Japan may ask US to strike

thomas · Jan 25, 2003, 03:49

I wonder *how* they can verify if NK is injecting fuel into their missiles. Spooky.

Japan may ask US to strike

Japan said it could ask US forces to launch a pre-emptive strike on North Korean missile bases if Pyongyang was preparing to fire missiles at its territory.

The Director-General of the Defence Agency, Shigeru Ishiba, a cabinet minister, said that it would take "seven to eight minutes or 10 minutes at the most" for North Korean missiles to reach Japan.

"If (North Korea) starts injecting fuel (into missiles) as part of preparations after expressing its intention of throwing Japan into a sea of fire or reducing it to ashes, then it means the start of an attack," he told parliament's lower house budget committee.

The defence chief added that, under their security pact, Japan could entrust the United States with an attack on "enemy territory" while engaging itself in self-defence as a "shield".

=> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...911552277.html

Maciamo · Jan 29, 2003, 07:01

Are they talking about nukes or "just" missiles ?

I don't like all this. Why should NK settle its problem with the US by attacking Japan ? It's an easy solution (nearer, less defences) that won't arrange anything and could lead to the total destruction of both Koreas and Japan.

thomas · Jan 30, 2003, 02:03

Probably they were referring to missiles with nuclear warheads. If you think of it, any NK attack on South Korea or Japan would be the end of their regime, and that's exactly what they want to avoid at all costs.

A strong army can be helpful in making your point clear to other international players. At least you get heard.

dogcountry · Feb 1, 2003, 07:58

Well, I have a suggestion that could be feasible. I've been thinking on these lines for years. Couldn't the US allow any healthy male Japanese national to join/merge with US forces? They would do their basic and other training at US installations. I don't mean a trickle of personel, I mean in a very large number. In appreciation for these numbers the US could give them complete citizenship, most benifits. Anything wrong with that idea?

lineartube · Feb 1, 2003, 08:35

The only advantage of a caveman having a big club, is letting the others see it. He may not be able to swing it, but it does makes a good deterrent weapon.

History does tend to repit itself. Every developing country with a paranoia (justified or not) is thinking that the way of surviving is adopting the XXth century 60-80's cold war. If in the end, one of the Super-powers couldn't continue the arms race and buckled, why do Israel, India, Pakistan and now North Korea are trying to make it work?
Pakistan was the first muslim country to get the bomb. I wonder how much time it will take for a Middle East muslim country to get one and balance again the scales?

XXI century and yet another arms race...

lineartube · Feb 1, 2003, 08:42

It's confirmed! Saddam does has weapons of mass destruction. And they are of alien origin, too.

http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/31/42821.html

thomas · Feb 2, 2003, 03:51

Then resistance is futile, lolol....

I guess Colonel Petrokov had too much vodka.

Maciamo · Feb 2, 2003, 14:26

Originally posted by dogcountry
Couldn't the US allow any healthy male Japanese national to join/merge with US forces? They would do their basic and other training at US installations. I don't mean a trickle of personel, I mean in a very large number. In appreciation for these numbers the US could give them complete citizenship, most benifits. Anything wrong with that idea?

Why would Japanese want to become American ? (especially that they'd lose their Japanese nationality, as Japan doesn't accept dual nationality).

Japan already has its Self-Defence Forces which already is like a regular army (at least their navy and air force). They could attack NK if they wanted, but not occupy it without US support.

meverie · Feb 3, 2003, 04:43

I wonder how long must we continue to play 'a Koshi-ginchaku' of US..?
I'm daily disappointed with silly bureaucracy of Japan...
I'm getting to feel like retiring from being a Japanese.. ;-(
though I'm loving its unique culture..
does anybody want mine..? :-P

meverie · Feb 3, 2003, 05:02

'must' and 'we' should have been exchanged..poor skill..
I might be silly rather than them..*sigh*

Maciamo · Feb 3, 2003, 11:24

Meverie, you can edit you messages by clicking on the "edit" button if you want.

