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Gaki
Oct 12, 2003, 02:57
Just an observation i've made lately, that some Japanese girls have really bent teeth...

Dont they have braces in Japan ?

Kinda thought since alot of them are quite vain they would at least fix their teeth instead of buying a Gucci bag...

Oh and before someone starts moaning at me about how every Japanese person they know has straight teeth, i'm talking about the ones with bent teeth ok ?

kirei_na_me
Oct 12, 2003, 03:03
:D

I noticed the same thing, Gaki. My husband once told me that they thought a crooked tooth in the front was "cute". You know, like the canine/eye tooth sticking out. I once asked my husband why didn't they get that fixed, and he was like "oh, it's so cute".

I thought it was really interesting. Especially after my parents spent a lot of money on not one, but on two sets of braces for me. I think they think braces aren't necessary. Only if their teeth are so crooked they can't function, will they actually put braces on their teeth. I know, I know...difficult to understand. Difficult for me to understand too.

Also, I've noticed a lot of their teeth are bad, not just crooked. Of all the Japanese people I've known, almost every single one had a mouth completely full of crowns, fillings, all of that stuff. I sometimes tell my husband he has Terminator teeth, because almost all of his teeth in his mouth are silver except for maybe the front 6 on the top and the bottom. I have often wondered why their teeth were so bad. Is it the diet maybe?

Gaki
Oct 12, 2003, 03:07
It's cute ? O_o;;

Kinda scares me when you see a really cute girl then she smiles and *POW* crooked teeth (O_O;; )

Each to his/her own i suppose ^^;

kirei_na_me
Oct 12, 2003, 03:08
Originally posted by Gaki
It's cute ? O_o;;

Kinda scares me when you see a really cute girl then she smiles and *POW* crooked teeth (O_O;; )

Each to his/her own i suppose ^^;

Yeah, that's what I thought too, but yeah...each to their own...

den4
Oct 12, 2003, 04:01
dentists in Japan are quacks...when I was there, I've had many unnecessary dental work done just to have a check up, and many of them are like dental assistants rather than actual dentists....took this one dentist and hour and a half to try to remove one wisdom tooth I had and he only managed to get only the top crown section off...had another one scrape off the crown so he could put a filling in, when there was nothing wrong with the tooth (did that to at least 5 of my teeth I found out later)...and there is no preventative care done in Japan, so you go to them only after you have cavities...think the J-dentist scene is at least 30 years behind the US...especially in the ethical dept... :(

yeah, US dentists may charge more, but if you find a good one, they are worth it!

Tiger
Oct 12, 2003, 04:29
Leaving aside the comments on dental treatment (for many years it has lagged behind other developed countries, but things are getting a lot better), yes it is something of a cultural thing. The perfect, straight white smile isn't considered so important in Japan. And yes, many people consider teeth that stick out to be kinda cute!

Tiger.

mdchachi
Oct 12, 2003, 06:00
Just to clarify, "crooked" teeth are not cute in Japan. It's the "yaeba" or double canine that's considered cute and only if it's not too extreme. Otherwise it becomes an "oniba" (devil's tooth or fang).

Kind of like how some people find a small gap between the front teeth (like Arnold Schwarzenegger's) to be cute.

http://www.megaegg.ne.jp/~nohohon/ortho/1.jpg

x2468
Oct 12, 2003, 06:21
ya that was one of the first things i noticed when i saw some pics of tokyo and the ppl there. also my step-dads, aunt had two japanese teachers from okinawa staying with here to learn english in the school. and they had crooked teeth two. i was thinking why doesn't such an industrialized nation have better dental care. but nowi kno they think its cute, so huh all i can do i scratch my head.

and wat exactly do u mean by "yaeba" or double canine, cuz i think i have that very very slightly.

mdchachi
Oct 12, 2003, 08:30
The yaeba/double-tooth is a tooth where the canine overlaps with another tooth and sticks out slightly. (Like in the picture I included earlier.) They're not both canine teeth.

den4
Oct 12, 2003, 13:55
is that why Nakayama Miho has that cute look? :D

neko_girl22
Oct 12, 2003, 18:32
yeah I noticed their teeth too. I suppose if they're happy with them and they don't cause problems eating, it's saving them a lot of money! ;)
I always complained my canine (??) is kinda vampirish but here they tell me it's cute..... but I'm lucky besides that and haven't had to have braces - wow that's expensive!!
I REALLY don't want to go to the dentist here because I've heard many horror stories plus Japan isn't big on pain killers -ouch

ghettocities
Oct 12, 2003, 22:06
I think it's hot, you know what I find really hot? I was at the grocery store yesterday and this Japanese girl in front of me had this mini-skirt on, ok the mini-skirt wasen't what I found to be hot, but you know what I did find realllly hot? She had bruises all over her legs, I was sooooooo turned on by that, it's kinda messed up if I think about it but yeah I don't care about the teeth because I'm not going after their faces half the time.

