Japan acted worse than Germany during WWII

[victorinuscheung]

Japanese government do not apologise what they did in the World War 2.She is worse than Germany and Italy.Now she even claim that the island near to Korea is her.Fishing island is occupied by her.She is crazy.Japanese government's behaviour and the acting just like Hitler(Nazi Party) and Mussolini(Fascist Party).

[Maciamo]

There is little doubt that Japan was worse than Germany or Italy during WWII. Westerners usually don't know much about it because what happened in Asia since the early 1930's is less taught at school than the events of WWII in Europe.

The Japanese treated their prisonners much worse than the Nazi (27% of pow's in Japanese hands died, compared with 4 per cent of those in German captivity; see article).

The total number of casualities caused by Japan were higher than those of the Nazi. The number of prisoners or slave labour that died in Japanese mines, factories, etc. is also comparable to the Nazi concentration camps. Having a look at the statistics, there were 10 million civilian, and 2.5 million military casualities in China alone. In comparison, Japan lost 1,300,000 soldiers and 672,000 civilians (about 1/3 of whom died in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings).

The Nazi exterminated from 5 to 6 million Jews during WWII. This is half of the number of Chinese people killed by the Japanese during WWII. The Wikipedia statistics do not show the number for other Asian countries, although they were much higher than in most invaded European countries. But only the Chinese casualities show the extreme violence and barbarism of that the Japanese were capable of.

Add to this an estimated 100,000 to 400,000 comfort women, women from all East Asian countries as well as a few European ones, who were forced into sexual slavery by the Japanese. I also haven't heard of anything so disproportionate committed by the Nazi.

I haven't heard of the Nazi committing such atrocities as the mass rape and murder of civilians like in Nanking in 1937 (death toll estimated between 100,000 and 300,000), in Manilla in 1945 (over 100,000 civilian deaths), or the various other Japanese War Atrocities.

The infamous Japanese Unit 731, a biological warfare lab conducting experiments on human beings, was also responsible for up to 200,000 deaths.

All this seems much worse than the total of deeds committed by the Nazi. Westerners have not cared much about it as they were not directly concerned. But I totally understand that China and other Asian countries are still angry and still want more than hypocritical apologies, but real war damages. I think the Chinese are baheving in a very meek way when they hear that Japan's Prime Ministers still honour the Japanese military leaders responsible for the death of 12.5 million Chinese. If the German chancellor visited a shrine dedicated to Hitler even once, he would be forced to resign immediately, probably tried and sent to jail, and could even be assassinated by some Jewish extremists. When I see them throwing eggs at the Japanese embassy, I think that the Chinese are very forgiveful, little determined or very ignorant of the extent of what happened in their own country during WWII.

[alexriversan]

personally, i am undergoing a therapy about german's cruelty against jews, and the own people as well.

because i feel unconfortable about it. i do not even know one single jew.

probably you can work out something:

put a number sticker on each country of the world:

xxxxxxxxxxx people killed by: ________________

south america, russia, north america, ireland, china, japan, micronesia (french nuke tests)

do you see a holy goverment of god, which has not commited crime (soldier deaths of soldiers by choice are not a crime, civil deaths are a crime. soldier deaths of soldiers by force are a tragedy.)

[Eisuke]

Here is a complete list of National Death Tolls for the Second World War
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/ww2stats.htm

Here is a excerpt from the statistics:

Who to Blame:
Most history books break their WW2 numbers down according to whether the dead are military or civilian and which country they came from. Since I've done that elsewhere, let's try to break it down by guilt. Here are various estimates by various experts of the number of superfluous, non-military deaths during the Second World War.

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Blame

Hitler Total:
Courtois: 25,000,000
Rummel: 20,946,000 democides
Brzezinski: 17,000,000
Urlanis: 15-16,000,000 (11-12M civilians + 3.9M POWs)
MEDIAN: ca. 15.5M
Our Times: 13,000,000 (6M Jews + 7M others)
Compton's: 12,000,000
Grenville: 10,000,000, including 2M children.
NOTE: These numbers only include outright murders, but keep in mind that some 18M civilians and 17M soldiers died in the European War. That's 35,000,000 deaths which can probably be blamed on Hitler to one extent or another.

