what is so great abt hyde and gackt?

[hyde-sama]

this is what most fans fuss abt ... pls send ur polls and view like why and suggestion to improve it.

[nata_no]

First time heard Hyde - Evergreen, and I juz love the song!
As for the rest of the songs of Hyde and Gackt, think that they are not bad.

[Mrs. Camui]

I go for the voice. But I really don't like Hyde, only Gackt. Gackt's voice is so~~o great! Different, yet not strange. But Gackt's looks aren't bad either. He's a real cutie but I listen to the music because of the voice and the songs... I think. ;)

[perfect blue]

HYDE has a great voice and really wonderfull lyrics
he is some one that i will always look :D

[Eisuke]

I don't know Gackt much, but I think hyde sings very good and his songs mostly have good melodies and text.

[suzu]

why don't you have all of the above "^-^"
I'm not too sure about hyde but I like gackt alot. I love the lyrics to his songs most of them are beautiful and have meaning.......

[hyde-sama]

:p thamks for all the replies. do remember to poll as much as u like.... maybe start an exchange of information on gackt or hyde. domo arigato gozai masu.

[luna]

voice and lyrics!

Hyde has the best voice in this world 4 me, that was the 1st thing that called my atention about him so i willl go 4 the voice ^^
i like gackt but not that much....

[shrinkwrap]

all of the above, but mostly the music. I don't like hyde much but I love Gakkun, not only because he's hella talented and makes good music, but he's much sexy too. :D

[silver_ash86]

i chose talent... but i would choose meaning and emotion of song too... esp for hyde!!! gosh... that was such a tough question!!!

[hyde-sama]

opps... maybe if this program would allow five options.... i would have included an option called "" all of the above''.... haahaaa

[silver_ash86]

then wouldn't almost everyone choose that? haha

[Mrs. Camui]

Interesting to see that no one thinks the looks are THE most important thing. Though, I can't really say that it doesn't matter as well. :blush: Anyway, music counts!

[silver_ash86]

coz looks aren't the most important thing... yeah...

[Aikawa]

if i have to choose, i really would choose looks, cause i dun like hydes music, but he's a real cutie! :blush: but gackt~~~~ just perfect!! I think no one match him!!!! :D

[silver_ash86]

there u go... one vote for looks...

[Mrs. Camui]

Thanks, Aikawa! You just made my previous post useless! :D Anyway, I don't like Hyde's music either but he's still kinda cute. However, I don't listen to his music. Do you?
Silver_ash86, simply out of curiosity: Do you think looks don't matter at all?

[KyoKyo]

Aww man... Aikawa.. you the type of fan I hate. Your like one of those rapid J-music fans that only judge by looks. Enjoy them for their music not only for their looks.. God.. Seriously... get it together. Gackt has a beautiful voice and hyde is very unique and some of his music is okay. >.< :p :eek:

[Aikawa]

@ KyoKyo: Sorry if I sounded like that, I dun just love Gackt because of his looks! It was just my argument for wht I chose. :p
Did you read my thread in the forum: "does anybody like gackt?" ? there u can see how much I love his music, and many others, too. For me Gackt is a very talented, clever and cool man! :D

[hyde-sama]

kyokyo- san, asome of hyde or gackt fans in my other thread seem to talk abt En dir grey. i'm just curious wat's cool abt them. from pics, i can just say they have a cool way of presenting themselves...

anyway, jus to let u noe. when i first gotta noe hyde, it was by voice and his music so the lyrics and the talent would be wat makes me ::D

but for gackt, it was introduce by a friend who first showed me his webpage... so gackt's looks would be it, second to his voice.

:sigh too bad i can't vote more than once on my own poll.

[silver_ash86]

it matters only to a small extent... yup...

[silver_ash86]

oh when i first liked hyde... it wasn't looks either. the first pic i was of him, well, just didn't do him justice... it was the music and his voice that appealed to me...

[KyoKyo]

Originally posted by hyde-sama
kyokyo- san, asome of hyde or gackt fans in my other thread seem to talk abt En dir grey. i'm just curious wat's cool abt them. from pics, i can just say they have a cool way of presenting themselves...


Aww Dir en Grey. They are awesome very talented.. if you want to hear J-rock you listen to them. Kyo, the vocalist, has an amazing voice. He can do anything with it. Kaoru, lead guitar, writes almost all the music for the songs and man... is he good at it. Die, Shinya, Toshiya, great musicians. They have trumendous talent. I love them a bunch. They are also alot of fun to hear about. Kyo is a compulsive liar when it comes to media (he hates the media) so you cant really rely on his word when he is talking in an interview. hehe oh look I am rambling now. But yes. Dir en Grey sends a message out in each song they perform and they have great talent. ^_^;; Look my signiture is them. (I made it when I was bored)

[hyde-sama]

:bluush: hmm... sounds alot like L'Arc-en-ciel.... or lakura.
ya. that's cool... i feel i like hyde's music cuz it brings out a message too.... u noe, so unlike common love songs that repeats themselves.

:) yap...

[Ami]

Well, I like Gackt for his Talents. His music is great. But I say "looks" is just a Bonus. Hyde isn't too bad either but Gackt is just much more unique.

[destiny]

i like the voices of both of them very much, and also the lyrics...
i think they're both goodlooking, but that's definitely not the most important thing.

[M10]

hyde s voice is just cool !
and Gackt... I started to be a fan of him since I watched the Moon Child movie :o

by the way.. about Mrs Camui's attached image .. where is it from?
another Gackt's movie?

[Mrs. Camui]

Originally posted by M10
by the way.. about Mrs Camui's attached image .. where is it from?
another Gackt's movie?

I took a screenshot from the new Bujingai commercial. :wave:

[hyde-sama]

commercial? hmm.... i wander wat it's like..... too impatient to download....

[Mrs. Camui]

You can find the commercial from Bujingai's official website http://www.bujingai.com/
They're naturally on the download section. Have fun even though you are too impatient to download! ;)

[perfect blue]

at that time when i first listen to hyde's voice, was when my younger brother was rocking "Niji opening theme of Samurai X" i didnt like japanese music then but after a while i was hook into it..
i Thought hyde was a aged man around his 50 :P but when i saw him for the fist time i he looked really young i was impress "Honey Pv"
L`Arc~en~CieL has been my favorite band ever since..

[hyde-sama]

yeah... same here... i got to noe hyde frm L'arc-en-ciel frm te theme songs of samurai X.... ad GTO....

[silver_ash86]

oh yeah GTO... the song's driver's high right?

[hyde-sama]

yaya... thats pure laruka. all rock and soul.....

[perfect blue]

hahaha, well they both are my favorited j-rockers!! :)

[hyde-sama]

oh... sou desu ne. ya both r my fav too... but i think gackt's gonna outlast my puberty soon.

[+Seraphim+]

They are both extremely hot! I like Gackt over Hyde though. Gackt is greakin' gorgeous! *huggles Gackt plushie* My favorite song by him is Ares. Although, I think it is way to short. Such a beautiful song. :bluush:

[+Seraphim+]

http://www.shiroitsubasa.com/shiroitsubasa/gackname.jpg Gackt Hotness!

[silver_ash86]

yeah Gackt's hot but i still prefer hyde... muahaha...

[manathetic]

i like gackt bit more than hyde cuz hez taller..lol

[+Seraphim+]

And I think Mana should be in this mix.....He is my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE J-rocker!

*worships Mana*

I have like 100s of pictures of him on my computer! :giggle:

[manathetic]

Mana is the best ne.. i have like 300 pics of mana. well i am sure there are ppl that has more, including screencaps and all.

[+Seraphim+]

Doesn't matter....Everyone should have Mana on there computer...young and old. He is the the o'holy J-rock god! ^_^

[hyde-sama]

ne? geez... height realli seems to be an issue here.

[silver_ash86]

of course!!! chibi power!!!! lol...

[Hien]

manathetic i agree with u,mana is the best!!(ones)..,but i have like 600 pics only of mana moi dix mois i have like 100 ....

i have all thee bujingai's cm..is someone want them,just tellme

[Yi Kyung-soon]

I haven't heard any of Hyde's music but Gackt I have only heard three. Vanilla, Miserable, and and and something else. If you go to a site called http://www.fiyaa.com/gackt/info/bio4_5.php you can read what he says about Sex and Love. Towards the end he talks about how he would fall for Hyde if he was a girl.

[Kala]

i really think the looks are like a nice "add" to them... it's the music what makes you love them or, at least, that's my case... like the first time i heard x-japan... it was like "wwwaaaahhh...!!!XD XD"... but well we are talking about hyde & gackt... I remember the first song i heard of l'arc en ciel was blurry eyes and then niji, and i feel like... "god!! this man's voice go right to my heart!!... it makes me want to die of happiness and exciment"... hyde's voice has the hability of make me happy, so i love it! (and him, of course:P)... gackt, i just think he is a great singer with a beatiful voice who writes awesome lyrics.. though i rather him in malice mizer... and well, just to add, dir en grey is best!!! kyokyo, i agree 100% with you, and what you say about them!!

[Blazing-Soul]

Aww man... Aikawa.. you the type of fan I hate. Your like one of those rapid J-music fans that only judge by looks. Enjoy them for their music not only for their looks.. God.. Seriously... get it together. Gackt has a beautiful voice and hyde is very unique and some of his music is okay. >.< :p :eek:


Yup, I couldn't agree more. I can't stand rabid sexy crazed fan girls/boys who probably don't even own a single cd, yet worship every photo book that comes their way. They should all drive off a cliff or something in some mass suicide or something...

