The Iranian theocracy. How do we deal with their government?

[Yan]

Hello all,

You may already have heared of the latest Iranian election and the recent riots. The ultraconservative Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been elected for another time. But has he really been elected or he's been choiced by ayotallah?

I personally believe that it is a fake democracy. How can we call Iran a democracy if the candidates for elections are selected by a group of religious people? This is not a democracy, it's more a theocraty.

So what do you think about that?

[Hezam]

well,Why all this Uproar about iran !
Why did not the world say something about what happend in Egypt ? When they faked the elections and prison the people who voted for Al-Ikhwan ?

Okay,we dont refuse that the iranian election is fake but not 100%.
And Yes he's been choiced by Ayatollah whitch make it very hard to re-election.

We have to see what will happen in the near future.

[Yan]

well,Why all this Uproar about iran !
Why did not the world say something about what happend in Egypt ? When they faked the elections and prison the people who voted for Al-Ikhwan ?
Because I'm talking about actuality and I was probably too young when it happened. :)

[Hezam]

Oh !
How old are you now ?
to discuss some Sensitive subject in your age.....!

[Yan]

Oh !
How old are you now ?
to discuss some Sensitive subject in your age.....!
I'm 17 years old. It is already hard to duscuss about sensitive subjects in my native language, it is ever harder in English. I'm not living in a bilingual place, I had to learn English by myself. :relief:

[Hezam]

>_< i thought you 25 or over...
Yes me too,i barely explain things in English especially the political issues..you did very well.

back to topic:
i just read that Ayatollah warned Mosawi and Mosawi stoped the protestings !!!!

[Mycernius]

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. If Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had lost there would have been complaints about election rigging from his party. Ultimately neither person is an outright winner as Iran is a theocracy and the Ayatolla has the final say in how the country is run. The president can do and say some things, but if he crosses the real leader then he is slapped down, and this has happened to Ahmadinejad. He might like to think he runs the country, but in the end he is a puppet of a religious leader. Democracy with a few changes, but it has served Iran for the past 30 years.

[Hezam]

The president can do and say some things, but if he crosses the real leader then he is slapped down
This goes to the American presidents,the one who has the upper word is the Congress.

[justin]

The rest of the world will have to accept Iran for what it will be. Right now the fate of Iran is like a coin spinning on the ground. Should it land heads it will remain a false democracy where one man can overturn the will of the people. However, should the coin land on the reverse it will become a fledgling democracy and a sign of hope to the world.

Sadly, I feel that change won't happen. The government of Iran has shown its willing to use force. We all know what happens when people without guns stand up against people with them.

That's just how I feel anyway.

[Hezam]

I hope to see Iran without those religios men especially Ayatollah...
Then Iranian will be able to live freely.

[Clawn]

I've tried to stay neutral to some extent in regards to this issue, but I can't help but find myself pumping my fist along with the protesters when I turn on a television and hoping that they stand up to the government crack-down.

The way I see it, though, is that if the government pushes hard enough, the people may finally snap under the pressure and retaliate more forcefully. Who knows? Perhaps I may even get to see the first major political revolution of my lifetime. :wave:

[Mycernius]

I've tried to stay neutral to some extent in regards to this issue, but I can't help but find myself pumping my fist along with the protesters when I turn on a television and hoping that they stand up to the government crack-down.

The way I see it, though, is that if the government pushes hard enough, the people may finally snap under the pressure and retaliate more forcefully. Who knows? Perhaps I may even get to see the first major political revolution of my lifetime. :wave:

Might do, but remember desperate men will do anything to hang onto power. The key is whose side the military is on. Remember the breakup of the Soviet Union? The army stood by as the old guard tried to keep control. In Romania it sided against the Ceausescu regime and we all know what happened to him.

On the other hand it is the power in Burma, hence the failure there, and then there were the protests in China at Tiananmen Square. The army stood by the government and the people suffered.