Total killed by Stalin during the war years:
Davies: 16-17,000,000 non-war-dead
Rummel: 18,157,000 democides
NOTE: Numbers this high are hard to reconcile with the common estimates of 7 million Soviet civilian deaths during WW2. Even if we go with larger, more recent estimates of 17M civilian deaths, these number proposed by Rummel and Davies would leave no room for murders at German hands and deaths as a simple by-product of war.
My Very Rough Estimate (based largely, but not entirely, on Overy, who seems well-informed and sensible.) In tenths of millions.
Axis POWs: 0.6M
Soviet Soldiers during war: 0.4M
Gulag: 0.6M
Black Sea/Caucasus Minorities: 0.2M
Baltic Minorities: 0.2M
Repatriated Soviets after the war: 1.0M
Germans who died fleeing the advancing Red Army: 1.0M
TOTAL: 4.0M

Japanese Total: (these are the complete statistics)
China and Korea
Nanking Massacre, 13 Dec. 1937-Feb. 38:
Spence, The Search for Modern China: 42,000
Gilbert: >200,000 civilians and 90,000 POWs
Dict.Wars: 200,000
Rummel: 200,000
P. Johnson: 200-300,000
27 Aug 2001 Newsweek, quoting Japanese textbook: "The number of dead is said to be over 100,000 and it is estimated to be over 300,000 in China."
Palmowski, Dictionary of 20th Century World History: "perhaps as many as" 400,000
Iris Chang, The Rape of Nanking (1997) cites these:
Liu Fang-chu: 430,000
James Yin & Shi Young: 400,000
Sun Zhaiwei: 377,400 corpses disposed of
Wu Tien-wei: 340,000
District Court of Nanking: 300,000
International Military Tribunal of the Far East: 260,000
Fujiwara Akira: 200,000
John Rabe: 50-60,000
Hata Ikuhiko: 38-42,000
[Median: 260,000]
Unit 731, Manchukuo (bio-warfare center: 1937-45)
Discovery Channel: "as many as 200,000 people � Chinese soldiers, private citizens and prisoners of war � had died" [http://dsc.discovery.com/anthology/s...history2.html]
Global Security: Up to 3,000 died in this facility. Perhaps as many 200,000 Chinese died from germ war campaign in Yunnan Province, Ningbo, and Changde. [http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/japan/bw.htm]
Bombing: 71,105 Chinese k. by Japanese bombing (Clodfelter)
South East Asia and East Indies
Bataan Death March, 1942
Burma-Siam Railroad, worker deaths (1941-43)
Johnson: 16,000 POWs
Our Times, also Gilbert: 50,000 Burmese civilians and 16,000 Allied POWs
Grenville: 100,000 Asians and 16,000 Europeans
7 February 2002 AP: 50,000 Asian laborers and 16,000 Allied POWs
Manila Massacre, 1944-45
East Timor
James Dunn, in Century of Genocide, Samuel Totten, ed., (1997)): 70,000 died under Japanese occupation
19 May 2002 San Gabriel Valley Tribune: "January 1942: Japan occupies the entire island. With support from the local people, Australian commandos in East Timor battle Japan. Japanese reprisals kill 60,000 civilians 13 percent of East Timor's population."
Dutch East Indies: 25,000 Dutch d. out of 140,000 imprisoned (3 Feb. 1998 Agence France Presse)
Singapore, citizens (mostly Chinese) massacred, 1942
Japan Economic Newswire/Kyodo News Service
16 June 2004: 50,000-100,000
13 Aug. 1984: Report by Allies after WW2 est. 5,000 k. Families claim 40,000-50,000
Associated Press
30 July 1995: "The Japanese military said 6,000 were killed. Singaporeans put the death toll at 50,000."
12 Sept 1995: 30,000-40,000
National Archives of Singapore: 8,600 reported. "[T]here were many more." [http://www.s1942.org.sg/dir_defence7.htm]
Grenville: 5,000
LC: 5,000-25,000 [http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/sgtoc.html]
[ANALYSIS: There's no consensus. I have 5 low estimates ranging from 5,000-8,600. I have 5 high estimates ranging from 25,000-100,000. Three sources hedge their bets by offering both a low estimate and a high estimate. Two give a low estimate exclusively, and two give a high estimate exclusively.]
Rummel blames the Japanese for 5,964,000 democides
POWs: 539,000 (400,000 Chinese)
Forced Labor: 1,010,000 (142,000 Chinese)
Massacres: 3,608,000 (2,850,000 Chinese)
Bombing/CB warfare: 558,000 (all Chinese)
Imposed Famine: 250,000 (none in China)
Rummel also estimates that General/Prime Minister Tojo Hideki was responsible for a lifetime total of 3,990,000 democides.
Some guy on Internet [http://www.jca.apc.org/JWRC/exhibit/Index.HTM]
Nanjing Massacre: 155,337 dead bodies
Chinese official estimate: >300,000
Japanese scholars:100-200,000
Datong Coal Mine, China: 60,000 slave laborers killed
Forced labor camps in Japan: 6,830 imported workers died
Singapore: 5,000 Chinese k -- another estimate: 50,000-60,000 k.
Burma-Siam RR: 12,400 POWs + 42,000 Asian wkrs
My estimate is that 11M civilians and 4.5M soldiers died in the Asian/Pacific War. That's 15,500,000 deaths which can probably be blamed on the Japanese to one extent or another.

