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brunosprak
Mar 30, 2009, 19:46
Hello, everyone!
I found this sentence 「…力が、足りめ」 and I wanted to understand it better. 力 is strength (or power), 足りる (and also 足る) means "to be sufficient, to be enough".
So, I have two questions:
1) In this phrase, which of the two verbs (足りる/足る) is being actually used?
2) What is the meaning of め on it? It seems it makes the clause a negative phrase. How does this work?

Every comment is welcome,
Thank you.

Toritoribe
Mar 30, 2009, 20:18
Probably you misheard or did typo. It should be 足りね(え/ぇ).
And yes, it's the contraction of 足りない, the negative form of 足りる used by male. 足る is the archaic form of 足りる.

undrentide
Mar 30, 2009, 20:20
Hello, everyone!
I found this sentence 「…力が、足りめ」 and I wanted to understand it better. 力 is strength (or power), 足りる (and also 足る) means "to be sufficient, to be enough".
So, I have two questions:
1) In this phrase, which of the two verbs (足りる/足る) is being actually used?
2) What is the meaning of め on it? It seems it makes the clause a negative phrase. How does this work?

Every comment is welcome,
Thank you.

Whoever wrote the sentence, even by a native speaker,
足りめ sounds so wrong to me...! :relief:

But if it is 足りなめ, then it makes sense.
足りない (not enough, lack) + め = 足りなめ
On the short side, tends to be lacking, etc.

There are several usage of this め:

(1) adjective + め : to show tendency, feature
厚い+め : 厚め rather thick
多い+め : 多め rather many
長い+め : 長め rather long, longish
少ない+め : rather small (in quantity)

足りなめ belongs here.

(2) verb + め : to show that something is in that state
落ちる+め = 落ちめ(おちめ) on a decline
弱る+め = 弱り目(よわりめ) in misfortune
控える+め = 控えめ(ひかえめ) modest, decent

(3) verb + め : to show the point of it
縫う+め = 縫い目(ぬいめ) seam (=where one sewed)

brunosprak
Mar 30, 2009, 20:41
Hi, thank you for the answers and for the long explanation undrentide.
Based on what Toritoribe said, I checked if what I typed was correct, but now I'm not sure of it. Here is a image of the text:
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Would it be 足りぬ instead of 足りめ? If so, does this help or just complicates even more?

Toritoribe
Mar 30, 2009, 21:52
足りぬ is correct. It's the archaic form of 足りない. ぬ is the archaic auxiliary verb to negate a verb, as same as ない in modern Japanese.

brunosprak
Mar 30, 2009, 22:54
Oh, I didn't know that! Very interesting. Thank you :cool: