in Japan, are there?

[eemaan]

Hi Takaryo, well that's what I'm trying to find out!
I know there are lot's of mosques in Japan and halal butchers and restaurants, I looked them up on Islamicfinder.com. I've found a few on the jref penpals, some appear to be japanese converts and others born Muslim who are living in Japan.
Check it out for yourself if you're interested.
:-)

[Silverbackman]

http://www.progressiveportal.org/osaka/japan_photos_2002-03/2002-03-17/muslim-activist.jpg
http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/ahr/109.4/images/esenbel_fig04b.jpg

It is so strange seeing Japanese in those Arab headpeices.

[eemaan]

Silver, Love those pics, where did you get them? Yes it is quite unusual, bizarre even! Who's the lady at the top?

[sakina]

salam alaykoum,

those pictures are wonderful, arabian outfits fit them well.

eeman do you speak japanese and did you ever go to Japan ? I think you can have a free japanese version of Qur'an (paper version) if you contact a saudi embassy or a dawa organisation.

I wonder how japanese muslims deal with the bowing tradition as it is not permited in Islam.

Sorry for my bad english :)

[bossel]

Silver, Love those pics, where did you get them? Yes it is quite unusual, bizarre even! Who's the lady at the top?
From here (http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/ahr/109.4/esenbel.html). BTW, Silverbackman, there is something like a copyright. You need to at least give the source if you post this stuff.

The woman is from here:
http://www.progressiveportal.org/osaka/japan_photos_2002-03/2002-03-17/

[eemaan]

Thanks bossel, very kind of you, so, you see you have a picture of Spock,are you a Trekkie? Is space more your thing than religion, and one last question, I hope you don't mind, since you're an atheist, why do you spend so much time and effort trying to refute Islam? Not in a bad way, but like, is it because you think we're wasting our time and you want to save us 'wasting our lives' or just because? Cos I only came to bring a message, and see if anyone would be receptive and accept, not to belittle or argue, cos for me I believe I have truth (Yes I know you disagree!) but I feel it is so important that I have to share it with people, otherwise I'd feel selfish, like I'd won the lottery and not shared my winnings...Just wondered.
Sakina, no I can't speak Japanese unfortunately, I'll PM you later insha'Allah.

[bossel]

Yeah, I'm definitely more in favour of space exploration than of promoting religion (but not a real trekkie, Spock was just some kind of idol when I was a kid). I'm not trying to refute Islam (or any other religion) as such. If you want to believe, then be it. But if I smell propaganda or proselytising efforts that may lead to an averse reaction, esp. when someone comes up with alleged historical facts.

But whether I react obviously also depends on the time I have at hand & how frustrated I am about my programming efforts. It also depends on how often I had the very same discussion already (& how long the last one is ago). Because, it gets boring after a while, if you have to refute the very same arguments (often copied from the very same websites) over & over again.

Well, we shouldn't disturb this discussion too much. If you have more questions, you could PM me, or open a new thread on "why atheists try to refute [insert favourite religion here]".

[Ewok85]

When you can tell me why you don't beleive in other Gods you'll understand why I don't beleive in yours ;)

[sakina]

Here is a web site made by a japanese muslim http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~racket/e_index.htm
too bad I can't read japanese :(

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

I got married in Fukuoka / Japan in July 7th, 2005 by a Japanese Imam. I have still connection with him. I will try to inquire through him about the Muslim population in Japan.

I visited and met the people in Tokyo Jami (mosque) too. But, I didn't get their contact details.

[Yamatoblue]

Hi Yamatoblue
I am a new member in the JF. I was searching for muslim people in Japan because I like Japanese, and I am interested in knowing more about them. However, since i live in Saudi Arabia, you can play video games of all kinds almost. Restrictions are limited to those which are prohibited by law and they are few.
I will be happy to provide you with more information about suadi arabia or about Islam.
wish you good luck.
俺はムスリムなんですよ！I'm muslim. But I was just wondering about Saudi Arabia and videogames...

I recently became friends with a Pakistani guy whose parents moved to Japan when he was one month old. He lives in Yamanashi-ken and he actually speaks only japanese and urdu-so I speak in japanese with him-it's very strange because he's not Japanese but he seems like one.

[me109]

Konnichiwa,
dont forget; we have a fight!
Gamdatte Kudasai.

[dangdaga]

Well, good luck.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2250/60158873350585tu.jpg

[claralin]

hi im 24/female from malaysia. Im half Chinese/half Malay.
im interested in meeting japanese muslims. i would be happy to meet japanese muslim man. :)

[yukio_michael]

I recently became friends with a Pakistani guy whose parents moved to Japan when he was one month old. He lives in Yamanashi-ken and he actually speaks only japanese and urdu-so I speak in japanese with him-it's very strange because he's not Japanese but he seems like one.As long as we keep judging people on the race of their parents, I suppose things like this will always seem strange.

[Cranshaw]

Hello! I'm a Japanese-American Muslim (my father was a Nissei and my mother is from Japan), and I'm also very interested in finding other Japanese Muslims! Um...this is my first post...and I don't know what else to say...

[Saba]

I know there are not many Japanese Muslims in Japan but
why dont you try contacting the Islamic Centre Japan. Maybe they can help you.

Good luck

[Cranshaw]

Thank you for the advice! I'll try contacting them!

[PureEgypt]

Hello all , i'd like to talk to muslims live in japan and i'd like to know more about people and life there since i was young i was like to read about the culture there and when i grow up i worked with japanese but through internet , and i have amercain freind work as a teacher of English there and he talk to me about people and life there but i really want to build my own opinion so inshallah i will visit it someday :)

by the way it's my 1st time here , salam 4 now
Hoyda

[eemaan]

Salam all, good to hear from new people on here!
Welcome to those of you who are new, and hey to those of you oldies (lol)
I hop more people will keep posting here.
See you round!

[Kagemusha]

Assalaamualaykum
Just joined, interested to in contact with japanese muslims.
Eemaan; it would be interesting to ask you some questions especially since you're in London too.
You are all encouraged to contact me and i hope to meet some really cool and interesting people here.

[Finka]

Allou.. I am a new member..
I am Indonesian female.
Since 1997, I work at Ministry of Forestry in Jakarta.
Everything about Japan is so interesting for me.
I had been in Tokyo for 3 times: 2002, 2003 and 2006 (April).
Well, how to contact Japanese moslem in Japan? I am really want to know them. Or, are there japanese muslims contact me? Thanks much for the information. Domo arigato gozaimasu..

[Emy Hashim]

Assalamualaikum (peace upon you) and good day to friends out there! Actually I would like to make friends with all Japanese muslims either male or female, particularly for those who are living in Japan now. I hope our friendship will last forever, insya Allah. For those interested, you can visit my page in http://www.friendster.com and before I forgot, my email address in emy_shinoda@yahoo.com. All your cooperation is appreciated. Last word, please receive my warmest UKHWAH regards...:-)

[uloocn]

hi im 24/female from malaysia. Im half Chinese/half Malay.
im interested in meeting japanese muslims. i would be happy to meet japanese muslim man. :)
my email is claralin88@yahoo.com
visit me on www.friendster.com
thanks
clara

Since you are half Chinese, then how can you become a muslim?
I am curious.

[Tej]

Assalamu 'alaikum!

hiya, hajimemashite y'all, i'm tejo and i'm fully-proud-to-be-Muslim-and-Indonesian. Alhamdulillah and Allahu Akbar! Anyway, i haven't had any kind of interaction with any japanese muslim, and i'd like to have one, 'coz i'm so interested in japan, everything from nihon interest me, so, if there are any japanese muslim who wants to get crunk wit me, y'all welcome (^o^)/ and even those who aren't japanese are also welcome, it's my first so yeah...

Wa'alaikum Salam! peace...

[Yamatoblue]

Since you are half Chinese, then how can you become a muslim?
I am curious.
Anyone can be a muslim. In fact, in China there are about 20 million muslims...I'm sure you knew this. They also have their own cuisine...which looks really delicious.

[nurizeko]

I speak in japanese with him-it's very strange because he's not Japanese but he seems like one.

Japaneseness isnt an actual racial group, that would make all of east asian Japanese.

Just Like a Muslim of Middle-eastern decent can be born/move to the UK early in life and grow up here and be british.

[Mycernius]

Since you are half Chinese, then how can you become a muslim?
I am curious.
You could be born into a muslim family or convert. You don't have to be a specific nationality to be a muslim. Cat Stevens is English and he converted and became Yusaf Islam; Cassius Clay is American converted and became Muhammad Ali. They both retain their nationality. It works for anyone. William Shatner converted to Judaism, but he is still Canadian.

[uloocn]

Anyone can be a muslim. In fact, in China there are about 20 million muslims...I'm sure you knew this. They also have their own cuisine...which looks really delicious.

"Anyone can be a muslim" is said by muslims, why don't they say "Any Muslim can be a non-muslim"? Islam is full of fallacy and culture-aggression.
It is true that China has tiny muslims who are the descendants of persian or Turki, none of them is Han-Chinese.

So I wonder how can clara be a muslim because I consider Chinese is the most difficult people to assimilate even than Jews.

