J-women vs Chinese women [Archive]

Kay

Nov 3, 2003, 08:35

"Japanese women are alot more better looking than Chinese women in my opinion." <--- what the heck! Oh yeah, Chinese women don't like to do pratise surgery and enlarge the breast. Does it count "more pretty"?

"Faces on Chinese actresses are flatter and not as pretty as the Japanese" <--- haha! that's only one Japanese actress and one Chinese actress in the world!

"Faces on Japanese actresses are thin and round, and are prettyer then the chinese." <--- at least I know one Japanese actress is not like that!

V.I.B

Nov 6, 2003, 04:06

Most ridiculous comparisions ever come across! Full of wrong information, one-sided POVs & stereotyping.. he's at least wise enough to label it as "controversial site" and not something.. (x_x")

Japanese actresses have more voluptous figures. Chinese actresses have thinner more athletic figures. <~~ Is he referring to just e 2 actresses on his page or .. *chokes* Someone should just give him 1 long list of Chinese actresses with voluptous figures~ at least I knew a few..

Faces on Japanese actresses are thin and round, and are prettyer then the chinese <~~ "thin and round".. what a nice contradicting way to describe a feature.. O.o||b

Both have narrow eyes. Both have a light beige skin color. Both are naturaly born with dark black straight hair and dark black eyes. <~~ Now, now, isn't it more obvious this guy dun bother with research.. It's pure stereotyping! Since when do all chinese have "narrow eyes", "light beige skin color", "dark black straight hair" and dark black eyes"?! (+_+;>)

Carolgirl00

Nov 6, 2003, 07:14

Ugh. That website was just rediculous. -_-

What do you ppl on this board think of Chinese? I mean, I know this is a Japan forum and all, but I'm just wondering about your opinion. Japanese culture is more popular and 'cool' in the US, so I think most americans (white usually) have not much of an opinion on Chinese culture or think it's weird. =\

Mr. Manji

Nov 6, 2003, 12:16

WOW, that was 2 mins of my life i will never get back :p but atleast it was a good laugh

personally I think the chinese are great! I don't agree with their government, but their culture is just as intresting as that of the japanese though I have never really "gotten into it" like I have with japanese culture because I haven't found many things that really draws me into it (like anime for example). also they have delicious food :p

bossel

Nov 7, 2003, 09:41

Well, Chinese, just like other peoples, are diverse.
But in general, it seems they are a bit more superstitious than Westerners. They easier believe in hear-say & (urban) legends & have a stronger tendency to fall for good rhetorics instead of looking at the facts behind.

Oh, & although they have a nominally Communist party in control many of them are strongly nationalist. So strong a nationalist sentiment in Germany would be considered right-wing extremist.

Just speaking of the PRC, don't know so much about Taiwan.

kirei_na_me

Nov 7, 2003, 10:12

The Japanese can be very superstitious too. I have always been amazed at how they can be such a technologically advanced country, but still be so backward as far as superstitions go.

This one Japanese friend of mine says that the pen*s festival looks like something that should be taking place in some remote tribe living around the Amazon, but instead, it's right in the middle of a wealthy, technologically advanced country.

ragedaddy

Nov 9, 2003, 18:04

I think that a lot of the Japanese popularity in the US has to do with video games, anime, and the technological advancements. I myself, don`t know that much about the Chinese culture, so that makes me want to learn more in regards to China. I think that with movies such as "Croutching Tiger Hidden Dragon", "Iron Monkey", and other martial art movies starring actors and actresses such as Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Zhang Ziyi, etc., might spark some interest about Chinese culture for Americans. I am a fan of these sorts of movies, but I guess I`m really not sure on that matter about Americans not being interested in the Chinese culture.
In fact, some people that I know are not really interested in other cultures, which is pretty sad. They are missing out on a plethora of wonderful things.

The guy who made that web page must have been smoking rocks or something. Not only was the focus of his topic lame, but he was totally lacking evidence or sources to even back his arguement. I hope he didn`t make this for a class project, because I think a Jr. High student could put together a better argument.

Uncle Frank

Nov 10, 2003, 02:42

After hearing for 50 years that China is our enemy, it's hard to think of ever being in a relationship similar to Japan & US.

