Pros and Cons about Japan

Eve · Aug 24, 2004, 11:55

I dunno anything yet. But im planning to go there next year. So what are the best and the worse things in japan right now?

Emoni · Aug 24, 2004, 12:01

Best thing: Some nice Japanese people that you will get to meet.

Worst thing: North Korea with a nuke nearby.

Eve · Aug 24, 2004, 12:14

What about the perverts? I heard theres a lot of perverts and stalkers in Japan??

Im a guy btw so dont really care =P

Emoni · Aug 24, 2004, 12:22

From everyone I have talked to, it would do you a great deal of good to try to give up any preconceptions you might have before you go. Something anyone would have a very hard time doing completely.

Try to take everything in as a clean slate as it should be, and try to be open to everything and learn. I intend to do the same if I go next year as well.

As for the perverts... I consider all men perverts in someway, and Japan has men so they have perverts too. :P

Eve · Aug 24, 2004, 12:29

lol i just wanna be cautious. Don't awnna get scammed or whatever when im gonna be there

MeAndroo · Aug 24, 2004, 12:48

What about the perverts? I heard theres a lot of perverts and stalkers in Japan??

Ah Japanese perverts. Some of the most aggressive ones out there, and sometimes, some of the most ignored by society. I have a couple of horror stories from my friends about public...displays as well as public acts.

As far as pros and cons, they differ from person to person. Depending on your personality, you may love the ludicrously crowded streets of Tokyo, or you may hate them (like me). You may find the amount of drunken people around irritating, or you may not notice them because you're just as drunk (also like me).

The perverts are usually a pretty regular answer though

jieshi · Aug 24, 2004, 12:58

hmmmm I don't think I have any cons about Japan! I love it all

though you could maybe say a con is sexual inequality and racism but they dont bother me that much either (obviously cause Im a guy, though i can get very fired up about how some men treat women as a piece of meat)

Eve · Aug 24, 2004, 13:56

theres racism in japan? whoa, who do they hate?

Emoni · Aug 24, 2004, 14:05

You...

Kidding ;)

There is pretty much racism everywhere in every country. You will find people who are racist, those who are not. Just be polite, and be yourself. People either will like you or dislike you. Nothing you can do about that.

Eve · Aug 24, 2004, 14:07

-.- are there a lot of school girls running around tokyo? =P

Emoni · Aug 24, 2004, 14:34

Why yes, and they are all RACIST PERVERTS too!

(Couldn't resist combining all those)

On a serious note, don't worry too much about what you can't prevent. Just plan ahead, and bring what you know you'll need and read about the area you will be going too. I'm sure others might have some more preperation advice too on the forum.

MeAndroo · Aug 24, 2004, 14:36

Originally Posted by Eve

-.- are there a lot of school girls running around tokyo? =P

Of course. There's school girls running around any major metropolis. They're just easier to see in Japan because of the required sailor uniforms.

Eve · Aug 24, 2004, 15:11

yes, i think those sailor uniforms are kinky =P

Ewok85 · Aug 24, 2004, 16:50

Con: foreigners.

Eve · Aug 24, 2004, 16:55

whats so bad about that

MeAndroo · Aug 24, 2004, 17:43

Originally Posted by Ewok85

Con: foreigners.

whats so bad about that

Oddly enough, as a foreigner, I hated other foreigners so much when I lived in Japan. It just irritated me to see them all over the place....it felt more like a Japantown than Japan at times. I really can't explain it, except that maybe I saw them behave so stupidly that I felt it reflected bad on me as a fellow foreigner? Anyways, spend enough time there, and you might end up disliking foreigners as well...especially those Nigerian doods in Roppongi who won't leave you alone.

Mike Cash · Aug 24, 2004, 18:08

Originally Posted by Eve

theres racism in japan? whoa, who do they hate?

Racism doesn't always manifest itself in the form of hatred. Discrimination is more common than hatred.