[uloocn]

You could be born into a muslim family or convert. You don't have to be a specific nationality to be a muslim. Cat Stevens is English and he converted and became Yusaf Islam; Cassius Clay is American converted and became Muhammad Ali. They both retain their nationality. It works for anyone. William Shatner converted to Judaism, but he is still Canadian.
Are you a muslim? Do you know a little about Islam?
I don't care English, American,Canadian or any other people convert to muslim because I respect muslim and Islam, but I opppose Chinese people convert to muslim.
reason:
1)Islam is full of fallacy.muslim always say "Anyone can be a muslim" but never say "Any Muslim can be a non-muslim", that words, Islam is like a boat which is easy to enter in but difficult to come out for you and your descendants.
2)Islam is full of culture-aggression. Muslim always say they are the most excellence people in the universe and a true muslim must discard all your former nationalities and become a "new" guy with "new" habits. maybe you can't discard your former nationalities clearly but how could your sons and your grandsons?
3)All muslims are brothers. This means an English,American or Canadian could be a brother of Arabs. Can I ask a muslim who is your more conversant brethren between a foreign muslim and a native non-muslim?
I don't oppose Islam indeed, Islam has many advantages and we should learn from, but learning from you doesn't imply I must become a muslim.

[uloocn]

子曰：君子和而不同，小人同而不和
Translation: Confucius said in 3000 years ago:The superior man agrees with others without being an echo; The mean man echoes without being in agreement.'

[Mycernius]

Are you a muslim? Do you know a little about Islam?
Ha, ha, ha, me a muslim. You have never read any of my other posts or threads on religion. No, I am not, I'm an atheist, but I do know a 'little' about Islam
I don't care English, American,Canadian or any other people convert to muslim because I respect muslim and Islam, but I opppose Chinese people convert to muslim.
reason:
1)Islam is full of fallacy.muslim always say "Anyone can be a muslim" but never say "Any Muslim can be a non-muslim",
Any religion says this. not just Islam. Christian missionaries will go around saying "you too can know the love of Jesus". Don't be so naive.
Islam is like a boat which is easy to enter in but difficult to come out for you and your descendants. Anyone can leave any religion. The followers don't like it because to them it is an insult on their beliefs and they genuienly feel that the person leaving is committing their soul to eternal damnation. Again this can apply to any religion, especially the Judeo-christian religions. You want religions that are really difficult to leave look at the modern cults such as Jehovah Witnesses, Moonies and Scientology.
2)Islam is full of culture-aggression. Muslim always say they are the most excellence people in the universe and a true muslim must discard all your former nationalities and become a "new" guy with "new" habits. maybe you can't discard your former nationalities clearly but how could your sons and your grandsons?
Incorrect. The idea that Islam is against cultures in a fairly new development within Islam, and then in only some branches. It is not one of it founders original teachings. When Islam first came to the fore and spread, other religions had a lot more freedom within its boundaries than within a Christain led country. The Jews in Spain lived in peace for almost 800 years when it was held by the Muslims. When the Muslims were eventually driven out of Spain by the Catholics the Jews were forced to convert to Christainity or leave the country. Those that didn't were killed.
3)All muslims are brothers. This means an English,American or Canadian could be a brother of Arabs. Can I ask a muslim who is your more conversant brethren between a foreign muslim and a native non-muslim?
I don't oppose Islam indeed, Islam has many advantages and we should learn from, but learning from you doesn't imply I must become a muslim.
"All Christian are brothers", a phrase used constantly by Christians. Your aguments against Chinese converting to Islam sounds it is more fueled by nationalism rather than a set of realistic arguments. All arguments you have used can be said of any nationality. In Europe it can be said we are a Christian people, it is an offense to our God that people convert to Islam. It still doesn't stop people. Coversion to a religion has nothing to do with nationality or race. Conversion is based on what a person reads and decides to believe in. The choice is personal.
子曰：君子和而不同，小人同而不和
Translation: Confucius said in 3000 years ago:The superior man agrees with others without being an echo; The mean man echoes without being in agreement.'
Little difficult as the man was born only 2500 years ago.
K'ung Fu Tzu (commonly pronounced Confucius in English) was born in 551 BCE in the state of Lu (modern day Shantung Province). He lived during the Chou dynasty, an era known for its moral laxity. Later in life, he wandered through many states of China, giving advice to their rulers. He accumulated a small band of students during this time. The last years of his life were spent back in Lu, where he devoted himself to teaching.

[Dena81]

I'm interested in Japanese Muslims myself.
I'm actually one of them, but i'm a mix...my mom is Japanese and my dad is Egyptian. Just want to see if i can find someone in common with me. But if you wanna know anything about japanese muslims you can message me! :wave:


Now that's an interesting mix! I'm also curious about japanese Muslims. I'm full egyptian, born and raised in America but I am completely in love with Japan and just would like to know of those living there that are muslim :cool:

[Dena81]

I'm glad someone said something about his comments. Really though, you're confusing religion with ethnicity. Any ethnicity can be muslim, christian, buddhist, satanist, whatever the heck you want but with that EVERY and I mean EVERY religion will of course look at you like an outsider if you leave it. It's not different for any religion. So, why you're picking on Islam is beyond me since it's the same with every religion and believe me I have my exposure to religions.

Ha, ha, ha, me a muslim. You have never read any of my other posts or threads on religion. No, I am not, I'm an atheist, but I do know a 'little' about Islam
Any religion says this. not just Islam. Christian missionaries will go around saying "you too can know the love of Jesus". Don't be so naive.
Anyone can leave any religion. The followers don't like it because to them it is an insult on their beliefs and they genuienly feel that the person leaving is committing their soul to eternal damnation. Again this can apply to any religion, especially the Judeo-christian religions. You want religions that are really difficult to leave look at the modern cults such as Jehovah Witnesses, Moonies and Scientology.
Incorrect. The idea that Islam is against cultures in a fairly new development within Islam, and then in only some branches. It is not one of it founders original teachings. When Islam first came to the fore and spread, other religions had a lot more freedom within its boundaries than within a Christain led country. The Jews in Spain lived in peace for almost 800 years when it was held by the Muslims. When the Muslims were eventually driven out of Spain by the Catholics the Jews were forced to convert to Christainity or leave the country. Those that didn't were killed.
"All Christian are brothers", a phrase used constantly by Christians. Your aguments against Chinese converting to Islam sounds it is more fueled by nationalism rather than a set of realistic arguments. All arguments you have used can be said of any nationality. In Europe it can be said we are a Christian people, it is an offense to our God that people convert to Islam. It still doesn't stop people. Coversion to a religion has nothing to do with nationality or race. Conversion is based on what a person reads and decides to believe in. The choice is personal.
Little difficult as the man was born only 2500 years ago.

[uloocn]

QUOTE=Mycernius;374919]Any religion says this. not just Islam.[/QUOTE]
It is wrong. Buddhism never say so, if a buddhist do something wrong, he will be denied as a monk even he say himself a buddhist aloudly.

Anyone can leave any religion. The followers don't like it because to them it is an insult on their beliefs and they genuienly feel that the person leaving is committing their soul to eternal damnation. Again this can apply to any religion, especially the Judeo-christian religions. You want religions that are really difficult to leave look at the modern cults such as Jehovah Witnesses, Moonies and Scientology.
This is the typical though and behaviors with monotheism. Buddhism,Taoism,Hinduism,Shintoism don't think so.

Conversion is based on what a person reads and decides to believe in. The choice is personal.
Little difficult as the man was born only 2500 years ago.
"Conversion is based on what a person" maybe true. but how the muslims do with non-muslims? high-tax? force-invadation? Why muslima want to put in force Islamic law to all people not just to himself?
As far as Confucius, you are right,I have made a mistake.

[farz20]

Hi there,

My name is Farzana. I'm not a japanese but a bengali muslim living in the UK.

I didn't know that there are japanese muslims around the world. I know more about chinese muslims as they are exposed more.

I would like to talk to japanese muslims if they are willing to talk to me and get to know more about them.

[Mars Man]

Hi there Farzana san !! Welcome to Jref. It migh be a good thing to make an introduction in the member's Introduction area. I hope you join in with us and have a great time sharing and learning with us all !

Perhaps some who are Muslem will answer to you soon enough--although I am fairly certain that there are no Japanese nationals on the forum who are Muslem. . . just some who live in other countries, or at least one lady I know of who is from a mixed marriage, living in UK, and who is a practicing Muslem.

I hope to talk to you later !! MM

[madyf]

hi there,

i`m malaysian muslim..just came to japan about last 5 month..
will stay here about 3 and a half year i think..

it not so hard to live in japan..all halal meat& chicken can order by internet
and it will reach to your house..

for the big city like osaka tokyo ,,u can get halal food at imported store..

ramadhan will coming soon..this is my 1st ramadhan here..

[Gaijin4Life]

Hey everyone just wanted to shout out a hello in this post. Im muslim livin in Japan originally from UAE. Madyf, good luck bro it will be a tough month. 1st ramadan here for me 2.

[saint]

Hi everybody, Hajimemashite I’m Kuwaiti Muslim student living in Japan from many years ago. This is my first “post”, and I hope you enjoy it.
The first Muslim Japanese ever known are Mitsutaro Takaoka who converted to Islam in 1909 and took the name Omar Yamaoka.....and the Kobe Mosque built in 1935 (which is the only remaining mosque in Japan nowadays) and the Tokyo Mosque built in 1938.
Ref.
http://members.tripod.com/worldupdates/islamintheworld/id28.htm[/U]
And there are over than 20 Mosques, and 14 Islamic organizations in japan.
Ref.
http://islam3.hp.infoseek.co.jp/benri/e_benriindex.htm
So, if we look at these mosques and organizations homepages. we will know that half of them controlled by 100% Japanese Muslims. and the other half are organized by foreigners.
But the question is “why our friend MtoM really want to talk to Japanese Muslims??”
In my opinion, he want something harder !as he said since 2003…. A word to the wise is enough.((enna allabeba bel esharati aflame))
:ramen:

[nurizeko]

Interesting random bump, but in Britain, apparently 92% of the population is white.

Now, making the assupmtion not even a full percentage point of these are of Muslim faith, and alot fo British immigrants who have Muslim roots may have become lax in their observance or given it up entirely, Britain is still considored to have a strong Muslim presence.