OH, and I love Gackt's voice and I get Moonchild was a decent movie, given the fact that I own it and, well, for singers, they did a pretty ok job...

But what I REALLY wanna know is, WHERE DID YOU GET THAT SIG!!!!

[Camui]

I love Gackt and Hyde's looks...they are just soo cool and unique..I have to admit I was a little scared by Gackt when I saw the Iluminaty video for Malice Mizer, but then when I saw the Mars concert I completely feel in love with him...he has an awesome voice and the emotion in all of his songs are very moving, he's a true artist... :bluush:

as for Hyde...he looks awesome...the first time I saw him was in Moon Child and I though he was really hot...as for his singing I haven't really heard much..the only song I've heard is Finale by L'Arc~En~Ciel and I really loved it... :blush:

I guess overall I like them because they are true artists...the fact that they look ubber hot is only a perk ^^ :D

[Japanimaniac]

I like Hyde and Gackt's looks quite a bit. They're unique. However, there was one picture of Gackt where I had to just laugh. He was dressed something like Squall from FF8, except it was a mid-riff white t-shirt and just looked corny. If I can find it, I'll post it...

[Camui]

oo...I wanna see... :D..Squall's pretty hot..and if it is corny it'll give me a reason to laugh and I need one right now...

[Japanimaniac]

Hehe, I'll get it up here as soon as possible. My friend is the one who showed it to me, so I gotta wait for her to get online so I can get it from her.

[LovableTenshi]

Oddly, I didn't like either of them when I first saw pics of them (man were they unflattering or what; all I have to say is that Hyde looked FAT in the pic I saw, and if anyone here has seen the Moonchild making vid, you'd know that that man is thinner than Gackt). Then I fell in love with Gackt's music, obsessed with his voice for a while, then realized how hot he was. ^___^

I first began to take real notice of Hyde during Moonchild. Before then, I'd see people talking about how gorgeous he was, how obsessed they were, and I'd think of the pic I saw going "WTF are they on?" Then I saw the movie, and believed in God.

[Anyuni_Nakashima]

Why are there so many threads on people asking "why gackt or hyde are so great", especially threads about the way Gackt looks. Honestly, does it really matter if people think that their so great it's their choice. I don't believe that people should have to justify the greatness of their favourite j-pop/j-rock artist. Plus, the only western people who know who Gackt and hyde are, are people who know the Japanese culture/listen to japanese music. Otherwise, Gackt and Hyde aren't well known in the western culture...

[Camui]

people should just accept that Gackt and Hyde are awesome...and totally hott and just move on...lol

[Japanimaniac]

Why are there so many threads on people asking "why gackt or hyde are so great", especially threads about the way Gackt looks. Honestly, does it really matter if people think that their so great it's their choice. I don't believe that people should have to justify the greatness of their favourite j-pop/j-rock artist. Plus, the only western people who know who Gackt and hyde are, are people who know the Japanese culture/listen to japanese music. Otherwise, Gackt and Hyde aren't well known in the western culture...

Well...uumm...that's kinda what Japan Forum is about, I thought. For people who are in to japanese culture to share their ideas, opinions, and insight. Of course, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. :wave:

[Anyuni_Nakashima]

Well...uumm...that's kinda what Japan Forum is about, I thought. For people who are in to japanese culture to share their ideas, opinions, and insight. Of course, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. :wave:

Well I kinda meant that one thread or maybe two is enough. A whole bunch of threads on the same subjects or pertaining to the same subjects get's a lil annoying.

[Japanimaniac]

Ah, yeah, I agree with you there. Oh, and sorry, didn't mean to sound like an *** in my last post. ^.^"

[Anyuni_Nakashima]

lol...you didn't sound like one at all. if anyone sounded like an "***" is was me!

[SajberJohan]

I donｴt even understand half of what gackt sings but he has a really good voice and I like the music (the lyrics are good too eventhough I have to look at http://www.senshigakuen.com/translations/lyrics/gackt/index.htm to see what he sings :/)

[ruth~route]

hyde has a really great voice! and he writes really fantastic lyrics. :emblaugh:

[vampmiyavi]

theyre both VERY talented men and they're songs are very moving..at least i think...and their looks dont hurt either XD

[ruth~route]

yea, i love hyde's WHITE SONG. also Gackt's emu for my dear

[vampmiyavi]

i like gackts stuff with malice mizer a lot...and his other stuffs awesome too ^.^ i love vannilla and secret graden

my favorite hyde song...is erm...cape of storm and midnight celebration...and oasis..><
and i love the finale by larc

[ruth~route]

niji too. their new single jiyuuenoshoutai is also very nice. ^_^
i think i shld udate myself about Gackt news. wat's his latest projects?

[Itazura_na_kiss]

Argh, don't compare Gackt and Hyde so easily. That's two completely different worlds and styles. Hyde is cool, cute, great wide-range voice, good credible Rock.
Have you compared his solo works with L'Arc?! Or just the song "Blurry Eyes" for itself! Amazing how his voice can change...

Gackt is, well -_-# ... a pop idol. Not my kind of guy and music.

[ruth~route]

yea. in LArc's Tierra album there's dis song, In the Air. hyde can manage both very high and low pitch. ^_^ and i like the song Round and Round in the True album.

[Camui]

i like gackts stuff with malice mizer a lot...and his other stuffs awesome too ^.^ i love vannilla and secret graden

my favorite hyde song...is erm...cape of storm and midnight celebration...and oasis..><
and i love the finale by larc

I love Vanilla, but I still am not too fond of Malice Mizer...I'm just not use to that type of music.. and I do love Finale it's soo awesome...all very good songs ^^...

[Illaparatzo-sama]

Have you compared his solo works with L'Arc?! Or just the song "Blurry Eyes" for itself! Amazing how his voice can change...


Yeah, cigarettes can do some amazing things.

[Nightwalker]

The voices and lyrics. I love Gackt's singing and it's a plus that he CAN sing. Hyde can sing great too. I like Gackt more than Hyde though just because I knew about Gackt before Hyde. Anywho, but the image of both singers are just a bonus. I think Gackt is the most beautiful man I have ever seena dn i have never seen anyone as amazing as him. :bluush:

[Nightwalker]

I like Hyde and Gackt's looks quite a bit. They're unique. However, there was one picture of Gackt where I had to just laugh. He was dressed something like Squall from FF8, except it was a mid-riff white t-shirt and just looked corny. If I can find it, I'll post it...


http://www.freewebs.com/eternal_gackt/Gackt300.jpg
Is this it?

[mizerable_d]

For Gackt, i love him because he sings great, writes great songs, being the only person on this planet who can dance strange dances w/o looking stupid, his piano skills, great hair and clothing style, great looks, and looking like a prince. :D

for Hyde, well i don't really know Hyde that well, i just started listening to him so i can't say much, but he has the look of an angel and i like his voice. it's kind of different... ^^ did i mention he looks like an angel? :cute:

[Camui]

http://www.freewebs.com/eternal_gackt/Gackt300.jpg
Is this it?

that pic is sooo awesome!! *drools*..I love him with blonde hair, although he looks good no matter what color his hair is ^^

[Hitomi Himuro]

There both very good looking men with a wonderful talent

[Nightwalker]

I read that somewhere that Gackt said if Hyde was a women Hyde would be perfect for him. There was another one where on the set of Moon Child Hyde was sleeping and Gackt was tempted to kiss him but didn't. That's what's so great about Hyde and Gackt! Their both best friends and really close. Tee hee.

I guess that's just goes to show that Hyde means a lot to Gackt.

[mizerable_d]

I read that somewhere that Gackt said if Hyde was a women Hyde would be perfect for him. There was another one where on the set of Moon Child Hyde was sleeping and Gackt was tempted to kiss him but didn't. That's what's so great about Hyde and Gackt! Their both best friends and really close. Tee hee.

I guess that's just goes to show that Hyde means a lot to Gackt.

aw...... they are so extremely cute... :cute:

[advigilo]

i really like gackt, but mostly for his voice. I don't really like hyde's voice, i don't know why but i don't like it(accept for the moonchild theme song with gackt).
*i would like to write a lot more, but a few people wrote it before me :-)*

[Horizon]

I read that somewhere that Gackt said if Hyde was a women Hyde would be perfect for him. There was another one where on the set of Moon Child Hyde was sleeping and Gackt was tempted to kiss him but didn't. That's what's so great about Hyde and Gackt! Their both best friends and really close. Tee hee.

I guess that's just goes to show that Hyde means a lot to Gackt.

If that almost-kiss really happened, Gackt apparently had his face right up in HYDE's. Ne, you see HYDE...THAT would be one of those tell-tale times where you pretend to be ASLEEP!!! :balloon:

That, or it's all a -cough-"Masqerade"-cough-

I personally like that for both their talent (voice, intruments, etc) and whatnot. I really could care less about whether they're hot or not. I'd prefer to have a band made-up entirely of completely HIDEOUS people that have good music and have actual talent than a vice versa.

I believe that both Gackt and HYDE are extremely talented musicians, vocalists, and lyricist, although I personally prefer HYDE over Gackt any day, any time. I believe his voice is much better and his music as well (both his solo works and the Laruku ones)

And as at least one person has already said, where's the "all the above" option? :blush:

[bbpinksta]

So tell me all the Gackt & Hyde fan's out there, have u guys seen the movie they stared together called 'Moon Child', what do u guys think????

I though the fact that Hyde the vampire was such a great support to Gackt and didn't potray him when he desperately needed blood, that's not it I also like the story plot.

I especially adored Gackt's brilliant acting it was awesome, he was so hilarious. I guess that was the time i started to like the guy!!! So I did further research and found out dat he was a singer and used to be in the gothic band 'Malice Mizer'.

