China Bashing in USA

TuskCracker · Oct 10, 2007, 00:12

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From someone who watches too much News,Politcal-Talk-Shows, the new boogeyman is Mainland/Communist China.

Do some political groups need a "boogeyman" ?

Toys with Lead-Paint, isn't this the companies fault more than the country ?

Why aren't the companies being blamed for toys with very dangerous levels of "Lead Paint" ?

Doesn't "Loue Dobb" every say anything good about Mainland/Communist China ?

Jobs going to China is a big issue, but jobs were going to Mexico, Indonesia, Bulgaria, on and on...

If the "jobs and products" going to China, why don't we stop the import of their products ?

**Goldiegirl** · Oct 10, 2007, 04:00

I blame China for trying to make money from being cheap and underhanded and I blame the USA for wanting cheap chinese made garbage. The Chinese couldn't care less if defective products kill their population, they are over-populated already, and any loss just lessens the burden.

dragonalumni · May 2, 2008, 04:39

America and China are so in bed with each other at the top level, everything that is said is just a distraction from the reality, the low level population is getting sqrewed on both sides of the water.

**Uncle Frank** · May 2, 2008, 04:45

Last nights news mentioned the US FDA will open a branch in China to work more closely with the Chinese over-seeing what gets sent to the US.

Uncle Frank

tokapi · May 2, 2008, 15:38

Good,America should not import contaminated foodstuff

Yan · Jun 9, 2008, 09:28

Americans are just jalous because they fear to be exceeded by China because the economy is growing up.

**Goldiegirl** · Jun 10, 2008, 04:50

Certainly Yan, you must be kidding. The USA isn't jealous, the USA doesn't want to be poisoned, doesn't want to be over taken by a communist country that thwarts freedom, free trade, freedom of religion, politics etc. We fear a country that WILL NEED the worlds resources to feed it's ever growing population and it's country can not provide all of that. China will need to get the earths resources anyway it can.

It was hoped by most American's that if China became more worldly, more economically sound that they would become freer. That their people would demand personal freedom. Instead they are placated with a cell phone and monitored internet service, and Cola Cola or in other words, the illusion of freedom. The Chinese who want better from China are either dead (killed by the Chinese Gov.), imprisoned, or living in foreign countries. So sad....

NegativeBeef · Jun 10, 2008, 14:50

Originally Posted by Goldiegirl

Certainly Yan, you must be kidding. The USA isn't jealous, the USA doesn't want to be poisoned, doesn't want to be over taken by a communist country that thwarts freedom, free trade, freedom of religion, politics etc. We fear a country that WILL NEED the worlds resources to feed it's ever growing population and it's country can not provide all of that. China will need to get the earths resources anyway it can.

It was hoped by most American's that if China became more worldly, more economically sound that they would become freer. That their people would demand personal freedom. Instead they are placated with a cell phone and monitored internet service, and Cola Cola or in other words, the illusion of freedom. The Chinese who want better from China are either dead (killed by the Chinese Gov.), imprisoned, or living in foreign countries. So sad....

Why don't you actually answer the question?

**Goldiegirl** · Jun 10, 2008, 22:35

What question would you like me to answer? I think I made my point very clearly. Maybe you couldn't understand it???

NegativeBeef · Jun 10, 2008, 23:28

Originally Posted by Goldiegirl

What question would you like me to answer? I think I made my point very clearly. Maybe you couldn't understand it???

The original question was: Why aren't the companies being blamed for toys with very dangerous levels of "Lead Paint." And whatever you stated was completely irrelevant to the question.

It's like me asking: "where is the bathroom?" And you responding "It's 5:30 in the afternoon"

Do you not know how to answer a question?

Mikawa Ossan · Jun 11, 2008, 06:40

Negative Beef, I don't see you adding much to this discussion, yourself.

If you're going to complain about someone else's posts, at least have the courtesy to lead by example.

If I were Goldiegirl, I would feel completely justified to outright ignore your request, as you are not answering the question, either.

Consider this a warning. Do not continue to complain about Goldiegirl's posts without adding your own insight into this issue.

tokapi · Jun 11, 2008, 09:10

Majority of poisoning cases in America are " domestic "

a related article @ http://science.nationalgeographic.co...-how-safe.html

* statistics on people died of food poisoning in America

http://www.everydayhealth.com/Public...FQgWiQodYw1zWg

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&start=10&sa=N

**Goldiegirl** · Jun 11, 2008, 09:14

I am sure that there are plenty of food poison case that are based solely in the USA...there is a difference though. In China it is a deliberate and calculated act.

tokapi · Jun 11, 2008, 09:34

... huh ...