Now considoring the statistics in Japan, the number of Japanese muslims must be so small as to make the prospect of running into one pretty slim.

[Mars Man]

Hi everybody, Hajimemashite I’m Kuwaiti Muslim student living in Japan from many years ago. This is my first “post”, and I hope you enjoy it.

Hello there saint san !! Welcome to Jref, the world wide family with strings attached to Japan somehow. I hope you stick around and enjoy yourself here on the forum. . .there are plenty of things to talk about.

But the question is “why our friend MtoM really want to talk to Japanese Muslims??”
In my opinion, he want something harder !as he said since 2003…. A word to the wise is enough.((enna allabeba bel esharati aflame))
:ramen:

I think you'll find that the original poster has long since been gone...no word at all from that person, so who knows? There was some exchange by him, then nothing. I hope to talk to you later !! :wave:

ps. an introduction of yourself in the Members' Lounge, on the Introduce yourself sub-fora, might be a good idea...then, more folks can meet you.

[Lance]

Anyway, I guess that's true about being Japanese. Cultures clash sometimes. I understand this, but what about the other religions? Not that I wanted to say that the SDA religion was the only true religion. We consider ourselves mainly Christians first and foremost, not SDAs. The Muslim community is vast as well, but with what was said to be only a few number I suppose there are much fewer SDAs.
Thanks for the input about Muslims. So what else about SDAs?

[sketchytiger]

Since you are half Chinese, then how can you become a muslim?
I am curious.

A Muslim is a person who's religion is Islam. ^__^

Same as being a Buddist, Shintoist, Catholic, etc. ^__^ There is one region that has Chinese Muslims. Being Chinese is the same as being African. Race doesn't matter, and religion too. We're all the same. :p

[Gaijin4Life]

ummm just for some people's info.. there are more Muslims in China than in Saudi Arabia

[Mycernius]

That doesn't really surprise me. A lot of people in China (1,313,973,713), not so many in Saudi Arabia (27,019,731)

[Yamatoblue]

A Muslim is a person who's religion is Islam. ^__^
Same as being a Buddist, Shintoist, Catholic, etc. ^__^ There is one region that has Chinese Muslims. Being Chinese is the same as being African. Race doesn't matter, and religion too. We're all the same. :p
salaam aleikum.
yoroshiku onegaishimasu.

Ulcoon:イスラム教についてよく分かりませんか？そう� ﾝたいですね。
で、何でよく分からないことについて話してた？静かに したほうがいい。:souka:

[fieka]

Hi everyone


My name is Shafieka ,I'm a South African Muslim.I am very interested in corresponding to any Muslims all over the world. :-) Learning about their lives in various countries.The challenges they face if any.

I live in Cape Town ,the Muslim population in this city is quite substantial.I look forward your responses

[uloocn]

salaam aleikum.
yoroshiku onegaishimasu.
Ulcoon:イスラム教についてよく分かりませんか？そう� ﾝたいですね。
で、何でよく分からないことについて話してた？静かに したほうがいい。:souka:
Yamatoblue,我看不懂你的日文啊。这里是英文论坛吧？

A Muslim is a person who's religion is Islam. ^__^
Same as being a Buddist, Shintoist, Catholic, etc. ^__^ There is one region that has Chinese Muslims. Being Chinese is the same as being African. Race doesn't matter, and religion too. We're all the same. :p
Confucius said in 32500 years ago:The superior man agrees with others without being an echo; The mean man echoes without being in agreement.

[xFiizzed]

at least this solves my problem..didnt know there was a mosque in tokyo..hehe..At least the next time i go to japan, tokyo..ill have no problem knowing which direction the kiblat is when about to go for prayers...Alhamdullilah! Knowing that there are fellow Muslims in Japan.good to know. Really hoping to meet some Muslims living in japan though = \ A muslim is still a muslim..no matter which country their living in..Im interested in knowing how they cope with life over there in japan..In terms of buying food; ingredients that are halal.The onli halal japanese brand i know is MEiji o.0 . Plus, i wonder if u will be stared at if u where a scarf, err i dunno whats the word in english..but its this cloth muslim women wear to cover the head and neck except the face.Insya'allah, Really looking forward to meet Muslims living in Japan! Assalamualaikum warohmatullah hiwabarokatuh
.. oh yeah..btw im new! ^^ Namira desu,yoroshiku

[Yamatoblue]

XFizzed:Salaam Aleikum.
I didn't know Meiji brand is halal...I don't think any brand of food is certified as halal. But Masha'Allah, you live in Malaysia, you guys have halal Japanese restaurants there,that's a dream for me.
As far as buying food...I eat Japanese food,but I don't live in Japan. Most important thing is checking the ingredients in the back of the product. A lot of noodle dishes contain fish extract, which we can eat insha'Allah,but some noodles for example, contain pork fat,which we don't eat.
Also, in Japan you can get fresh fish, but not the marinated kind,which many times contains sake (rice wine).
Wasalaam.http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~racket/ this site is in Japanese, but run by a Japanese Muslim. It has addresses of masajids in Japan, their programs,etc.

[xFiizzed]

Yamatoblue Waalaikumsalam..btw, i live in Singapore..not malaysia..just below malaysia..Anywyaz, not ALL the restaurants in S'pore is halal.I juz wished i could eat japanese food.Halal ones.Too bad no halal japanese restaurants in s'pore..oh on second thought there is..Ramen Ten..but its soo far!!! -.- have to take like more than half an hour trip just to go there...

[okidocman]

Salam to all of you!

I just discovered this forum wich is very interesting !

Am from France and i used to live in Tokyo!

I married a Japanese women who's Muslim alhamdoulilah !

We are now living in Paris and we met some other Japanese muslim over here!

If some of you (women) need some advice or information i could let my wife answer! ok


Salam

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

hi there,

i`m malaysian muslim..just came to japan about last 5 month..
will stay here about 3 and a half year i think..

it not so hard to live in japan..all halal meat& chicken can order by internet
and it will reach to your house..

for the big city like osaka tokyo ,,u can get halal food at imported store..

ramadhan will coming soon..this is my 1st ramadhan here..
Hi madyf,

Which city do you live in Japan?

I got married to a Malay lady in Fukuoka two years ago.

Regards,

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

Hi everybody, Hajimemashite I’m Kuwaiti Muslim student living in Japan from many years ago. This is my first “post”, and I hope you enjoy it.
:ramen:
Jazakallahu khairan.
Thanks for those info.
Have you ever heard of Sheikh Abdurrasheed Ibrahim Efendi there?
I read his book about "Islamic World and Japan" two volumes.
Regards,

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

salaam aleikum.
yoroshiku onegaishimasu.
Ulcoon:イスラム教についてよく分かりませんか？そう� ﾝたいですね。
で、何でよく分からないことについて話してた？静かに したほうがいい。:souka:
Hi Yamatoblue

Ogenki desu ka?

[ZeroS]

Assalamualaykum!
Konichiwa mina san!

Hey there, I'm from South Africa and was actually drawn to this forum because I intend to visit Japan in August.

I hope to get along with all of you here and learn what I need to, to get into Nihon.

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

First of all, I advice you to learn some basic words and sentences. Cos, it is really difficult to communicate with Japanese with other languages including English. But still you will like their politeness and kindness.

Good luck from now! :cool:

[ZeroS]

Actually I know a bit. Not enough to communicate but enough to spur me to study the language. All the anime watching pays off eh?

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

That is better. In fact, I had got difficulties from airport in language (communicating). The good thing, my spouse speaks Japanese fluently. It helped me a lot.

But I appreciate them. Cos, the second language, specially English, French, Spanish etc..., is the sign of colonizing. Japan has escaped from it. :-)

[ZeroS]

Yeah so I'm gonna learn the language. Know any good links? How about any contacts in Japan?

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

I will try to help you with links. At least the ones I follow...

Regarding addresses, I must tell you sorry, unfortunately... Try to enjoy your jorney... Always remember that Japan -specailly Tokyo- is indeed is expensive..

Regards,

[ZeroS]

So it's true that living in Japan is expensive. But what about all those budget faclities?
I was hoping to get in contact with some of the imams that side and discuss the situation of muslims, etc.

[Dervaish]

Hello all: I have just joined this wonderful forum and would like to contribute in the near future. Any Muslims from Hisrohima here? Thanks.

[ZeroS]

Salaams! Welcome to the forum.

Are you from Japan?

[Dervaish]

Walaikum Assalam ZeroS. Thank you for the welcome. I live in Hiroshima, not Japanese but married to one.

[ZeroS]

Oh wonderful since I'm thinking of visiting Japan.

So tell me about the masjids and muslims locals in your area.

[Dervaish]

ZeroS: I am new, just arrived in this city (Hiroshima) and that is why I asked people in this forum about things Islamic in Hiroshima. In fact, right now I am back in Canada (where I am originally from) but going back to Hiroshima in about 10 days.

[ZeroS]

Oh I see. I was hoping someone here could give me info about eh muslim locals of different areas since I wanna visit all the masjids, etc.

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

I have a friend who made my nikah there, when I got married in Fukuoka. I can pass you his email address, in case you wish.

[ZeroS]

I have a friend who made my nikah there, when I got married in Fukuoka. I can pass you his email address, in case you wish.

My good man. That is excellent.

Please do PM me his email address. Jazakallahu Khair!

[Saifullah Samurai]

Oh I see. I was hoping someone here could give me info about eh muslim locals of different areas since I wanna visit all the masjids, etc.

This website shows some pictures with addresses of mosques around Tokyo and other parts of Japan
http://park2.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/tuics/mosques.htm

[ZeroS]

This website shows some pictures with addresses of mosques around Tokyo and other parts of Japan
http://park2.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/tuics/mosques.htm

Shukran. I've come across that site but I don't think I've managed to salvage a workable email from there.

