promiscous youth and AIDS

Maciamo · Sep 11, 2002, 19:49

What do you think about this ? Newsweek published an article about how libertine Japanese youth really is. It's mind-boggling when you see the little precaution they take and how quickly AIDS could spread in this reputedly HIV safe country.
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According to a joint study by the University of California San Francisco and Hiroshima University, of 602 teens (age 15 to 19) surveyed in the Shibuya section of Tokyo recently, 43 percent said they keep five or more sex friends at a time. In a similar survey of 16-year-olds in two rural prefectures, 20 percent of boys and 18 percent of girls said they have at least five sex partners. “To many young Japanese people, everything about sex is casual,” says Masako Ono-Kihara, a public-health expert at Hiroshima University School of Medicine. “Girls now share their boyfriends like they’d share chips. Everyone’s hand is in the bag.”

“Condoms are hard to sell in Japan right now because young adults refuse to use them,”

moyashi · Sep 12, 2002, 03:07

Maybe, they should put a condom inside a chocolate toy. You could have tanks, bunnies, cats, fish, just like all the other miniture toy thingys that are so popular now.

thomas · Sep 12, 2002, 05:56

I'd like to know more about how J-medicare treats HIV-positive.

moyashi · Sep 12, 2002, 13:37

So would I.

A friend died of Aids here in Japan. His final diaognosis was pnuemonia so that is what he officially died of. It's standard practice to use the "final" cause of death to use for news and such.

I don't know where he contracted though. Possibly in the US.

I didn't know he was positive until I saw the red bands at his funeral and the large amount of young men that clued me in.

So, sorry I don't know more than what I wrote above.

thomas · Sep 12, 2002, 22:46

It's still a social stigma, not only in Japan...

Maciamo · Sep 12, 2002, 23:18

Yesterday, I saw a girl getting off the train at Roppongi. Her arms were so thin it couldn't be natural. It's probably AIDS. That's the first time I notice someone like this (in Japan).

thomas · Sep 12, 2002, 23:46

Hm, could also be anorexia, cancer or a whole lot of other nice diseases. Ugh, I could never study medicine...

moyashi · Sep 13, 2002, 04:22

Were they skinny or skinny boney?

I've seen women who I thought would snap like a twig if the wind blew too strang before ...

Problem is that not many take the test.

thomas · Sep 13, 2002, 06:07

I was tested in the army. It's was a bit scary, although I haven't indulged in any risky adventures. Some less scrupulous friends of mine have postponed their tests for years.

moyashi · Sep 14, 2002, 00:06

@ risky adventures

;)

deborah gormley · Sep 16, 2002, 06:56

I think that the younger generation of the entire world treats sex as "the normal thing to do" and its become a way of life for them, the contraction of aids is a mere side effect, and is becoming more and more exceptable, where as us jiji's(hehe)find this totally unbeleivable that young people who par-take in these activities actually have no conscience and take no precautions against this real killer! its really there and its really a killer!

Maciamo · Sep 16, 2002, 11:28

Debs, I believe that young Westerners are more conscious of the risks they take. As often, Japanese tend not to think to much about their responsibilities (cf. absent fathers, selfish & irresponsible politicians, teen prostitution, salarymen sex-trips to Bangkok, irresponsible bank/company managers that put the whole economy in jeopardy, just to cite a few).

moyashi · Sep 17, 2002, 00:41

here, here!

Debs sorry you're a "baba" not a jiji. Jiji is for us men ;)

Let's not forget the sell your panties and bras shops! New type of shop have a magic mirror where the freak can pick his girl. Then they go to a room where she drops here panties in front of the freak. This is like a proof of purchase and freshness you might say.
I saw on a TV show:
panties $80
bra $90
spit $70
pee $80

hmmm, not bad for a few minutes of waiting and a few minutes with a freak. Nothing was mentioned about pictures. That might be against the law or maybe that freak didn't want to spend more money.

deborah gormley · Sep 17, 2002, 01:00

auck!! now thats just plain sick!

lol those poor men, lol, whats wrong with there heads

@ Baba, thats great, because here a "jiji" is something other than an old fart, (hehe)

Baba sounds so much nicer! lol

moyashi · Sep 17, 2002, 02:09

Glad you think so ;)

Here's something a friend and I were discussing. Apparently during some meeting with leaders from around the world that gathered in Osaka (lol ... don't know what or when) the sex shops were shut down. During that time Rape spiked and fell off after the shops were re-opened.