Josh

http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com

budd
Oct 17, 2003, 09:54
*waves away*
i saw this girl and she had the denim applejack hat, with the burgundy leather (pleather?) shaft jacket
and couldn't see her eyes
heads and shoulders taller than all of her friends that were talking to her rather animatedly, and she nodding in agreement
why wasn't she in a model shoot somewhere? could she have escaped notice? this is shibuya...

Kat
Oct 17, 2003, 10:53
I've also noticed this.

Honestly I don't think it looks that great but it's not really bad unless they're severly messed up. I wouldn't exactly want a guy with a totally crooked smile. :/ I guess if he was cute pretty much everywhere else though I could put up with it but I'd hope that one day he'd get braces to fix it.

Mandylion
Oct 17, 2003, 11:49
Asked someone once "when do you go to the dentist?" and the answer was "when it hurts." I also think braces for braces sake are a bad idea, but I do believe in regular cleanings. In a country that where people brush teeth religiously after every meal, you would think a bi-yearly trip to the dentist would not be so strange. Plus a good cleaning every now and then stops all that filling and crowning stuff, wisdom teeth come out before the root takes hold, and all sorts of other stuff gets taken care of. I guess it comes down to pain/wallet tollerance. It is cheaper to hurt, but you'll be happier healthy (and a bit poorer).

I don't think it is diet that messes up so many teeth here. I was weaned on the sugar foods of the US and have had only one cavity filled. I also visited the dentist about once every eight months for cleaning and check-ups. My girlfriend has had about 6 cavities, doesn't like sweet foods, and only goes to the dentist if you drag her there. It may have something to do with quack dentists like Den4 came across.

The problem with those teeth that stick out is they can be really hard to clean behind, damaging the other teeth, and resulting in major work when it needs to come out around age 30. Major, painful work.

Want to live like a king/queen in Japan? Become a dentist and convice housewives they need to get their family regular cleanings i.e. start the next health fad. You will have as much job security as grave diggers (or rather crematorium workers).

ViciousBrutality
Oct 17, 2003, 16:31
well really braces are a very american thing, tooth care is an insane scam. And by tooth care I mean braces and such. It is just strange that we do such things and pay thousands of dollars for braces because most countries in the world (and i mean the developed ones) do not use braces most of the time. It is just a stupid scam, but I'm not one to talk because I never needed braces so I don't know what its like.

Mashu
Oct 17, 2003, 20:42
Orthodontics is a horrible field. I got my braces off 6 months ago, which at times are horribly painful and inhibit your eating of solids for a few days. Now they want me to wear a retainer so my teeth don't move back to their original position. Now this makes sense and is very logical but in all seriousness, a HUGE pain in the ass. Being one bent on the hedonist, academic lifestyle, I did what felt best, didn't wear the retainer. Now I must go back to the orthodontist every 3 months, which I dread, and get a huge guilt trip of how my parents spent thousands of dollars and now its just all going down the hole and my teeth will just move back to their original position. Well let me say, their original position wasn't a horrible problem to begin with, we were just convinced they were. So now as my teeth minutely migrate crooked again because of my lack in "dedication", I feel guilty for my laziness but this is also complimented by anger whcih I feel towards the orthodontic medicine. I mean, yea, some people really need braces and you grimace when you see their face ;) but Americans are just a little too gungho on the whole idea. While in Japan I did notice a great need for orthodontics though. I noticed very few with straight teeth, but many, much more then America, who had durastically over-crooked teeth.

kirei_na_me
Oct 17, 2003, 21:41
I would agree with you, Vicious Brutality, in that orthodontics is a big money-making business. It can definitely be crooked, so to speak, just like anything else.

Take me, for instance. I got my first set of braces on when I was just 11 years old. My orthodontist knew they would only be on a couple of years to correct my teeth, which weren't so bad. Well, at 13 when they came off, I (like many others) had not finished growing by a longshot! Of course, being the way that I was(and am still), I did not wear my retainer like I should have when they came off and they then shifted. Well, he then talked us into getting them one more time(because I didn't wear my retainer properly, of course), so I had braces on my teeth almost my entire junior high/high school career. Which roughly cost about $4,000, I would say.

Of course, it wound up that all of that was done in vain. I was racing on my bike one day, fell off, and knocked 2 of my front teeth out and wound up having to get about $5,000 worth of dental work to replace the teeth that we had worked so hard to straighten out. Très ironique, n'est-ce pas?

budd
Jan 20, 2004, 08:15
hey, is fluoride in the water over there? i've seen vitamins for sale, but i haven't seen anybody taking them (but if they are for sale, someone is buying them, yes i know :))
what about the diet in general?