The really aggravating thing is when Japanese discriminate against you while saying "Oh, this isn't discrimination. I like foreigners."

Originally Posted by Eve

whats so bad about that

Danged if I know. I'm never around any.

Maciamo · Aug 24, 2004, 18:28

Originally Posted by Eve

theres racism in japan? whoa, who do they hate?

I suggest you read my article about discrimination in Japan (including racism)

Hero · Aug 25, 2004, 01:13

I'm a guy and I was stalked by groups of school girls, a drunk guy walkin down the street, and maybe a few others who did better job at stalking, rofl.

The school girls stalking me was cute.... but the drunk dude scared me >.<

Yeah those sailor uniforms are kinky, lol.

shotime77780 · Aug 25, 2004, 01:55

Originally Posted by Eve

yes, i think those sailor uniforms are kinky =P

right on brother!!! but dont under estimate them, they are armed with cutter knives and kitchen knives!!!

giant_robot · Aug 25, 2004, 02:14

Hmm, best and worst things? That sounds like a matter of opinion. My advice would be to start reading some of the stuff on this site, particularly in the Culture and Society categories. I found it to be very informative. Also, I've never been to Japan, but from what I hear they are very strict about politeness and customs, so failing to observe this could make for very bad first impressions with people, and make your stay much less enjoyable. I would suggest reading this article. That's all I got. Watch out for the pervs.

Eve · Aug 25, 2004, 05:31

ok thxs for ur help guys!

Apollo · Aug 25, 2004, 06:26

The Best thing about Japan: People, food, well....I could go on!

The Worst thing about Japan: ??? Maybe, expensive fruits, and expensive public transport.

About perverts in Japan: well, I hate those pervert guys who nearly rub their body on you in trains, subways etc...pretending it to be "accident" due to crowded subways....I just give them an angry stare, or push back and go somewhere else....they are soooo creepy!

-Yu- · Aug 25, 2004, 07:12

Sounds like you experienced that many times, but does it really happen often?
I mean, I haven neither seen the actual occasion nor heard my female friends say that kind of thing.(seeing it is almost impossible to happen though, cause they pretend it is caused by jiggle, right?)
I heard my mum say that some creepy guy sat down really close to her in desserted train so she felt something was wrong and decided to leave there, but during going to other compartment, she got some sense of being stalked.
When she turned back, the guy was staring at her in front of her, she just ran away screaming and eventually got off at station which wasn't her destination.
I think that must've been at least 25 years ago. I got surprised when I heard this story cause I can't really imagine there were stalkers at the time.
I'm sick of hearing this story from her over and over again, she thinks it is kind of evidence that she was pretty when she was young.

blessed · Aug 25, 2004, 07:22

con: that even if i live there, i still wont attain immortality.

Pros: everything else.

Aug 24, 2004, 11:55	#1
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	Pros and Cons about Japan I dunno anything yet. But im planning to go there next year. So what are the best and the worse things in japan right now?

Aug 24, 2004, 12:01	#2
Emoni The sinister Dr. Quake! Join Date: Sep 20, 2003 Location: Tokyo Age: 29 Posts: 1,359	Best thing: Some nice Japanese people that you will get to meet. Worst thing: North Korea with a nuke nearby. __________________ -Emoni "Been there, done that, came back, going again."

Aug 24, 2004, 12:48	#6
MeAndroo Regular Member Join Date: Jul 29, 2004 Location: Asago-shi, Hyogo-ken Age: 27 Posts: 776	What about the perverts? I heard theres a lot of perverts and stalkers in Japan?? Ah Japanese perverts. Some of the most aggressive ones out there, and sometimes, some of the most ignored by society. I have a couple of horror stories from my friends about public...displays as well as public acts. As far as pros and cons, they differ from person to person. Depending on your personality, you may love the ludicrously crowded streets of Tokyo, or you may hate them (like me). You may find the amount of drunken people around irritating, or you may not notice them because you're just as drunk (also like me). The perverts are usually a pretty regular answer though __________________ Go Trojans! Fight On! Last edited by MeAndroo; Aug 24, 2004 at 14:32.

