fate

Duncan · Jul 15, 2004, 19:37

Hello!
I have following question:
What do Japanese think about fate?

**NANGI** · Jul 15, 2004, 21:16

Konnichiwa Duncan-san!

I have following question:
What do Japanese think about fate?

The Japanese concept of "fate" is same as a Westerner now.

NANGI

Kama · Jul 16, 2004, 01:45

Now. And what about earlier?

I'm interested in this too.

BTW, there is a song of Zard "Unmei no roulette o mawashite" - "Spin the roulette of fate" [for Detective Conan/Meitantei Conan].

Duncan · Jul 16, 2004, 06:42

Thanks a lot for all yours posts

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**NANGI** · Jul 16, 2004, 10:15

Konnichiwa Kama-san!

Now. And what about earlier?

It is "Inga-Ouhou" or "Shikisoku-Zekuu". Sorry, I can't good explain in English.

But "Inga-Ouhou" is not "retribution".

BTW, there is a song of Zard "Unmei no roulette o mawashite" - "Spin the roulette of fate" [for Detective Conan/Meitantei Conan].

I think this ideas about "fate" is very Christian way of thinking.

NANGI

Kama · Jul 16, 2004, 18:57

Originally Posted by NANGI

Konnichiwa Kama-san!

It is "Inga-Ouhou" or "Shikisoku-Zekuu". Sorry, I can't good explain in English.
But "Inga-Ouhou" is not "retribution".

I think this ideas about "fate" is very Christian way of thinking.

NANGI

Konbanwa Nangi-san!

That's ok, now at last I know what to look for.

From Cambridge Dictionary:

fate
1 [C usually singular] what happens to a particular person or thing, especially something final or negative, such as death or defeat:

2 [U] a power that some people believe causes and controls all events, so that you cannot change or control the way things will happen.

destiny
1 [C] the things that will happen in the future

2 [U] the force that some people think controls what happens in the future, and which cannot be influenced by people

"Fate/Destiny" is Christian, but I think that "fate" as "karma" is also in Buddhist thinking. Of course, "karma" you can change by doing good deeds, but some people do believe that fate can be changed too. Of course in Buddhism and Shitno there is no "end of the world" liek in Christianity.

"Unmei" is always translated to destiny, but is its meaning close to this of "destiny" I wrote, or rather not?

P.S. for Duncan. ==> Nie dziekuj tyle, to wyglada komicznie... XD

**NANGI** · Jul 16, 2004, 19:45

Konnichiwa Kama-san!

"Unmei" is always translated to destiny, but is its meaning close to this of "destiny" I wrote, or rather not?

I think Japanese "Unmei" is same as "Fate/Destiny" that you wrote.

NANGI

Jul 15, 2004, 19:37	#1
Duncan Junior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2004 Location: Raciborz(Poland) Age: 29 Posts: 5	fate Hello! I have following question: What do Japanese think about fate?

Jul 15, 2004, 21:16	#2
NANGI Tutor Join Date: Jan 8, 2003 Location: I live in Kansai. Posts: 2,276	Konnichiwa Duncan-san! I have following question: What do Japanese think about fate? The Japanese concept of "fate" is same as a Westerner now. NANGI

Jul 16, 2004, 01:45	#3
Kama Okama XD Join Date: Mar 10, 2004 Location: Poland Age: 28 Posts: 366	Now. And what about earlier? I'm interested in this too. BTW, there is a song of Zard "Unmei no roulette o mawashite" - "Spin the roulette of fate" [for Detective Conan/Meitantei Conan]. __________________ ～ My LiveJournal You are welcome

Jul 16, 2004, 10:15	#5
NANGI Tutor Join Date: Jan 8, 2003 Location: I live in Kansai. Posts: 2,276	Konnichiwa Kama-san! Now. And what about earlier? It is "Inga-Ouhou" or "Shikisoku-Zekuu". Sorry, I can't good explain in English. But "Inga-Ouhou" is not "retribution". BTW, there is a song of Zard "Unmei no roulette o mawashite" - "Spin the roulette of fate" [for Detective Conan/Meitantei Conan]. I think this ideas about "fate" is very Christian way of thinking. NANGI

Jul 16, 2004, 18:57	#6
Kama Okama XD Join Date: Mar 10, 2004 Location: Poland Age: 28 Posts: 366	Originally Posted by NANGI Konnichiwa Kama-san! It is "Inga-Ouhou" or "Shikisoku-Zekuu". Sorry, I can't good explain in English. But "Inga-Ouhou" is not "retribution". I think this ideas about "fate" is very Christian way of thinking. NANGI Konbanwa Nangi-san! That's ok, now at last I know what to look for. From Cambridge Dictionary: fate 1 [C usually singular] what happens to a particular person or thing, especially something final or negative, such as death or defeat: 2 [U] a power that some people believe causes and controls all events, so that you cannot change or control the way things will happen. destiny 1 [C] the things that will happen in the future 2 [U] the force that some people think controls what happens in the future, and which cannot be influenced by people "Fate/Destiny" is Christian, but I think that "fate" as "karma" is also in Buddhist thinking. Of course, "karma" you can change by doing good deeds, but some people do believe that fate can be changed too. Of course in Buddhism and Shitno there is no "end of the world" liek in Christianity. "Unmei" is always translated to destiny, but is its meaning close to this of "destiny" I wrote, or rather not? P.S. for Duncan. ==> Nie dziekuj tyle, to wyglada komicznie... XD

Jul 16, 2004, 06:42	#4
Duncan Junior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2004 Location: Raciborz(Poland) Age: 29 Posts: 5	Thanks a lot for all yours posts .

Jul 16, 2004, 19:45	#7
NANGI Tutor Join Date: Jan 8, 2003 Location: I live in Kansai. Posts: 2,276	Konnichiwa Kama-san! "Unmei" is always translated to destiny, but is its meaning close to this of "destiny" I wrote, or rather not? I think Japanese "Unmei" is same as "Fate/Destiny" that you wrote. NANGI

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