Thanks anyway. :-)

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

Dear brother,

I have sent the email I mentioned into your PM. I hope it will work and help.

Good luck to you from now on!

[ZeroS]

Shukran Jazeelan brother!!!

[Ebu Huzeyfe]

Afwan. Welcome any time.

[Mikawa Ossan]

No offense, guys, but you can say thank you via PM. (It's distracting to those trying to follow the thread.)

[sutira]

hallo...moshi moshi....koniciwa.....?
i newbie here....
"mohon bimbingannya"

[ZeroS]

Konichiwa!

Wassalaam.
Welcome to the forums.

[ororo_munroe]

assalamualaikum

newbie here too
yoroshiku onegaishimasu

[sketchytiger]

salaam aleikum.
yoroshiku onegaishimasu.
Ulcoon:イスラム教についてよく分かりませんか？そう� ﾝたいですね。
で、何でよく分からないことについて話してた？静かに したほうがいい。:souka:


Yamatoblueさん、
「静かにしたほうがいい」って分かりません。:relief: 　それは私にですか。

[Yon]

I'm shocked!!!
i have never thought that there are japanese muslims!!!
coz i am muslim and i am from turkish origin and want to go to nihon 1 day too...and wants to marry a japanese women...coz japanese people are so kind and resprectable...but before i go to nihon i want to search also japanese friends...mochiron not only muslim friend demo all religion..you know what i don't care about religion it is just i want some friends outta there who will wait for me
who will add me?

[sketchytiger]

I'm shocked!!!
i have never thought that there are japanese muslims!!!
coz i am muslim and i am from turkish origin and want to go to nihon 1 day too...and wants to marry a japanese women...coz japanese people are so kind and resprectable...but before i go to nihon i want to search also japanese friends...mochiron not only muslim friend demo all religion..you know what i don't care about religion it is just i want some friends outta there who will wait for me
who will add me? my email is yusufdragon A hotmail (dot) com

I'm sorry to tell you this but the reason why Japanese people are respectful is because we're foreigners and they don't treat us like citizens. ^^;;; If you were a full-blood Japanese citizen, they treat you like a normal person. :relief: I have full-blooded Japanese friends, and one of them, who lived here for few years, said that they don't treat respectfully towards other citizens locally. :blush:

[Yon]

I'm sorry to tell you this but the reason why Japanese people are respectful is because we're foreigners and they don't treat us like citizens. ^^;;; If you were a full-blood Japanese citizen, they treat you like a normal person. :relief: I have full-blooded Japanese friends, and one of them, who lived here for few years, said that they don't treat respectfully towards other citizens locally. :blush:

hahaha....well i will go to nihon one day to live there...and why i love japan and the people there is their overwhelming respect and kindness...:(:bluush: like you said...

[nicolaaa]

wow it's so nice to finally see a forum involving Islam without a bunch of misunderstood and misjudged quotes from the Koran being posted in attack mode! and i never imagined that there would be so many Japanese muslims, that's awesome! I wish there'd be a documentary about them and other "unexpectedly" Muslim people around the world, maybe people wouldn't stereotype so much about Muslims. it's about time....!

[hokutonoken]

Salaam everyone,

はじめまして。 my name is zoheib and im british. I went to japan on a working holiday for my gap year after high school. i taught english in tokyo for half a year. im now studying medicine at the university of leeds. im a member of the luu japanese society at university as well as being the general secretary of the islamic society. im going back to japan for 2 weeks inshallah just before going back to university in mid-september.

any questions on muslim life in japan, i will try and answer the best i can, especially related to tokyo.

yoroshiku!

ぞへいぶ

[izzie]

Wow,the title of this thread relly gets me..
It's good to find a Muslim japanese as a friend!
:cool:

[Harun]

w00t cool^ I am Muslim - only 15, but would love to visit Japan - have plans of going next summer

[mdaim2010]

I am muslim live in kobe, Japan. Also I want to talk to japanese muslims
if anyone know anything about Islam in Japan then tell me please.

[izzie]

mdaim2010:I might not be a Japanese Muslim,but it's cool dat you're one of them^^

[Mars Man]

Actually, I do have information that mdaim2010 is not actually a Japanese national, but does live in Japan at the moment. Out of curiosity, though, izzie san, are you a practicing Muslem?

[izzie]

@Mars Man: Souka.Thanks for informing me.Yes,I'm a Muslim^^
And you are too?

[Mars Man]

Actually, I am a non-theist agnostic...but have studied a fair amount of religious belief-system doctrine. I am, I will admit, weak in the area of Islam.

I would still feel that there would be a difference between a 'practicing' Muslem and a 'nominal' Muslem, however.

Anyway, take care, enjoy, and be at peace !! MM

[izzie]

@Mars man:A lotta pople got the wrong meaning of what Islam really is,and it's really sad.I hope u got the right one^^ I'm not that good when it comes to religious things(even sadder).Oh,and yes,u r rite,there is a difference^^
Thanks a lot!

[DarkSharingan]

Salam everyone, Iam muslim too but live in Canada. Love Japanese stuff and hope to go there someday. Seeing all of the other brothers makes me happy:cool:

[mdaim2010]

In Fact, Islam is a relegion that involve many rules and manners designed by Allah (The Creator). These rules and manners are absolutely true, because Allah create all creatures including human being and He is the most one know the right and useful for human and that wrong and unuseful for man. these rules and mannars are all present in holly quran, the holly book from Allah to his prophit Mohammad. on another hand, Muslem should opey the orders and rules desgined by Allah. In fact not all muslims do that, like any nation rules not all people opey the rules. So, muslims may not appear in islamic picture needed by Allah. In these cases many non-muslims think that islam is not good, but in fact, Islam is the god relegion and absolutely true, but not all muslims appear in the well needed islamic manners.

[mdaim2010]

noorallahproductions.com/dawaah_in_japan

good link for japanese muslims and non muslims want to know about Islam. 6 japanese video about islam. (search in web for that link) just write noorallahproductions.com/dawaah_in_japan

[mdaim2010]

mdaim2010:I might not be a Japanese Muslim,but it's cool dat you're one of them^^
I am not understand that you mean?

[izzie]

@mdaim: Nevermind,forget what I said^^

[ahmed88]

I'm interested in Japanese Muslims myself.
I'm actually one of them, but i'm a mix...my mom is Japanese and my dad is Egyptian. Just want to see if i can find someone in common with me. But if you wanna know anything about japanese muslims you can message me! :wave:

i'am muslim like you bellee74311 and half egyptian :wave:

I'm interested in Japanese Muslims myself.

I'm actually one of them, but i'm a mix...my mom is Japanese and my dad is Egyptian. Just want to see if i can find someone in common with me. But if you wanna know anything about japanese muslims you can message me! :wave:
i'm like u i'am half egyptian!!!!half japanese

[Mars Man]

Welcome to JREF !! belle74311 has not been here in a long, long time, but Muslem or not, I do hope you join in and enjoy the many discussions related to the part of you that can be traced back to Japan !!

I hope to hear more from you !! Let's talk about it !! MM

[fahad]

salam! this is my first post....i am a muslim from kuwait and im so excited after knowing that theres japanese muslims...now i cant wait to go to japan. I'm a big fan of the anime and manga culture but i dont think i have time to visit japan anytime soon but inshallah i will in the future ^_^

[Hezam]

Assalam Alaikum

i am Muslim from Yemen ...I live in Saudi Arabia now

i want to say something to Mars Man :

Mars Man .. you are very smart ..you know more about Islam ...

what do you thing about Islam , Christianity , and other Religions , what is the true or the better ?

i like you too much , you are the original Japanese person ...

i wish join your Messenger if i can ^^

thanx everyone

[w1ngzer0]

It is so strange seeing Japanese in those Arab headpeices.

Exactly. Being muslim has nothing to do with those head pieces. :blush:

[Han Chan]

I saw a nice mosque in Tokyo near Yoyogi-Uehara station - it might be a good place to meet other muslims?

One question to manga/anime loving muslims: Is Pokemon still banned in Saudi Arabia?

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/03/26/saudi.pokemon/

[fahad]

i remember when they made a fuss about it in kuwait but now we are cool about it :P
well i dont know about saudi arabia but i havent heard a new thing about it from there

[Bintang]

newbie here..

i'm muslim from Indonesia.

As you know, Indonesia has the biggest muslim in the world.
I'm one of them.

[Machan]

....................

[fahad]

wa alaikom elsalam machan

[feride]

hello
i want to talk to japanese muslims
i' m a muslim from turkey. i live in vienna. and i am learning japanese. just as a hobby...but i am only a beginner:-)

[scorpion da black]

asalamu alaykom

i am Lebanese, Muslim and proud...Arabian.

i would want to meet Japanese Muslims....because Japanese people as in general are so much like Muslims...
is it only me or is the kamikaze and the samurai so similar to a mujahed

[Calchas]

asalamu alaykom

i am Lebanese, Muslim and proud...Arabian.

i would want to meet Japanese Muslims....because Japanese people as in general are so much like Muslims...
is it only me or is the kamikaze and the samurai so similar to a mujahed



They do share some ideas (for instance the kamikaze suicide attacks can be though to be the same as an attack by one of today's suicide bombers. In addtion a samurai's acceptance of death serving his master might be thought to be the same as a suicide bombers acceptance of his death serving his god) but, if you look deeper,they are not the same at all.

One could argue that a samurai would not consider your run of the mill suicide bomber a warrior nor would a kamikaze think hitting anything other then a direct threat to his home land a viable death. Of course not all mujahed are suicide bombers and there are no samurai or kamikaze around to ask what they think.

