本物の読み取り? alexは書きます。自動翻訳。

alexriversan · Mar 29, 2005, 02:20

2年前に:別の国。alexは今日これを書きます。表現用の言語があります。

パンプキン光および降る雪
光は家ウィンドウから光ります
茶が出されます ->

good yes/no

ガールフレンド/あなたと映画劇場を訪れる、そして私。ゲームソフト。月、10、一年の第31の=終わり。nike製品は� 謔閧謔｢生活を意味します。

good yes/no ->

その記述が好きな場合は、短文の中で返答してください。
あるいは、englishの中の個人のメッセージを送ってください。
語順は私の知識には異なります。
句を備えた本が所有されます。
今夜遅く研究用に。

Tamie · Mar 30, 2005, 23:39

Hi,alex.
The Japanese sentence translated by Automatic translation is obscure....
It's a pity I can understand of you poem.

alexriversan · Mar 31, 2005, 02:32

WHICH sentence is obscure in WHAT way

to arrange and simplify the english before translation was tried

to know WHAT is wrong: and to improve makes sense.

**NANGI** · Mar 31, 2005, 07:58

Konnichiwa alexriversan!

パンプキン光および降る雪
光は家ウィンドウから光ります
茶が出されます
good yes/no

ガールフレンド/あなたと映画劇場を訪れる、そして私。ゲームソフト。月、10、一年の第31の=終わり。nike製品は� 謔閧謔｢生活を意味します。
good yes/no

Please in english.

NANGI

**epigene** · Mar 31, 2005, 09:06

Tamie-san and Nangi-san are both native Japanese speakers. If they don't understand, don't expect any Japanese to understand your post. (I'm a native speaker, too.)

Machine/software translation produces poorest quality in poetic/literary writing. FYI, please read "Why can't we have MT now?" in this page:
http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue2/mt/

alexriversan · Mar 31, 2005, 22:20

IN ENGLISH:
Visit a movie theater with a girl friend/you, and he is me.
Game software.
The moon, 10, 31st = end for one year.
A nike product means a better life

IN PLAIN ENGLISH:
I DO NOT ENJOY ADULT ENTERTAINEMNT AT HOME.
I LIKE GIRLS AND YOU (EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT A GIRL)*
I AM A PASSIONATE CONSOLE PLAYER.
HALLOWEEN PEOPLE BELIEF THE YEAR ENDS IN OCTOBER.
BUYING A NIKE PRODUCT=INSTANT BETTER LIFE

*meant as it is straightforward.

within a profile:
the purpose is to keep people away, which are not compatible to me.
stating cinema excludes home video POLITELY.

alexriversan · Mar 31, 2005, 22:31

indeed one gets an obscure translation.
it is not known.
and makes a sentence.
a story is not read.
and not written.

**NANGI** · Apr 1, 2005, 10:01

Konnichiwa alexriversan!

Visit a movie theater with a girl friend/you, and he is me.
Game software.
The moon, 10, 31st = end for one year.
A nike product means a better life

彼女と映画館に訪れる彼、そう、彼はあなた。
ゲームソフト。
月は十月と三十一日、それは一年の終わり。
より良い生活を保障するNike製品。

IN PLAIN ENGLISH:
I DO NOT ENJOY ADULT ENTERTAINEMNT AT HOME.
I LIKE GIRLS AND YOU (EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT A GIRL)*
I AM A PASSIONATE CONSOLE PLAYER.
HALLOWEEN PEOPLE BELIEF THE YEAR ENDS IN OCTOBER.
BUYING A NIKE PRODUCT=INSTANT BETTER LIFE

私は家で大人向けの娯楽を楽しまない。
私は彼女とあなたが好きだ(あなたが女性でない限り)
私は熱烈なゲーマー
ハロウィーンの人々は、一年は10月に終わると信じて疑わない
Nikeの製品を買えば、すぐに人生が好転する

I have a question.
"CONSOLE PLAYER" means "Computer game player"?