I think he has a great voice and is a good performer and love the fact that he can also be as funny as he is. Atleast he's not the serious type.

[Horizon]

Yeah, I've seen Moon Child, thanks to Nightwalker, thanks to me.

It was the best movie I have and will ever see.

I liked hyde's role, Kei and his character and not just because it's hyde (don't even think that! Xb). I just liked how he was the protector and the calm one of the entire group, even though, thanks to it being hyde who played him, he looked like the most vulnerable since he was so skinny and tiny, ne.

As for Sho's (Gackt's character), I found him to be completely selfish, without a care about how others', like his friends', especially Kei's feelings were and how everything he wanted would affect them, especially poor, little Kei. But besides from that, Sho was actually quite cute, despite the fact that he seemed to immature as he grew older (Does anyone else think he was more mature when he was a kid...?)

Overall, it was quite a good movie, minus Yi-Che (I found her to be completely annoying...>.>), and all the cast did at least a fairly good job with it.

[bbpinksta]

Yes I guess ur right abt Hyde but it's only a movie. Are u into Jpanese movies or this is ur first???

I see your more of a Hyde fan hey!!! So how u get so hooked on Hyde??? since when???

Thanks for ur quick reply by the way

[Horizon]

I know it's only a movie, silly!

And, unfortunately, yes, it is. I want to see "Last Quarter" though...And more Japanese movies period.

And of course I'm more of a hyde fan. I got hooked on him about somewhere between half-a-year to a year ago I do so believe. I'm not sure...Do you want the ENTIRE story of how I got into him? Errr...Probably not. It's quite long; I'll give you a short version of it.

I was looking up pics of a J-Popper named Kotani Kinya and I ended up at a avatar site called byebyereality. Saw people such as Gackt, hyde, and Dir en grey. Checked out Gackt. Got into him. Thought hyde was a girl and also thought Dir en grey was one as well, except I thought "she" was an extremely screwed-up and ugly chick. Also thought hyde was a Caucasian. Ignored "her" for the rest of time spent on site. Went back a few more times to said site. After passing the hyde avatar for the fourth or fifth time, some part of my mind clicked onto the fact that "she" was indeed a he. Both sides of brain fought with each other for 5, possibly even 10 minutes before finally settling on clicking the "he/she"'s name to see pics of "he/she". Saw them. Looked hell like a man (and quite a bit like an Asian too!). Decided to check out. Been obsessed with him ever since.

The end I suppose

P.S. The scary part in this is that, that avatar pic, well, hyde actually looked like a man. Hell, I think one of his manlier looks! Moon Child era I do so believe...-shakes head at self-

[mizerable_d]

T_T me want moon child! i heard it's released in the US, how come it hasn't came to canada yet?!

[Nightwalker]

Oh it has come to Canada. I got it from B.C. Took me about a week and a half to get it but I got it on Ebay. It's really worth the wait though!!

[mizerable_d]

but is it in any movie renting place?

[Horizon]

I read somewhere once that it was at blockbusters...But that might be in the US...I don't know...

[mizerable_d]

ooo im gonna go check it out! XDXD

[Horizon]

I read somewhere on the internet that this one girl (I'm assuming) went to blockbusters, not really expecting to find Moon Child and then, boom! There it was!

That would rock so much!

(Ignore the quoting of that really annoying song...)

[mizerable_d]

omg im sooooooo going to check it out now and IF they have it... muahahahaha!

[Horizon]

Good luck, nyah!

Go you! Go! Go!

:cheer: :win: :v: :victory:

[mizerable_d]

thank you! *bows in appreciation*

[Horizon]

Welcome! xDD

[Nightwalker]

Dunno if they would have it. I would be very surprised if they did! Holy cow yes sir! Lol.

[Horizon]

Yeah, I would be too, but one can hope. If it happened once, it might, just might, have a repeat!

[Nightwalker]

Nyah? But ya... then agian we like suck so we don't get a lot of Japanese movies. They mostly are rip-off's. Like The Grudge, The Ring and Shall we Dance! They were made by the Japanese first then they take them and makes them into s**t movies with non-asian peoples. I watched The Ring in Japanese and it was much better than The Ring (nglish) Grrrrrr's! I am so bad right now!

[Horizon]

Nglish...? Which language is this? Where's it from? I'm curious now...

Teehee!

You're bad right now? Why?

And as long as they don't screw around with Moon Child, I'm fine with it I suppose...

[Nightwalker]

Eep...I just notised that...I messed up. *blushes from embarassment*

Ya I really hope they don't mess around with Moon Child...It's the best movie ever! They can't mess with it! Noooooo!

[Horizon]

Yeah, really!

You can't even spell the name of your native tongue correctly...Hopeless you are Nightwalker...-shakes head-

Where did I EVER go wrong?

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Anyway, yeah, I mean, they can't even get what it means enough to even make a quarter-way accurate summary of it for the back! So, yeah...

[Nightwalker]

Ya more than likely. I watched that Ju-on (The Grudge) in Japanese last night and it's not as freaky as the English but it has more story to it than the English does. So there's ups and downs to both movies.

DON'T TOUCH MY MOONCHILD YOU AMERICAN PEOPLES...(Peoples as in the people who take those movies and make them into English ma-jiggy's...)

[Horizon]

Yeah...Nor should they touch Jatoichi...Good, good movie...-sighs all dreamy-like-

[Nightwalker]

Is that the one with the yaoi or something? Ya...they should not touch them period really.

[Horizon]

Nope! Remember when we were at Video 99? The day we rented "Shaolin Soccer", ne? And we were looking at Japanese movies? One about a "blind" swordman (samurai/ronin/whatever) and another one that looks good too, although I don't remember what it's about?

Jatoichi is the one about the "blind" swordsman. It's amazing! And there's a DRAG QUEEN!!!! His name is Osei. He wears a woman's kimono and traditional make-up. HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -drool- Although once you know Osei's a man, especially once you hear his voice, he doesn't look anything like a girl practically.

And, by the way, one of these days I'm going to have to steal you and show you the game(s) I got for Christmas. They are, simply put, AMAZING! Well, Onimusha 3: Demon Seige is and Samurai warrior is too as far as I can tell, although my brother said the other one wasn't that bad either.

And there are hot Japanese dudes! And they're related and from two seperate games...The father Akechi (I forgot his given name...^___^;;) and his son, Samanosuke (I think that's how it's spelled, although I just call him Samurai Dude...). Akechi is from both games really, but Samanosuke is the main character, or one of the couple, in Onimusha 3: Demon Seige. There's even a pretty, girly looking boy in that game too, although I forgot his name, ne!

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

And I'll shut up now...^^;;

[Nightwalker]

Hee hee okay's then sounds good to me. ^^ Weee! Games are fun. I wish I could get Bujingai still...oh well.

*sigh* Gackuto-sama...

[Horizon]

Mitsuhide Akechi is the one guy's name I couldn't remember and the pretty, girly boy is Ranmaru...There was also a character by the name of Ranmaru in Samurai Warriors...

Maybe both games are from CAPCOM...?

<------Has to check it out

<------Has also just figured out how to make \ signs...

xDDDDDDD

I threw up after playing Samurai Warriors today though...-cries- Typical! That just HAD to be one of those games where when I play them for an hour or so I throw up (cue Kingdom Hearts but that's a piece of crap game anyway!)

One of these days, I shall acquire the almighty game of Bujingai! And then I shall, in my never-ending kindness and compassion, allow you to play the almighty game of games!

<-----Is being stuuuuuuuuuuuupid!!

[Nightwalker]

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *huggles*

[Horizon]

Yay that I threw up...?

Meany!


:okashii: :okashii: :okashii: :okashii: :okashii: :okashii: :okashii:

[Nightwalker]

No bout the Bujingai. I feel bad that you threw up sweetie.

[mizerable_d]

im not a big fan of video games but, omgomgomg Bujingai! my friend found a article for me and i read it 10 times! lol... me wanna it! lol although i might quite after 5 min since i will probably suck...T_T;;;

[Nightwalker]

Aww I bet you don't. At least we get to "play" around with Gackt-sama.

Hee hee hee.

[mizerable_d]

lol yay! PLAY!

i heard that Bujingai is hard...

[Nightwalker]

Looks pretty hard but it would be fun to "play". Hee hee hee....

PlayStation...I hope anyone gets that. :giggle:

[mizerable_d]

hahaha someone should name their berlesk house(cant spell) "playstaion"

[Nightwalker]

XD

It was like a dildo...or vibrator at some point. That's what it was called. So they had to change it. My friends and I would ask the boys if they play PlayStation. SO FUNNY! Do it sometime with your friends and ask your friends that don't know and it will be funny. Tee hee hee.

[Horizon]

What are you two talking about...?

<------Is clueless

And you'd better feel bad about my throwing up. Still feel nausous, which is sad since it happened yesterday morning...

[mizerable_d]

lol aww poor you...

[Nightwalker]

*pats Horizon on the back* It's okay nyah...

[Horizon]

Oooohhh...I feel loved! ^________________^

[Nightwalker]

Tee hee because you are! Weeeeeeeeeeee! *huggles*

[Horizon]

Only because I made you those things! You can't even manage a simple "thank you"...T.T

[Nightwalker]

Say what? That's not the reason. How could you say something like that. That could make me sound so selfish.

[Horizon]

I'm joking, ne! I knows that you love me for some unknown reason.

Poor you...I almost pity you...