[scorpion da black]

They do share some ideas (for instance the kamikaze suicide attacks can be though to be the same as an attack by one of today's suicide bombers. In addtion a samurai's acceptance of death serving his master might be thought to be the same as a suicide bombers acceptance of his death serving his god) but, if you look deeper,they are not the same at all.
One could argue that a samurai would not consider your run of the mill suicide bomber a warrior nor would a kamikaze think hitting anything other then a direct threat to his home land a viable death. Of course not all mujahed are suicide bombers and there are no samurai or kamikaze around to ask what they think.

thanks for your reply bro :-) :-)

not that i mean bad terrorists who claim to be mujahed..
a mujahed is a pure person who never hurts innocent people, and never does any violent act in some one else's home land....he is a person who if obliged to fight would do so with great courage and willingness to battle till death...against soldiers (men in uniform, armed personnel ...brave man vs brave man)
never civilians as terrorists do....
the media tries to picture terrorists as mujahed..and tries to picture all righteous resistance as terrorism....which is wrong! :souka:

[Hikaro]

assalam alaikom everyone ^^
i'm a new member here .. and this is my first post
i was searching about islam in japan for my presentation
and i found this site .. i was happy that i found a japanese muslims
and i liked your talking about islam ^^
i love japan, i can talk japanese a little and i hope meet some japanese muslims
from the dramas that i saw, japanese people are very kind ^^
but i know that it won't happen here in emarat ><"
whatever ..
i have to go now to pray ^^"

see U later
jane~

[scorpion da black]

kazomi and hikaro
welcome and have great time here.

i have found really nice people on this forum, who welcomed me with open arms...
Japanese people, or shall i say everyone interested in japan are really friendly ...

[kazomi]

shall i say everyone interested in japan are really friendly
thax scorpion da black and i guess you r right everyone who is interested in japan is friendly maybe because japanese people are friendly themselves ^__^

welcome dragon xenosaga
hope you will enjoy your time here ^^

[ahmed A.kholy]

alslam alikum , i'm amoslem ;
and i have agood book about introduction for islam ( English ) ;
i will be pleased to give some one this book for who need

[Hikaro]

thank u scorpion da black ..
& i hope so ^^

[Liver Shot]

This is the most multicultural forum I've ever been to; Japanese culture really brings together a diverse group of people. Japanese, Chinese, Americans, British, Dutch, Egyptian, Indonesian... they are all represented, and many, many more! It's amazing.

[Hezam]

Me too ^^, I am looking for Japanese friends not Muslims only ...i am looking for Japanese here ...

I am from Yemen ^^

This is the most multicultural forum I've ever been to; Japanese culture really brings together a diverse group of people. Japanese, Chinese, Americans, British, Dutch, Egyptian, Indonesian... they are all represented, and many, many more! It's amazing


haha ...you will see more than they ...

[scorpion da black]

ohaio, i see you are all sweet..

participate here and give a great image of who we are and we people represent :)

[Liver Shot]

Scorpion, you live in Tripoli, Lebanon? Very cool. Lebanon is a beautiful looking country, and I've always heard Lebanese are among the most hospitable and fun-loving people one could ever meet. I'd love to visit Beirut one day. You've probably been to Beirut a lot, right?

[scorpion da black]

Scorpion, you live in Tripoli, Lebanon? Very cool. Lebanon is a beautiful looking country, and I've always heard Lebanese are among the most hospitable and fun-loving people one could ever meet. I'd love to visit Beirut one day. You've probably been to Beirut a lot, right?

greetings liver shot....

thank you for your nice words..well we lebanese people have a custom of welcoming people with open arms...i have had freinds come over from forign countties, and we all enjoyed seeing the wonders of this land.

Beirut is the center of all matters here in lebanon, so of course i have been there often, i have lived there for two years when i was studying in the Beirut Arab University.

it is an awesome city...still lives up to its name "Paris of the east"
people there never sleep, they live their lives to its limits.

i bet you would love lebanon, and you will meet a lot of nice people who you will call freinds for the rest of your life.

how ever as great as lebanon sounds, it is passing through critical times...security sucks...fights are accuring, and as if the whole area is fueld and the burning match is about to be droped...
just two ays ago, three were killed and 8 were wounded in a gun fight...that wasnt so far away from where i live.

[Liver Shot]

Yeah, it is truly a tragedy about what is happening in Lebanon as far as the fighting. It's unfair to all the peaceful Lebanese to have to watch their country be torn apart. I wish you all the best and hope you have peace in your country soon.

[scorpion da black]

Yeah, it is truly a tragedy about what is happening in Lebanon as far as the fighting. It's unfair to all the peaceful Lebanese to have to watch their country be torn apart. I wish you all the best and hope you have peace in your country soon.

well that is true...a tragedy..

well thanks again, and i hope we will find the peace we are all looking for...

maybe then i could have you over to visit all the great Lebanese sites and show you our hospitability :-)

[DRAGON_XENOSAGA]

woa lebanon..........................my country send peacekeeper to lebanon from
indonesia army,marine and airforce................ some soldier..........tell we about lebanon ....is beauty and great coutry...............and the lebanon girls is beautiful.............someday i hope i can goto lebanon..............for silaturahmi and jalan-jalan..........:cool:

[Hezam]

Oh ^^ Indonesia ...I like this country ...it's very beautiful country and grean land

i hope to see Indonesia ...nice people there and friendly..

best wishes DRAGON XENOSAGA

[scorpion da black]

woa lebanon..........................my country send peacekeeper to lebanon from
indonesia army,marine and airforce................ some soldier..........tell we about lebanon ....is beauty and great coutry...............and the lebanon girls is beautiful.............someday i hope i can goto lebanon..............for silaturahmi and jalan-jalan..........:cool:

i met some of the peace keepers who are indonesian :-)
and they are so freindly...and they are really willing to help the lebanese pass through this hard times...

well if you consider coming to lebanon, then i bet you will love it here...and i welcome you on behalf of all lebanese :wave:

[mimoza]

Hello hello!
Seems like a cool forum, So I had to register and drop a message! How is everyone? Scorpion your from Tripoli???!!! Im from Tripoli too! from El-Mina to be exact, but I live In Finland. Anyone here been to Japan? Im planning to go there next Summer/Autumn. If anyone got any advices, I'd be glad to hear them! Thank you in advance, Have a good day everyone, matane!


mimoza :-)

[scorpion da black]

Hello hello!
Seems like a cool forum, So I had to register and drop a message! How is everyone? Scorpion your from Tripoli???!!! Im from Tripoli too! from El-Mina to be exact, but I live In Finland. Anyone here been to Japan? Im planning to go there next Summer/Autumn. If anyone got any advices, I'd be glad to hear them! Thank you in advance, Have a good day everyone, matane!
mimoza :-)

mimoza chan :wave: :wave: :wave:
ohaio ...
i am so glad to have met you here,, and this world is small, i never expected another person from tripoli to be here :-)...since few of us really know this forum or are interested in japan.
i love japan till obsession, and i am willing to travel there, that is for sure ...

oh i am from al zehrieh by the way...so how is like living in finland?

[Mars Man]

Hello there mimoza san ! WELCOME to JREF !! Please spend time with us and check out the whole forum and all, and you will be able to find out much information about Japan before you come.

Now, if I may here, I'd like to again, point out that this thread is not for chit chat, nor for introductions, actually. It is for talking about how Islam effects/affects Japan, or vice versa. As they say in Japan...onegaishimasu !! (please do me favor !!)

[mimoza]

Thank you for the welcoming Mars Man! I will most definitely check out the rest of the forum. So far so good. I apologize for introducing myself in the wrong place, won't happen again :bluush:
Scorpio, Its a pleasure to meet you. I guess we should talk somewhere else, hehe.

[eemaan]

Konbanwa everyone!
I notice that when Japanese people bow and kneel, it is very much like the prayer of a Muslim almost, only we believe that only God is worthy to be bowed and prostrated to.
In Islam we are taught that every nation on earth was sent a messenger to call to the oneness of God, and so my thinking is that the beautiful manners of the Japanese are left over maybe after centuries, of what the Prophet who was sent to Japan taught. And over time the message was destorted and people began to bow to people instead, and of course God knows best!
Thoughts?

[scorpion da black]

nice way to view it!
nice manners are inherited from a a specific believe system..might be from the abrahamic believes, a philosophy, a civil law....etc
the matter is similaraties between bushido and the islamic warrior code are so strong....
shinto politeness and islamic teachings are so similar as well.

but i never thought some one will agree to that also :-) or even notice

[Mars Man]

Hello there eemaan san ! Long time no see...I hope you have been fine, and it's good to see you again.

I would think it'd be something to look into, but at the moment, doubt that we would be able to find any connection because of the age of the cultural movement. Since this thread would be for such a matter, doing it here is fine. I would suggest, however, that you stick with it if you were to start. You will likely find some objections to some of your propositions, so I think it would be good to make sure you have sources and data...and that would have to be more than just a couple of on-line sites.

I would encourage you to do that though !! Study and learning is such a great thing. I'll let you make the first post as to just where that idea comes from in the first place, and the details behind it, since I am not familiar with it.

[Kyoto Returnee]

I spotted three at a station in Kyoto once.

They stood out in the full dress.

A real suprise.