Provide some news articles or internet links concerning " let's bring down America " conspiracy of The Red Menace ( China ).

Recent scandal about contamination in Japan's Tezukuri Hitokuchi Gyoza - Chinese made frozen foods that unfortunately poisoned several families recently. It now came to light that somebody deliberately injected harmful drugs into the package, possibly in an attempt at murder. People should be leery and informed about this, but that stops when this is the only thing on the news for an entire week, several times a day.

And this is far from the first time.What about a few months ago when people suspected a Chinese company of making gyoza from cardboard ? It was later proven to be a hoaxe, and yet all I heard was "I knew I shouldn't trust Chinese products." IT WAS NOT REAL, and yet peoples minds were somehow already decided.

Whats more, these products were not smuggled into Japan, they were legally imported. Maybe China has different health standards than Japan, that is probably true, but all food brought to Japan is still subject to import inspection. It still must pass the health standards of Japan to be sold there ( or here in the US ). If I can't bring in a bag of beef Jerky accross the border, I am damn sure importers must be inspected. So don't blame the company for selling inferior products, they never lied about it. Blame the import company - blame JT Food products or ( US companies ).

This sort of news is a distraction from bigger problems.In English we say,"the best trick the devil ever used on humans was to convice then he didnt exist."

tokapi · Jun 11, 2008, 10:14

Let " the truth speak ",shall we

America's #1 toymaker Mattel " officially apologized " to China

The company admitted that most of its toy recalls were due to its own design flaws, not Chinese manufacturers.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20903731/

* related news articles

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1T4...=Google+Search

Elizabeth · Jun 11, 2008, 12:59

Originally Posted by tokapi

Whats more, these products were not smuggled into Japan, they were legally imported. Maybe China has different health standards than Japan, that is probably true, but all food brought to Japan is still subject to import inspection. It still must pass the health standards of Japan to be sold there ( or here in the US ). If I can't bring in a bag of beef Jerky accross the border, I am damn sure importers must be inspected.

Oh, really ? You are so sure the Chinese are not in massive nonconpliance since 1% of food shipped or trucked across borders is inspected before being distributed ??

Even Olympic athletes are forced into a position of supplying their own food. The problem of adultrated food exports is so widespread the
government only knows how to resort to threats of life sentences or even execution for company heads that violate the new regulations.

http://www.wellnessresources.com/fre...s_food_supply/

tokapi · Jun 11, 2008, 16:10

***************** mad cow disease ALERT

*******************

* 80,000 locals protest against US beef import.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=5037524

* Japan also suspended beef from US

http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=4392

**Mars Man** · Jun 11, 2008, 18:58

Just to make sure. The topic of this thread is, 'China bashing in the USA,' thus we would looking at what's happening in the USA that can be considered China bashing, and that only...unless we have some embedding on that, and I don't see any of that in the several above posts, so . . .

harrystone · Jul 20, 2009, 22:32

China and America should get benefit from each other and prosper together.

Oct 10, 2007, 04:00	#2
Goldiegirl Sister Earth Join Date: Aug 10, 2006 Location: Old Ashippun, WI Posts: 1,340 Blog Entries: 12	I blame China for trying to make money from being cheap and underhanded and I blame the USA for wanting cheap chinese made garbage. The Chinese couldn't care less if defective products kill their population, they are over-populated already, and any loss just lessens the burden. __________________ I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it. ~Jack Handey

May 2, 2008, 04:45	#4
Uncle Frank You SPAM/We BAN ! Join Date: May 21, 2003 Location: State of Maine Age: 59 Posts: 6,715	Maybe changes coming? Last nights news mentioned the US FDA will open a branch in China to work more closely with the Chinese over-seeing what gets sent to the US. Uncle Frank __________________ TAKE WHAT I SAY WITH A GRAIN OF SUGAR !! I USED TO BE FUNNY, BUT MY WIFE HAD ME NEUTERED!