Frank

ViciousBrutality

Nov 10, 2003, 08:24

Well I agree with this guy, Japanese PEOPLE (not only women) do have slightly different facial features, which it seems it very difficult for many westerners to catch on too. It appears to me that koreans have darker skin and a flatter facial structure, mandarin chinese people always appear to have a slightly flatter face than the Japanese but the same skin color. The catonese chinese people tend to have darker skin and the same facial structure. The have a similar facial structure to the mandarin chinese except a little bit rounder. This is just an observation that was actually brought to my attention by my chinese friend. I come from a town with many Asian kids and I can usually tell which country they or their relatives originated from. Although there are times when its different, sometimes Japanese people will be darker or have a flatter face, or all different combinations. They are all the same race but I agree with the kid who made the website about the different facial features. Also, he made a perfectly harmless observation about the roles of women in Japanese and Chinese movies. Of course it is not always true, just sometimes. And personally even though this website is a big waste of time, all it does is help destroy that ignorance of people who will call chinese people japanese, or korean, or whatever they guess and visa versa. It seems that most americans think that Chinese and Japanese cultures and languages are exactly the same when infact they're very different. This person is only showing that these are two different countries, not one giant one.

sango

Nov 10, 2003, 19:39

While it's true that Asians from different geographical areas have slightly different physical features (but not different enough to give you a very accurate guess), I don't think it's appropriate to separate these features based on nationality. For example, Koreans look exactly the same as the Chinese people who live close to Korea (in the North- central China region). Chinese people themselves look different from each other. Northern Chinese look different from southern Chinese. They're taller, darker, and have flatter faces (look more Mongolian, I guess). Southern Chinese people look more like Japanese: they're shorter and have rounder faces.
I can usually tell whether a person is from Northern China or not. But I can never tell the Koreans from the Chinese just by looking at them. Although I can sometimes guess whether a person is Japanese or not, I easiliy get them mixed up with people from southern China, such as Hong Kong, etc.

Gaki

Nov 11, 2003, 09:14

Why dont u people just say Chinese people are all yellow and wear funny straw hats and walk around saying "ah sou ah sou ah sou"....

The whole argument between who looks like what is stupid.

There is no one way for a race to look like....I've seen Japanese people with flat faces....but oh wait they dont have flat faces do they must just be Chinese people *rolls eyes*

ViciousBrutality

Nov 11, 2003, 09:54

Gaki, Thats NOT what I'm saying, i frequenly said "TEND TO HAVE". Not all chinese people have such flat faces, not all southern chinese people are darker. It seems to me that it is COMMON for chinese people to have flatter faces than the japanese. Not ALL the time. It is the same with all races, white people are sometimes darker or lighter than average. Hispanic people as well, africans, middle-eastern people, they all have SLIGHT (you know, teeny, tiny little, insignificant) differences. It is nothing distinct, just sligh differences. I am making no comment on which looks prettier for that is a matter of opinion.

As for Sango, I was only making an approximation. My THEORY is not always true, infact it is not true. It is just a guess, it is mostly a geographical thing rather than national. But national is an easier way to put it. Sometimes you can tell the difference between Koreans and the Chinese because the people who have immigrated are usually(VERY USUALLY) from South Korea. I can usually tell the difference between the two because koreans tend to have a flatter face, it is not alway accurate.

ragedaddy

Nov 11, 2003, 10:40

Well, it is pretty common knowledge that not all asian ethnicities have the same facial and body features. That isn`t the debate here in this case, what Mr. Andrew Santos is trying to imply is that his opinion qualifies as being a fact. Andrew is not trying to prove that Chinese girls have different features than Japanese girls, but in fact he is trying to prove they are better looking based on his lacking evidence. Of course, everybody is entitled to their opinion, but when they start trying to claim your own personal preference as being the truth, that is when things start to get skewed.