Jan 25, 2003, 03:49	#1
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Japan may ask US to strike I wonder how they can verify if NK is injecting fuel into their missiles. Spooky. Japan may ask US to strike Japan said it could ask US forces to launch a pre-emptive strike on North Korean missile bases if Pyongyang was preparing to fire missiles at its territory. The Director-General of the Defence Agency, Shigeru Ishiba, a cabinet minister, said that it would take "seven to eight minutes or 10 minutes at the most" for North Korean missiles to reach Japan. "If (North Korea) starts injecting fuel (into missiles) as part of preparations after expressing its intention of throwing Japan into a sea of fire or reducing it to ashes, then it means the start of an attack," he told parliament's lower house budget committee. The defence chief added that, under their security pact, Japan could entrust the United States with an attack on "enemy territory" while engaging itself in self-defence as a "shield". => http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...911552277.html __________________ Remember what the dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head!

Jan 29, 2003, 07:01	#2
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	Are they talking about nukes or "just" missiles ? I don't like all this. Why should NK settle its problem with the US by attacking Japan ? It's an easy solution (nearer, less defences) that won't arrange anything and could lead to the total destruction of both Koreas and Japan. __________________ Over 100 destinations in the Japan Sightseeing Guide + detailed Tokyo Guide and Kyoto Guide Eupedia : Your Guide to Europe in English Read the "Maciamo FAQ" "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone?", Winston Churchill.

Feb 1, 2003, 08:35	#5
lineartube free spirit Join Date: Oct 29, 2002 Location: Vila Franca de Xira/Portugal Age: 33 Posts: 389	The only advantage of a caveman having a big club, is letting the others see it. He may not be able to swing it, but it does makes a good deterrent weapon. History does tend to repit itself. Every developing country with a paranoia (justified or not) is thinking that the way of surviving is adopting the XXth century 60-80's cold war. If in the end, one of the Super-powers couldn't continue the arms race and buckled, why do Israel, India, Pakistan and now North Korea are trying to make it work? Pakistan was the first muslim country to get the bomb. I wonder how much time it will take for a Middle East muslim country to get one and balance again the scales? XXI century and yet another arms race... __________________ Ln.

Feb 2, 2003, 14:26	#8
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	Originally posted by dogcountry Couldn't the US allow any healthy male Japanese national to join/merge with US forces? They would do their basic and other training at US installations. I don't mean a trickle of personel, I mean in a very large number. In appreciation for these numbers the US could give them complete citizenship, most benifits. Anything wrong with that idea? Why would Japanese want to become American ? (especially that they'd lose their Japanese nationality, as Japan doesn't accept dual nationality). Japan already has its Self-Defence Forces which already is like a regular army (at least their navy and air force). They could attack NK if they wanted, but not occupy it without US support.

Feb 3, 2003, 04:43	#9
meverie Regular Member Join Date: Dec 10, 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 36	I wonder how long must we continue to play 'a Koshi-ginchaku' of US..? I'm daily disappointed with silly bureaucracy of Japan... I'm getting to feel like retiring from being a Japanese.. ;-( though I'm loving its unique culture.. does anybody want mine..? :-P __________________ (^-^)/~~ ☆彡

Jan 30, 2003, 02:03	#3
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Probably they were referring to missiles with nuclear warheads. If you think of it, any NK attack on South Korea or Japan would be the end of their regime, and that's exactly what they want to avoid at all costs. A strong army can be helpful in making your point clear to other international players. At least you get heard.

Feb 1, 2003, 07:58	#4
dogcountry Dogcountry Join Date: Dec 14, 2002 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 48	Well, I have a suggestion that could be feasible. I've been thinking on these lines for years. Couldn't the US allow any healthy male Japanese national to join/merge with US forces? They would do their basic and other training at US installations. I don't mean a trickle of personel, I mean in a very large number. In appreciation for these numbers the US could give them complete citizenship, most benifits. Anything wrong with that idea?

Feb 1, 2003, 08:42	#6
lineartube free spirit Join Date: Oct 29, 2002 Location: Vila Franca de Xira/Portugal Age: 33 Posts: 389	It's confirmed! Saddam does has weapons of mass destruction. And they are of alien origin, too. http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/31/42821.html

Feb 2, 2003, 03:51	#7
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Then resistance is futile, lolol.... I guess Colonel Petrokov had too much vodka.

Feb 3, 2003, 05:02	#10
meverie Regular Member Join Date: Dec 10, 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 36	'must' and 'we' should have been exchanged..poor skill.. I might be silly rather than them..sigh

Feb 3, 2003, 11:24	#11
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	Meverie, you can edit you messages by clicking on the "edit" button if you want.

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