School kids becoming more violent

[Ewok85]

School kids becoming more violent

Public elementary school children committed a record 1,777 violent acts in the 2003 academic year, the education ministry said Friday.

The Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Ministry said the number was up 27.6 percent from the previous school year and included acts of violence committed both on and off school grounds.

http://www.japantimes.com/cgi-bin/ge...20040828f2.htm

Errgh... battle royale started like this

[TyPe-ZeRo]

also volcano high... except without the magical powers, or without the needless matrix "bullet-time" thing

[sabian]

But, this problem is universal, no?

[b0rdpladen]

Very universal indeed I think.. Here in Denmark it is anyways..

[blessed]

now here is an incentive and reason to learn... Kung Fu... haha .

[openup]

Isn't it the lack of parent education they have at home?
Parents of bad boys/girls should be jailed just like in Britain...

[TwistedMac]

My theory is our lives are too good these days..

we have time to go around and think about hurting people and stuff.

not alot of people had that when everyone had to work the farm =P

[Kamisama]

yeah.. times on the farm. Slaughtering cows in the shed, skinning, butchering them. Mom always coming into the bathroom to assume me of shaking the right hand of satan

[Toshi]

geez you guys are so suprised go to the ghettos of L.A. or all of the U.S. they do worse but thats my opinion

[Uchite]

Whatever happened to using the shinai to beat some respect and obedience into these little so & so's, and to do stop them from ever doing such things again?
Whatever happened to a good old stinging slap in the face as used so often by the Japanese Military during the World War II days?
I don't mean to be extreme here, but these kids who are causing all this trouble in Japan have no respect for anyone or anything. They need immediate punishment and correction if they are indeed guilty.

America could follow this advice too!

[yamada]

When I was in elementary school, a teacher had a shinai to obey all of us in our classroom. When I was in junior high school, a teacher always slaps one student in the face to whom the teacher said why you stared at me. When I was in high school, a teacher who took charge of my class stopped slapping in the faces of us, as he was told not to by the principal because of pressures from PTA. It was all around from early in the '70s to the middle in the '80s. But now, a friend of mine complained that all of them knew that any teacher could use no violence to them at all. Most of the problems which happened so often by teachers in old days have already cured, but some parents have gotten worse.

[Reiku]

Hmm, I can't say how it is in Japan, but in the US juvinile crime has actually been in decline for years--despite what you hear on the news.

I was shocked when I found this out, because everyone seems to "know" that it's getting worse--they even pass new laws referring to the rise in violence--but then I saw the FBI's official chart of violence among people under 18 in the US, and it's showed a steady decline over the last 20 years or so...

...I'll see if I can find that article and those charts, but is it possible the same thing is happening in Japan?

[pipokun]

Actually, it's the same here.
It seems there are tons of juvenile crimes here, but...

[Dutch Baka]

Parents are to nice for their children, when a teacher say something bad to a child, even if it sometimes is no you can't do this bla bla bla, a parent start complaining.

But it is sad, and children need to learn more respect in some countries.

[ArmandV]

I would surmise that the problem with juveniles are one or more of the following:

1. Poor parenting.
2. Poor school discipline.
3. No activity outlets for kids.
4. Peer pressure.
5. Rotten kids.

[epigene]

Originally Posted by ArmandV

I would surmise that the problem with juveniles are one or more of the following:
1. Poor parenting.
2. Poor school discipline.
3. No activity outlets for kids.
4. Peer pressure.
5. Rotten kids.

Absolutely right!!
Changes here in Japan reminds me of how things changed in US schools from the 1950s until today.

[ArmandV]

Originally Posted by epigene

Absolutely right!!
Changes here in Japan reminds me of how things changed in US schools from the 1950s until today.

Quite! Only it just took the Japanese a lot longer to get to that point.

[Color red]

Originally Posted by sabian

But, this problem is universal, no?

In japan, kids are aggresive against their own people. If you are gaijin, kids usually don't waste time.

[kooo]

I think the problem probably isn't discipline. It's easy to brush it off as that, but there's probably something deeper than that. Maybe more Japanese children are becoming discontent with their lives or maybe the world in general is becoming more and more desensitized towards violence.

[Mike Cash]

You write very eloquently for a nine year old. Home-schooled?

[ArmandV]

Originally Posted by kooo

I think the problem probably isn't discipline. It's easy to brush it off as that, but there's probably something deeper than that. Maybe more Japanese children are becoming discontent with their lives or maybe the world in general is becoming more and more desensitized towards violence.

What does the word discipline mean to you? There is much more to it than paddle-wacking some unruly kid's fanny.

[kooo]

Originally Posted by ArmandV

What does the word discipline mean to you? There is much more to it than paddle-wacking some unruly kid's fanny.

Well, perhaps you could explain your views on discipline to me. I'll admit it's a subject I am ignorant about, unfortunatley.

[taehyun]

Each culture has different concept of discipline.
For a Japanese, for a Korean and for a Chinese discipline has different meaning.
Based on my observations, when there is a rule that forbids something,my Japanese colleague says:" I want to break it, but the authority A or B has put it, so ...", because Japanese respect authorities.
My Chinese colleague says "It is OK to violate the rule, if noone's around"
But my Korean colleagues, esp men with 2 years in the army, even don't discuss it.Women, however, often react like the Japanese.
Obviously, Americans also have different concept for discipline. Some Koreans living in the US, told me that they have had problems with that, like not discussing an order, respect towards the older person or the boss in a company...
I think it is best to leave Japanese teachers to decide what is discipline for the Japanese children within the Japanese society.

[bexchurnside]

Originally Posted by Uchite

Whatever happened to using the shinai to beat some respect and obedience into these little so & so's, and to do stop them from ever doing such things again?
Whatever happened to a good old stinging slap in the face as used so often by the Japanese Military during the World War II days?
I don't mean to be extreme here, but these kids who are causing all this trouble in Japan have no respect for anyone or anything. They need immediate punishment and correction if they are indeed guilty.
America could follow this advice too!

Wow, I thought all Japanese had courtesy, respect, and honour. As an English lady, I must say that Japanese are definately refined enough if not more than we are, and the English see you Japanese in a very positive light as being civilized people of high culture.

Originally Posted by taehyun

Each culture has different concept of discipline.
For a Japanese, for a Korean and for a Chinese discipline has different meaning.
Based on my observations, when there is a rule that forbids something,my Japanese colleague says:" I want to break it, but the authority A or B has put it, so ...", because Japanese respect authorities.
My Chinese colleague says "It is OK to violate the rule, if noone's around"
But my Korean colleagues, esp men with 2 years in the army, even don't discuss it.Women, however, often react like the Japanese.
Obviously, Americans also have different concept for discipline. Some Koreans living in the US, told me that they have had problems with that, like not discussing an order, respect towards the older person or the boss in a company...
I think it is best to leave Japanese teachers to decide what is discipline for the Japanese children within the Japanese society.

Maybe throwing them into the Jietai would straighten them up. These chaps could use some military discipline. Fortunately, they would not have to shoot anyone, and they would only be doing good community service. How are the laws there in Japan? Are they tougher than England and Canada, or are they more lenient?

[Goldiegirl]

Part of the problem in the US is we have to make everyone feel good and not hurt their self esteem. The teachers where my nieces and nephews go to school can't even correct the assignments with a red pen as that as seen as to negative and harsh. Also the school system keeps the unruly and disruptive children in the regular classrooms with the children who behave because they said they don't want to intrude on the civil liberties of the misbehaving children and get charged with discrimination.