That`s fine if Mr. Andrew has an infatuation with Japanese girls, and if that is the case he is better off making a deidication page to them, instead of trying to compare them to other girls and saying that they are superior. I mean there would be people on the other side of the stick saying that Chinese girls are better looking than Japanese girls. It is all about personal preference, and when people start trying to pass their beliefs off as facts, that is when people start to get upset. This stuff happens all the time whether it`s religion, politics, or whatever. However, Mr. Andrew`s webpage is strictly opinion, and cannot be looked at as being a fact, that Japanese girl`s are more beautiful than Chinese. Just remember, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so everyone has their own likes and dislikes, but that is strictly their opinion.

kirei_na_me

Nov 11, 2003, 10:58

Very nicely put, ragedaddy... :cool:

AranzA

Nov 12, 2003, 19:32

How can you differentiate between Japanese and Chinese, they all look alike,, to me! :eek:

ragedaddy

Nov 16, 2003, 13:30

Originally posted by kirei_na_me
Very nicely put, ragedaddy... :cool:

Thanks, kirei na me, I try my best!:wave:

Originally posted by Aranza
How can you differentiate between Japanese and Chinese, they all look alike,, to me! :eek:

Hmmm, I am definitely not an expert on this, but it seems like people from Asian countries can differentiate nationalities pretty well. From what I have heard, there are distinctions in the shapes of faces as well as the style of clothes, and so people can usually identify others by those characteristics. I can distinguish a little bit, but I am not that great at doing that.

Carolgirl00

Nov 17, 2003, 05:46

Originally posted by AranzA
How can you differentiate between Japanese and Chinese, they all look alike,, to me! :eek:

Hmm...I think most ppl who say things like that just aren't familiar with those ethnicities, ie Chinese + Japanese. I mean who knows, maybe asians say the same thing about whites. Although a swedish + italian might look completely different to you, they might state the same thing you just said. =/

CGPGroup

Nov 17, 2003, 22:30

I thought we all decided that this guy is a ***** and that we are all going to move on?? lol

Shigatsu

Nov 17, 2003, 23:27

That's just stupid..
we all know that Koreans are the best looking. hehe.:clap:

EscaFlowne

Nov 18, 2003, 01:38

:blush: koreans are pretty cute too...

:)

Swifty

Nov 18, 2003, 01:54

That is True

and Phillipinos too :D

Swifty

Nov 18, 2003, 01:55

sorry for double post XD
but I cant seem to delete this

oh well

GO J-GIRLS!!!! WOOOO

I meet one yesterday at my fav sushi restaurant

she was very nice ^_^
and now I have a date with her :D

GO SWIFTY!!!!

den4

Nov 18, 2003, 03:09

how to spot a Japanese tourist from Chinese or Korean tourists? :D

Simple: Japanese tourists will be speaking Japanese and will never admit they can speak Engrish or English :D They will also shy away from direct contact with natives in their own country, still calling these natives gaijin, even if the J-folks are the gaijin when they are tourists. :D
J-tourists may go on mad shopping sprees in other countries not because they are rich, but because of the mad obsession with omiyage fever that hits them which at times seems more important than their supposed reason for going to that country, ie rest and relaxation :D

Korean or Chinese tourists will speak either in their native tongue or in English or Engrish or broken English and never shy away from direct contact with gaijin, even if they are the ones that are gaijin in a foreign land :D

qchan

Nov 18, 2003, 11:08

Try the test of http://www.alllooksame.com ! ;)

I'm Japanese and I thought I could distinguish between Chinese, Korean and Japanese by their face, but now I have no confidence. There's photo of 18 Chinese, Korean and Japanese people, and I only could answer 5 person correctly...:eek:

Sometimes I can tell just from his/her face (if he/she has typical one), but I think most time I differentiate nationalities of these three countries by hair style, clothes and movement.

qchan

Nov 18, 2003, 11:49

Oops. "All Look Same" was already introduced in here...:sorry:
http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=680

AranzA

Nov 18, 2003, 15:05

YAY,, I got five pics right ^_____^ ,, thanx for the link, gchan

CGPGroup

Nov 18, 2003, 23:24

wow I got 10 right and I am black....LOL

teardrop

Nov 19, 2003, 00:01

Hmm... a very interesting discussion going on here. I'm a Chinese but a SINGAPOREAN Chinese, so i tend to find this interesting. Reason why i wanna bold Singapore is because whenever i tell people i'm chinese overseas, immediately, they will go something like "Oh! You are from China!" Arghh.... somehow i feel offended because i'm not from China and chinese do not just come from China.
Well, Chinese, just like other peoples, are diverse.
But in general, it seems they are a bit more superstitious than Westerners. They easier believe in hear-say & (urban) legends & have a stronger tendency to fall for good rhetorics instead of looking at the facts behind.
Well... i don't necessary agree with this cos i think it's more of a generation difference rather than of race or ethnicity. The Westerners have their fair share of urban legends and supersition as well. (Think Friday 13th, the black cat walking across your path...)