SacredBlue
Jan 20, 2004, 08:18
Hmm I dunno about fluoride..I wouldn't bet on it..Even though this is from awhile ago I pretty much agree with Josh, some girls with teeth like that look pretty damn cute.

Jean-Francois
Jan 20, 2004, 12:28
Under the American influence, Japanese people 's taste in beautiful look is changing. In the 80s, most Japanese T.V. stars had crooked teeth. Nowadays, popular actresses like Kyoko Fukada, Nanako Matsushima, Rena Tenaka and numerous others "begin" to have straight teeth. Although the American-born Utada Hikaru apparently didn't get her teeth fixed in some photos. Her teeth is straightened by the computer in most of her pictures. Therefore, I think Japanese people will soon pick up the trend.

Matthew C. Perry
Jan 20, 2004, 12:53
The tooth problem is a genetic thing. For some reason the Japanese evolved a tendancy toward having mouths that are too small to contain all their teeth. I wonder why.

budd
Jan 20, 2004, 12:58
my friends that moved here have pretty straight looking teeth
but they only go when/if they have a toothache? so its not like they're being fixed here?
i want to think about the last two posts for a bit, hmm

okaeri_man
Jan 20, 2004, 13:52
as for the fluoride thing, im not sure whats exactly in the water, but i remember there being some talk a year or two ago about adding more chemicals to their tap water. i remember japanese tap water was pretty damn nice - 100 times better than the tap water in my city, which could pass for weak swimming pool water.

Originally posted by Jean-Francois
..American-born Utada Hikaru apparently didn't get her teeth fixed in some photos. Her teeth is straightened by the computer in most of her pictures. Therefore, I think Japanese people will soon pick up the trend.
you think japanese people will pick up on the trend of digitally getting the teeth straightened??? interesting...

nihonjintaylor
Jan 20, 2004, 14:57
yeah... my wife has crooked teeth too (Japanese wife so it fits the topic) anyways, her mom told me that she wanted her to get braces but left it up to my wife to decide (this is when she was really young) and since she was small she didn't like the dentist and told her mom no, and her mom said well you will end up with bad teeth, and she was like "I don't care"

ohh well.. It happens. Hopefully I can get her in there to fix them sometime....

I prefer straight teeth... but it's not all I look for either...

MikeM
Jan 21, 2004, 14:32
My teeth are very straight... I just have a crossbite.

Do braces help crossbites as well because I am reaching 2 years almost and my crossbite seems to still be here but my teeth are all so much straighter... only a slight crossbite anyways.

Ah... we have to wear retainer after I get these braces off? I don't want any more of this! :(

LOL.

Yeah, my Japanese friend has crooked teeth. It doesn't really bother me but when I first saw her smile I noticed it a bit but I just got used to it.

EscaFlowne
Jan 22, 2004, 04:20
Originally posted by nzueda
yeah I noticed their teeth too. I suppose if they're happy with them and they don't cause problems eating, it's saving them a lot of money! ;)
I always complained my canine (??) is kinda vampirish but here they tell me it's cute..... but I'm lucky besides that and haven't had to have braces - wow that's expensive!!
I REALLY don't want to go to the dentist here because I've heard many horror stories plus Japan isn't big on pain killers -ouch

Mine are vampirish!!!:D My moms is always talking bout be away vamp for get my cross!! For J-women i guess its really whateva floats there boat.;)

Kimota
Jan 22, 2004, 05:42
Originally posted by SacredBlue
Hmm I dunno about fluoride..I wouldn't bet on it..Even though this is from awhile ago I pretty much agree with Josh, some girls with teeth like that look pretty damn cute.

I'm not sure if it's the teeth that make those girls cute.:)

My wife's Japanese and her teeth are straight along with the teeth of most everyone in her family. About two-thirds of the people I knew in Japan had crooked teeth, though. For some people the look works and for some people it doesn't.

Ahazmaksya
Jan 23, 2004, 17:25
I much prefer straight teeth, i agree with the person who said its a shock when you see a really pretty girl, then she smiles and WAM! teeth going left right and centre! Nop, not for me...

Ghost
Jan 23, 2004, 17:53
Originally posted by Ahazmaksya
I much prefer straight teeth, i agree with the person who said its a shock when you see a really pretty girl, then she smiles and WAM! teeth going left right and centre! Nop, not for me...



I have met someone like that too, I was nice-and-all but on the inside I was saying "THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELLS YOU, THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELLS YOU"

:evil:

but I aint much to look at, so....eh whatever comes my way is good enough(hey, im not shallow).

Elgin
Jan 23, 2004, 23:17
I was just thinking of this in Japanese class yesterday. I was checking out my teacher and she`s pretty hot but damn she needs to get those teeth fix. If those were straiten she would be mint.