NANGI

alexriversan · Apr 1, 2005, 17:16

ガールフレンド/あなたと映画劇場を訪れる、そして私。

the japanese do not know the "/" (slash)?
it means girlfriend/you.
your translation does not express what i mean.

Visit a movie theater with a girl friend/you, and he is me.
not grammatical correct even in english: means sharing time, not necessarily instant intercourse.
-----

Nikeの製品を買えば、すぐに人生が好転する
good sentence, i will take it over.

月は十月と三十一日、それは一年の終わり。
seems to be correct, i will take it over.

-----

私は熱烈なゲーマー
this can be misunderstood as "gambling"

-----

THE SHOUTED TEXT WAS NOT MENTIONED FOR TRANSLATION.
i do not wish to express such UN-DESIRES directly.
as it loops up such people into angryness, or general emission of emotion.

-----

console games = sega/ninty (nintendo), playstation. attached to tv set.
nintendo gameboy TM = handheld game console. own lc display screen.

Tamie · Apr 1, 2005, 21:55

Hi,alexriversan.
I made a mistake

It's a pity I can understand of you poem.
⇒It's a pity I can't understand of you poem.

I wanted to grasp an understanding for your poem.
But I couldn't do that. I tought the problem in that is translation machine was bad.
And so,I tried to tell you Japanese can't understand your poem in Japanese.
However I am poor at English,and I couldn't tell you about that nicely.

NANGIさん、訳してくれてありがとう。

True, it is difficult to grasp an understandig of English poem for me but I want to become to understand of your poem.
I think I have to study English more.

がんばります。

**NANGI** · Apr 2, 2005, 10:25

Konnichiwa alexriversan!　Tamie-san!

the japanese do not know the "/" (slash)?
it means girlfriend/you.

Oh, "girlfriend" means "you"? Sorry.

Visit a movie theater with a girl friend/you, and he is me.

彼女(あなた)と映画館に訪れる彼、そう、彼は私。

私は熱烈なゲーマー
this can be misunderstood as "gambling"

I think "熱烈なゲーマー" is better than "ゲームオタク".

to Tamie-san
Translating poem is so hard, especially the lyrics.

NANGI

alexriversan · Apr 2, 2005, 18:09

nangi: / means "OR"

i try to express i like girls, to have a girlfriend in general,

but that i am not obsessed with girls or girls would be my only interest.

probably there is an easy way in japanese.

but probably, they expect me to be like a typical american.

and i am not that way.

----------------------

game "nerd" is such a UNWORD. how can i unsubscribe from english?

probably "passionate NINTY gamer" will get the point, but i have a SEGA. many (european/american) people do not even know SEGA.

if i write gameboy, well i like japanese words, but how will it be understood?
and i do not have a nintendo gameboy handheld console.

熱烈なNINTYゲーマー ?

alexriversan · Apr 3, 2005, 19:45

NINTY 及びSEGA を蘭読される

映画館は望まれ、訪問される

i hope that's not too obscure

**cacawate** · Apr 8, 2005, 08:48

Just a little アレックス! I like the game really! I me was young, because I owned Sega Genesis/Megadrive, doing the video game. Is the master system game of your taste what? Any my things are Wonderboy of the land of the monster. There was a master system in my cousin, therefore I the large quantity went in that house!

Mar 29, 2005, 02:20	#1
alexriversan Regular Member Join Date: Mar 6, 2005 Location: ireland Age: 34 Posts: 288	本物の読み取り? alexは書きます。自動翻訳。 2年前に:別の国。alexは今日これを書きます。表現用の言語があります。パンプキン光および降る雪光は家ウィンドウから光ります茶が出されます -> good yes/no ガールフレンド/あなたと映画劇場を訪れる、そして私。ゲームソフト。月、10、一年の第31の=終わり。nike製品は� 謔閧謔｢生活を意味します。 good yes/no -> その記述が好きな場合は、短文の中で返答してください。あるいは、englishの中の個人のメッセージを送ってください。語順は私の知識には異なります。句を備えた本が所有されます。今夜遅く研究用に。