There is no one way for a race to look like....I've seen Japanese people with flat faces....but oh wait they dont have flat faces do they must just be Chinese people *rolls eyes*
Ya i agree with you Gaki, but there always a stereotyped look for every race i guess. When i go abroad, i always get mistaken by people as Japanese and when i start speaking to them in English, telling them i'm not Japanese but am from Singapore, they give the surprise look. And then they go "oh... but you have big eyes and you are fair..." ya... so i guess that's the impression that most people have of Japanese women?The funny thing is that even Japanese themselves think i'm Japanese. When i was Japan, i was often mistaken as native and even those Japanese exchange students who came to Singapore have thought that i was one of them.So ... i guess when you are a chinese, it sort of adds to your 'invisibility' in Japan to a certain extent because our physical traits are similar.

How can you differentiate between Japanese and Chinese, they all look alike,, to me!
Well... i guess it's the way they dress that tells the most. However, with the spread of Japanese culture to other parts of Asia, a lot of chinese are picking up Japanese fashion so it becomes difficult to differentiate as well.

we all know that Koreans are the best looking. hehe.
Shigatsu & EscaFlowne, do you know that most Korean women have gone under the knife? Cosmetic surgery is like going to the facials for them, although i must say there's a general increase in the number of women going under the knife to enhance their looks world wide. Still, Koreans stand the majority. (not meant to offend anyone here. Just speaking generally.)

Shigatsu

Nov 19, 2003, 00:16

Wow. I did terrible on that quiz...now I feel dumb. : /
But, goes to show you...I guess that's why everyone always asks if I'm half Japanese...Koreans and Japanese look a little alike....well, to me anyway.

Shigatsu

Nov 19, 2003, 00:19

Originally posted by teardrop
Shigatsu & EscaFlowne, do you know that most Korean women have gone under the knife? Cosmetic surgery is like going to the facials for them, although i must say there's a general increase in the number of women going under the knife to enhance their looks world wide. Still, Koreans stand the majority. (not meant to offend anyone here. Just speaking generally.) [/B]

I was just saying that 'cause I'm korean.
And who cares if more are going into Cosmetic surgery? so do Japanese, Caucasians, Chinese....you name it. It's all about who has the money and who wants to be purdy.

EscaFlowne

Nov 19, 2003, 00:43

Tooo me thats sad. Even though a cute face is a cute face.

I'm a man who really actually loves personality, inner beauty if you will, humor, how fiesty(thier attitude not sexual energy.....yet that too :cool: ) they are. And i love something new: culture, a hobby they have, just something that will make me smile cuz i never had interest in it before i met her.....Hmmmmm well iguess i talked to much :bluush: i will just stop:blush:
meep!

CGPGroup

Nov 19, 2003, 18:35

Just out of curiosity...Why is it when a person is born outside of China to chinese parents, that person is considered Chinese and not a national of whatever country they are born in. for example teardrop mentioned earlier that he was born in Singapore but he is chinese, he also mentioned that not all Chinese people come from China. Why is it that he/she does not consider himself/herself Singaporean? If everybody did this then their would be no such thing as American.

AranzA

Nov 19, 2003, 18:36

Originally posted by EscaFlowne
Tooo me thats sad. Even though a cute face is a cute face.

I'm a man who really actually loves personality, inner beauty if you will, humor, how fiesty(thier attitude not sexual energy.....yet that too :cool: ) they are. And i love something new: culture, a hobby they have, just something that will make me smile cuz i never had interest in it before i met her.....Hmmmmm well iguess i talked to much :bluush: i will just stop:blush:
meep!

