Apple Rolls Out Cheaper iPods

Hachiko · Jul 20, 2004, 02:14

A tech article, though non-Japanese...

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Apple Computer Inc. on Monday introduced lower-priced versions of its iPod digital music player with longer battery life, positioning itself against rivals trying to use lower prices to undercut iPod sales.

Apple said the new model iPod has up to 12 hours of battery life, compared with eight hours in previous models. Poor battery performance in some iPods has drawn criticism.

The 20-gigabyte model, which can hold about 5,000 songs, has a list price of $299, lower than the previous price of $399 for a 20-gigabyte iPod. The 40-gigabyte model costs $399.

Yahoo! News

**playaa** · Jul 20, 2004, 02:26

I still don't see the point.. Call me wierd but the MP3 players never got to me, maybe this would be different if I lived in Japan or New York, places where you do not drive much, but I simply burn CD's and use my car's cd player.

TwistedMac · Jul 20, 2004, 02:58

i have no car =(

RockLee · Jul 20, 2004, 03:09

hehe...well I think apple is 3vil

so I wouldn't buy it in a 100 years!
hehe..you got a drivers license ??

TwistedMac · Jul 20, 2004, 03:25

no.. and everyone is bugging me about it.. my grandfather has this slick car and he told me to atleast back out the driveway and feel what it is to move a car... dude is crazy! i wouldve wrecked it for sure!

i think apple are the opposite of evil... i just think they're a bit stupid...

Steve Jobs was the only guy to stand up against Palladium though, and with that he earned my respect.

Lina Inverse · Jul 20, 2004, 11:37

Well, the previous problems had serious problems with the battery... hope they fixed that now and not only put in a larger capacity battery

-]5pace.pirat3]+ · Dec 2, 2004, 09:35

i cant image how much it must take to spin up a harddrive(so much for no moving parts

) minidisc longplay players have been past the 200 hour mark for years

Flashjeff · Dec 2, 2004, 09:38

I had an iPod and I love it to death! I take it with me everywhere, and since I don't own a car, it makes taking my music with me a whole lot easier than lugging around a portable CD player and a bunch of discs.

Anyuni_Nakashima · Dec 2, 2004, 10:58

Is this only in America and when is this lower price gonna start. I've been to Best Buy and Future Shop and no prices have changed. Doesn't matter anyway is still to pricey. There are so many Mp3 players on the market that are less, than half the price of the Ipod.

-]5pace.pirat3]+ · Dec 2, 2004, 11:26

sure but those cant hold a micron of the amount of data as an ipod

Flashjeff · Dec 2, 2004, 18:17

I agree with space pirate. The iPod not only holds an insane amount of music (somewhere around 10,000 songs on the 40GB model), it can also store pictures files, be used as an address book (which I currently do), it even has a couple of games. As the old saying goes, you get what you pay for, and for the money, you get a lot with an iPod!

Faustianideals · Dec 3, 2004, 22:19

iPod's are evil!

Flashjeff · Dec 4, 2004, 19:58

Originally Posted by Thor

iPod's are evil!

Well, if that's the case, then I don't mind being corrupted!

Faustianideals · Dec 5, 2004, 00:16

Originally Posted by flashjeff

Well, if that's the case, then I don't mind being corrupted!

You must think your very cute, eh?
Apple iPod's are horrible things. It deleted my music library when I plugged it in because it wasn't from the iTune's store.
I still kept my iPod because I recieved it as a gift. That's the only reason I still have it.

Keiichi · Dec 5, 2004, 03:18

Stuff happens... and that has never happened to me, and I've never used iTune's store even once.

Keiichi

Kei_Shugojin · Dec 5, 2004, 14:47

maybe thor had a different version of the Ipod?

ragedaddy · Dec 5, 2004, 15:41

Originally Posted by playaa

I still don't see the point.. Call me wierd but the MP3 players never got to me, maybe this would be different if I lived in Japan or New York, places where you do not drive much, but I simply burn CD's and use my car's cd player.

The Answer is:

I had an iPod and I love it to death! I take it with me everywhere, and since I don't own a car, it makes taking my music with me a whole lot easier than lugging around a portable CD player and a bunch of discs.

Yes, I have to agree with flash Jeff, because I have probably close to 400 cds, and being able to put all of them on a MP3 player saves me the effort of carrying around numerous books of cds. Especially if you are going on a trip, now you are able to fit a lot more things into your carry-on. Also, if you are rollerblading, or jogging, man it is extremely light to be carrying this MP3 player around. I guess I never got the concept of MD, although it was huge in Japan, it never was really successful here in the US. I have a 400mb in memory, but I think I'm gonna get hustled on the battery change (Since I have an older version), because they charge you mega bucks in order to change the battery. I heard it's about $60 to get the battery changed....man this new generation of I Pods look sweeeeeettt!!!!

