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Hi,
Following the LDP election victory, where does that leave Japanese business and Japanese society? Could it benefit Japanese business or hinder it?
Thanks
Mark.
JerseyBoy
Sep 10, 2009, 02:42
Hi,
Following the LDP election victory, where does that leave Japanese business and Japanese society? Could it benefit Japanese business or hinder it?
Thanks
Mark.
The LDP suffered a massive loss in this election and the opposition party DPJ won a landslide victory over the LDP.
Many talking heads and pundits say the DPJ's electoral victory is basically a vote against the LDP. My sense is the Japanese public is well aware what has been ailing Japan cannot be fixed by politicians or political parties. It became apparent that the Japanese triumviri which had lead Japan since the end of the WW2 lost its effectiveness and relevance to the general public around the time the so called lost decade(s) engulfed Japan.
EdZiomek
Sep 11, 2009, 22:02
This election, even though I don't understand it, was depicted in a New York newspaper as some type of huge explosion happening over Mt. Fuji, almost as if a benchmark change occurred that everyone must pay attention to.
What the hell is going on? What does it mean? Do the banks get taken over? Is the manufacturing nationalised? Are you going to hire George Bush Jr. for strategic advice?
I am clueless on this one, and many others, I am afraid to say.
What is going on?
Ed Zero-putz.
Mike Cash
Sep 11, 2009, 22:24
I just hope it doesn't mean we're going to start down the trail to our own little version of Obama-esque La-La Land.
I just hope it doesn't mean we're going to start down the trail to our own little version of Obaba-esque La-La Land.
Would you prefer JapanaBush Aso Taro?
EdZiomek
Sep 12, 2009, 09:13
We are all asking questions. What are the answers?
Social change? Economic change? Political activism?
Change can be good, but virtually any radical change rips societies apart, to arrive at a much less quality lifestyle, to return to the starting point 10 years later. Net-net, zero change?
What do these changes mean? Nothing?
JerseyBoy
Sep 13, 2009, 17:06
We are all asking questions. What are the answers?
Social change? Economic change? Political activism?
Change can be good, but virtually any radical change rips societies apart, to arrive at a much less quality lifestyle, to return to the starting point 10 years later. Net-net, zero change?
What do these changes mean? Nothing?
Hard to say at this time simply because DPJ has not governed Japan before. With some precedents on record, then, we could draw some predictions. Changing a tradition-bound Japan is a difficult task to say the least. Based on their campaign promises, they will try to put consumers (or, regular individual tax payers / citizens) first ahead of Japan's corporate interests. I will reserve my judgement until they show me the money.
EdZiomek
Sep 20, 2009, 09:25
Folks, no plans? No stated goals? No directives? No clues? No agendas?
I guarantee, one of two things, and maybe both.
No changes as a consequence, and maybe chaos, and maybe chaos in making no changes.
This is a classic case of ..."The more promises of change that are made, the less likely that any changes will take place."
I am not sure if anyone remembers the movie, "The Candidate" with Robert Redford... as the most unlikely of challenging candidates, he miraculously finally wins the Senate seat election, and he turns to his campaign manager and says... "Well, now what do I do?".
Elizabeth
Sep 20, 2009, 09:44
Folks, no plans? No stated goals? No directives? No clues? No agendas?
I guarantee, one of two things, and maybe both.
No changes as a consequence, and maybe chaos, and maybe chaos in making no changes.
This is a classic case of ..."The more promises of change that are made, the less likely that any changes will take place."
I am not sure if anyone remembers the movie, "The Candidate" with Robert Redford... as the most unlikely of challenging candidates, he miraculously finally wins the Senate seat election, and he turns to his campaign manager and says... "Well, now what do I do?".
Before dismissing any more information on this topic, I seriously urge you to find out more about it, read and educate yourself. In the early going, everything appears to be working in the new government's favor. As Japan heads into Silver Week, the Hatoyama government's standing could not be better. It has the popular support of the people it needs to set itself up to succeed; the prime minister chose wisely in picking his cabinet ministers.
But now the question is how the cabinet will proceed and whether it will be able to hold itself together as it moves an agenda through the Diet. The challange that awaits it is to sort out the budget and get its legislation ready for the Diet session scheduled to open in late October.
Whether times really have changed, can we at least hold off a final judgement until then ? Preferably until next summer with the Upper House elections. Pass the popcorn, please. lol. We will all have to sit back and enjoy the show. That's the fun of it. Wait and see. All governments fail sooner or later, but this one has several strengths working in its favor and isn't by any means doomed to immediate diaster.
