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The history of Buddhism in Japan
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Very interesting. I was wondering where Buddhism in Japan came from, although I thought that it came from India. Or did the Japanese bring Buddhism to India? I'm confused.
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Luz-chan
Shakyamuni Buddha (the historical figure) was born in the area located on the present border of India and Nepal. Shakyamuni Buddha traveled primarily around the present day Bihar area of NE India, teaching to the people of that geographic area. Over the 2,500 years since the Buddha's passing, the teachings took two routs across Asia. The Southern Rout is what we know as the Theravadin School of Buddhism, which traveled to Sri Lanka, Thailand, Burma, Laos, Cambodia and into Vietnam. The Nothern Rout is what we know as the Mahayana School of Buddhism, which traveled into China then from China on to Korea, Vietnam and Japan.
The following is some basic information I drew from the web on Buddhism in Japanese history:
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wow!! Kakusen!!! you astound me again!!!
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Great explanation! No offence, but I thought it would be greater if one point is added on it....
Prince Shotoku did not made Buddhism an "official religion" - instead he announced that all Japanese should regard Shinto as the "main trunk of a tree" and Buddhism is its "branch" - It is a very unique idea of him and we cannot found in any other country in any time - having multiple religions by regarding Shinto (multiple gods) as a basic religion of all Japanese, and Buddhism added on it. It also explains why many Japanese go to Shrine or Church for wedding and Temples for funeral. Shotokutaishi originally came up to this idea seemingly in order to avoid conflicts and wars between two religions . In Shinto there is an idea of Yaoyorozunokami (=eight million = countless gods everywhere), and I imagine it was not an issue for them to accept gods from other religions as well in the end. Buddha might have been regarded as one of foreign gods in Shinto such as Karanokami (=God of Korea) at the first time introduced to Japan. |
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Hi Ken...
Thank you for the clarification. It should probably also be noted that every country that Buddhism has come to, Buddhism made a point of finding some common ground with the official spirituality of that nation. In India the Hindus say that Shakyamuni Buddha was an incarnation of Vishnu. In China, Ch'an is a union of Taoism and Dhyana. And so it was with Shintoism and Buddhism in Japan. In Gassho, Kakuzen |
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Hi Kakuzen,
Thanks, and I thought my previous post needs a correction. Japan is not the only country having multiple religions combined as you pointed - as per your comment China, India etc... interesting to find such a similarity in other Asian country. |
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This is such an interesting thread, I'm going to bump it up to the front so others won't miss it!!
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budabuda
hi everybody ...
i mostly keen on art.especially uygur wall paintings ... at the aşokon peiod its told that buddhism spread so wide from greece,egypt,other middle east territories,c.asia,to japan. the buddhist way of life at uygur territories called out to be burhanizm,burkanizm...the mturkish word of UYGAR (modern and civilizated) is derived from uygur-like. buddhism and shamanizm(kam really) seems to be effective deep in meaning still at turkey. people here in turkey respects buda,even some extremely religious ones... but we wonder why people worship buda instead of his ideas?? one god many way...we should wellcome humanity........
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Aaaltunn,
Is Buddhism practiced in Turkey, or is it something that is similar to Buddhism, but not Buddhism exactly?
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Originally Posted by Buntaro
hi buntaro...
well the main religion of turks in turkey is islam (%99) buddhism WAS the main religion of uygur turks(now islam) shamanism lamaizm and budism are used to be the religion of turks of some central asian and far north asian territories... buddhism is not practiced in turkey really(less maybe...) ,not similar to... referring to oktay sinanoğlu: uygur buddhism has so great influences on turkic muslim idea as well as shamanism ... well its not surprising that the muslim humanitirian mevlana celaleddin rumi is from turkey (konya) his main idea was : its not much important who you are ...everyone wellcomes bst rgrds.....
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There is one group that I know of who is trying to get a Sangha started in Istanbul. If anyone is interested then the following contact information may be helpful:
Contact: Erol Inelmen Bebek, Istanbul 80815 Turkey Email: inelmen@boun.edu.tr Kakuzen |
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I tried to contact him but no answer
They are still trying starting, or gave up????
Originally Posted by Kakuzen
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This is some really interesting stuff, thanks Kakuzen and everyone contributing
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lhamo - Maybe you could try to check the phone listings for Erol Inelmen in Bebek, Istanbul. I'm not sure if he is still trying to get a Buddhist group together, or if he has already been sucessful in doing so, or if he has given up entirely. Keep looking for him lhamo! Together you might found the first Buddhist Sangha in Turkey.
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ok, thank you
when I go to Istanbul I will try to call him |
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The history of Buddhism in Japan
... starts with umayadonotoyotomiminomikoto
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Thank you kakuzen for the useful bit of information in my search. I had to clock back in i spent so much time reading. Do you have any more information?-Buddhist in the making-
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EscaFlowne,
Do you want more info on Buddhism in Japan, or Buddhism in general? |
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Originally Posted by EscaFlowne
I would be delighted to offer you as much information as you might enjoy good friend. Perhaps you would like to visit the Buddhist website where I assist as a moderator and have a look around.
http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism Respectfully, KZ |
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i WILL be siging up today! Do you use the same name?
And Buntaro Probally zen Buddhism--[One through meditation] I think thats the one that intrigues me the most. So thats the one that i would prefer information from. But i will be reading about each in time.
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EscaFlowne,
On the Buddhist Forum, I use the name Skywalker. Maybe I will see you there. Regarding Zen, if that is something that resonates with you, I hope that you can find the information that you are looking for. It took me many years to find what resonates with me. It was worth the wait! |
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Thanks bun-bun!!
you've been a big help. And i mean i will sign up today!
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FYI the name I PRESENTLY use at E-Sangha is Zenshin. Yet I will be changing it soon due to recent ordination. I moderate several forums there, including the Zen fourm. See you soon!
Respectfully, ZS |
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Dear friends: My name has now been changed both here on J-Ref, and also at E-Sangha, to reflect the new dharma name that was given to me at my Tokudo ordination ceremony with the Jodo-shu.
In Gassho, Hoyu (FKA. Kakuzen) |
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