Flashjeff · Dec 5, 2004, 19:18

Originally Posted by Thor

You must think your very cute, eh?
Apple iPod's are horrible things. It deleted my music library when I plugged it in because it wasn't from the iTune's store.
I still kept my iPod because I recieved it as a gift. That's the only reason I still have it.

Really? never heard of that happening! I've got a boatload of downloaded music in my iTunes library from LimeWare, not to mention a few from Napster (Shhhh! Don't tell anyone!) and never had a moment's worth of trouble! Heck, I don't even have anything from the iTunes store. You may have had some sort of software conflict. Technogeek I'm not, so I can't say for sure. In fact, I'm saving up my pennies for the brand new version which is sweet!

jspecdan · Dec 10, 2004, 14:20

my ipod crapped out on me recently. and lucky for me, my PC with all of my music and my firewire card is back home in the US. how awesome is that? luckily i know a few people who have ipods so they might be able to reformat my ipod and put in music that i've downloaded/ripped while in japan. i got mine as an xmas gift last year and it's been awesome...but i might look into getting an MD player. i unfortunately regret asking for an ipod.

budd · Dec 17, 2004, 10:56

minidisc (in japan)

Flashjeff · Dec 17, 2004, 19:11

A penpal I have swears by the minidisc. That was supposed to be the next great medium for recording music that would replace the cassette when it came out back in the early 90's, but CD recorders hit the market first and the minidisc was effectively doomed.

DoctorP · Dec 18, 2004, 00:22

Minidiscs are actually used quite a bit here in Japan. I see many cars with MD players and most of the home systems you see have them as well. I personally have never used them...I sure would like to get my hands on an IPOD though!

-]5pace.pirat3]+ · Dec 18, 2004, 04:47

Originally Posted by flashjeff

A penpal I have swears by the minidisc... but CD recorders hit the market first and the minidisc was effectively doomed.

i never heard of cd burners in 1992, cd's have higher capacity than the hdd's of the early 90's

md is the only way to go for portable hi-fi, with amps that provide 64x cd sampling rate (+1000hz) and standard built-in equalizers(ipod "sound quality"? please

) but they're still not the most convenient or no0b friendly

Sally_Hawn · Dec 18, 2004, 13:51

The good thing is Apple actually made more profits in the last quarter. The bad thing is Apple, once an icon in the computer industry, has lost its positioning. Maybe it will change its name to Apple Computer Inc. to Apple Ipod Inc...

By the way, I never try Ipod... got stuck with a MP3 + CD player.

Flashjeff · Dec 18, 2004, 18:58

Originally Posted by -]5pace.pirat3]+

i never heard of cd burners in 1992, cd's have higher capacity than the hdd's of the early 90's

md is the only way to go for portable hi-fi, with amps that provide 64x cd sampling rate (+1000hz) and standard built-in equalizers(ipod "sound quality"? please ) but they're still not the most convenient or no0b friendly

Well, if memory serves, the first CD burners, made by Pioneer I think were slow in coming out back then, and were expensive as hell at around a grand a pop. Nowadays you can buy 'em for just under $200!

As for the sound quality of my iPod, perhaps I have a tin ear, but the music I hear from them sounds pretty damn good to me, even with the accompanying bud headphones which do nothing for me.

Jul 20, 2004, 02:14	#1
Hachiko The Akita Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Age: 25 Posts: 1,377	Apple Rolls Out Cheaper iPods A tech article, though non-Japanese... NEW YORK (Reuters) - Apple Computer Inc. on Monday introduced lower-priced versions of its iPod digital music player with longer battery life, positioning itself against rivals trying to use lower prices to undercut iPod sales. Apple said the new model iPod has up to 12 hours of battery life, compared with eight hours in previous models. Poor battery performance in some iPods has drawn criticism. The 20-gigabyte model, which can hold about 5,000 songs, has a list price of $299, lower than the previous price of $399 for a 20-gigabyte iPod. The 40-gigabyte model costs $399. Yahoo! News __________________

Jul 20, 2004, 02:26	#2
playaa Dog Youkai Join Date: Jan 15, 2004 Location: Clovis, CA Age: 25 Posts: 774	I still don't see the point.. Call me wierd but the MP3 players never got to me, maybe this would be different if I lived in Japan or New York, places where you do not drive much, but I simply burn CD's and use my car's cd player. __________________ "Kanpeki to chau, jinsei no shuushi Puramai zero da nanteba honto ka na? Shinu made ni tsukaikiru, un no kazu Semete, jibun de dashiire wo sasete "

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Jul 20, 2004, 03:25	#5
TwistedMac 夜露死苦! Join Date: Mar 4, 2004 Location: orz.eu Age: 27 Posts: 2,044	no.. and everyone is bugging me about it.. my grandfather has this slick car and he told me to atleast back out the driveway and feel what it is to move a car... dude is crazy! i wouldve wrecked it for sure! i think apple are the opposite of evil... i just think they're a bit stupid... Steve Jobs was the only guy to stand up against Palladium though, and with that he earned my respect.