So, I guess that the services that service these weirdos do have a benefit.

hmmm ...

deborah gormley · Sep 17, 2002, 05:33

hmmm suppose you are right, some-one has to service the weirdos,and if they are paying for it, then some poor girl is being left alone and without harm

I just looked over your post again moyashi and it that spit as in from the mouth, and pee as in hmmm dont know how to phrase that one lol, but pee as we all know it?

I'v just thought on the laungage difference, and whats obvious to you just might mean something different to me, just curious

moyashi · Sep 17, 2002, 09:45

spit, yes, from the mouth. Just wonder if goobbers are sold too? (you know the ones you hack up from the throat)

pee, hmm, we also say "number 1" or urine if you're at the hospital. If you like [oshiko or shiko] in Japanese.

How do you say them? Wondering

thomas · Sep 18, 2002, 05:25

From the news:

Kanagawa cop held for looking up woman's skirt

=> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content...at=2&id=230559

Read the comments.

deborah gormley · Sep 18, 2002, 08:01

lol, yes we also refer to pee as No1 ect, there are also more words discribing No1's here, piss, leak, slash, and many more lol

but to pay for this fluid is is so unbelievable

I just cant believe it

Olivia · Sep 19, 2002, 00:08

@aids
another reason for which japanese people don't worry about aids probably is because they believe physicians and scientists will find the cure for it, in short term. i've seen such opinions, not only once, but many times...

@pee
gosh, that's so grosse! they really are some weirdos, perverts...

@cop
he's a 50-year-old 'jiji', for Christ sake... what is wrong about these people???

moyashi · Sep 20, 2002, 01:28

@ cops
A lot are getting arrested recently. Funny that they're doing something at all. My father-in-law was just saying tonight while drunk that most cops don't do squat.
And he's a Civil Servant!

What's wrong? There wives neglect them ;)

@ pee
slash? lol that's a new one for me. I'm orginally a New Yorker so I've got a great repetoire. ;)

Yeah! me and somebody on that thread that Thomas posted saw the same show.

@ aids
hmmm ... probably much more simple. I'm clean and the guy is clean. No worries.

deborah gormley · Sep 23, 2002, 06:54

@ cop lol those remarks are brill

moyashi · Sep 24, 2002, 03:32

@ aids
Here you go. Just tonight I was watching a TV drama and the main girl character has aids, sleeps around with anybody but with her boyfriend mentions that she can't have non-protected sex (she said "raw" though) but yet nothing in the story mentioning that this is wrong or what not. The boyfriend was more put off by her adventures in porn and promiscious life style ;)

deborah gormley · Sep 24, 2002, 08:04

wow!! thats scary stuff, I hope that this drama does not reflect real life, if so then a girl who does such a thing should be taken up on charges of wilful neglect of a deadly virus or something at least, attempted murder sounds a bit strong, but thats what it boils down too, (I think)

moyashi · Sep 24, 2002, 10:06

hmmm, attempted murder would be good but the cops wouldn't prosecute since their too busy slurping their ramen ;)