RockLee
May 31, 2004, 09:23
I think in some cased the Canine thing is Très Kawaii( mixing up languages, as the lingu I am :D ) but In some cases it's UGLY...Oh yeah....here in Belgium braces are cheap LOL...and we get our teeth checked 2 times a year :cool: ....AND....hehe yeah yeah....we have a health plan so we pay much but get A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY back from it...The only thing I love bout this country :blush:

michi
May 31, 2004, 09:36
I have often wondered why their teeth were so bad.

My dentist says that oriental people's jaws are smaller than others yet our teeth are the same size, so most times it's a tight fit!

My mom has naturally straight teeth, but they're very close together, so everytime she flosses, her gums bleed.

My front two teeth are crooked, but I don't intend on getting braces. Don't really mind the imperfection.

kirei_na_me
May 31, 2004, 09:40
That's interesting, michi. I have never heard that theory before.

My husband's teeth are naturally straight too. His front teeth look perfect. If he smiles really big, though, you can see nothing but silver from the canine teeth on back because of crowns and fillings. His teeth were in terrible shape before he came to the U.S.

You know, I wouldn't have minded the imperfection in my teeth either. It would've saved my parents a lot of money(that just wound up being wasted, because of that wreck), and I wouldn't have the problems that I do now, like TMJ(temporomandibular joint disorder).

Lina Inverse
May 31, 2004, 09:48
I really don't care much about teeth... there are much more important things on a girl.
My teeth are relatively straight, I'd say, never had to wear braces.

dadako
May 31, 2004, 10:51
I like yaeba.

on my wall at here in my front room is a 6ft tall picture I made, she has yaeba (its a print of this (http://hawken.dadako.com/skillset.illustration.php?page=yukida)

DaMo
May 31, 2004, 11:03
I think it has something to do with the teeth being too big for the jaws. :p

Brooker
May 31, 2004, 11:37
I've always been a big fan of a straight smile and was a little shocked when I first got to Japan, but got used to it pretty quickly. Americans are pretty hard core about straight teeth. I remember hearing Japanese people accusing Westerners of being obsessed with their teeth. It's all about the expectations of your culture. In England a perfect smile isn't as important and that's why SOME English people have messed up teeth (sorry if I've offended anyone, but it's true). Having good teeth takes a lot of work and you're not going to bother to do it unless something is really motivating you (or your parents).

I heard that one of the reasons Japanese people have bad teeth is because there's salt in their toothpaste, but I don't know if that's true.

Keiichi
May 31, 2004, 13:22
I don't find it that bad, though it does become noticeable and I do admit that some of it are cute. Though I think it still doesn't beat straight teeth. Having things even kinda looks better. I'm sure most would probably think that a person with even sized eyes looks better than one with a large and a small one. ^^''

RockLee
May 31, 2004, 19:37
like this °_O ??? :p :D ....Some ppl look just cute with uneven teeth ..seen some of the girls from Morning Musume ??? Or Hikaru Utada..??? They are so damn hot....even if their teeth are a bit of :cute:

Buddha Smoker
May 31, 2004, 21:53
But if you're an American with bad teeth then you'll fit right it...Just Kidding...I've always had bad teeth and I was always a bit ashamed in the States but in Japan nobody cares as much so it's nice to fit in...so to speak. :D

Keiichi
Jun 1, 2004, 03:09
Good for you, then. :D
Eri Kamei from Morning Musume looks pretty cute with that tooth sticking out. I think she has a adoring smile with that. :p

budd
Jun 3, 2004, 01:41
i've met a lot of taiwanese and mainland in the past few weeks (since new years celebration) and NOW i think op was just trying to bash or something on the sly :(
"It's all about the expectations of your culture."
that's it! totally right
well i agree with it anyway :)

Lina Inverse
Jun 3, 2004, 07:31
But if you're an American with bad teeth then you'll fit right it...Just Kidding...I've always had bad teeth and I was always a bit ashamed in the States but in Japan nobody cares as much so it's nice to fit in...so to speak. :D
Well, mine aren't all that great either... it's good to know that I'd fit right in :D

Gaki
Jun 3, 2004, 08:16
In England a perfect smile isn't as important and that's why SOME English people have messed up teeth (sorry if I've offended anyone, but it's true).


Never understood why Americans think the British have bad teeth ?
Americans just bombard their teeth with too many whitening chemicals :P

:balloon:

Golgo_13
Jun 3, 2004, 09:36
So that's another thing Japan has in common with Britain.

Bad dental hygiene.

As for the toxic fluoride,

http://www.wholywater.com/fluoride.html

Koppi
Jun 3, 2004, 10:28
[QUOTE=RockLee]like this °_O /QUOTE]
My side hurts.

Ooo. :relief:

At first when I saw the crooked teeth thing, a wee voice inside me screamed, "HOLY JESUS CHRIST!" but then I got more into it, now I think the crookedness is sexay.

Especially on this guy...http://www.kyo-connection.com/gallery/05/xx2.jpg

:blush: