About the Andrew debito section

MagicalMagican · Oct 3, 2003, 07:01

Ok here this what I see about that section.The at section is just stupid.There's rasicsm in all countries.There problems in all countries so japna not just theonly one.I kow this site is all about japan but you guys make it seems like japan the only country that does that and everyone elses country is perfect.Maybe its just me but I think you guys should not argue about how raceist and like in they US they still have KKK.And like Jamaica how the pepole there try to hunt down tourist and stuff.This is from my experince and it was not good at all.

So this is what I think about that part of the fourm.This is what I thiink it may not sem right to any of you but I mean this to no offense to anyone.

ghettocities · Oct 3, 2003, 07:34

Racism sucks, the only people I hate are red-heads and meter maids, curse them both.

Josh

http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com

budd · Oct 3, 2003, 08:41

JAPAN reference.com
which, by my observation discusses views, events, and questions regarding JAPAN...
if this was a jamaican forum
if this was an american forum
no offense meant either...

MagicalMagican · Oct 3, 2003, 09:15

ok ok it was a stupid post it was just at the moment.Sorry

budd · Oct 3, 2003, 09:18

hold on bebbe! i ain't trying to bust nobody out! if that's an opinion, let's discuss it

Gaki · Oct 3, 2003, 20:41

I ony read one of the articles about the no foreigner policy on public baths.

Showed the article to my English friend, who said :
"If i was Japanese i probably wouldnt want a white man in a bath with me as well".

I just didnt understand what was the big deal about using public baths....i'd rather be in soapland rather than in a bath seeing other mens lovesticks....

ghettocities · Oct 3, 2003, 20:53

Originally posted by Gaki
I ony read one of the articles about the no foreigner policy on public baths.

Showed the article to my English friend, who said :
"If i was Japanese i probably wouldnt want a white man in a bath with me as well".

I just didnt understand what was the big deal about using public baths....i'd rather be in soapland rather than in a bath seeing other mens lovesticks....

Hahahaha, that's the funniest thing i've heard all day.

Josh

http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com

MagicalMagican · Oct 4, 2003, 07:03

I rather just take a shower in my own house by myself too.

Anguz · Oct 6, 2003, 01:00

I'd love to use public baths, not because I care to see anyone naked, but they're bigger than what you can have at your house.. like taking a bath in a pool hehehe

I can imagine why they wouldn't want a foreigner using their baths though... it's most probably because of the fear that they won't watch the bath etiquette, specially getting into the water without having thoroughly cleaned their bodies first

and that'd put them in a very uncomfortable situation, cause it could be rude to tell you to not get in the water if you didn't clean, also they wouldn't feel confident they can communicate with you to tell you... they'd probably have to leave the bath earlier than they would've liked, not good

so, probably, when I have the chance to do it, I'd go with a local friend... that'd give others some peace, cause they'd feel your friend will make sure you do it right and they could tell him if something wasn't right... after a few times going their, I'd try going alone, since they know my face already

just a thought, not sure if it's this way, but that's how I see it with what little I know about it

Tiger · Oct 6, 2003, 02:04

One of my friends knows the American guy who was one of the people who got barred from the public bath (Otaru is about 30 minutes from where I live). He said the American guy is a complete f**kwit, and he wouldn't let him use his bath either.

I should probably point out, that my friend is also American (and not Japanese!)

Hehe...

Tiger

MagicalMagican · Oct 6, 2003, 12:05

::Yawn:: Well I still say having a bath at your own house by yourself is better cause why would you want anyone to see you naked or soemthing.

Anguz · Oct 6, 2003, 14:32

more than wanting to be seen naked, I think it's a matter of not minding it...

budd · Oct 6, 2003, 14:52

a year or so ago i went to an onsen in asakusa -- the guys at taito ryokan were responsible

the rocks were really nice... but i remembered why i didn't play football in high school

Mandylion · Oct 6, 2003, 14:52

If you are talking about just the local, run-of-the-mill public baths, then I would rather stay home. But if you go to a real onsen, hot springs, they have some of the most amazing baths you have ever seen. Some of them are outside facing the ocean, or a nice garden, or have wonderful views. It is really hard to explain, but once you go, you'll know what I mean. Plus, I don't have the cash to take long, hot baths at home. Water gets cool after what, thirty minutes? Energy costs in Japan are very high, so for many people going to an onsen or public bath is a cheap way to relax.

As for the nakedness issue, Anguz is right. It is a matter of not minding. What you got they haven't seen? You get towels to preserve a bit of privacy. Also in Japan bathing was/is a community-strengthening activity, just like it was for the Romans.

As for foreigners not knowing the bathing rules, some Japanese people have different bathing rules (you don't get in covered with soap, but when can you first get in? Before washing for a quick soak or after? I'll match you person for person on bathing styles). I can understand the communication concerns, and yes, some people are just plain stupid, but almost every tourist who asks me about the dos and don'ts of life here brings up what is the "right" way to take a bath.

Public baths; you either love 'em or hate 'em.

budd · Oct 6, 2003, 15:35

love hina!

Mashu · Oct 7, 2003, 09:09

Originally posted by ghettocities
Racism sucks, the only people I hate are red-heads and meter maids, curse them both.

I thought you were halfway cool Josh. Why you hatin' on my red hair?

MagicalMagican · Oct 8, 2003, 07:45

Well the thing If you see someone your really like in the showers and stuff

But about the rasicm thing I am rasist to not culture color or ethinicty. If I hate you its becasue of your personaltiy or you just act really stupid in public places.

And I'm happy to be way.

Oct 3, 2003, 07:01	#1
MagicalMagican Regular Member Join Date: Sep 9, 2003 Posts: 26	About the Andrew debito section Ok here this what I see about that section.The at section is just stupid.There's rasicsm in all countries.There problems in all countries so japna not just theonly one.I kow this site is all about japan but you guys make it seems like japan the only country that does that and everyone elses country is perfect.Maybe its just me but I think you guys should not argue about how raceist and like in they US they still have KKK.And like Jamaica how the pepole there try to hunt down tourist and stuff.This is from my experince and it was not good at all. So this is what I think about that part of the fourm.This is what I thiink it may not sem right to any of you but I mean this to no offense to anyone.

Oct 3, 2003, 08:41	#3
budd __________ Join Date: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 1,972	i see that, but the title (as far as i know) is JAPAN reference.com which, by my observation discusses views, events, and questions regarding JAPAN... if this was a jamaican forum if this was an american forum no offense meant either... __________________ ttp://www.tcvb.or.jp/

Oct 3, 2003, 20:41	#6
Gaki Emperor Gakihito Join Date: Jul 3, 2003 Location: London Age: 27 Posts: 417	I ony read one of the articles about the no foreigner policy on public baths. Showed the article to my English friend, who said : "If i was Japanese i probably wouldnt want a white man in a bath with me as well". I just didnt understand what was the big deal about using public baths....i'd rather be in soapland rather than in a bath seeing other mens lovesticks.... __________________ I Live In Your Toilet, Smells Bad In Here... My Comic Strip Blog: http://www.kuso4649gaki.co.uk

Oct 3, 2003, 20:53	#7
ghettocities Banned Join Date: Jun 16, 2002 Location: Corvallis, Oregon. Age: 27 Posts: 604	Originally posted by Gaki I ony read one of the articles about the no foreigner policy on public baths. Showed the article to my English friend, who said : "If i was Japanese i probably wouldnt want a white man in a bath with me as well". I just didnt understand what was the big deal about using public baths....i'd rather be in soapland rather than in a bath seeing other mens lovesticks.... Hahahaha, that's the funniest thing i've heard all day. Josh http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com

Oct 6, 2003, 14:52	#14
Mandylion Omnipotence personified Join Date: Mar 15, 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,121	If you are talking about just the local, run-of-the-mill public baths, then I would rather stay home. But if you go to a real onsen, hot springs, they have some of the most amazing baths you have ever seen. Some of them are outside facing the ocean, or a nice garden, or have wonderful views. It is really hard to explain, but once you go, you'll know what I mean. Plus, I don't have the cash to take long, hot baths at home. Water gets cool after what, thirty minutes? Energy costs in Japan are very high, so for many people going to an onsen or public bath is a cheap way to relax. As for the nakedness issue, Anguz is right. It is a matter of not minding. What you got they haven't seen? You get towels to preserve a bit of privacy. Also in Japan bathing was/is a community-strengthening activity, just like it was for the Romans. As for foreigners not knowing the bathing rules, some Japanese people have different bathing rules (you don't get in covered with soap, but when can you first get in? Before washing for a quick soak or after? I'll match you person for person on bathing styles). I can understand the communication concerns, and yes, some people are just plain stupid, but almost every tourist who asks me about the dos and don'ts of life here brings up what is the "right" way to take a bath. Public baths; you either love 'em or hate 'em. __________________ "It's a dn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." - Andrew Jackson**

Oct 3, 2003, 07:34	#2
ghettocities Banned Join Date: Jun 16, 2002 Location: Corvallis, Oregon. Age: 27 Posts: 604	Racism sucks, the only people I hate are red-heads and meter maids, curse them both. Josh http://www.ghettocitiesclothing.com

Oct 3, 2003, 09:15	#4
MagicalMagican Regular Member Join Date: Sep 9, 2003 Posts: 26	ok ok it was a stupid post it was just at the moment.Sorry

Oct 3, 2003, 09:18	#5
budd __________ Join Date: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 1,972	hold on bebbe! i ain't trying to bust nobody out! if that's an opinion, let's discuss it

Oct 4, 2003, 07:03	#8
MagicalMagican Regular Member Join Date: Sep 9, 2003 Posts: 26	I rather just take a shower in my own house by myself too.

Oct 6, 2003, 01:00	#9
Anguz Junior Member Join Date: Aug 27, 2003 Location: Taxco, Mexico. Age: 33 Posts: 13	I'd love to use public baths, not because I care to see anyone naked, but they're bigger than what you can have at your house.. like taking a bath in a pool hehehe I can imagine why they wouldn't want a foreigner using their baths though... it's most probably because of the fear that they won't watch the bath etiquette, specially getting into the water without having thoroughly cleaned their bodies first and that'd put them in a very uncomfortable situation, cause it could be rude to tell you to not get in the water if you didn't clean, also they wouldn't feel confident they can communicate with you to tell you... they'd probably have to leave the bath earlier than they would've liked, not good so, probably, when I have the chance to do it, I'd go with a local friend... that'd give others some peace, cause they'd feel your friend will make sure you do it right and they could tell him if something wasn't right... after a few times going their, I'd try going alone, since they know my face already just a thought, not sure if it's this way, but that's how I see it with what little I know about it

Oct 6, 2003, 02:04	#10
Tiger Regular Member Join Date: Nov 24, 2002 Age: 37 Posts: 127	One of my friends knows the American guy who was one of the people who got barred from the public bath (Otaru is about 30 minutes from where I live). He said the American guy is a complete f**kwit, and he wouldn't let him use his bath either. I should probably point out, that my friend is also American (and not Japanese!) Hehe... Tiger

Oct 6, 2003, 12:05	#11
MagicalMagican Regular Member Join Date: Sep 9, 2003 Posts: 26	::Yawn:: Well I still say having a bath at your own house by yourself is better cause why would you want anyone to see you naked or soemthing.

Oct 6, 2003, 14:32	#12
Anguz Junior Member Join Date: Aug 27, 2003 Location: Taxco, Mexico. Age: 33 Posts: 13	more than wanting to be seen naked, I think it's a matter of not minding it...

Oct 6, 2003, 15:35	#15
budd __________ Join Date: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 1,972	love hina!

Oct 7, 2003, 09:09	#16
Mashu Regular Member Join Date: Sep 6, 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 24 Posts: 56	Originally posted by ghettocities Racism sucks, the only people I hate are red-heads and meter maids, curse them both. I thought you were halfway cool Josh. Why you hatin' on my red hair?

Oct 8, 2003, 07:45	#17
MagicalMagican Regular Member Join Date: Sep 9, 2003 Posts: 26	Well the thing If you see someone your really like in the showers and stuff But about the rasicm thing I am rasist to not culture color or ethinicty. If I hate you its becasue of your personaltiy or you just act really stupid in public places. And I'm happy to be way.

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