Although a thank you would be appreciated...-pouts-

[Nightwalker]

I did thank you silly. Lol! I so e-mailed you! XD

Maybe ya didn't get it but anywho! Thank ya very much. Tee hee. :bluush:

[Horizon]

No, didn't get no stinking e-mail, but meh...I was just playing 'round anyway, ne!

And your welcome!

[Nightwalker]

^________________________________________________^ Big Smile!! Bwhaha!

[Japanimaniac]

Has anyone else noticed that we've pretty much taken over like five threads? XD

[Nightwalker]

Yuppers! I thought it was more. :o

I thought the whole J-Pop forum...Nyah?

[Japanimaniac]

And next...all of JRef!!! -evil maniacal laugh-

And now that I look....geez. Yeah, you guys have Napoleonated the J-Pop forum. But I'm only involved in five. Which means you'll get banned before I do! :giggle: Kidding! :-)

[Nightwalker]

B-Banned.....

:( :( :( :( :(

[Japanimaniac]

Na, you won't be banned, don't worry. -pats- But truthfully, I am kind of surprised that a moderator hasn't said something. We have been kind of..."active". ^.^"

[Horizon]

Eeep! -hides-

P.S. Night, your pic no workies!

[mizerable_d]

wats worng with being active? :?

[Nightwalker]

Off topic active? But were having fun. I don't get why we would get in trouble. Were no really doing anything wrong I would think.

[mizerable_d]

ya we're making this forum successful

[Horizon]

Oh yes. How very, very true xD

[Nightwalker]

Lol! Good one D! Never thought of that.

[mizerable_d]

*bows* hehe yes we are great ppl

[Horizon]

Yes, very great. Everyone on this site should be bowing before as and sacrificing beautiful, young virgins to us, just like the goddesses we are! xD

[mizerable_d]

lol i heard there were matiarchal societies where there was a queen and she would marry the best looking guy in the place and have kids but after 3 years or so the guy gets scraificed to the gods and she marries another...and he gets killed and the she marries another...and so on...

[Nightwalker]

Holy crap! That's nuts but...interesting in some way...so amusing I guess...poor guys...

:( If I was them I wouldn't be able to get Asian men because they would die! :( :(

[mizerable_d]

T_ awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Nightwalker]

:bawling: I know......poor poor men......

[mizerable_d]

yup, lol my friend wants to be queen...

[Nightwalker]

Lol. I want to just be me...maybe Asian if I had it my way but then I wouldn't have red hair. :( Still...dark hair is nice. Tee!

[mizerable_d]

red isnt bad. many asian ppl dye their hair red

[Nightwalker]

Really? Red is getting to be popluar now...but mine is natural bwhahahahaaa! XD

[mizerable_d]

lol red looks cool, but the black hair dyes are often very dull...

[Nightwalker]

Ohhh I see. Some people go to dye their hair brown or something and turns out black. It's weird. I think it'sbecause of their hair clour that does that. Yup I think so.

[mizerable_d]

i want yellow or blue hair T_T but both requires bleaching...

[Nightwalker]

Ya that really kills you heair. My boyfriend only bleached it twice and it's like dead.

His hair ---------> X.X

[Horizon]

Yeah, I want platinum blonde, but my Mom won't let me because my eyebrows "are too dark". Like I give a f*ck

[Nightwalker]

It's becaue of Hyde I know you want it. Lmao! I love you.

[Horizon]

Actually, I've kind of ALWAYS wanted it, but now I just want it more. Kind of like blue glass items, ne. I've ALWAYS loved them and thought they were REALLY pretty, although I didn't pay much attention to them, 'till I found out Hyde likes them and then I just looked more closely at them and think they're even more prettier before, but that's really only because I didn't really look at them much before, so, yeah...

I'll shut up now...

[mizerable_d]

ya i thought of platinum blonde hair...but then i'll have to bleach it like 10X T_T then my hair would be ---------------->X_______________________________X

[Horizon]

Yeah. My hair is a dark, almost black brown, ne, but right now it's dyed a slightly reddish blonde, and my roots are kind beginning to show, so soon I'll have to die it again.

<------------Can't stand colour of hair...-eye twitches-

[mizerable_d]

lol Lucy of silver ash hates it when he has to go out with his hair colour faded...-_-

grr i want blue! i want yellow! T_T

[Horizon]

I want, errr, besides from platinum blonde, electrice pink (and that would be hide's, Karou's, and a little bit of Sugizo's fault...) and purple!!

[Horizon]

Oh! And I was watching some of the Animatrix at Nightwalker's house, ne and there was this girl with pink hair on the top layer and the hair underneath it was blue. I thought that was pretty cool.

[Nightwalker]

Ya it is pretty neat I would say so too. That cat's name was "Yuki" sooo cute!! :cute:

[mizerable_d]

oo i cant wait till my hair grows longer XD!!! i will cut it like totchi's

[Horizon]

I thought the cat's name was Yuri? She was saying Yuri, wasn't she? I heard "r", not "k"...

[Nightwalker]

Nahh! It was Yuki. >.< I win, I win, I WIN!! Anywho, what does this have to do with Gackt and Hyde? :souka:

[Horizon]

I don't know, but we're never on topic anyway...


Umm...In that poll where's the "everything"? And, err, yeah everything's great with them! :p

[Nightwalker]

I got to pee....

[Horizon]

That's nice, Shu-chan...What does this have to do with Hyde and Gackt (and don't be perverted now)? You crazt, crazy baffoon...

[mizerable_d]

you got to pee... wow how random...

[Nightwalker]

*giggle* I know. I'm so random but I was sitting in class and I had to pee so bad.

[mizerable_d]

lol ya i hate it when that happens... *getting offtopic*

[Nightwalker]

I say I just should strap a toliet to my *** and go from there. Though that is dirty. XD

[mizerable_d]

lol it would leak everywheere...

[Nightwalker]

Random people: It's going everywhere!
Me: Gahhhhhhhhh! *screams in horror*

[mizerable_d]

o_O lol....

[Nightwalker]

:relief: Guess that was too much of a crazy image to put in your head.

[Japanimaniac]

-just reads and shakes head- :p

[PrincessBerriKiller]

O.o;;;; what happens when you people get left alone..*shakes head*

I wanted to make mine (hair) pink...or Shinya orange...I wanna grow it out and get it cut like the early Kaoru styles...since it was already cut like Shinyas...Hair is such a hassle...

hyde= cute and strange
Gackt= strange....alright, alright and he has a good voice...:D

Look back on topic so no more toilet talk, okay? I dont want to hear any more of your "potty mouth"

[Nightwalker]

Tee hee. Okay I'll stop. That was cute though. "Potty mouth"! But anywho, the great thing about these two is that they can sing. That's why I like Gackt so much. He's the first singer I have hooked onto for a long time now.

[PrincessBerriKiller]

haha my stupidity comes as a source of amusement to you...I feel great...haha no. It doesn't really matter...I like their vocals...I just find noting I can love in their lyrics alot (at least Gackts) They just don't appeal to me as much...

[Nightwalker]

I see. I see. I don't really go for the lyrics when it comes to Japanese music because I don't understand it. But, I go for the emotion of the way the singer is singing in the song that shows pain, loss or something like that.

[Jadrien24]

I first fell in love with L'Arc-en-Ciel's music, infact they are the only group I have ever listened to where I like every song, and I have five CDs worth of their songs! As far as looks are concerned, somehow I think they're more attractive in music videos or interviews than they are in pictures. I guess they're more charismatic that way.
I've listened to a few of Gackt's songs- I especially like 'Story'. Personally I like Hyde better, but I think I need to try some Gackt more because I do like what I've heard so far.

[Nightwalker]

Yay! Come to the dark side! Bwhahaha! :evil: Gackt is the best! I didn't like him at first because he looked kinda gross looking. I feel bad for that but it happened. The Horizon sent me some piccys of him all like Mizerable crap and I fell for him as a singer. Then I listened to his music and I love it a lot. He is the first singer I have sticked with for a long time now.

[Horizon]

I
I've listened to a few of Gackt's songs- I especially like 'Story'. Personally I like Hyde better, but I think I need to try some Gackt more because I do like what I've heard so far.

You poor, poor creature...What a shame...-shakes head-

Just joking. Ignore me :p


Yay! Come to the dark side! Bwhahaha! :evil: Gackt is the best! I didn't like him at first because he looked kinda gross looking. I feel bad for that but it happened. The Horizon sent me some piccys of him all like Mizerable crap and I fell for him as a singer. Then I listened to his music and I love it a lot. He is the first singer I have sticked with for a long time now.

Yes, she fell in love with him as a singer when she saw pictures of him where he looked like a vampyre...o.0

And I shouldn't have even sent you those pictures either...All obsessive now...And your gushing is rubbing itself on me...Mou! Xb

But then again, you were pretty bad with Makoto (is that it...? xD), so I guess I was stuck either way, huh...? xDD

[Nightwalker]

Rubbing... O.O Oh crap more tingles.

[nanda]

hyde n gakku are great, as singer, and as couple (in my dream XD~)
but i don't think they're good in acting ..

[Horizon]

Actually, they're MUCH better actors than a lot of people, especially Hyde xD

[Nightwalker]

Actually, they're MUCH better actors than a lot of people, especially Hyde xD
Ya really. I've seen a lot of singers thay go into movies and its just a big "No, no!".

:relief: Thank Buddha for Gackt and Hyde.

[Horizon]

Or vice versa...-shudders-

But "singers" turned actors...Eminem? <------WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

And yesh, immense thanking xD

[Nightwalker]

Or vice versa...-shudders-

But "singers" turned actors...Eminem? <------WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

And yesh, immense thanking xD
Eminem? O____________O *holds Magnum close* I hate that guy so much.