[bachir]

I spotted three at a station in Kyoto once.
They stood out in the full dress.
A real suprise.
Whom did you see ? muslim japanese women ? with scarves ?
it woul be so wonderful to be able to find a japanese muslim wife...as that is my dream :(
by the way, does anyone know where islam-converted japanese people may be found please ? any website ?
thanks in advance .:-)

[mightymosping]

Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
はじめまして。ラーマンです。シンガポール人です。イスラム人です。2004年11月から日本語を勉 強しています。JLPTはまだ持ちません。今年に26歳です 。後5ヶ月に27歳になります。ずっとイスラム人です。� ｶんだから。
よろしくおねがいします。
色々ことが知りたいです。日本の宗教とか文化とか。宗 教と文化が混ざってるみたい。私の彼女は日本人です。 私たちの予定は結婚するけど彼女は宗教のことが心配し てる。もし助けられるならばありがとうございます。日 本語とかこのこととか。日本の文化と宗教が知りたい。
私も日本にあるのモスクへ行きたい。もし出来れば全部 だ。イスラム人になったの人たちと話した。どうやって そんなに難しいことが出来ました。
ok english.
Hi minna-san. My name is Abdul Rahman, living in Singapore. I learnt Japanese since November 2004 and still learning til now. Working as a full-time analyst programmer for a local-based MNC. Cheh so much for MNC. If possible looking towards working for an actual MNC in Japan. Insya-Allah. Only Allah knows what's best for me. Anyway, I have questions and I need to find answers.

It's about the Culture and Religion in Japan. It seems that it's all mixed together. How do you Muslim fellas managed to get your non-Muslim Japanese girls to convert and how do you cope after that? It's amazing and I've yet to find out how. I'm quite weak in my own religion so I'm working towards it.

I wished to find answers. And I will try my very best, Insya-Allah, to attain the answers to my questions. And I will share the knowledge of what I have with others too.

I have sites too.

Here are some links ...

hisociety.jp - Hokkaido Islamic Society

park2.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/tuics/mosques.htm - Mosques in Japan

If you do have anything for me, please do contact me.
And if you guys want to come down to Singapore, please do not be shy to contact me too. I will try the very best in my effort to show you around Singapore. If you're a Japanese Muslim, even better. I can show you Singapore. You can help me improve my Japanese. You can help me find my answers.

There are so many halal food places in Singapore. There's more to meat than pork. LOL. ok ok jk jk.

I've been to Japan 4 times. Still want to go there. Best is to visit the mosques. I'm sick and tired of Anime and manga. I'll go for more better things. Next plan is to visit all mosques in Japan. Insya-Allah.

First things first, improve myself.

I wish for the best of everyone. Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.

Thanks for reading. If you have contacts or any point of references, it'll be greatly appreciated.

[scorpion da black]

it ia awesome to have met you all here...
but yet no answer from a true japanese muslim living in land... ('_' ")
i have seen a japanese american muslim reply to the thread..but no else

[bachir]

it ia awesome to have met you all here...
but yet no answer from a true japanese muslim living in land... ('_' ")



you're right ! i'm always expecting that a japanese muslim joins this forum.

ohhh how WONDERFUL would that be !!! :yeahh:

[Kyoto Returnee]

Whom did you see ? muslim japanese women ? with scarves ?
it woul be so wonderful to be able to find a japanese muslim wife...as that is my dream :(
by the way, does anyone know where islam-converted japanese people may be found please ? any website ?
thanks in advance .:-)

They looked Indonesian, possibly Malaysian.

Never seen a Japanese Muslim.

[eemaan]

Hi mars man, it's just an idea i had, nothing concrete, so i don't intend to delve deep ito it or research, that's not my thing. Just lookig forward to one day meeting a japnese friend who is muslim one day when i get the opportunityto go to Japan!
Hope you are all well!

[Kyoto Returnee]

you're right ! i'm always expecting that a japanese muslim joins this forum.

ohhh how WONDERFUL would that be !!! :yeahh:

Why?

Aren't we good enough:64:

[bachir]

Why?

Aren't we good enough:64:


oh noooo :o !
i did not and DO NOT mean such a thing . Absolutely not ! :sorry:
Nonetheless, i dream about funding a family with a japanese wife .
that's my objective...or at least my dream .

[mightymosping]

lol bachir... you're funny dude... :cool:

anyway... the japanese culture can be of both extreme... i personally feel... one thing the level of respect for their superior is awesome... i can't never do that... then again... give some respects to the ladies man... you just do go around touching them here and there...

i always worry for my gf... used to always asked her... so who touched you today? lol... until she gets the idea... :okashii:

AND what's up with the TV man... why are there boobs on TV? what if there were kids watching... I was watching TV and saw them... turned away and go... 'what in the blazing world? I don't get that in my country.' then after that... a hand went over my face with words going, 'MINAIDE'... oh i so love her... :-)

when they love you... they really love you dude... you feel choked sometimes... well marriage is something that we can predict... who we will marry... who we will fall in love with... God knows His ways... just a little bit of effort... He'll let you see the one for you...

anyway... good luck... :wave:

[scorpion da black]

:( :( :( :( :(
i want to marry a japanese girl tooooooooo!

bachir san that is harder than i thought...
if finding them is hard..how about falling in love with one of them :(

[bachir]

:( :( :( :( :(
i want to marry a japanese girl tooooooooo!
bachir san that is harder than i thought...
if finding them is hard..how about falling in love with one of them :(


so saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddd :(
do we have to believe that falling in love with a japanese supposed to be a mere mirage ???
oh noooooooooo !!! :worried::worried::worried:

[K-chan]

Kon'nich wa, minna-san!

Thinking of how many Japanese muslims I've met till now, I'm quite surprised. Especially when I haven't visited Japan yet. I knew 3 Japanese muslim women (unfortunately lost contact with them when they moved back). I also met a Japanese muslim professor when he came to my mother's workplace a few years ago to talk about Islam in Japan. And I hear that a Japanese professor in my college is muslim.

The best way to contact Japanese muslims if you're outside Japan, I think, would be to contact the Islamic Center, and also check out Muslim penpal sites. A friend of mine had told me of a site, but I can't remember what it was.

[auntu]

Kon'nich wa, minna-san!
The best way to contact Japanese muslims if you're outside Japan, I think, would be to contact the Islamic Center, and also check out Muslim penpal sites. A friend of mine had told me of a site, but I can't remember what it was.

can u recall d site plz? im really interested being a muslim:bluush:
i am very interested about them need help :bluush:

[K-chan]

Sorry it took me so long to get the website, but my friend didn't have internet for a while. I haven't tried the website out yet, but in shaa Allah it will help.

muslimsin.com

[Nichiren]

I wonder how many people also here are interested in japanese Buddhism...

Esmaan wrote:
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I notice that when Japanese people bow and kneel, it is very much like the prayer of a Muslim almost, only we believe that only God is worthy to be bowed and prostrated to.
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Islam is monotheistic and religions in japan are pantheistic. Pantheistic beliefs revere nature and all living beings(e.g. human beings) in the entire cosmos with such awe and deep respect with the belief that they are one with the entire cosmos. God or gods (Kami as called in Nihongo) symbolizes these forces of nature and it also related to their own lives. This idea is very much common to Buddhist beleifs as well. Thus, Buddhism and Shinto(indigenous religion in japan) go hand in hand. However, Shinto lacks philosophical truth while Buddhism delves into practise and philosophical truth embodied in it.

The difference between monotheistic religions like Islam and its sister faith Judeo-Christian religions(western religions) and pantheistic religions such as represented by Buddhism or shinto(eastern religions) is that western religion like Islam tends to be anthropocentric, placing humanity at the apex of the natural order. Buddhism in particular, on the other hand, views humankind as a part of nature, supporting and giving rise to the notion of bioethics. Since every individual is connected to everything on earth, the destiny of our planet is influenced by the individual's actions. This impersonal truth is viewed in Buddhism as Mystic Law(Dharma) which underlies all creation.This law or truth This truth is eternal and boundless. It is present always and everywhere. In this sense, the law of life is not the exclusive property of a certain religious group, or to a prophet or priest. The truth is open equally to everyone.

The ultimate and all-abiding law(mystic law) that the Buddha perceived may be another name for some people's concept of God. On the other hand, a person who cannot believe in an anthropomorphic God can see an underlying energy to the universe. The breadth of Buddhism encompasses both views and focuses on the individual.

There is no one to blame - and no one to implore for salvation. In Buddhism, no God or supernatural entity plans and shapes our fates. In Western religion, you can bring yourself closer to God through your faith, but you can never become God. In Buddhism, one could never be separate from the wisdom of God, because the ultimate wisdom already exists in the heart of every person.

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And over time the message was destorted and people began to bow to people instead, and of course God knows best!
Thoughts?
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Islam and other religions and culture do not share the same practise or beleifs with Islam as founded by Muhammad who is an arab. Do not compare Islamic culture as prefect while others are inferior. This kind of thingking or belief is wrong!!

Pre-Islamic culture(indigenous arabians) and japanese cultures and beleifs are somewhat in common but they are two distinct cultures. Pre-islamic culture believes on gods and revere nature quite similar to Shinto. Kneeling and bowing to gods or nature is the common practises of ancient or native religions across cultures not only the arabs like my in country before christianity and Islamization in Philippines native filipinos do kneel and bow during their religious rituals. So it is not unique to Islam because it is common practises to ancient arabs or, or asian religions.

[client_x]

Assalamu'alaikum

:wave:

It would be really cool if there's japanese Muslims out here... wanna know how is it like to live and practise Islam in Japan.

[sasoori]

Salaam..
I'm intrested to know about muslims too not only Japanese muslims ..all the asians ^^

[Hime]

Asalam Alykom Wa Rahmat allah Wa Barakatoh every muslims here
I would like to know more about our muslims brother and sisters and how they live in japan

I muslim too but not in Japan

[Sulu]

Assalamu aleykum dear muslims,

I am from Kazakhstan.
InshAllah after some months I will have my phD study in Japan. I hope to meet friends there and here also:-).

Best regards,
Sulu

[Kanye]

Assalamu alaykum to all the Muslims in Japan. I knew there were muslims in Japan but I wasn't aware of the exact numbers. 200,000 is a huge number of muslims.