Sep 11, 2002, 19:49	#1
Maciamo Twirling dragon Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: 西京 Posts: 6,677	promiscous youth and AIDS What do you think about this ? Newsweek published an article about how libertine Japanese youth really is. It's mind-boggling when you see the little precaution they take and how quickly AIDS could spread in this reputedly HIV safe country. Dangerous Liaisons According to a joint study by the University of California San Francisco and Hiroshima University, of 602 teens (age 15 to 19) surveyed in the Shibuya section of Tokyo recently, 43 percent said they keep five or more sex friends at a time. In a similar survey of 16-year-olds in two rural prefectures, 20 percent of boys and 18 percent of girls said they have at least five sex partners. “To many young Japanese people, everything about sex is casual,” says Masako Ono-Kihara, a public-health expert at Hiroshima University School of Medicine. “Girls now share their boyfriends like they’d share chips. Everyone’s hand is in the bag.” “Condoms are hard to sell in Japan right now because young adults refuse to use them,” __________________ Over 100 destinations in the Japan Sightseeing Guide Eupedia : Your Guide to Europe in English Read the "Maciamo FAQ" Follow me on Twitter "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone?", Winston Churchill.

Sep 12, 2002, 03:07	#2
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Maybe, they should put a condom inside a chocolate toy. You could have tanks, bunnies, cats, fish, just like all the other miniture toy thingys that are so popular now. __________________ crazy gonna crazy

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thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	I'd like to know more about how J-medicare treats HIV-positive. __________________ Remember what the dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head!

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deborah gormley Regular Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2002 Location: Nr. Ireland. Age: 40 Posts: 829	I think that the younger generation of the entire world treats sex as "the normal thing to do" and its become a way of life for them, the contraction of aids is a mere side effect, and is becoming more and more exceptable, where as us jiji's(hehe)find this totally unbeleivable that young people who par-take in these activities actually have no conscience and take no precautions against this real killer! its really there and its really a killer! __________________ Debs

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Sep 12, 2002, 13:37	#4
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	So would I. A friend died of Aids here in Japan. His final diaognosis was pnuemonia so that is what he officially died of. It's standard practice to use the "final" cause of death to use for news and such. I don't know where he contracted though. Possibly in the US. I didn't know he was positive until I saw the red bands at his funeral and the large amount of young men that clued me in. So, sorry I don't know more than what I wrote above.

Sep 12, 2002, 22:46	#5
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	It's still a social stigma, not only in Japan...

Sep 12, 2002, 23:18	#6
Maciamo Twirling dragon Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: 西京 Posts: 6,677	Yesterday, I saw a girl getting off the train at Roppongi. Her arms were so thin it couldn't be natural. It's probably AIDS. That's the first time I notice someone like this (in Japan).

Sep 12, 2002, 23:46	#7
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Hm, could also be anorexia, cancer or a whole lot of other nice diseases. Ugh, I could never study medicine...

Sep 13, 2002, 04:22	#8
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Were they skinny or skinny boney? I've seen women who I thought would snap like a twig if the wind blew too strang before ... Problem is that not many take the test.

Sep 13, 2002, 06:07	#9
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	I was tested in the army. It's was a bit scary, although I haven't indulged in any risky adventures. Some less scrupulous friends of mine have postponed their tests for years.

Sep 14, 2002, 00:06	#10
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	@ risky adventures ;)

Sep 16, 2002, 11:28	#12
Maciamo Twirling dragon Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: 西京 Posts: 6,677	Debs, I believe that young Westerners are more conscious of the risks they take. As often, Japanese tend not to think to much about their responsibilities (cf. absent fathers, selfish & irresponsible politicians, teen prostitution, salarymen sex-trips to Bangkok, irresponsible bank/company managers that put the whole economy in jeopardy, just to cite a few).

Sep 17, 2002, 00:41	#13
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	here, here! Debs sorry you're a "baba" not a jiji. Jiji is for us men ;) Let's not forget the sell your panties and bras shops! New type of shop have a magic mirror where the freak can pick his girl. Then they go to a room where she drops here panties in front of the freak. This is like a proof of purchase and freshness you might say. I saw on a TV show: panties $80 bra $90 spit $70 pee $80 hmmm, not bad for a few minutes of waiting and a few minutes with a freak. Nothing was mentioned about pictures. That might be against the law or maybe that freak didn't want to spend more money.