Dec 2, 2004, 09:35	#7
-]5pace.pirat3]+ eroticist Join Date: Nov 23, 2004 Location: silicon valley Age: 23 Posts: 69	i cant image how much it must take to spin up a harddrive(so much for no moving parts ) minidisc longplay players have been past the 200 hour mark for years __________________ You Suck! :winklove: myspace

Dec 2, 2004, 09:38	#8
Flashjeff Pink Lady's Number #1 Fan Join Date: Dec 28, 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 50 Posts: 1,377	I had an iPod and I love it to death! I take it with me everywhere, and since I don't own a car, it makes taking my music with me a whole lot easier than lugging around a portable CD player and a bunch of discs.

Dec 2, 2004, 10:58	#9
Anyuni_Nakashima Regular Member Join Date: Aug 30, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 95	Is this only in America and when is this lower price gonna start. I've been to Best Buy and Future Shop and no prices have changed. Doesn't matter anyway is still to pricey. There are so many Mp3 players on the market that are less, than half the price of the Ipod. __________________ Where a red ribbon and help promote the awareness and prevention of AIDS/HIV

Dec 2, 2004, 11:26	#10
-]5pace.pirat3]+ eroticist Join Date: Nov 23, 2004 Location: silicon valley Age: 23 Posts: 69	sure but those cant hold a micron of the amount of data as an ipod

Dec 2, 2004, 18:17	#11
Flashjeff Pink Lady's Number #1 Fan Join Date: Dec 28, 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 50 Posts: 1,377	I agree with space pirate. The iPod not only holds an insane amount of music (somewhere around 10,000 songs on the 40GB model), it can also store pictures files, be used as an address book (which I currently do), it even has a couple of games. As the old saying goes, you get what you pay for, and for the money, you get a lot with an iPod!

Dec 3, 2004, 22:19	#12
Faustianideals Comfortably Ignorant Join Date: Jul 15, 2004 Location: Illinois, USA Age: 21 Posts: 762	iPod's are evil!

Dec 4, 2004, 19:58	#13
Flashjeff Pink Lady's Number #1 Fan Join Date: Dec 28, 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 50 Posts: 1,377	Originally Posted by Thor iPod's are evil! Well, if that's the case, then I don't mind being corrupted!

Dec 5, 2004, 00:16	#14
Faustianideals Comfortably Ignorant Join Date: Jul 15, 2004 Location: Illinois, USA Age: 21 Posts: 762	Originally Posted by flashjeff Well, if that's the case, then I don't mind being corrupted! You must think your very cute, eh? Apple iPod's are horrible things. It deleted my music library when I plugged it in because it wasn't from the iTune's store. I still kept my iPod because I recieved it as a gift. That's the only reason I still have it.

Dec 5, 2004, 03:18	#15
Keiichi Hi Join Date: Mar 9, 2003 Posts: 818	Stuff happens... and that has never happened to me, and I've never used iTune's store even once. Keiichi __________________ K1

Dec 5, 2004, 14:47	#16
Kei_Shugojin Regular Member Join Date: Sep 8, 2004 Posts: 85	maybe thor had a different version of the Ipod? __________________ What are dreams? They're an extension of reality. Then where's my reality? It's at the end of your dream. When will I stop dreaming...?

Dec 5, 2004, 15:41	#17
ragedaddy もうすぐ卒業するんだ！ Join Date: Feb 17, 2003 Location: The Midwest Age: 30 Posts: 161	Originally Posted by playaa I still don't see the point.. Call me wierd but the MP3 players never got to me, maybe this would be different if I lived in Japan or New York, places where you do not drive much, but I simply burn CD's and use my car's cd player. The Answer is: I had an iPod and I love it to death! I take it with me everywhere, and since I don't own a car, it makes taking my music with me a whole lot easier than lugging around a portable CD player and a bunch of discs. Yes, I have to agree with flash Jeff, because I have probably close to 400 cds, and being able to put all of them on a MP3 player saves me the effort of carrying around numerous books of cds. Especially if you are going on a trip, now you are able to fit a lot more things into your carry-on. Also, if you are rollerblading, or jogging, man it is extremely light to be carrying this MP3 player around. I guess I never got the concept of MD, although it was huge in Japan, it never was really successful here in the US. I have a 400mb in memory, but I think I'm gonna get hustled on the battery change (Since I have an older version), because they charge you mega bucks in order to change the battery. I heard it's about $60 to get the battery changed....man this new generation of I Pods look sweeeeeettt!!!! __________________ ビール。。。Its what's for dinner......