I'm very happy to hear that their are masjids there as well.

[Shey]

俺はムスリムなんですよ！I'm muslim. But I was just wondering about Saudi Arabia and videogames...
I recently became friends with a Pakistani guy whose parents moved to Japan when he was one month old. He lives in Yamanashi-ken and he actually speaks only japanese and urdu-so I speak in japanese with him-it's very strange because he's not Japanese but he seems like one.

Well! Video games are allowed in Saudia arabia >.<" Infact they play really good .. can't believe I lost to Saeed >.> NYWAY THATS NOT THE POINT! well. It's cool that u speak japanese! I wish I could learn ;(

[katsumoto]

muslim in japan very little 200.000 muslims if you compare them with the number of population .... but i think that islam and Arabic language is very common in Japan more than China and maybe in China hasn't ...
most of japanese universities has ( Arabic language and islamic studying ) .... some japanese students study that but they're not muslim and other declare the islam ...

one japanese girl study that and she intered to islam and put hijab and complete studying in Aleppo university and she can speak Arabic very well ....

lucky i'm muslim and i hope every one to inter to it ....

[motoy005]

Salaam Alaykum brothers and sisters-

I am a Japanese muslim living in the united states looking to find other muslims. I would just like to chat about their cultural experiences and share mine as it may help us grow stronger in iman. so good to see I am not alone.

[Egyptian4476]

Alsalamou Alikoum
I'm Egyptian Muslim Girl, in fact i'm fond of Japanese and i hope live and work in Japan even marry Muslim Japanese man residing in any country
So if any one can help me please don't hesitate
Many thanks

[Far_star]

Hi all i am MO from algeria really wanna message some one from japan girl or boy any one en must be muslim

[Far_star]

Hi again
first any one need help in arabic or in islam I'll be happy to give my help

[katsumoto]

Hi again
first any one need help in arabic or in islam I'll be happy to give my help


good you know Arabic ... !!:-)

what is your mother language ??

welcome here with us ..

[Far_star]

hi katsumoto ok my mother language is arabic few english and french if u want help message me

[Nurul_Lim]

Are you a muslim? Do you know a little about Islam?
I don't care English, American,Canadian or any other people convert to muslim because I respect muslim and Islam, but I opppose Chinese people convert to muslim.
reason:
1)Islam is full of fallacy.muslim always say "Anyone can be a muslim" but never say "Any Muslim can be a non-muslim", that words, Islam is like a boat which is easy to enter in but difficult to come out for you and your descendants.
2)Islam is full of culture-aggression. Muslim always say they are the most excellence people in the universe and a true muslim must discard all your former nationalities and become a "new" guy with "new" habits. maybe you can't discard your former nationalities clearly but how could your sons and your grandsons?
3)All muslims are brothers. This means an English,American or Canadian could be a brother of Arabs. Can I ask a muslim who is your more conversant brethren between a foreign muslim and a native non-muslim?
I don't oppose Islam indeed, Islam has many advantages and we should learn from, but learning from you doesn't imply I must become a muslim.
How can you oppose those who want to convert to Islam? Strange. Everyone can choose whatever religion they want. My dad's a Chinese/Buddhist converted to Muslim and my mom's a Malay/Muslim. He's still a Chinese and during Chinese New Year, we as a family will go visit our Ah Ma (or also known as grandmother) It's his wish to convert. No one forced him to become a Muslim. Also, in Singapore, there are muslims who convert to other religions. It's really up to them. It's not true to discard former nationalities. What do you mean by that? Anyway, Muslims are able to adopt other cultures and traditions eg. Muslims can have Chinese names (my chinese name is Lin Xin Ru) Muslims can use chopsticks to eat, Muslims can do yoga, Muslims can play ping pong, Muslims can do taichi, Muslims can participate in Chinese caligraphy - Basically, Muslims can do many things as long as Muslims know their basic Islamic principles. All Muslims are brothers and sisters - regardless of race (skin colour), language and attitude. Yep, true that learning from Islam doesn't need you to be a Muslim. An example, as you can see in Singapore, cigarettes are being cut down. Islam teaches us that smoking is best not to be consumed because it gets you addicted and as you know, it can cause many diseases such as colon cancer. Hopefully, this will clear your doubt about Islam.

[katsumoto]

thnak you Nurul_Lim for your participation ...
and I agree with you and this guy where from bring this information ??!!!!
any one can muslim and form any place ...

and what islam teaches us ( more speaking than Nurul_Lim ) smoking harm to health and this sceince view but islam didn't say that but say we aviod to use anything harm to our bodies ... and with this speaking it's General speaking and gather all harm thing to aviod .....

[xhayax]

Didn't know that there are japanese muslims.
That's so cool to know.

:)

[kouichisan]

Hi everyone, it's my first post on this forum..

I live in the UK and I am a Muslim studying Japanese. I would also like to meet Japanese Muslims. :-)

[Echigo]

There are quite a few mosques around Tokyo and Yokohama. Metropolis did a feature on muslims in Japan about a year ago I think.

[amir_banana]

hi, i'm amir, a muslim from malaysia. i've been in Japan on may last year and i went to Tokyo Mosque in Shibuya. most of the muslims i saw there are foreign, mostly from pakistan & bangladesh,I'm happy to see few japanese muslims, man & women. few of them put scarf on their head and the others were not. i dont know the reason but maybe they just converted to islam...i dunno..but to see japanese come to the mosque make me feel happy...

[Kanye]

Subhan Allah, it's so good to hear that there are muslims in Japan.

[Far_star]

Hi amir need to talk with you so message me soon

[moh2063]

It's beautiful to see some Nihon muslims :)

I want to go to Japan soon Incha Allah :) and I want some contacts thereplease ^_^

[Lady Taiyo]

wow! I would like to make friends with some Japanese musilms too!

[katsumoto]

Subhan Allah, it's so good to hear that there are muslims in Japan.

it's not strange to see japanese muslims coz there is schools in Japan for Islam religion and Arabic language , but it's strange and rare to see muslims in China ....

nice to meet you all MUSLIMS :-)

[Dogen Z]

I'm afraid many people consider Islam a dangerous religion nowadays because of all the fanatic extremists. I think Japanese are very wary of this image and tend to shy away from the religion.

Have you ever studied Zen? If you are in Japan, I encourage you to try it rather than looking for Japanese coverts.

[moh2063]

it's not strange to see japanese muslims coz there is schools in Japan for Islam religion and Arabic language , but it's strange and rare to see muslims in China ....
nice to meet you all MUSLIMS :-)

I don't think so katsumot, ;)
I saw a documentary about muslims in China and they are many ;)

[Nichiren]

i wonder if islamic countries and muslim people studied other eastern religions ecpecially Buddhism...i have known muslim-asian people converted to Buddhism particularly in Nichiren Buddhism...i have friend also an ex-muslim who is practicing nichiren buddhism now...there are also buddhists working and living in arab-muslim countries..i have known there were nichiren buddhist community group in the muslim-arab world...its good to see there were arab-buddhist also....

my wish that islamic countries are being more tolerant to other religions rather than shunning all other religious groups...

[moh2063]

my country for example doesn't teach any other religion, to tell the truth it doesn't either teach our religion "Islam" so our people are ignorants about their own religion and that's why they converts to other religion ;) it's not because they found that Islam is not truth, they don't know anything about it ;)

[Nichiren]

my country for example doesn't teach any other religion, to tell the truth it doesn't either teach our religion "Islam" so our people are ignorants about their own religion and that's why they converts to other religion ;) it's not because they found that Islam is not truth, they don't know anything about it ;)


I guess, that's basically the same thing with other religions not only in islam. But not all convert to other religions or become apostates its because they dont know about their religious beliefs or teachings. For instance, my ex-muslim friend for 4 years, who was a christian before, had studied islamic theology in one of the Islamic center in the Philippines. He is pretty much indoctrinated with Islam and have deep faith in its beleifs. However, when he opened his minds and encountered Nichiren Buddhism. He give it a try and find buddhist philosophy and practise more appealing and working in his daily life. He knew that islamic and buddhist principles are different in the perspectives on the view of life..

[Derfel]

my country for example doesn't teach any other religion, to tell the truth it doesn't either teach our religion "Islam" so our people are ignorants about their own religion and that's why they converts to other religion ;) it's not because they found that Islam is not truth, they don't know anything about it ;)

So Islam is the true religion huh and all the other religions are mistaken? Funny thing is that almost every religion seems to suggest this.

[Nichiren]

So Islam is the true religion huh and all the other religions are mistaken? Funny thing is that almost every religion seems to suggest this.

that is what islam teaches and indoctrinating muslims to believe in without questioning their beliefs... and telling you what to believe and what not to believe..i dont buy this kind of blind faith..

[moh2063]

So Islam is the true religion huh and all the other religions are mistaken? Funny thing is that almost every religion seems to suggest this.

funny ? I don't think ;)
did you see a catholic guy saying: "I'm catholic but I think that Buddhism is the truth :wave:". so why is he catholic ?

Nichiren :
I maintain what I sayed, if he knewed the truth about Islam, he hadn't to change religion ;)
and the idea about he studied in an Islamic Center isn't a proof that he knows all about Islam ^^ and I add that the allmost of Muslims in the world don't know what are the basics of Islam and they pretend to know everything

[Nichiren]

Nichiren :
I maintain what I sayed, if he knewed the truth about Islam, he hadn't to change religion ;)
and the idea about he studied in an Islamic Center isn't a proof that he knows all about Islam ^^ and I add that the allmost of Muslims in the world don't know what are the basics of Islam and they pretend to know everything

We'll, the truth about islam may not be the ultimate truth or it might be the teachings of islam is not ultimate or profound for others or disagree with islamic teachings/principles.. that is why intellectual or no-intellectual people leave islam perhaps looking for another religious teacher/sage or become apostate...