Mussolini (r. 1922-1943)
Mark Mazower, Dark Continent: Europe's Twentieth Century (1998): total of 29 death sentences passed on political prisoners before 1939.
Rummel, democides by Fascist govt. of Italy:
Ethiopia and Libya: 200,000 [before WW2]
Yugoslavia: 15,000
Greeks: 9,000
Italians, domestically: 250
TOTAL: 224,250

Chinese Civil War (1945-49):
Bercovitch & Jackson: 100,000
Dan Smith: 1,000,000
Eckhardt: 1,000,000 from all causes
Small & Singer: 1,000,000 battle deaths
Wallechinsky: 1,200,000 battle deaths
Walker, Robert L., The Human Cost of Communism in China (1971): 1,250,000
Gilbert, citing Ho Ping-ti: 2,000,000 to 3,000,000 total deaths
Our Times: 3,000,000
Rummel:
War Dead: 1,201,000
Democide by Guomindang: 2,645,000
Democide by Communists: 2,323,000
Famine: 25,000
TOTAL: 6,194,000

People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975):
40 000 000
People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975): 40 000 000
Agence France Press (25 Sept. 1999) citing at length from Courtois, Stephane, Le Livre Noir du Communism:
Rural purges, 1946-49: 2-5M deaths
Urban purges, 1950-57: 1M
Great Leap Forward: 20-43M
Cultural Revolution: 2-7M
Labor Camps: 20M
Tibet: 0.6-1.2M
TOTAL: 44.5 to 72M
Guinness Book of World Records:
Although nowadays they don't come right out and declare Mao to be the Top Dog in the Mass Killings category, earlier editions (such as 1978) did, and they cited sources which are similar, but not identical, to the Glaser & Possony sources:
On 7 Apr. 1969 the Soviet government radio reported that 26,300,000 people were killed in China, 1949-65.
In April 1971 the cabinet of the government of Taiwan reported 39,940,000 deaths for the years 1949-69.
The Walker Report (see below): between 32,2500,000 and 61,700,000.

[Shibuyaexpat]

Originally Posted by Maciamo

...Westerners have not cared much about it as they were not directly concerned...