[Horizon]

Me too! Sexist beeper...-grumbles-

[stalky]

Actually, they're MUCH better actors than a lot of people, especially Hyde xD

but hyde's role in moonchild was quite easy if you've noticed that... and gackt as an actor :mad: ... i prefer him singing... (of course it doesn't mean i didn't like the film....)

[Kinsao]

Oh no, not another Gackt-y thread... :sorry:
He is tasty, but... :bluush:

[stalky]

Oh no, not another Gackt-y thread... :sorry:
He is tasty, but... :bluush:
yeah another gackty thread... but i hope soon there will be some offtopic so don't worry :p

[Horizon]

but hyde's role in moonchild was quite easy if you've noticed that... and gackt as an actor :mad: ... i prefer him singing... (of course it doesn't mean i didn't like the film....)


And how, may I ask, was Hyde's role easy?

And Gackt is a wonderful actor...I don't see why people keep on saying differently...Like they'd be able to do it... :okashii:

[stalky]

And how, may I ask, was Hyde's role easy?

And Gackt is a wonderful actor...I don't see why people keep on saying differently...Like they'd be able to do it... :okashii:
i don't know how to explain to you..for me his role just looks easier that's all

and about gackt - you like him as an actor, i don't and it's ok... i just prefer different ..hmm ... style of acting and gackt didn't suit me

[Horizon]

Or maybe, just maybe, he's so good at it, it appeared easy? Ever think of that one?

And it doesn't seem anymore easier than any other role that I've seens played by people.

Style of acting?!? Jeez...I don't see the damn difference! There's really only one way to act and all! I so do not get people...:okashii:

And I'm not that much of a Gackt fan, singing or acting, but I can still tell he's talented at both.

[stalky]

[SIZE=1]Or maybe, just maybe, he's so good at it, it appeared easy? Ever think of that one?
:D don't make me funny - it's so childlish to think that way.... if role appear easy it means that actor didn't have to put great effort into it...

And it doesn't seem anymore easier than any other role that I've seens played by people.
so maybe you haven't seen enough good movies.... you know moonchild is just average same as acting - average but good
maybe you watch too much buffy :p

Style of acting?!? Jeez...I don't see the damn difference! There's really only one way to act and all! I so do not get people...:okashii:
you know really good actors have their own unique style of acting which is their showcase
if actor doesn't have her/his own style of acting it means she/he is hollow because style of acting comes from that what that person have inside and which part of herself/himself was put in that role

[Horizon]

And you know this how?

I've watched plenty of good movies, thanks very muchly. And, well, actually, Buffy's got good actors too...Plus I don't watch it much. In fact, I'm missing it right this very instant.

And, no, no they do not. I really see no talent in actors. Or incrediable. There are ones that do it fine and others that suck beyond sucky, but it's not like it requires much. Hell, even I could be an actor if I really wanted to.

You pretend to be someone else. That's it, that's all. Who the hell cares beyond that?!?

And Moon Child was one of the best movies I've ever seen and it had so-called "good" actors as well.

[stalky]

And you know this how?

I've watched plenty of good movies, thanks very muchly. And, well, actually, Buffy's got good actors too...Plus I don't watch it much. In fact, I'm missing it right this very instant.

And, no, no they do not. I really see no talent in actors. Or incrediable. There are ones that do it fine and others that suck beyond sucky, but it's not like it requires much. Hell, even I could be an actor if I really wanted to.

You pretend to be someone else. That's it, that's all. Who the hell cares beyond that?!?

And Moon Child was one of the best movies I've ever seen and it had so-called "good" actors as well.

buffy has good actors?!? they're just average and nothing more..

acting is not just pretending to be someone else... acting is kind of art but i think you propably wouldn't understand that....

and if moonchild was one of the best movies you've ever seen... i feel really sorry about that but you have no idea about movies...
maybe you like hyde too much and thats why you think this movie was great..

[Horizon]

Then what frigging movies do you like then...? :okashii: :okashii:


And I know about art, thank you, but I still see nothing so special about acting. Everyone I've seen thus far does an okay job, tops. Everyone else blows type of thing. :okashii: :okashii:

[stalky]

i like most of visconti and antonioni movies, rome by fellini, breaking waves by von trier,viridiana by bunuel, most almodovar stuff, american night by truffaut, decalog by kieslowski... there's a lot good movies i love to watch

of course there's also a lot crappy films i like :bluush:

[stalky]

And I know about art, thank you, but I still see nothing so special about acting. Everyone I've seen thus far does an okay job, tops. Everyone else blows type of thing. :okashii: :okashii:

if you don't see anything special in acting - how can you see anything special in movie ?

[Horizon]

One more thing here: me liking Moon Child actually has absolutely NOTHING to do with Hyde in the slightest way possible. I just like it 'cause it's good, has awesome characters, and great plot.

Uh-huh...Considering how I've never even HEARD of any of these movies...:okashii:

[stalky]

One more thing here: me liking Moon Child actually has absolutely NOTHING to do with Hyde in the slightest way possible. I just like it 'cause it's good, has awesome characters, and great plot.

Uh-huh...Considering how I've never even HEARD of any of these movies...:okashii:

O_______O
you're joking?
ok visconti, bunuel, truffaut are quite old stuffs (but they are one of the most important directors in history of cinematography)

but you don't know almodovar or von trier? breaking the waves is quite new... same almodovar - you've never heard about talk to her, la mala education (these two are the newest)

so what are you watching? you said you tend to watch sth good, so...

[Horizon]

Ummmm...Let's see here:

-level of entertainment
-good plot
-good characters
-explosions (no, joking...Although they make it even better!)

Blah, blah, blah...All those nice things and all.

[stalky]

give me some examples....

i thought you may like la mala education by almodovar - it's boyxboy ( but of course this film is not about sex) most my friends watched it only for that :p and besides that is nice piece of art (movie)

[Kinsao]

I just read the bit about acting being easy...
"you pretend to be someone else. That's all."
*thud*
as my lower jaw hits the floor.

I act - no, not in films, in theatre. I *know* it is a different thing - a very different thing - for lots of reasons, but I'm sure there are some skills which are common to both stage and film acting.

And, no, it is *not* easy. :okashii:

The number of times I've been rehearsing for a performance and thought to myself afterwards, "thank [insert deity of your choice] I don't act in movies!!" I'm not keen, thank you very much, on thinking that I put in all that hard work doing something that is easy, and still manage not to be very good at it. :souka:

But, I have not seen Moon Child :sorry: (I sooooo much want to! *cries*), so I can't say anything remotely relevant about Gackt and Hyde's acting skills or lack of them...

[stalky]

generally acting is not easy thing but i think that there are easier and more challenging roles, sometimes when you playing you have to put more effort into one role than into another
some roles are well more ambitious than others or to play them you need to show feeling/emotions that are not common for you personally or you are going to play someone who is more experienced than you that you might not understand some aspects of their personality (i hope it's sounds clear.. :p )
do you agree with me? you're playing so you may see that problem in different way...

[Horizon]

Hence the pretending to be someone else thing...But anyone half-way good can do that. A lot can't, but a lot can. Including me for hell's sake! And I'm not a bleeding actress, now am I?

[Kinsao]

*agrees with Stalky that some roles are harder than others*
Definitely!

But an 'easy' role generally tends to be a smaller role, say for instance if you have only a very few lines. I mean, it can be really hard to play... but you don't have to sustain it for hours.

Roles that are badly written are much more difficult, because it leaves more work to the actor.

[Horizon]

Well, yes....True, I suppose...But I still don't see much of a difference. If any at all.

[stalky]

good for us that horizon is not an actor :p

[Horizon]

And you know this how?

And it still stands that there's not much difference in so-called "good" actors...Tell me, who do you think is a good actor?

[Kinsao]

well, rabbits that hump basketballs --> jrockers who are nice and fluffy like rabbits --> jrockers that hump... whatever (fill in your own what you like there :blush: ).... --> back on topic again!

Well, sort of...

[Horizon]

I think you posted on the wrong thread...:relief:

[Japanimaniac]

I'm JRef's resident neko guy, and I missed out on this cat fight!? (I'm just kidding guys, dun hurt me!) :p

For what it's worth, I liked Moon Child. Thought Hyde and Gackt both did good. Good movies and actors are based on the individuals who watch them. I love all three Crow movies, and all three Evil Dead movies. Neither series has had very good reviews (except the original Crow movie), but that's because they deviate from the norm. Cult classics. That's what Moon Child is. :cool:

[Horizon]

O_______O
you're joking?
ok visconti, bunuel, truffaut are quite old stuffs (but they are one of the most important directors in history of cinematography)

but you don't know almodovar or von trier? breaking the waves is quite new... same almodovar - you've never heard about talk to her, la mala education (these two are the newest)

so what are you watching? you said you tend to watch sth good, so...


And what would 'sth' good be now?

[Horizon]

I just read the bit about acting being easy...
"you pretend to be someone else. That's all."
*thud*
as my lower jaw hits the floor.

I act - no, not in films, in theatre. I *know* it is a different thing - a very different thing - for lots of reasons, but I'm sure there are some skills which are common to both stage and film acting.

And, no, it is *not* easy. :okashii:

The number of times I've been rehearsing for a performance and thought to myself afterwards, "thank [insert deity of your choice] I don't act in movies!!" I'm not keen, thank you very much, on thinking that I put in all that hard work doing something that is easy, and still manage not to be very good at it. :souka:

But, I have not seen Moon Child :sorry: (I sooooo much want to! *cries*), so I can't say anything remotely relevant about Gackt and Hyde's acting skills or lack of them...

