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Kitano Yuri
Jun 10, 2004, 20:00
In one song I've met such construction:
noun + "to" + verb which ends with -u
What does it mean?
PaulTB
Jun 10, 2004, 20:28
In one song I've met such construction:
noun + "to" + verb which ends with -u
What does it mean?
Probably
http://www.pikkle.com/jgram/viewOne.php?tagE=tosuru
although an example wouldn't have hurt.
Kitano Yuri
Jun 10, 2004, 21:42
Arigato. Well, it is from song of Dir en grey (The Final):
虚しき華と知る
I've translated it as "I understand useless flower", but I'm not sure at all :(
PaulTB
Jun 10, 2004, 21:57
Arigato. Well, it is from song of Dir en grey (The Final):
虚しき華と知る
I've translated it as "I understand useless flower", but I'm not sure at all :(
A-ha! It's a typo.
It's supposed to be
散る not 知る
[EDIT]
Incidently there's a translation here (66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:uaVUO9j3FikJ:www.diary.ru/~raison-detre%3F%26p%3D9+munashiki+hana+to+chiru&hl=en).
Kitano Yuri
Jun 10, 2004, 22:29
:( There was translation to Russian. In future I won't try to translate something until I check all Russian sites :(
Ano... in those kanji that I've found in first chrous was 虚しき華と知る, and in the second 虚しき華と散る.
Well, and you know where I can find English (or Russian^____^) translation of "Obscure" (DeG)? I can't find it anywhere :( And kanji lyrics too.
PaulTB
Jun 10, 2004, 22:38
:( There was translation to Russian.
Look more carefully, there's an English version.
Ano... in those kanji that I've found in first chrous was 虚しき華と知る, and in the second 虚しき華と散る.
The second makes sense, but the first doesn't to me.
> 手の中には生きた意味刻んでも 虚しき華と知る
even inscribing the "raison d'etre" in X's hands, X find it(=X's raison d'etre) a mere flower of vanity.
知る(しる - siru)--->know, learn, understand, find etc.
PaulTB
Jun 11, 2004, 17:25
Well, and you know where I can find English (or Russian^____^) translation of "Obscure" (DeG)? I can't find it anywhere :( And kanji lyrics too.
http://www.utamap.com/show.php?surl=B/B05207&title=OBSCURE&artist=Dir+en+grey
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