Aug 24, 2004, 12:58	#7
jieshi Japaustralian Join Date: May 5, 2004 Location: Australia Age: 21 Posts: 470	hmmmm I don't think I have any cons about Japan! I love it all though you could maybe say a con is sexual inequality and racism but they dont bother me that much either (obviously cause Im a guy, though i can get very fired up about how some men treat women as a piece of meat) __________________ When it comes down to it the art and sport of Kendo is a question, "I'm going to hit you in the head with a stick, but can you hit me first?" - Me

Aug 24, 2004, 14:36	#12
MeAndroo Regular Member Join Date: Jul 29, 2004 Location: Asago-shi, Hyogo-ken Age: 27 Posts: 776	Originally Posted by Eve -.- are there a lot of school girls running around tokyo? =P Of course. There's school girls running around any major metropolis. They're just easier to see in Japan because of the required sailor uniforms.

Aug 24, 2004, 12:14	#3
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	What about the perverts? I heard theres a lot of perverts and stalkers in Japan?? Im a guy btw so dont really care =P

Aug 24, 2004, 12:22	#4
Emoni The sinister Dr. Quake! Join Date: Sep 20, 2003 Location: Tokyo Age: 29 Posts: 1,359	From everyone I have talked to, it would do you a great deal of good to try to give up any preconceptions you might have before you go. Something anyone would have a very hard time doing completely. Try to take everything in as a clean slate as it should be, and try to be open to everything and learn. I intend to do the same if I go next year as well. As for the perverts... I consider all men perverts in someway, and Japan has men so they have perverts too. :P

Aug 24, 2004, 12:29	#5
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	lol i just wanna be cautious. Don't awnna get scammed or whatever when im gonna be there

Aug 24, 2004, 13:56	#8
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	theres racism in japan? whoa, who do they hate?

Aug 24, 2004, 14:05	#9
Emoni The sinister Dr. Quake! Join Date: Sep 20, 2003 Location: Tokyo Age: 29 Posts: 1,359	You... Kidding ;) There is pretty much racism everywhere in every country. You will find people who are racist, those who are not. Just be polite, and be yourself. People either will like you or dislike you. Nothing you can do about that.

Aug 24, 2004, 14:07	#10
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	-.- are there a lot of school girls running around tokyo? =P

Aug 24, 2004, 14:34	#11
Emoni The sinister Dr. Quake! Join Date: Sep 20, 2003 Location: Tokyo Age: 29 Posts: 1,359	Why yes, and they are all RACIST PERVERTS too! (Couldn't resist combining all those) On a serious note, don't worry too much about what you can't prevent. Just plan ahead, and bring what you know you'll need and read about the area you will be going too. I'm sure others might have some more preperation advice too on the forum.

Aug 24, 2004, 15:11	#13
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	yes, i think those sailor uniforms are kinky =P

Aug 24, 2004, 16:50	#14
Ewok85 Cute and Furry Join Date: Nov 14, 2003 Location: Saitama/Tokyo Age: 24 Posts: 2,343	Con: foreigners.

Aug 24, 2004, 16:55	#15
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	whats so bad about that

Aug 24, 2004, 17:43	#16
MeAndroo Regular Member Join Date: Jul 29, 2004 Location: Asago-shi, Hyogo-ken Age: 27 Posts: 776	Originally Posted by Ewok85 Con: foreigners. whats so bad about that Oddly enough, as a foreigner, I hated other foreigners so much when I lived in Japan. It just irritated me to see them all over the place....it felt more like a Japantown than Japan at times. I really can't explain it, except that maybe I saw them behave so stupidly that I felt it reflected bad on me as a fellow foreigner? Anyways, spend enough time there, and you might end up disliking foreigners as well...especially those Nigerian doods in Roppongi who won't leave you alone.