Basically, it's no harder than any other job is what I'm saying...

Or, possibly, you're one of those 'bad' actors.

I'm JRef's resident neko guy, and I missed out on this cat fight!? (I'm just kidding guys, dun hurt me!) :p

For what it's worth, I liked Moon Child. Thought Hyde and Gackt both did good. Good movies and actors are based on the individuals who watch them. I love all three Crow movies, and all three Evil Dead movies. Neither series has had very good reviews (except the original Crow movie), but that's because they deviate from the norm. Cult classics. That's what Moon Child is. :cool:

Heheh...A bit of support! Whoot! Whoot! :blush:

give me some examples....

i thought you may like la mala education by almodovar - it's boyxboy ( but of course this film is not about sex) most my friends watched it only for that :p and besides that is nice piece of art (movie)

Art...? Hardly! The actual writing of movies and plays are actually art, but acting? Tah!

[stalky]

Art...? Hardly! The actual writing of movies and plays are actually art, but acting? Tah!

you undersestimate actors, besides i think you don't have the foggiest idea of art generally if you can't understand how much actors mean for cinematography and theater... maybe you think like that because the only actors you know are those from crappy high-budget american movies like all those celebrities from colorful magazines

[furan]

haven't been following this thread... but i agree entiely with stalky's last comment.

acting is an art.... that very few master perfectly, but when they do..... it's amazing.
i did drama for GCSE..... and.... tho people told me i was good.... i never really felt i was because i never really managed to grasp the 'art' behind it....

there are few actors who can truley but their mind in someone elses...
with me, i just put myself in that situation, not chaged my etire mindset, wich is wat's really necessary for the greatest performances.

[Horizon]

you undersestimate actors, besides i think you don't have the foggiest idea of art generally if you can't understand how much actors mean for cinematography and theater... maybe you think like that because the only actors you know are those from crappy high-budget american movies like all those celebrities from colorful magazines
Uh-huh. I don't know art whatsoever. Let's just completely forget about my high interest in actual art like painting, sculpting, drawing, et cetera and the art of literature, especially since I engage in both activities and also the fact that music is practically my life and all. I'm quite big on all those thing and, well, needlessly to say, I understand art perfectly. Real art that is and not just being told what to do and all that junk.

To me, actual art actually has something to do with being a wee, little bit creative here. There is nothing creative about being told what to do, how to do it, reading from a script, et cetera.

haven't been following this thread... but i agree entiely with stalky's last comment.

acting is an art.... that very few master perfectly, but when they do..... it's amazing.
i did drama for GCSE..... and.... tho people told me i was good.... i never really felt i was because i never really managed to grasp the 'art' behind it....

there are few actors who can truley but their mind in someone elses...
with me, i just put myself in that situation, not chaged my etire mindset, wich is wat's really necessary for the greatest performances.


Well, as of yet, I have have yet to see any of these so called "masters" as they're all the same thing to me basically. But, seriously here, actually list some actors you like, like I've asked at least 2 times, in the very list. Let's see who you two think are good. Or I'm going to have to take your silence on the matter as what it implies.

[furan]

i'm not the perfect judge to say whoe the greatest actore ever.... but i have to say i think Tom Hanks is extreemly talented... but then in know there are some how dislike him...

in the end it is a matter of personal interest, but... acting is an art....
you say you're inetersted in fine arts... well... there is also performing arts.... that is what it's called.
and there is a form of modern art that involves acing with i've completly forgotten the name of.

the best actors can be found in the theater to tell you the truth....
but some big screan actors started off there... like dame Judy Dench and sir Ian McKellin and such....
i think they're pretty damn tallented actors.....

[Horizon]

Then why are you practically preaching about how acting is art? If you're not the perfect judge for saying who the best actor is, you're not really the perfect judge to say what real art is, now are you?

And you know how many things are categorized as something they're not? Take Koala Bears for example: they aren't bears whatsoever. And I heard the same with Pandas, but don't quote me on that one.

Tom Hanks is pretty good (for an actor), but meh...Reading off what someone else wrote just isn't art for me. Not even in the slightest. Although actors get bonus marks when they do...That thing that I can't, for the life of me, remember the word for when they come up with something to do themselves. Like free-lance acting or something...Well, yeah, basically when they make up what they're supposed to do themselves as either the director and co. want them too or for whatever reason.

And who? The last guy sounds familiar, but I still can't quite place it. And maybe. For being actors that is.

[nanda]

oh come on, they are great musicians, and very good-looking, they can be models
but not actor
maybe they can, but they're gonna need to practice .. a lot ..

[Kinsao]

Umm, Horizon, not that I'm meaning to ***** or anything, but... "I understand art perfectly" ???????
:souka: :souka: :souka: :souka: :souka: <-- I kind of looked like that when I read...

Sorry, but if you can say that, please take your head out your ***.

No offence meant, of course.

[stalky]

To me, actual art actually has something to do with being a wee, little bit creative here. There is nothing creative about being told what to do, how to do it, reading from a script, et cetera.

what the hell are you talking???? being told what to do, how to do?? who told you that????? it's actor's own decision how to play a role
director can only tell actor what he/she expects but not how to do it

maybe you're too young to understand that - but when you'll go to work no one will tell you how you should do sth, important is result of your work and that how you'll do it it's only your business

same with actors - this job requires making decisions on your own and skills of indentifying with a situation/role, no one will tell you how to express your feelings

[furan]

Then why are you practically preaching about how acting is art? If you're not the perfect judge for saying who the best actor is, you're not really the perfect judge to say what real art is, now are you?

And you know how many things are categorized as something they're not? Take Koala Bears for example: they aren't bears whatsoever. And I heard the same with Pandas, but don't quote me on that one.

Tom Hanks is pretty good (for an actor), but meh...Reading off what someone else wrote just isn't art for me. Not even in the slightest. Although actors get bonus marks when they do...That thing that I can't, for the life of me, remember the word for when they come up with something to do themselves. Like free-lance acting or something...Well, yeah, basically when they make up what they're supposed to do themselves as either the director and co. want them too or for whatever reason.

And who? The last guy sounds familiar, but I still can't quite place it. And maybe. For being actors that is.
because i droped theater studies to continue with fine art....

lol, yes, i am awear that many things are named such that they shouldn't be... but acting is genuinly quolified as a ligitimate art... or do i need to go sue my drama teacher?

yes, interperative inporvisation.... that's where you see the real art.
art is a form of expression....
are you telling me now that dancing isn't an art?
some people can't use their hands to expressthemselves, so some use words, others use their body.
art isn't confinde to a sheet of paper...
that's why so many people can do such different things... i mean... i don't understand how a half empty glass of water on a shelf can be considered art.... but it is all the same...
i could be really tacky here and go get the huge dictionary downstairs and tel you the definition of art.... but it's downstairs and it's hearvy :relief:
but yeah... i'm just wondering... have ou ever gone to the theater?
or seen the royal shakespear company in action?
they have a director, ye... because it's necessary to have someone looking in on the outside, telling them how it looks back... but they develop the charaters manorisms and such themselves... they have the guidlines with the script, but it;s their job to make it clear what they're doing, so the audience can understand it, without haveing to spacifically understand everyword that's spoken....

lol, those last to actors are two very highly respected actors that indeed started off in the royal shakespear company.
damn Judey Dench... umm... she played queen victoria in victoria? err... she's the new 'm' in the james bond films... she was the older iris in that iris film.. lol.. she's been in loads, it would be stupid for me to name all the roles she's ever played :relief:
sir Ian McKellin..... Gandalf dear :relief:

[Horizon]

Great job on being ageist...:okashii:

And that's all I'm going to say as that completely turned me off of this discussion. Great job :okashii:

[Horizon]

because i droped theater studies to continue with fine art....

lol, yes, i am awear that many things are named such that they shouldn't be... but acting is genuinly quolified as a ligitimate art... or do i need to go sue my drama teacher?

yes, interperative inporvisation.... that's where you see the real art.
art is a form of expression....
are you telling me now that dancing isn't an art?
some people can't use their hands to expressthemselves, so some use words, others use their body.
art isn't confinde to a sheet of paper...
that's why so many people can do such different things... i mean... i don't understand how a half empty glass of water on a shelf can be considered art.... but it is all the same...
i could be really tacky here and go get the huge dictionary downstairs and tel you the definition of art.... but it's downstairs and it's hearvy :relief:
but yeah... i'm just wondering... have ou ever gone to the theater?
or seen the royal shakespear company in action?
they have a director, ye... because it's necessary to have someone looking in on the outside, telling them how it looks back... but they develop the charaters manorisms and such themselves... they have the guidlines with the script, but it;s their job to make it clear what they're doing, so the audience can understand it, without haveing to spacifically understand everyword that's spoken....

lol, those last to actors are two very highly respected actors that indeed started off in the royal shakespear company.
damn Judey Dench... umm... she played queen victoria in victoria? err... she's the new 'm' in the james bond films... she was the older iris in that iris film.. lol.. she's been in loads, it would be stupid for me to name all the roles she's ever played :relief:
sir Ian McKellin..... Gandalf dear :relief:

Actually, I have been to a threater and, well, it was amazing and all, but meh...

And how could it not be clear? It's written out completely for them! Except, again, the one's that improvise (and that would be thr word I couldn't remember before).