Dec 5, 2004, 19:18	#18
Flashjeff Pink Lady's Number #1 Fan Join Date: Dec 28, 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 50 Posts: 1,377	Originally Posted by Thor You must think your very cute, eh? Apple iPod's are horrible things. It deleted my music library when I plugged it in because it wasn't from the iTune's store. I still kept my iPod because I recieved it as a gift. That's the only reason I still have it. Really? never heard of that happening! I've got a boatload of downloaded music in my iTunes library from LimeWare, not to mention a few from Napster (Shhhh! Don't tell anyone!) and never had a moment's worth of trouble! Heck, I don't even have anything from the iTunes store. You may have had some sort of software conflict. Technogeek I'm not, so I can't say for sure. In fact, I'm saving up my pennies for the brand new version which is sweet!

Dec 10, 2004, 14:20	#19
jspecdan Follower of None Join Date: Aug 14, 2003 Location: ...Saitama... Age: 26 Posts: 127	my ipod crapped out on me recently. and lucky for me, my PC with all of my music and my firewire card is back home in the US. how awesome is that? luckily i know a few people who have ipods so they might be able to reformat my ipod and put in music that i've downloaded/ripped while in japan. i got mine as an xmas gift last year and it's been awesome...but i might look into getting an MD player. i unfortunately regret asking for an ipod. __________________ _J-Spec Dan American born with Japanese specifications. Saitama - home of...initial D 4th Stage's WRX!

Dec 17, 2004, 10:56	#20
budd __________ Join Date: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 1,972	minidisc (in japan) __________________ ttp://www.tcvb.or.jp/

Dec 17, 2004, 19:11	#21
Flashjeff Pink Lady's Number #1 Fan Join Date: Dec 28, 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 50 Posts: 1,377	A penpal I have swears by the minidisc. That was supposed to be the next great medium for recording music that would replace the cassette when it came out back in the early 90's, but CD recorders hit the market first and the minidisc was effectively doomed.

Dec 18, 2004, 00:22	#22
DoctorP Regular Member Join Date: Jun 3, 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 1,793	Minidiscs are actually used quite a bit here in Japan. I see many cars with MD players and most of the home systems you see have them as well. I personally have never used them...I sure would like to get my hands on an IPOD though!

Dec 18, 2004, 04:47	#23
-]5pace.pirat3]+ eroticist Join Date: Nov 23, 2004 Location: silicon valley Age: 23 Posts: 69	Originally Posted by flashjeff A penpal I have swears by the minidisc... but CD recorders hit the market first and the minidisc was effectively doomed. i never heard of cd burners in 1992, cd's have higher capacity than the hdd's of the early 90's md is the only way to go for portable hi-fi, with amps that provide 64x cd sampling rate (+1000hz) and standard built-in equalizers(ipod "sound quality"? please ) but they're still not the most convenient or no0b friendly

Dec 18, 2004, 13:51	#24
Sally_Hawn Regular Member Join Date: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 118	The good thing is Apple actually made more profits in the last quarter. The bad thing is Apple, once an icon in the computer industry, has lost its positioning. Maybe it will change its name to Apple Computer Inc. to Apple Ipod Inc... By the way, I never try Ipod... got stuck with a MP3 + CD player.

Dec 18, 2004, 18:58	#25
Flashjeff Pink Lady's Number #1 Fan Join Date: Dec 28, 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 50 Posts: 1,377	Originally Posted by -]5pace.pirat3]+ i never heard of cd burners in 1992, cd's have higher capacity than the hdd's of the early 90's md is the only way to go for portable hi-fi, with amps that provide 64x cd sampling rate (+1000hz) and standard built-in equalizers(ipod "sound quality"? please ) but they're still not the most convenient or no0b friendly Well, if memory serves, the first CD burners, made by Pioneer I think were slow in coming out back then, and were expensive as hell at around a grand a pop. Nowadays you can buy 'em for just under $200! As for the sound quality of my iPod, perhaps I have a tin ear, but the music I hear from them sounds pretty damn good to me, even with the accompanying bud headphones which do nothing for me.

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