Aug 24, 2004, 18:08	#17
Mike Cash Delusions of Adequacy Join Date: Mar 15, 2002 Location: Japan Posts: 5,417	Originally Posted by Eve theres racism in japan? whoa, who do they hate? Racism doesn't always manifest itself in the form of hatred. Discrimination is more common than hatred. The really aggravating thing is when Japanese discriminate against you while saying "Oh, this isn't discrimination. I like foreigners." Originally Posted by Eve whats so bad about that Danged if I know. I'm never around any. __________________ Kiva: Loans That Change Lives

Aug 24, 2004, 18:28	#18
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	Originally Posted by Eve theres racism in japan? whoa, who do they hate? I suggest you read my article about discrimination in Japan (including racism) __________________ Over 100 destinations in the Japan Sightseeing Guide + detailed Tokyo Guide and Kyoto Guide Eupedia : Your Guide to Europe in English Read the "Maciamo FAQ" "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone?", Winston Churchill.

Aug 25, 2004, 01:13	#19
Hero Regular Member Join Date: Aug 19, 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 78	I'm a guy and I was stalked by groups of school girls, a drunk guy walkin down the street, and maybe a few others who did better job at stalking, rofl. The school girls stalking me was cute.... but the drunk dude scared me >.< Yeah those sailor uniforms are kinky, lol.

Aug 25, 2004, 01:55	#20
shotime77780 Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2, 2004 Location: Philly, USA Age: 20 Posts: 63	Originally Posted by Eve yes, i think those sailor uniforms are kinky =P right on brother!!! but dont under estimate them, they are armed with cutter knives and kitchen knives!!!

Aug 25, 2004, 02:14	#21
giant_robot Does Not Compute Join Date: Aug 24, 2004 Age: 21 Posts: 7	Hmm, best and worst things? That sounds like a matter of opinion. My advice would be to start reading some of the stuff on this site, particularly in the Culture and Society categories. I found it to be very informative. Also, I've never been to Japan, but from what I hear they are very strict about politeness and customs, so failing to observe this could make for very bad first impressions with people, and make your stay much less enjoyable. I would suggest reading this article. That's all I got. Watch out for the pervs.

Aug 25, 2004, 05:31	#22
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	ok thxs for ur help guys!

Aug 25, 2004, 06:26	#23
Apollo Cat lover Join Date: Mar 28, 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 30 Posts: 1,593	The Best thing about Japan: People, food, well....I could go on! The Worst thing about Japan: ??? Maybe, expensive fruits, and expensive public transport. About perverts in Japan: well, I hate those pervert guys who nearly rub their body on you in trains, subways etc...pretending it to be "accident" due to crowded subways....I just give them an angry stare, or push back and go somewhere else....they are soooo creepy! __________________

Aug 25, 2004, 07:12	#24
-Yu- Regular Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2004 Posts: 129	Sounds like you experienced that many times, but does it really happen often? I mean, I haven neither seen the actual occasion nor heard my female friends say that kind of thing.(seeing it is almost impossible to happen though, cause they pretend it is caused by jiggle, right?) I heard my mum say that some creepy guy sat down really close to her in desserted train so she felt something was wrong and decided to leave there, but during going to other compartment, she got some sense of being stalked. When she turned back, the guy was staring at her in front of her, she just ran away screaming and eventually got off at station which wasn't her destination. I think that must've been at least 25 years ago. I got surprised when I heard this story cause I can't really imagine there were stalkers at the time. I'm sick of hearing this story from her over and over again, she thinks it is kind of evidence that she was pretty when she was young.

Aug 25, 2004, 07:22	#25
blessed Regular Member Join Date: Jul 24, 2004 Location: London Age: 23 Posts: 193	con: that even if i live there, i still wont attain immortality. Pros: everything else. __________________ Who was Hitler?... a petty dictator living in the times of Stalin. Everyone is intelligent...some before; some afterwards. ... my mood while I've been on this forum... in reverse order!!! hehe

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