Maciamo, I think you hit the nail on the head. Westerners, for the most part, are still oblivious to the happenings in Asia, primarily because it was always looked at as a source of revenue for Western nations. Additionally, the language is so foreign that the task becomes that much more difficult to fully understand what's happening here.

While in the U.S. we're beat over the head with everything that happended during the European chapter, very little is still own about what Japan did leading up to Pearl Harbor. I don't think that this is out of maliciousness--just out of ignorance.

I think what's at the heart of the matter is that Japan feels that it has already reconciled its past, but the rest of Asia sees Japan's reconciliation with the West only and NOT its Asian neighbors. (I'm still amazed at how Japanese people trip over themselves in trying to accomodate Caucasians who speak English versus Asians from China, Malaysia, Korea, etc.)

[Shibuyaexpat]

Originally Posted by Eisuke

Here is a complete list of National Death Tolls for the Second World War
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/ww2stats.htm

I guess my only complaint with that list is that the Germans were notorious for their record keeping. Every bullet, every blanket and death (off the battle field) directly under Nazi supervision is well accounted for.

Such records in Asia don't exist because:
- Japanese did not maintain records;
- Japanese burned a lot of the historical texts in occupied countries, making it difficult to identify how the popular census of a nation before the occupation.

[Eisuke]

Originally Posted by Shibuyaexpat

Such records in Asia don't exist because:
- Japanese did not maintain records;
- Japanese burned a lot of the historical texts in occupied countries, making it difficult to identify how the popular census of a nation before the occupation.

This is based on estimates from all kinds of sources.

[Shibuyaexpat]

Yes, i read the link. My point is that there are still just second or third party references and at best, they are very limited guesses because unlike the European chapter, the Pacific chapter is more difficult to calcuate who many people actually lived before the occupation.

[Eisuke]

Originally Posted by Shibuyaexpat

Yes, i read the link. My point is that there are still just second or third party references and at best, they are very limited guesses because unlike the European chapter, the Pacific chapter is more difficult to calcuate who many people actually lived before the occupation.

It was more difficult for Asia, but this is a good estimate.

[梁铠赞]

Originally Posted by Eisuke

Here is a complete list of National Death Tolls for the Second World War
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/ww2stats.htm

I dun care how many ppl died bcause of mao or others....but I do know that japanese also guilty...even with apologize it cant be solved bcause we are talkin abut thousands lifes of innocent....the least way we can do is only by PRETENDING TO FORGIVE THE ONE WHO APOLOGIZE....but Japanese not apologize to China...even if mao killed so many people...japanese also torched and killed alot alot alot of ppl(Indonesia,Malaysia,China,etc) too....And do the jap feel guilty??? I think no..

p.s. English is not my mother tounge...sorry for grammar mistakes

[Maciamo]

Eisuke, so you are saying that the number of people killed by the Japanese is 15 million, while those killed by the Nazi are between 10 and 25 millions ?

However, looking at the casualties in China alone (all caused by the Japanese), the estimations are mainly between 10 and 20 million. We have to add a few more million people from other Asian countries (not just South-East Asian, but also Korean, Indian and Western casualties).

As Shibuyaexpat said, there is no reliable record of the massacres committed there. When you see that the estimates for India alone are already over 2 million. Add to this figures of single massacres like Sook Ching in Singapore (about 50,000 deaths), the Manilla Massacre (100,000 deaths), and from your stats about 900,000 non-Chinese slave labor, 100-200,000 Japanese scholars, etc. I think we are reaching similar or exceeding numbers to those of the Nazi (and that's with all the record burnt and all the downplaying by the Japanese after the war). The main difference is that the Nazi killed proportionally more soldiers than civilians, while the Japanese killed much more civilians.

We probably will never know the exact figures. I wouldn't count Mao or Stalin's massacre of their own people as war crime, although they were probably as bad as war. The main issue here is that Japan is still hated in Asia for invading, plundering, destroying their countries, raping their women and killing civilians, including women and children indiscriminately. From this point of view the Japanese were much more barbaric than the Nazi (who concentrated on soldiers and otherwise the Jewish minority, with notable exception for those with special skills or germanic looks).