Jun 10, 2008, 14:50	#8
NegativeBeef Junior Member Join Date: Jun 10, 2008 Posts: 5	Originally Posted by Goldiegirl Certainly Yan, you must be kidding. The USA isn't jealous, the USA doesn't want to be poisoned, doesn't want to be over taken by a communist country that thwarts freedom, free trade, freedom of religion, politics etc. We fear a country that WILL NEED the worlds resources to feed it's ever growing population and it's country can not provide all of that. China will need to get the earths resources anyway it can. It was hoped by most American's that if China became more worldly, more economically sound that they would become freer. That their people would demand personal freedom. Instead they are placated with a cell phone and monitored internet service, and Cola Cola or in other words, the illusion of freedom. The Chinese who want better from China are either dead (killed by the Chinese Gov.), imprisoned, or living in foreign countries. So sad.... Why don't you actually answer the question?

Jun 10, 2008, 23:28	#10
NegativeBeef Junior Member Join Date: Jun 10, 2008 Posts: 5	Originally Posted by Goldiegirl What question would you like me to answer? I think I made my point very clearly. Maybe you couldn't understand it??? The original question was: Why aren't the companies being blamed for toys with very dangerous levels of "Lead Paint." And whatever you stated was completely irrelevant to the question. It's like me asking: "where is the bathroom?" And you responding "It's 5:30 in the afternoon" Do you not know how to answer a question?

Jun 11, 2008, 06:40	#11
Mikawa Ossan 一寸先は光 Join Date: Sep 17, 2005 Location: 中西部 Posts: 3,520 Blog Entries: 51	Negative Beef, I don't see you adding much to this discussion, yourself. If you're going to complain about someone else's posts, at least have the courtesy to lead by example. If I were Goldiegirl, I would feel completely justified to outright ignore your request, as you are not answering the question, either. Consider this a warning. Do not continue to complain about Goldiegirl's posts without adding your own insight into this issue. __________________ Chukyo Dai Chukyo bansai!!!!

Oct 10, 2007, 00:12	#1
TuskCracker AmericaFlorida Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 528	China Bashing in USA - From someone who watches too much News,Politcal-Talk-Shows, the new boogeyman is Mainland/Communist China. Do some political groups need a "boogeyman" ? Toys with Lead-Paint, isn't this the companies fault more than the country ? Why aren't the companies being blamed for toys with very dangerous levels of "Lead Paint" ? Doesn't "Loue Dobb" every say anything good about Mainland/Communist China ? Jobs going to China is a big issue, but jobs were going to Mexico, Indonesia, Bulgaria, on and on... If the "jobs and products" going to China, why don't we stop the import of their products ? __________________ NewYorkCity/WashingtonDC/Bonn/London/Tokyo, the rest is mullet wrap

May 2, 2008, 04:39	#3
dragonalumni American Join Date: Mar 23, 2007 Location: CHINA Posts: 7	America and China are so in bed with each other at the top level, everything that is said is just a distraction from the reality, the low level population is getting sqrewed on both sides of the water.

May 2, 2008, 15:38	#5
tokapi Banned Join Date: Sep 8, 2007 Location: 外宇宙 Posts: 809	Good,America should not import contaminated foodstuff

Jun 9, 2008, 09:28	#6
Yan Regular Member Join Date: Jun 8, 2008 Location: Saguenay, Quebec Posts: 142	Americans are just jalous because they fear to be exceeded by China because the economy is growing up.

Jun 10, 2008, 04:50	#7
Goldiegirl Sister Earth Join Date: Aug 10, 2006 Location: Old Ashippun, WI Posts: 1,340 Blog Entries: 12	Certainly Yan, you must be kidding. The USA isn't jealous, the USA doesn't want to be poisoned, doesn't want to be over taken by a communist country that thwarts freedom, free trade, freedom of religion, politics etc. We fear a country that WILL NEED the worlds resources to feed it's ever growing population and it's country can not provide all of that. China will need to get the earths resources anyway it can. It was hoped by most American's that if China became more worldly, more economically sound that they would become freer. That their people would demand personal freedom. Instead they are placated with a cell phone and monitored internet service, and Cola Cola or in other words, the illusion of freedom. The Chinese who want better from China are either dead (killed by the Chinese Gov.), imprisoned, or living in foreign countries. So sad....

Jun 10, 2008, 22:35	#9
Goldiegirl Sister Earth Join Date: Aug 10, 2006 Location: Old Ashippun, WI Posts: 1,340 Blog Entries: 12	What question would you like me to answer? I think I made my point very clearly. Maybe you couldn't understand it???