:blush:

Ahem,, what exactly are you talking about? ^_^;

AranzA

Nov 19, 2003, 18:39

Anyway, whether they look the same or not, I think they r very attractive =^.^=

EscaFlowne

Nov 19, 2003, 22:41

0_o *slaps hisself in the forehead* :auch: :p

I was just saying that when a chick goes under the knife to look purrdy...its sad because there are far more other beautys in a woman...:relief:

jeisan

Nov 19, 2003, 22:58

Originally posted by CGPGroup
Just out of curiosity...Why is it when a person is born outside of China to chinese parents, that person is considered Chinese and not a national of whatever country they are born in. for example teardrop mentioned earlier that he was born in Singapore but he is chinese, he also mentioned that not all Chinese people come from China. Why is it that he/she does not consider himself/herself Singaporean? If everybody did this then their would be no such thing as American.

i think its more of a cultural/race identity rather than an nationality. when people ask me what i am i will tell them german, irish, blah blah nearly the rest of europe etc. because the american part is a given.

EscaFlowne

Nov 19, 2003, 23:16

Look at this though
my parents were in the navy
i was born in puerto rico
both my parents were born in Georgia(US)
Everybody claims i'm puerto rican?!?! yet my peoples say "your black"

:p :p :p :p
awwwwwwwwwww it soooo confusing. I just say i'm a puerto rican american.:) seems to be eaiser that way.

Gaki

Nov 19, 2003, 23:21

Originally posted by CGPGroup
Just out of curiosity...Why is it when a person is born outside of China to chinese parents, that person is considered Chinese and not a national of whatever country they are born in. for example teardrop mentioned earlier that he was born in Singapore but he is chinese, he also mentioned that not all Chinese people come from China. Why is it that he/she does not consider himself/herself Singaporean? If everybody did this then their would be no such thing as American.

In UK, Chinese people born here call ourselves B.B.C (British Born Chinese), i heard in Australia it's A.B.C (Australian Born Chinese).

It's kind of a frame of mentality Chinese people tend to have, to be proud of what you are and to be proud of your homeland wherever u might have been born.

teardrop

Nov 20, 2003, 11:50

Woah... i guess Gaki & Jeisan have given a good explanation. Just to add on.... Firstly, CGPGroup, i'm a 'she'. The chinese in Singapore do consider ourselves as singaporeans (from singapore) but it's just another layer of identification because ours is a multicultural society. So when you say you are a singaporean, it can mean that you are a chinese, malay, indian, or eurasians (of mixed parentage). So... ya... i agree with what Gaki has pointed out that "It's kind of a frame of mentality Chinese people tend to have, to be proud of what you are and to be proud of your homeland wherever u might have been born."

Uncle Frank

Aug 28, 2006, 06:40

Since we have several new Chinese members, lets run this one through again to discuss (keep it nice please).

Uncle Frank

:-)

ricecake

Aug 28, 2006, 07:31

The notable difference I see is J-women are still confined in traditional " female role " whereas Chinese counterparts are freed to do as they please include acting outwardly domineering and most no longer dutifully accept patronizing by their men.

There are some facial distinctions tell us apart,most Japanese and Chinese plus Koreans don't look alike with only a small fraction of these 3 populations might share facial features and physical built on possibility of ancestral or heritage tie.

Chinese women vary region to region for it's a continent of inter-mixed Mongoloid ethnicities,it would take me time to explain it as it's little complicated.

gaijinalways

Aug 30, 2006, 10:32

Chinese women also tend to have bigger breasts than Japanese women, not that I noiced?! I think the behaviour and language, as well as clothes, are more likely to clue one in as to someone's nationality. Then again, my wife and I got fooled by a rude Japanese sitting next to us on the plane.

On the same note of looks, I still get many people who guess my nationaility as German, Swedish, or Swiss. I am always sorry to disappoint them.

Pachipro

Aug 31, 2006, 01:55

There are some facial distinctions tell us apart,most Japanese and Chinese plus Koreans don't look alike with only a small fraction of these 3 populations might share facial features and physical built on possibility of ancestral or heritage tie.

Is it really that easy to tell Chinese from Koreans from Japanese? Why don't you take this test (http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680)and let us know your honest results. I'd be interested in knowing how well you do. It's really not that easy, especially when they dress modern. Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese often make the same mistakes when "guessing" the nationality of a particular person from said counrtries.

ArmandV

Aug 31, 2006, 02:18

I'm bad. Got a 3.

You're right, it isn't easy.

The "taste test" is easier. ;-)

ricecake

Aug 31, 2006, 04:37

Is it really that easy to tell Chinese from Koreans from Japanese ?