And, well, I'm not afraid to be tacky here:

Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature.
The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.
The study of these activities.
The product of these activities; human works of beauty considered as a group.
High quality of conception or execution, as found in works of beauty; aesthetic value.
A field or category of art, such as music, ballet, or literature.
A nonscientific branch of learning; one of the liberal arts.
A system of principles and methods employed in the performance of a set of activities: the art of building.
A trade or craft that applies such a system of principles and methods: the art of the lexicographer.
Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the baker; the blacksmith's art.
Skill arising from the exercise of intuitive faculties: “Self-criticism is an art not many are qualified to practice” (Joyce Carol Oates).
arts Artful devices, stratagems, and tricks.
Artful contrivance; cunning.
Printing. Illustrative material.

No where in there does it mention the word 'acting'. It mentions the arrangement of sound, movement, et cetera, but that's the script-writers who do that. And perhaps the director as well.

And, as for the dancer thing, whoever makes up the moves and all, going by this definition, is an artist as it's an arrangement of movements. But the people that learn the moves and all aren't the same as they're doing nothing but following and performing what someone else created.

Kind of like (most) actors.

And I thought Ian McKellin was Gandolf (and also Magneto! xD), but I wasn't sure as I have a bad memory and all :relief:

And, well, I still have no clue as to who the other person is :sorry:

[Kinsao]

Is it easy to find out that your boyfriend has been cheating on you?
Is it easy to tell your best friend that her son has just died?
Is it easy to find out you are pregnant... and be pleased about it?
Is it easy to walk into a room and find your mum giving your close (male!) friend a blowjob?
Is it easy to hear people insulting your father at his funeral?
Even, is it easy to love your father very much even if he's a male chauvinist pig?
Is it easy to *be* one-quarter of a machine for torturing people?
Is it easy to be convulsed with hilarity, while your good friend is seriously ill in hospital?
Is it easy to be a 37-year-old virgin?
Is it easy to commit murder?
Is it easy to be seen and not heard?
Is it easy to lose everything you ever had?
...the list could go on...

If you can answer 'yes' to those questions, *maybe* you could be a good actor.

[Horizon]

Umm, Horizon, not that I'm meaning to ***** or anything, but... "I understand art perfectly" ???????
:souka: :souka: :souka: :souka: :souka: <-- I kind of looked like that when I read...

Sorry, but if you can say that, please take your head out your ***.

No offence meant, of course.

Offense taken thank you :okashii:

Is it easy to find out that your boyfriend has been cheating on you?
Is it easy to tell your best friend that her son has just died?
Is it easy to find out you are pregnant... and be pleased about it?
Is it easy to walk into a room and find your mum giving your close (male!) friend a blowjob?
Is it easy to hear people insulting your father at his funeral?
Even, is it easy to love your father very much even if he's a male chauvinist pig?
Is it easy to *be* one-quarter of a machine for torturing people?
Is it easy to be convulsed with hilarity, while your good friend is seriously ill in hospital?
Is it easy to be a 37-year-old virgin?
Is it easy to commit murder?
Is it easy to be seen and not heard?
Is it easy to lose everything you ever had?
...the list could go on...

If you can answer 'yes' to those questions, *maybe* you could be a good actor.

And more than likely, yes. I'm not interested in this entire thing, so I don't do it, but I could.

P.S. It's not like 37 year old Virgins are an entirely different species here.

[furan]

Actually, I have been to a threater and, well, it was amazing and all, but meh...

And how could it not be clear? It's written out completely for them! Except, again, the one's that improvise (and that would be thr word I couldn't remember before).

And, well, I'm not afraid to be tacky here:



No where in there does it mention the word 'acting'. It mentions the arrangement of sound, movement, et cetera, but that's the script-writers who do that. And perhaps the director as well.

And, as for the dancer thing, whoever makes up the moves and all, going by this definition, is an artist as it's an arrangement of movements. But the people that learn the moves and all aren't the same as they're doing nothing but following and performing what someone else created.

Kind of like (most) actors.

And I thought Ian McKellin was Gandolf (and also Magneto! xD), but I wasn't sure as I have a bad memory and all :relief:

And, well, I still have no clue as to who the other person is :sorry:

ah.... it's the interpritation of that tho....
human effort to imitate that would be covered by acting, wouldn't it?
and... i thing drama is one of the libral arts... but i'm not sure, so... you can shoot me if i'm wrong
Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the baker; the blacksmith's art. that too... acting covers that.....


you are awear that there is an artist who basically thinks up the idea and gets his students to paint it, right?
i dis agree with it, but... hey, he's liked by a lot of people (sorry, if forgotten his name... a pop-artist)

although... actually all these examples that are coming to my head would then prove that the artist is the director... not the actor....
i mean... in the end it's up to you what you decid art is or not.... but...
what about a pianist playing... mozart?
their interpirtation of the pice makes all the difference... if they simply play what's written down, nothing more nothing less... then it sounds bland and dull...
it they use their interpritation, and... not change the pice, but... tweek it here and there.... then it because an art to do so.
yay, i found an eexample, lol.
they can always be told what to do, but the art comes in taking that, and interpritating it in such a way that it's no longer bland and souless....
when a true actor is acting... they aren't thinking... ok, now i need to twitch my left eye to show i'm adjitated.... they just do it because they aren't thinking about it.... they are that person....

hmm.. i've kinda lost my flow again, lol.... o well.... i hope some of that made some sence....

hee hee, yes, indeed he is magneto also... it would be really foolish to list all his rolse too... but i knew you're know that one..

still don't know Judey Dench?
......... can someone help me out here? :relief:
she's..... damn... i can't think right now :relief:
umm... oo, idea:
http://www.djdchronology.com/djdmainpage.htm
and yes... i've been spelling it wrong.... shh :releif:

[Kinsao]

Y'know, I can't believe we're still arguing about this. And everyone else is too restrained just to go... "omg how childish" :okashii:

[furan]

cos... um... i'd say it was more of a debate than an agument now....
but that's cos i like to avoid conflict..... but at the same time love to express my opinion....

[Horizon]

ah.... it's the interpritation of that tho....
human effort to imitate that would be covered by acting, wouldn't it?
and... i thing drama is one of the libral arts... but i'm not sure, so... you can shoot me if i'm wrong
Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the baker; the blacksmith's art. that too... acting covers that.....


you are awear that there is an artist who basically thinks up the idea and gets his students to paint it, right?
i dis agree with it, but... hey, he's liked by a lot of people (sorry, if forgotten his name... a pop-artist)

although... actually all these examples that are coming to my head would then prove that the artist is the director... not the actor....
i mean... in the end it's up to you what you decid art is or not.... but...
what about a pianist playing... mozart?
their interpirtation of the pice makes all the difference... if they simply play what's written down, nothing more nothing less... then it sounds bland and dull...
it they use their interpritation, and... not change the pice, but... tweek it here and there.... then it because an art to do so.
yay, i found an eexample, lol.
they can always be told what to do, but the art comes in taking that, and interpritating it in such a way that it's no longer bland and souless....
when a true actor is acting... they aren't thinking... ok, now i need to twitch my left eye to show i'm adjitated.... they just do it because they aren't thinking about it.... they are that person....

hmm.. i've kinda lost my flow again, lol.... o well.... i hope some of that made some sence....

hee hee, yes, indeed he is magneto also... it would be really foolish to list all his rolse too... but i knew you're know that one..

still don't know Judey Dench?
......... can someone help me out here? :relief:
she's..... damn... i can't think right now :relief:
umm... oo, idea:
http://www.djdchronology.com/djdmainpage.htm
and yes... i've been spelling it wrong.... shh :releif:

You have any proof that actors do the same? With the entire 'tweaking' thing?

And as long as they add in their own elements, which would be pretty obvious for anyone who listened to that type of music then, yes, it's still art I suppose.

But I appreciate paintings, drawings, et cetera and literature over actual music anyway.

And, as for the artists, or painters in my case here, they're called studios I think and I think the people who paint the head guy's ideas are his students and are probably learning. I'll ask my art teacher tommorrow about this actually.

And yeah...He probably has a sh*t load...Okay...Take that 'probably' out :relief:

[Horizon]

Y'know, I can't believe we're still arguing about this. And everyone else is too restrained just to go... "omg how childish" :okashii:

This is actually a debate or a discussion. Not an argument. People have really got to learn the difference between these things! It's not really an argument until people become rude and/or display close-minded and/or insulting behavior. Kind of like these ones:

maybe you're too young to understand that
good for us that horizon is not an actor
Sorry, but if you can say that, please take your head out your ***.


Before these comments I was actually kind of enjoying this discussion. Or, at least with Furan anyway.

Not to mention the main one I'm quoting here as there is absolutely nothing 'childish' about having an intellectual discussion that involves people expressing their views whatsoever. In fact, it's quite an 'adult' thing to do, considering how, in the grown-up world, people engage in such activites all the bloody time.

Now, on the other hand, it gets extremely childish when people begin to get a bit on the rude side and throw around such language, rude sayings, and things that pretty much can be considered as insults. Kind of like what you just did a little while ago.

[furan]

You have any proof that actors do the same? With the entire 'tweaking' thing?

And, as for the artists, or painters in my case here, they're called studios I think and I think the people who paint the head guy's ideas are his students and are probably learning. I'll ask my art teacher tommorrow about this actually.

And as long as they add in their own elements, which would be pretty obvious for anyone who listened to that type of music then, yes, it's still art I suppose.

But I appreciate paintings, drawings, et cetera and literature over actual music anyway.