Sep 17, 2002, 01:00	#14
deborah gormley Regular Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2002 Location: Nr. Ireland. Age: 40 Posts: 829	auck!! now thats just plain sick! lol those poor men, lol, whats wrong with there heads @ Baba, thats great, because here a "jiji" is something other than an old fart, (hehe) Baba sounds so much nicer! lol

Sep 17, 2002, 02:09	#15
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Glad you think so ;) Here's something a friend and I were discussing. Apparently during some meeting with leaders from around the world that gathered in Osaka (lol ... don't know what or when) the sex shops were shut down. During that time Rape spiked and fell off after the shops were re-opened. So, I guess that the services that service these weirdos do have a benefit. hmmm ...

Sep 17, 2002, 05:33	#16
deborah gormley Regular Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2002 Location: Nr. Ireland. Age: 40 Posts: 829	hmmm suppose you are right, some-one has to service the weirdos,and if they are paying for it, then some poor girl is being left alone and without harm I just looked over your post again moyashi and it that spit as in from the mouth, and pee as in hmmm dont know how to phrase that one lol, but pee as we all know it? I'v just thought on the laungage difference, and whats obvious to you just might mean something different to me, just curious

Sep 17, 2002, 09:45	#17
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	spit, yes, from the mouth. Just wonder if goobbers are sold too? (you know the ones you hack up from the throat) pee, hmm, we also say "number 1" or urine if you're at the hospital. If you like [oshiko or shiko] in Japanese. How do you say them? Wondering

Sep 18, 2002, 05:25	#18
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	From the news: Kanagawa cop held for looking up woman's skirt => http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content...at=2&id=230559 Read the comments.

Sep 18, 2002, 08:01	#19
deborah gormley Regular Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2002 Location: Nr. Ireland. Age: 40 Posts: 829	lol, yes we also refer to pee as No1 ect, there are also more words discribing No1's here, piss, leak, slash, and many more lol but to pay for this fluid is is so unbelievable I just cant believe it

Sep 19, 2002, 00:08	#20
Olivia Regular Member Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil Posts: 126	@aids another reason for which japanese people don't worry about aids probably is because they believe physicians and scientists will find the cure for it, in short term. i've seen such opinions, not only once, but many times... @pee gosh, that's so grosse! they really are some weirdos, perverts... @cop he's a 50-year-old 'jiji', for Christ sake... what is wrong about these people???

Sep 20, 2002, 01:28	#21
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	@ cops A lot are getting arrested recently. Funny that they're doing something at all. My father-in-law was just saying tonight while drunk that most cops don't do squat. And he's a Civil Servant! What's wrong? There wives neglect them ;) @ pee slash? lol that's a new one for me. I'm orginally a New Yorker so I've got a great repetoire. ;) Yeah! me and somebody on that thread that Thomas posted saw the same show. @ aids hmmm ... probably much more simple. I'm clean and the guy is clean. No worries.

Sep 23, 2002, 06:54	#22
deborah gormley Regular Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2002 Location: Nr. Ireland. Age: 40 Posts: 829	@ cop lol those remarks are brill

Sep 24, 2002, 03:32	#23
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	@ aids Here you go. Just tonight I was watching a TV drama and the main girl character has aids, sleeps around with anybody but with her boyfriend mentions that she can't have non-protected sex (she said "raw" though) but yet nothing in the story mentioning that this is wrong or what not. The boyfriend was more put off by her adventures in porn and promiscious life style ;)

Sep 24, 2002, 08:04	#24
deborah gormley Regular Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2002 Location: Nr. Ireland. Age: 40 Posts: 829	wow!! thats scary stuff, I hope that this drama does not reflect real life, if so then a girl who does such a thing should be taken up on charges of wilful neglect of a deadly virus or something at least, attempted murder sounds a bit strong, but thats what it boils down too, (I think)

Sep 24, 2002, 10:06	#25
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	hmmm, attempted murder would be good but the cops wouldn't prosecute since their too busy slurping their ramen ;)