Great majority Western people CAN'T tell us apart,but we often can.

A few presented examples don't represent the average population of these 3 East Asian nationalities,especially the Chinese for it's now a generic race of inter-mixed Asia continental Mongoloids.A percentage of Northern Han Chinese share physical built and some distinctive facial features with Japanese and Koreans because their ancestors were either Nomadic-stock or Dong-Yi heritage.

All right,I can give you 2 examples of currently popular Korean and Japanese actresses LOOK VERY VERY Chinese.S Korean actress Lee Young Ae resembles a refined Northern Chinese beauty from Shangdong peninsula or Hebei province,and Japanese actress Asaka Seto ( with long straight-hair ) represents Southern Chinese ( Cantonese-looks ) beauty.

These 2 female individuals ARE NOT typical Japanese or Korean looks.

Majority Koreans have distinctive Mongol or Tungus facial features with a percentage look Northern Han Chinese.As for Japanese,most have Tungus or Siberian looks plus a percentage look Southern Han Chinese.

ricecake

Aug 31, 2006, 04:55

Chinese women also tend to have bigger breasts than Japanese women,not that I noiced ?!

Is this a revelation of someone's " wandering eyes " !?

China's coastal region mainly Jiangsu and Zhejiang provinces for it's favorable geographic climates bred some Chinese beauties ( majority of Japanese men in Japan who married to Chinese girls are from coastal citie Shanghai,Suzhou,and Hangzhou ) have soft-silky fair-skin plus slender built and mostly of ancient Dong-Yi heritage.

I've seen one article in a Japanese magazine,with young female Japanese models each has distinctive looks corresponded to a specific geographic region in Japan.

Damicci

Aug 31, 2006, 05:56

４ but I could care less about their ethnicity nor do i brag about being able to tell difference.

ricecake

Aug 31, 2006, 11:59

I still get many people who guess my nationaility as German, Swedish, or Swiss.I am always sorry to disappoint them.

European nationalities all look-a-like to Orientals,very few of us can tell you guys apart.

Nicholas Tse

Aug 31, 2006, 16:34

:? :? :? :? :? :? :?
I thought both were HUMAN...

nurizeko

Aug 31, 2006, 20:48

A hottie is a hottie.

yamada

Sep 1, 2006, 18:25

When a woman who bombed out a Korean Air Plane 858 was captured by the Bahrain authorities, both of the japanese authorities and the korean authorities could not distingush them.

nurizeko

Sep 2, 2006, 00:31

Seems fair, Asian is asian, there isnt actually any real difference between countries, I would assume in this case the differences are caused by different enviromental influences, rather then racial genetic ones.

In Europe the only real difference is skin-tone, because europe ranges from sub-polar to nearly the north coast of Africa AKA the sahara.

ricecake

Sep 2, 2006, 12:45

When a woman who bombed out a Korean Air Plane 858 was captured by the Bahrain authorities,both japanese and korean authorities could not distingush her.

In this case,she most likely has distinctive Tungusic-look (sharp long thin flat face with round little bittie eyes) which is common among Japanese and Koreans.Korean-American actress Sandra Oh comes to mind for a live example.

My brother in-law is 1/2 Manchu blood with extended flat face and little round bittie eyes,he can always pass as either Japanese or Korean.His paternal ancestry can trace to ancient Tungus-Jurchens/Mongol-Xian Bei nomadic clans once roamed old Manchuria.He has a rare Manchu family name in Kanji is same as Chinese currency " YUAN ",some Koreans have the identical Kanji surname as his but it's spell WON in English.

Dutch Baka

Sep 2, 2006, 15:29

Screaming voice vs Baby voice????

ricecake

Sep 3, 2006, 06:46

Screaming voice vs Baby voice ?

Among the Chinese women,most southern Chinese ( especially Cantonese ) girls talk loudly as it's like thunder to one's ears with few exceptional well mannered ones and Chinese girls in coastal provinces located south of Yangtze River are soft-spoken and feminine like,lastly the northern Chinese girls fall in between with one notable strictly regional common trait of explosive temper.

My limited observation of Japanese counterparts through personal contacts and Japanese TV doramas in northern California,they are either soft-spoken or anime-like voice.I've yet to meet a Japanese female yell aloud just to grab someone's attention.