Mar 31, 2005, 07:58	#4
NANGI Tutor Join Date: Jan 8, 2003 Location: I live in Kansai. Posts: 2,276	Konnichiwa alexriversan! パンプキン光および降る雪光は家ウィンドウから光ります茶が出されます good yes/no ガールフレンド/あなたと映画劇場を訪れる、そして私。ゲームソフト。月、10、一年の第31の=終わり。nike製品は� 謔閧謔｢生活を意味します。 good yes/no Please in english. NANGI

Mar 31, 2005, 09:06	#5
epigene 不束者です Join Date: Nov 10, 2004 Location: 都下 Posts: 3,500 Blog Entries: 22	Tamie-san and Nangi-san are both native Japanese speakers. If they don't understand, don't expect any Japanese to understand your post. (I'm a native speaker, too.) Machine/software translation produces poorest quality in poetic/literary writing. FYI, please read "Why can't we have MT now?" in this page: http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue2/mt/ __________________ ✄ฺ--------- ｷ ---- ﾘ ---- ﾄ ---- ﾚ ---- ﾏ ---- ｾ ---- ﾝ --------

Apr 1, 2005, 10:01	#8
NANGI Tutor Join Date: Jan 8, 2003 Location: I live in Kansai. Posts: 2,276	Konnichiwa alexriversan! Visit a movie theater with a girl friend/you, and he is me. Game software. The moon, 10, 31st = end for one year. A nike product means a better life 彼女と映画館に訪れる彼、そう、彼はあなた。ゲームソフト。月は十月と三十一日、それは一年の終わり。より良い生活を保障するNike製品。 IN PLAIN ENGLISH: I DO NOT ENJOY ADULT ENTERTAINEMNT AT HOME. I LIKE GIRLS AND YOU (EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT A GIRL)* I AM A PASSIONATE CONSOLE PLAYER. HALLOWEEN PEOPLE BELIEF THE YEAR ENDS IN OCTOBER. BUYING A NIKE PRODUCT=INSTANT BETTER LIFE 私は家で大人向けの娯楽を楽しまない。私は彼女とあなたが好きだ(あなたが女性でない限り) 私は熱烈なゲーマーハロウィーンの人々は、一年は10月に終わると信じて疑わない Nikeの製品を買えば、すぐに人生が好転する I have a question. "CONSOLE PLAYER" means "Computer game player"? NANGI

Apr 2, 2005, 10:25	#11
NANGI Tutor Join Date: Jan 8, 2003 Location: I live in Kansai. Posts: 2,276	Konnichiwa alexriversan!　Tamie-san! the japanese do not know the "/" (slash)? it means girlfriend/you. Oh, "girlfriend" means "you"? Sorry. Visit a movie theater with a girl friend/you, and he is me. 彼女(あなた)と映画館に訪れる彼、そう、彼は私。私は熱烈なゲーマー this can be misunderstood as "gambling" I think "熱烈なゲーマー" is better than "ゲームオタク". to Tamie-san Translating poem is so hard, especially the lyrics. NANGI

Mar 30, 2005, 23:39	#2
Tamie Regular Member Join Date: Mar 18, 2005 Location: Osaka Posts: 20	Hi,alex. The Japanese sentence translated by Automatic translation is obscure.... It's a pity I can understand of you poem.

Mar 31, 2005, 02:32	#3
alexriversan Regular Member Join Date: Mar 6, 2005 Location: ireland Age: 34 Posts: 288	WHICH sentence is obscure in WHAT way to arrange and simplify the english before translation was tried to know WHAT is wrong: and to improve makes sense.

Mar 31, 2005, 22:20	#6
alexriversan Regular Member Join Date: Mar 6, 2005 Location: ireland Age: 34 Posts: 288	IN ENGLISH: Visit a movie theater with a girl friend/you, and he is me. Game software. The moon, 10, 31st = end for one year. A nike product means a better life IN PLAIN ENGLISH: I DO NOT ENJOY ADULT ENTERTAINEMNT AT HOME. I LIKE GIRLS AND YOU (EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT A GIRL)* I AM A PASSIONATE CONSOLE PLAYER. HALLOWEEN PEOPLE BELIEF THE YEAR ENDS IN OCTOBER. BUYING A NIKE PRODUCT=INSTANT BETTER LIFE *meant as it is straightforward. within a profile: the purpose is to keep people away, which are not compatible to me. stating cinema excludes home video POLITELY.

Mar 31, 2005, 22:31	#7
alexriversan Regular Member Join Date: Mar 6, 2005 Location: ireland Age: 34 Posts: 288	indeed one gets an obscure translation. it is not known. and makes a sentence. a story is not read. and not written.

Apr 1, 2005, 17:16	#9
alexriversan Regular Member Join Date: Mar 6, 2005 Location: ireland Age: 34 Posts: 288	ガールフレンド/あなたと映画劇場を訪れる、そして私。 the japanese do not know the "/" (slash)? it means girlfriend/you. your translation does not express what i mean. Visit a movie theater with a girl friend/you, and he is me. not grammatical correct even in english: means sharing time, not necessarily instant intercourse. ----- Nikeの製品を買えば、すぐに人生が好転する good sentence, i will take it over. 月は十月と三十一日、それは一年の終わり。 seems to be correct, i will take it over. ----- 私は熱烈なゲーマー this can be misunderstood as "gambling" ----- THE SHOUTED TEXT WAS NOT MENTIONED FOR TRANSLATION. i do not wish to express such UN-DESIRES directly. as it loops up such people into angryness, or general emission of emotion. ----- console games = sega/ninty (nintendo), playstation. attached to tv set. nintendo gameboy TM = handheld game console. own lc display screen.

Apr 1, 2005, 21:55	#10
Tamie Regular Member Join Date: Mar 18, 2005 Location: Osaka Posts: 20	Hi,alexriversan. I made a mistake It's a pity I can understand of you poem. ⇒It's a pity I can't understand of you poem. I wanted to grasp an understanding for your poem. But I couldn't do that. I tought the problem in that is translation machine was bad. And so,I tried to tell you Japanese can't understand your poem in Japanese. However I am poor at English,and I couldn't tell you about that nicely. NANGIさん、訳してくれてありがとう。 True, it is difficult to grasp an understandig of English poem for me but I want to become to understand of your poem. I think I have to study English more. がんばります。

Apr 2, 2005, 18:09	#12
alexriversan Regular Member Join Date: Mar 6, 2005 Location: ireland Age: 34 Posts: 288	nangi: / means "OR" i try to express i like girls, to have a girlfriend in general, but that i am not obsessed with girls or girls would be my only interest. probably there is an easy way in japanese. but probably, they expect me to be like a typical american. and i am not that way. ---------------------- game "nerd" is such a UNWORD. how can i unsubscribe from english? probably "passionate NINTY gamer" will get the point, but i have a SEGA. many (european/american) people do not even know SEGA. if i write gameboy, well i like japanese words, but how will it be understood? and i do not have a nintendo gameboy handheld console. 熱烈なNINTYゲーマー ?

Apr 3, 2005, 19:45	#13
alexriversan Regular Member Join Date: Mar 6, 2005 Location: ireland Age: 34 Posts: 288	NINTY 及びSEGA を蘭読される映画館は望まれ、訪問される i hope that's not too obscure

Apr 8, 2005, 08:48	#14
cacawate 観察するのが好きです Join Date: Jul 22, 2003 Location: マングリ島 Age: 28 Posts: 533	Just a little アレックス! I like the game really! I me was young, because I owned Sega Genesis/Megadrive, doing the video game. Is the master system game of your taste what? Any my things are Wonderboy of the land of the monster. There was a master system in my cousin, therefore I the large quantity went in that house! __________________ Cacawate Fan Club:Idol My Lang-8 ・ What is Lang-8?

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