Jun 11, 2008, 09:10	#12
tokapi Banned Join Date: Sep 8, 2007 Location: 外宇宙 Posts: 809	Majority of poisoning cases in America are " domestic " a related article @ http://science.nationalgeographic.co...-how-safe.html * statistics on people died of food poisoning in America http://www.everydayhealth.com/Public...FQgWiQodYw1zWg http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&start=10&sa=N

Jun 11, 2008, 09:14	#13
Goldiegirl Sister Earth Join Date: Aug 10, 2006 Location: Old Ashippun, WI Posts: 1,340 Blog Entries: 12	I am sure that there are plenty of food poison case that are based solely in the USA...there is a difference though. In China it is a deliberate and calculated act.

Jun 11, 2008, 09:34	#14
tokapi Banned Join Date: Sep 8, 2007 Location: 外宇宙 Posts: 809	... huh ... Provide some news articles or internet links concerning " let's bring down America " conspiracy of The Red Menace ( China ). Recent scandal about contamination in Japan's Tezukuri Hitokuchi Gyoza - Chinese made frozen foods that unfortunately poisoned several families recently. It now came to light that somebody deliberately injected harmful drugs into the package, possibly in an attempt at murder. People should be leery and informed about this, but that stops when this is the only thing on the news for an entire week, several times a day. And this is far from the first time.What about a few months ago when people suspected a Chinese company of making gyoza from cardboard ? It was later proven to be a hoaxe, and yet all I heard was "I knew I shouldn't trust Chinese products." IT WAS NOT REAL, and yet peoples minds were somehow already decided. Whats more, these products were not smuggled into Japan, they were legally imported. Maybe China has different health standards than Japan, that is probably true, but all food brought to Japan is still subject to import inspection. It still must pass the health standards of Japan to be sold there ( or here in the US ). If I can't bring in a bag of beef Jerky accross the border, I am damn sure importers must be inspected. So don't blame the company for selling inferior products, they never lied about it. Blame the import company - blame JT Food products or ( US companies ). This sort of news is a distraction from bigger problems.In English we say,"the best trick the devil ever used on humans was to convice then he didnt exist."

Jun 11, 2008, 10:14	#15
tokapi Banned Join Date: Sep 8, 2007 Location: 外宇宙 Posts: 809	Let " the truth speak ",shall we America's #1 toymaker Mattel " officially apologized " to China The company admitted that most of its toy recalls were due to its own design flaws, not Chinese manufacturers. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20903731/ * related news articles http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1T4...=Google+Search

Jun 11, 2008, 12:59	#16
Elizabeth Regular Member Join Date: Apr 22, 2003 Location: アメリカ Posts: 8,509	Originally Posted by tokapi Whats more, these products were not smuggled into Japan, they were legally imported. Maybe China has different health standards than Japan, that is probably true, but all food brought to Japan is still subject to import inspection. It still must pass the health standards of Japan to be sold there ( or here in the US ). If I can't bring in a bag of beef Jerky accross the border, I am damn sure importers must be inspected. Oh, really ? You are so sure the Chinese are not in massive nonconpliance since 1% of food shipped or trucked across borders is inspected before being distributed ?? Even Olympic athletes are forced into a position of supplying their own food. The problem of adultrated food exports is so widespread the government only knows how to resort to threats of life sentences or even execution for company heads that violate the new regulations. http://www.wellnessresources.com/fre...s_food_supply/ __________________ たとえ辛くても、永遠に続く苦しみなどないでしょう。 Last edited by Elizabeth; Jun 11, 2008 at 14:07.

Jun 11, 2008, 16:10	#17
tokapi Banned Join Date: Sep 8, 2007 Location: 外宇宙 Posts: 809	*************** mad cow disease ALERT ***************** * 80,000 locals protest against US beef import. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=5037524 * Japan also suspended beef from US http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=4392

Jun 11, 2008, 18:58	#18
Mars Man Kami-sama Join Date: Jul 28, 2005 Posts: 4,292 Blog Entries: 1	Just to make sure. The topic of this thread is, 'China bashing in the USA,' thus we would looking at what's happening in the USA that can be considered China bashing, and that only...unless we have some embedding on that, and I don't see any of that in the several above posts, so . . .

Jul 20, 2009, 22:32	#19
harrystone Banned Join Date: Jul 20, 2009 Posts: 5	China and America should get benefit from each other and prosper together.

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