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Vinylhoer
Apr 15, 2004, 19:29
I was trying to translate some of the kanji that was posted in this post:
http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.php?p=75302&postcount=10

In the first sentence I saw these kanji: 事実無根
Babelfish gave the meaning 'Factual non root'. That didn't mean anything to me so then I decided to look up the individual Kanji en thought maybe a better explanation of 事実無根 would be 'rumour' (事実 = fact, 無根 = without root/source?? --> a fact without a source = rumour).

I'm I thinking the right way here or am I wrong? :?

-edit- url to post and should learn to use cut and paste better :D -edit-

PaulTB
Apr 15, 2004, 19:51
I was trying to translate some of the kanji that was posted in this thread:
http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8083

In the first sentence I saw these kanji: 事実事実
Um, those kanji aren't in that thread.
Babelfish gave the meaning 'Factual non root'.
You don't want to use Babelfish to translate words.
That didn't mean anything to me so then I decided to look up the individual Kanji en thought maybe a better explanation of 事実無根
Different kanji that time round.
would be 'rumour' (事実 = fact, 事実
Er, 無根.
= without root/source?? --> a fact without a source = rumour).
Pretty good - ignoring the bit where you keep mixing up 無根 and 事実 :-P

WWWJDIC (http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/wwwjdic.html) says
事実無根 【じじつむこん】 (n) groundless; entirely contrary to fact; (P)

Vinylhoer
Apr 15, 2004, 20:42
:blush: :blush: :blush:

Next time I'll wake up first before I post questions like this :blush:

And I know I shouldn't use babelfish, but I didn't have anything else and I thought it made sense. Kanji dictionary is on it's way to me right now :)

My dictionary uses 噂 for rumour. Does that have a different meaning then 事実無根?

PaulTB
Apr 15, 2004, 20:48
My dictionary uses 噂 for rumour. Does that have a different meaning then 事実無根?
Sure, a rumour may or may not have some truth to it - but 事実無根 is an assertion that there is no basis to some position / story.