:souka:
Elizabeth
Sep 20, 2009, 10:39
Hard to say at this time simply because DPJ has not governed Japan before. With some precedents on record, then, we could draw some predictions. Changing a tradition-bound Japan is a difficult task to say the least. Based on their campaign promises, they will try to put consumers (or, regular individual tax payers / citizens) first ahead of Japan's corporate interests. I will reserve my judgement until they show me the money.
Well, the stimulus package is being reversed so I hope your check has already been pocketed. ;-) But seriously, their first step toward fiscal responsibility, to propose widening the revenue base by closing loopholes that have favored certain corporations, at least is a wise one for a country and a tax system that is riddled with them to the tune of an astounding 70% of Japanese companies that can avoid paying tax.
A new era in Japanese politics has truly begun.
caster51
Sep 29, 2009, 17:11
A new era in Japanese politics has truly begun.
at first, I am not a fan of LDP manifesto
however I expect this one and selected them
many japanese felt this chance a lot because of fall and multipolarization of USA
From the Showa era up to now, the Heisei era, Hideki Tojo, Shigeru Yoshida, and Kakuei Tanaka can be said to have left their marks on history.
While prime ministers such as Yasuhiro Nakasone, who promoted administrative reform, and Junichiro Koizumi, who championed privatization of the postal services, will be remembered for their particular accomplishments, it is difficult to say that they represented their times.
Hideki Tojo turned Japan, which since the Meiji era had followed a basic path of developing into a modern country through cooperation with the West, into a militaristic nation that opposed the West. Shigeru Yoshida worked to return Japan to its pre-war path of cooperation with the West by working with General MacArthur of the GHQ, who temporarily governed Japan after its defeat in the war, and, in particular, to resurrect the pre-war Japan under the protection of the U.S, creating the foundation of present main-stream conservative Japan.
Then Kakuei Tanaka broke from the morals and ideals of Japan and led the country into an era that was centered on economic growth.
Demanding change, the Japanese people voted into power the Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ). (DPJ President) Yukio Hatoyama will (strive to) end Japan’s deference to the U.S. and opposes bureaucrat-led politics, the foundation of conservative politics. If Hatoyama is successful, this will without doubt bring about a new era, and Hatoyama will go down in Japanese history as a prime minister whose impact was surpassed only by Yoshida’s.
Strive for a sovereign Japan
The main stream of conservatism is based on logrolling between politicians and bureaucrats and maintaining the status quo. During the 20th century, an era of wars and fiercer international competition, it is clearly evident that based on the ideas of conservatism, Japan avoided risks and consistently maintained the status quo.
The 21st century is said to be the century of Asia, an era in which both the political and military power of the U.S. and Western Europe will decline. Hatoyama possesses the ideals of the elder statesmen of the Meiji era, and it is time to strive for the ideals of Yoshida?to transform Japan into a leading country, a super power of Asia, in cooperation with the West. However, the present constitution and U.S.-Japan Security Treaty stand in the way of Hatoyama’s ideals and philosophy.
There are gaps between the ideals embodied in the present constitution and those of Hatoyama and between the ideal of equality with the U.S. and the U.S.-Japan Security Treaty. These issues cannot be resolved overnight. In addition, should the public works projects under way be frozen or improved? Where will the funds to support people raising children and the welfare of the Japanese come from?
Along with the more than 140 Ozawa children (newly elected members of the Diet who won due to Ichiro Ozawa), who know nothing about politics, how will Hatoyama face the coming contradictions between ideals and reality? Hatoyama will probably feel a chill as the warmth of victory fades and he looks at the present conditions.
People who know Japan’s history of constitutional government likely think that “time is truly ironic.” A descendent of Shigeru Yoshida (Asao) was defeated, and a descendent of Ichiro Hatoyama has become the leader of Japan, and this descendent of Ichiro Hatoyama (constantly opponent to Shigeru Yoshisa ) is now working to realize the ideals of the Shigeru Yoshida.
Hatoyama tries the cancellation of an unequal agreement With USA
that is evrryhing
http://tanakanews.com/090925japan.htm
Elizabeth
Oct 12, 2009, 11:03
On the Marine air station Okinawa base question, one of the two major sticking points between the DPJ and the US government, the Hatoyama government is already abandoning a manifesto position demanding relocation to an offshore facility.
http://mainichi.jp/select/seiji/news/20090927ddm001010096000c.html
http://www.asahi.com/politics/update/1007/TKY200910070452.html?ref=rss
Astroboy
Oct 26, 2009, 01:55
On the Marine air station Okinawa base question, one of the two major sticking points between the DPJ and the US government, the Hatoyama government is already abandoning a manifesto position demanding relocation to an offshore facility.
http://mainichi.jp/select/seiji/news/20090927ddm001010096000c.html
http://www.asahi.com/politics/update/1007/TKY200910070452.html?ref=rss
I suggest US government not to think of Mr You & I because DPJ government will end soon.