[innssann]

what is Islam and Why Religions ?
this is my answer:
read my blog please: holly-system at blogspot site

[Zoon van Ijs]

funny ? I don't think ;)
did you see a catholic guy saying: "I'm catholic but I think that Buddhism is the truth :wave:". so why is he catholic ?



Buddhism is sometimes viewed as a philosophy rarther than a religion, especially that it doesn't impose a belief in a universal daddy like most religions. This means that you may be buddhist while belonging to a relatively liberal denomination of some religion.

Also being "Catholic", "Muslim", "Jewish", you name it, may be a reference to one's culture rather than one's religious beliefs. I have a Christian friend who considers herself culturally Jewish, and some agnostic and atheist friends who consider themselves culturally Muslim.


Nichiren :
I maintain what I sayed, if he knewed the truth about Islam, he hadn't to change religion ;)
and the idea about he studied in an Islamic Center isn't a proof that he knows all about Islam ^^ and I add that the allmost of Muslims in the world don't know what are the basics of Islam and they pretend to know everything


I don't see why one should know "all" about a religion in order to determine whether they want to convert to it or not.. knowing the basics would be enough, and only when you agree with those basics would you pursue your self-query within that religion. Otherwise you'd just look somewhere else..

And using your very own logic: do you know all about Buddhism? Judaism? Hinduism? Even Islam? How can you be so sure that Islam is the adequate religion for you, even the one true religion as you say, if you don't have full knowledge of all other religions?

[Nichiren]

Buddhism is sometimes viewed as a philosophy rarther than a religion, especially that it doesn't impose a belief in a universal daddy like most religions. This means that you may be buddhist while belonging to a relatively liberal denomination of some religion.
Also being "Catholic", "Muslim", "Jewish", you name it, may be a reference to one's culture rather than one's religious beliefs. I have a Christian friend who considers herself culturally Jewish, and some agnostic and atheist friends who consider themselves culturally Muslim.
I don't see why one should know "all" about a religion in order to determine whether they want to convert to it or not.. knowing the basics would be enough, and only when you agree with those basics would you pursue your self-query within that religion. Otherwise you'd just look somewhere else..
And using your very own logic: do you know all about Buddhism? Judaism? Hinduism? Even Islam? How can you be so sure that Islam is the adequate religion for you, even the one true religion as you say, if you don't have full knowledge of all other religions?

in this sense, Gautama Buddha advice those seekers of the way:

"Don't believe in anything simply because you heard it.
Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations.
Do not believe in anything because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis, you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept and live up to it."

[Dr.Psycho]

Iam a muslim


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQdGBu4biWU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KknFEguhD5s

[Nichiren]

Iam a muslim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQdGBu4biWU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KknFEguhD5s

Hi? have u read the other thread about special characteristics of Buddhism? let me hear your opinions.. Here is the link:

http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41827

namaste

[Dr.Psycho]

thanks and ya i read it and i respect all religions and i didn't post these links to show everybody that Islam is the best just to know about Islam

[Nichiren]

thanks and ya i read it and i respect all religions and i didn't post these links to show everybody that Islam is the best just to know about Islam

I appreciate it. I hope that islamic countries respect other faiths and people practise freely without fear or coercion especially in the arab countries. Its good to know that my fellow SGI-buddhist members in dubai had congregate themselves working to connect people irregardless of race or religion through SGI ideals for peace, culture and education.

Try to look their website: www.sgidubai.org

[Dr.Psycho]

i have a christian friends and Buddhism and i respect them the same way i respect Muslims

[Nichiren]

i have a christian friends and Buddhism and i respect them the same way i respect Muslims

This is mostly a Buddhist forum. So what made u visit on this forum?


Nam Myoho Renge kyo....

[Dr.Psycho]

This is mostly a Buddhist forum. So what made u visit on this forum?
Nam Myoho Renge kyo....


discussion ........

[Derfel]

This is mostly a Buddhist forum.

How did you come to that conclusion? I could probably count the Buddhist members on one hand.

[epigene]

This is mostly a Buddhist forum. So what made u visit on this forum?
Nam Myoho Renge kyo....
This is NOT a Buddhist forum--nor for any other religion.

This is a SECTION in JREF to discuss religion in Japan, nothing more. No proselytizing, please! :okashii:

[Nichiren]

This is NOT a Buddhist forum--nor for any other religion.
This is a SECTION in JREF to discuss religion in Japan, nothing more. No proselytizing, please! :okashii:

sorry of i misunderstood that people learn the religion of japan and we know japan is culturally buddhist country mixed with along with it indigenous religion shinto..

[Derfel]

sorry of i misunderstood that people learn the religion of japan and we know japan is culturally buddhist country mixed with along with it indigenous religion shinto..

1, Please take a look at the number of Japanese people on the forums. Not too high a number right?
2, Now consider how many of them are expressed Buddhist. 0?

This is a forum for those interested in Japan. That doesn't mean we're all interested in Buddhism. Buddhism in our contemporary world plays a very small role in the captivated gaijin's life. An additional thing. I am pretty convinced that Japanese people know very well what Buddhism is about and if they don't, despite the exposure to it in their own country... they don't give a toss.

The main idea behind the forum is to provide non-Japanese people with information. I mean, honestly, whats being said here on the forums is very often common knowledge to a Japanese person, because it is taking place right around him or her.

There and thousands of people visit the site, many of whom follow different faiths or none at all. A religious bias would be totally unjustified and pointless. The reason jref is a more or less healthy 'community' is because there is no 'head honcho' religion. Keep petty little religious rivalries the hell out of here. No one gives a damn about the conflict of faiths, because they never end. Both parties cite scripture and more and more scripture or some other medium for the countless lies and the debate goes on and on and on until the members age and die.

The day this forum develops a religious bias is the day the server should be smashed with a hammer and every last bit of data erased. Buddhism is no exception.

[ASHIKAGA]

sorry of i misunderstood that people learn the religion of japan and we know japan is culturally buddhist country mixed with along with it indigenous religion shinto..

As epigene has already written, this is a section of the forum where people can discuss religion in Japan, so, the criteria for an appropriate topic in this section would be if it has something to do with a religion/religions and with Japan. The topic "Muslims in Japan" meets that criteria.

Another point made by epigene is that this is a place where people discuss those topics. We all know the difference between a religious meeting and a discussion group about religions, do we not?

We can talk about any religion as long as the topic has something to do with Japan.

[Jamii__x]

Japanese Muslims :love:

[madyf]

Japanese Muslims :love:
hehe .. me too :love:

[Derfel]

Tentacle rape hentai :love:

[Trollhattan]

I haven't met one native Japanes muslim,are there many converts ?

[sash]

nichiren it is actually in our religion to respect other religions even if u cant be more sure that it is wrong and i actually dont care whether someone is christian or Jewish or anything as long as they r ppl who think like u u can call them ur friends and to be frank wid u guys i have a christian as my best friend and my other friends are either hindus, muslims or buddists i myself am an arab but i really dont care.hope everyone is wid me in this matter.arigato
now i would like to meet a japanese girl wid any religion r there any here.

[Nichiren]

nichiren it is actually in our religion to respect other religions even if u cant be more sure that it is wrong and i actually dont care whether someone is christian or Jewish or anything as long as they r ppl who think like u u can call them ur friends and to be frank wid u guys i have a christian as my best friend and my other friends are either hindus, muslims or buddists i myself am an arab but i really dont care.hope everyone is wid me in this matter.arigato
now i would like to meet a japanese girl wid any religion r there any here.

Its good that u are not stock with islamic dogmas as most of its followers are.. Do u care to marry a woman u like who is non-muslim but it was forbidden in your religion..how come there is respect on it? how would u solve the issues? pls let me enlighten.. :)

I have millions of friends in japan who were Soka Gakkai Buddhists..they are not contemplative group(as most other tradtional buddhists) isolated apart from reality but they are very active to put their practise in their lives and to society in the fields of peace, culture and education...

If u can read japanese. This is the website: http://www.sokanet.jp/

[sash]

well,
#1 i am a girl and it kinda seemed like u r addressing me like a boy.:p
#2 weell some ppl r so into their religion honestly i am too sometimes if i heard someone talking bad abt it bt some ppl r just bored coz they dont have something to do so they make problems and big deals abt anything and one among them is the religions.so dont get worked up abt those ppl and a fact is most of those ppl are muslims so i really am sorry for that.its like they r sitting at home bored and then suddenly they go out searching for some troubles and i really dont know the real reason maybe bordem or maybe they r just evil :?plz if u saw a couple of muslims who r bad it doesnt mean all of us r.

[Nichiren]

sash;642644]well,
#1 i am a girl and it kinda seemed like u r addressing me like a boy.:p

Oh! i am sorry. :D We'll, what country are u from? I supposed ur from Qatar because of the flag below ur username..am i right?..But as muslim girl, are u free to choose and have the freedom to do in life? Do u consider yourself inferior to muslim man? i am sorry for being too askful..i am really trying to see the practices of a certain religious faith like interested knowing the cultural beliefs of islam.


#2 weell some ppl r so into their religion honestly i am too sometimes if i heard someone talking bad abt it bt some ppl r just bored coz they dont have something to do so they make problems and big deals abt anything and one among them is the religions.so dont get worked up abt those ppl and a fact is most of those ppl are muslims so i really am sorry for that.its like they r sitting at home bored and then suddenly they go out searching for some troubles and i really dont know the real reason maybe bordem or maybe they r just evil :?plz if u saw a couple of muslims who r bad it doesnt mean all of us r.[/QUOTE]

so u dont care what teachings of islam are or u just a free spirit individual? what does islamic society expected from you especially ur a girl?