And yeah...He probably has a sh*t load... :relief:
um um um....... yes but... dificult to show you.....

i could get an actor in here to talk to you, lol.....a really good family friend of ours is a brillient actor....
he dose entire plays by himself, most notably robbin hood.... playing all the merry men... it's so funny XD
he uses scripts as a guidline, but he derives the stuff himself... he's very good, but he doen't get many gigs because he does a lot of frelance work...


ah, no... i mean there's an actuall artist who doesn't actually do any of his own work.....
yet he sells them on in his name and takes all the credit for it....
i wish i could remeber his name >.<

but what if their own eleent is the emotion behind it.....
they may not actually change an single note or timeing of the piece.... but... well a trained ear at least can tell the difference between a pice with no emotion and a pice with....
what if the art comes from being able to do exactly what's being asked of them.... but make it their own at the same time?

haha, yeah.... he's been in a lot of films and plays... i think... (don't quote me on this) but i think him and Judi Dench where int he royal shakespear company together... like, at the same time..... i'm not sure tho...
still supprised you haven't heard of her ^^;

and.... um...
maybe it's just the fact that we're all typing here and we have no idea what the real emotion is behind a lot of things that are said.... but.... you do have a tendency to sound.... confrontational....
i know i have a bad habit of sounding patroniseng.... but i don;t mean it in the slightest.
you're very clear about what you believe, and you're not willing to back down just because someone disagrees with you, which.... can come across as agressive sometimes...
so i can see where some people are coming from when they believe this to be an agument of such.....
but.... don't worry, i never like to think a person's trying to be nasty or horrible untill i have a LOT of proof pointing that way....

lol, if i'd taken you seriously from the start.... haha
i remeber our first debate..... on how old Gackt was :D

[Kinsao]

I'm just a ***** who enjoys making unpleasant remarks. Nuff said.

[Horizon]

um um um....... yes but... dificult to show you.....

i could get an actor in here to talk to you, lol.....a really good family friend of ours is a brillient actor....
he dose entire plays by himself, most notably robbin hood.... playing all the merry men... it's so funny XD
he uses scripts as a guidline, but he derives the stuff himself... he's very good, but he doen't get many gigs because he does a lot of frelance work...


ah, no... i mean there's an actuall artist who doesn't actually do any of his own work.....
yet he sells them on in his name and takes all the credit for it....
i wish i could remeber his name >.<

but what if their own eleent is the emotion behind it.....
they may not actually change an single note or timeing of the piece.... but... well a trained ear at least can tell the difference between a pice with no emotion and a pice with....
what if the art comes from being able to do exactly what's being asked of them.... but make it their own at the same time?

haha, yeah.... he's been in a lot of films and plays... i think... (don't quote me on this) but i think him and Judi Dench where int he royal shakespear company together... like, at the same time..... i'm not sure tho...
still supprised you haven't heard of her ^^;

and.... um...
maybe it's just the fact that we're all typing here and we have no idea what the real emotion is behind a lot of things that are said.... but.... you do have a tendency to sound.... confrontational....
i know i have a bad habit of sounding patroniseng.... but i don;t mean it in the slightest.
you're very clear about what you believe, and you're not willing to back down just because someone disagrees with you, which.... can come across as agressive sometimes...
so i can see where some people are coming from when they believe this to be an agument of such.....
but.... don't worry, i never like to think a person's trying to be nasty or horrible untill i have a LOT of proof pointing that way....

lol, if i'd taken you seriously from the start.... haha
i remeber our first debate..... on how old Gackt was :D

How would I know he's an actor? There's no way to prove it. And, once again, actors who improvise get bonus marks in my book as they do need to create something up.

As for the 'artist' who makes others paint out his ideas, he's still an artist as well, because he came up with the idea. Although he shouldn't take full credit of it and, well, if he did, you probably wouldn't know about, now would you?

And, actually, you don't seem very much patronizing whatsoever and, actually, you're pretty good for debating here, but it is still obvious as to what is meant with such comments as "take your head out of your ***" or whatever the hell that comment was.

Ditto, ditto! :p

Huh? We had a debate about that? :?

I'm just a ***** who enjoys making unpleasant remarks. Nuff said.

That goes triple for me, but I'm still capable of biting my tongue so to speak and I also have slight knowledge as to when a particular comment isn't appropriate to the discussion at hand.

"'Nuff said".

[Kinsao]

I am sorry Horizon, because I really didn't mean offence at you or at your opinions. :souka: I just thought of one your comment sounded stupid... but i didn't mean it at all of your comments!!!

anyways, I am not person too proud to apologise if i offended you :bluush:
*ouch*
*ouch*
*hates apologising but grits teeth because she is now grown up* lol at self

but I am a little confuse... i don't know whether you say is acting 'art' or not, or if you say 'skilful/unskilful'? Because for certain, if someone can do something badly, it need skill to do well, yes? and, can you think of any you consider bad actors, so, they have not the skill. But of course, if you find it easy, you maybe have the natural skill...? but is not so easy for everyone! :souka:

oh, and have a drink! :beer:
:wave:

[Horizon]

Thank you for apologizing. I too am sorry if I ever had uttered anything not quite nice :sorry:


And, well, yes. I never did say anything about actors not having talent. Or at least the 'good' ones. Or at least I can't remember. I think the good actors are talented, yes, but I can't see the difference between say...Hyde and Sir Ian McKellin. Now, I can tell the difference between say, Halle Berry and Colin Ferral, 'cause last guy sucks completely and utterly. I can tell good from bad and vice versa, but beyond that I don't see anything else.

...

Do you get what I'm saying here? :relief:

xD

[furan]

lol
i'm now going out to talk to someone who.... will hopefully be able to give me a valid statment that can show that acting is an art form...... hopefully :relief:


and yes.... i mentioned about Miyavi;s foavorit colour being pink... but not believe ing him because he aslo said his star sign was pegasus and his blood type was ABC.... and stated his real stast which i con't be botheresd to do again, and then you were like, how can you possibly have any proof of that... and then.... yeah, it wasn't really a debate, we were just throwing words at eachother and pkk intervined before we destroyed the entire thread, lol
i can't remeber how we got on the subject of Gackt tho...... :?

o dear... i remeber the most appauling things :relief:

[Kinsao]

*runs off to measure Miyavi*
:car:

[Japanimaniac]

Well, I kept out of here this whole time because I wasn't going to get into slinging mud, but since we've calmed down, I'll comment again. Anything can be an art (including acting), but everyone isn't going to see it as art, depending on their interests. Martial arts is an art, but lots of people just see it as fighting. Painting a naked woman is supposedly art, but all I see is breasts. XD

But...yeah. I'm more into music than I am acting, so I see music as more of an art than acting. That doesn't mean acting isn't an art, it just means I'm not in that clique deep enough to see the details.

[Horizon]

True, true I suppose, Japanimaniac...

lol
i'm now going out to talk to someone who.... will hopefully be able to give me a valid statment that can show that acting is an art form...... hopefully :relief:


and yes.... i mentioned about Miyavi;s foavorit colour being pink... but not believe ing him because he aslo said his star sign was pegasus and his blood type was ABC.... and stated his real stast which i con't be botheresd to do again, and then you were like, how can you possibly have any proof of that... and then.... yeah, it wasn't really a debate, we were just throwing words at eachother and pkk intervined before we destroyed the entire thread, lol
i can't remeber how we got on the subject of Gackt tho...... :?

o dear... i remeber the most appauling things :relief:


I still don't remember that...o.0 But then again, horrid memory...:relief:

EDIT: I remember the Miyavi thing as it just came back to me, but I still don't remember the Gackt thing.

[furan]

ahh.... thank you Janapmanic ^.^

well... i've just come back from seeing my two friends who've both just finished their art foundation corses.... we came up with this:
performance arts is an art form, acting is an art form.... but actors are not necessarily artists.....
how's that sound?

also, um... if you pic up any art magazine.... you'll find a performance arts section in it :relief:


hee hee
umm..... i can't remeber what thread it was in..... posibly the miyavi thread but....
i thinkit may have been pkk who said, and gackt's 300 so...
and you were like, psh.... if gackst's 400 then im as lod as hell it's self, or something like that....
i was like.... wasn't it 300?
and then pkk woulda said waw... you must be pretty wringky then
you said don't you think a 300 year old would be too?
and i was like, no..... cos he's a vampire....
then you were like, don;t you think someone as old as hell it's self would have some kind of preservation powers like a vampire....

...... i think :relief:
god... i wish my memoprie was this great for school... then maybe i'd have passed those exams :relief:

[Horizon]

Alright! That works perfectly!

Ahhhh...I remember now! And it was "Earth itself", not Hell I do so believe.

And that really wasn't an argument really...It was mostly us being a bunch of dorks to say the least.

[furan]

YAAAAAAAAAY! *has a party*

lol, yeah... i didn't think it was hell.... but i just said it to fill in the gap :relief:
haha, and you got that right!

[IceFusion]

Well i just wanted to say that Hyde and Gackt are both great singers, i have not seen them act as of yet, id like to see Moon Child but im not really into violent movies [Jet Li violence is cool with me tho]
And yes their looks are an added bonus to their singing abilities.
Gackts dancing abilities are .... hhmm.... whats the word ... *thinks* uhm lacking i would say, but not entirely necessary, he can just sit there and sing for all i care. They both totally rock!

[Ivzee*~]

luv hyde b/c he's sooooo very very cute and l'arc en ciel is good! And he's nice and he's loyal to his wife :love:
even ur name is Hyde-sama ^^

[Ivzee*~]

I dun really like gackt tho, although he's got the looks. his music's weird to me.....in japan his voice is very good but me and my friends get scared cuz it's so deep and reminds me of men opera thingies.... XD
sorry gackt music fans! :sorry:

[Ivzee*~]

i realized that pl who like hyde usually doesn't really like gackt and ppl who likes gackt usually dun like hyde.......Probablly maybe cuz ppl who liek hyde and ppl who like gackt are completely different ppl ..hehehe that's just interesting to me :-)