DPJ govenrment is changing economic stimulus package former PM Aso launched and Japan's economy will soon be sink again. Until end of this year, japanese meda will be relatiovely gentle about Mr You & I but from the beginning of next year, he will be more bashed due to worsening economy as well as muddle policies.
In short, Japan's PM (or Mr You & I) was amateur, dreaming fields of flowers. :blush:
biru san1
Oct 27, 2009, 10:40
I suggest US government not to think of Mr You & I because DPJ government will end soon.
DPJ govenrment is changing economic stimulus package former PM Aso launched and Japan's economy will soon be sink again. Until end of this year, japanese meda will be relatiovely gentle about Mr You & I but from the beginning of next year, he will be more bashed due to worsening economy as well as muddle policies.
In short, Japan's PM (or Mr You & I) was amateur, dreaming fields of flowers. :blush:
Interesting point of view... Thank you for your thoughts... I have much more faith in the opinions of the average Japanese citizen then those of the talking heads of the news media... I am a member of The Japan Society Of Boston, and we have lately been celebrating our "Sisiter City" friendship with Kyoto... Ogenkide... biru san1
caster51
Oct 27, 2009, 21:38
Real LDP's victory will be next year after election of House of Councillors
I mean LDP now is an interim government..
True Democratic Party Cabinet is after it wins a great victory in next year's House of Councilors election . the social party in LDP that becomes obstructive is excluded because of constitutional revision and the Treaty of mutual cooperation and security between Japan and the United States of America review
Yukio Hatoyama's responsibility is to succeed Hatoyama Ichiro's purpose and to end postwar days.
1)Japan-Russia peace treaty.
The obstruction of the Japan-Russia peace treaty is an obstruction of the return of the northern territories. Japan postponed the standpoint of the defeated country, and it kept persisting, and the conclusion of a peace treaty was postponed. It has been continued to request the return of all four islands as a package in the standpoint of the defeated country.
It is in the United States that embarrasses as for Japan and Russia's making a peace treaty as an equal country.
2)strategic partner with China.
The consumer is a king in the world of capitalism.
Elizabeth
Oct 28, 2009, 08:00
I suggest US government not to think of Mr You & I because DPJ government will end soon.
DPJ govenrment is changing economic stimulus package former PM Aso launched and Japan's economy will soon be sink again. Until end of this year, japanese meda will be relatiovely gentle about Mr You & I but from the beginning of next year, he will be more bashed due to worsening economy as well as muddle policies.
In short, Japan's PM (or Mr You & I) was amateur, dreaming fields of flowers. :blush:
Whether the DPJ opposed the Aso package or not, they're still getting the tail end of its economic benefits. As Hatoyama concentrates on his own version stimulus to kick start domestically-led growth -- universal child allowances, reimbursement of public school expenses, abolition of road taxes and income support for farming households etc. It probably won't have an effect before 2011, though. So growth may take a hit the first part of next year but hopefully be mitigated with an increase in export demand from China & the US. :relief:
Astroboy
Oct 30, 2009, 20:16
The fund management organization of Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama overstated its income from the sale of tickets to fund-raising parties, according to sources.
Yuai Seikei Konwa-kai (fraternity association of politics and economics) listed ticket sales of 248 million yen for five years through 2008, but the actual amounts recorded in its account books were much lower, the sources said.
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200910280144.html
Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama may have violated the Political Fund Control Law by not reporting rent for his private office in Tokyo's Nagatacho district, The Asahi Shimbun has learned. http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200910260086.html
Disguised donations 'almost 200 million yen'
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200910260065.html
In short, Japan's new PM Hatomaya is laden with political slush fund. He may be able to escape the questions about party fund raising for months but cannt escape forever.
Mr You & I (Hatoyama) resignation may be earlier than I except. :okashii:
Dogen Z
Oct 30, 2009, 21:19
In short, Japan's new PM Hatomaya is laden with political slush fund. He may be able to escape the questions about party fund raising for months but cannt escape forever.
Mr You & I (Hatoyama) resignation may be earlier than I except. :okashii:
Not with the huge public support he has. He's in touch with the public and people like the direction he's taking Japan. If they trust his judgement, they will give him some latitude for small indescretions.
Astroboy
Oct 30, 2009, 21:26
Not with the huge public support he has. He's in touch with the public and people like the direction he's taking Japan. If they trust his judgement, they will give him some latitude for small indescretions.
Donations of 2 million yen is not a small money. Hatomaya's secretary used lots of names as donators, but almost listed names were Fake. Those listed name persons say "I didn't make any donation to him".
SO WHO is true donators ? WHY his secretary used fake names ? Answer is obvious, I think.
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