[名無し]

Originally Posted by victorinuscheung

Japanese government do not apologise what they did in the World War 2.

Originally Posted by 梁铠赞

but Japanese not apologize to China...

Ignorance about Japan's apologies does not necessarily mean that Japan has not apologized. People like them are the ones who spread around the big lie knowingly or unknowingly.

LINK

When facing the fact then they change the argument all the sudden, claiming that apologies were not in the way they want.
And a billion more still thinking the same.

[RockLee]

I don't want to sound like a p r i c k, but this guy just came here to spam about Japan.Every post he made is aimed with anti-Japan feelings !

[梁铠赞]

Originally Posted by 名無し

Ignorance about Japan's apologies does not necessarily mean that Japan has not apologized. People like them are the ones who spread around the big lie knowingly or unknowingly.

LINK

When facing the fact then they change the argument all the sudden, claiming that apologies were not in the way they want.
And a billion more still thinking the same.

what?? we dun really wan Japanese to apologize...If apologize can solve everything then there's no war in this world....dun u understand wat we want??? or maybe u ppl japanese never feel guilty bcause killing ppl for ye emperor is always correct....:P

自私的日本人

[梁铠赞]

Originally Posted by RockLee

I don't want to sound like a p r i c k, but this guy just came here to spam about Japan.Every post he made is aimed with anti-Japan feelings !

who? if me i would like to say sorry....maybe I too over in my writing..but i'm not anti-jap....I'm just dicussing....

[alexriversan]

Originally Posted by RockLee

I don't want to sound like a p r i c k, but this guy just came here to spam about Japan.Every post he made is aimed with anti-Japan feelings !

single messages are not spam. spam means the same piece of worthless information is sent to a numeric amount of untargeted address.

single messages can be worthless, of course. some times their worth is limited.

messages with a duplication count not above three are not considered as spam. otherwise, they might be, even if of worth.

a person who actually writes the messages by typing them in (different content of course) is not to be considered as a spammer. regardless of that, people may require therapy.

[Maciamo]

Originally Posted by 名無し

Ignorance about Japan's apologies does not necessarily mean that Japan has not apologized. People like them are the ones who spread around the big lie knowingly or unknowingly.

LINK

When facing the fact then they change the argument all the sudden, claiming that apologies were not in the way they want.
And a billion more still thinking the same.

In fact, the article of the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs mentions that Japan "through its colonial rule and aggression, caused tremendous damage and suffering to the people of many countries, particularly to those of Asian nations." However, it seems that Japan has not apologised individually to each country, not even to China that was the worst hit.

Much worse, during WWII Japan has plundered precious metals, ancient books and other artifacts worth trillion of US$. It has only returned a negligible amount of the goods stolen and has done all it could (with US collusion) to keep its loot secret, as extensively explained in the book Gold Warriors.

The MOFA article continues with

Originally Posted by MOFA

Furthermore, Japan provided nearly 946 billion yen to a number of Asian countries, including the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and the Republic of Korea, in reparations and other payments.

That about 10 billion US$. Let just say nothing compared to what Japan plundered in these countries. What's more, it makes no mention of paying any reparation to China. And who is complaining about WWII now ? Not these countries, but China, that was the worst hit and plundered.

Regarding "comfort women", the MOFA says

Originally Posted by MOFA

In cooperation with the Asian Women's Fund, assistance has been extended to women in the Philippines, the Republic of Korea and Taiwan. Work is ongoing in these countries, as well as in Indonesia and the Netherlands, aimed at resolving this issue. Talks continue with representatives of other Asian countries.

Again, no mention of China. What do they have against the Chinese to always refuse to apologise or pay reparations to them in particular ? The last sentence makes it clear that apologies have not been given to the "other countries".

Finally, about the textbooks :

Originally Posted by MOFA

Another matter for which Japan is constantly criticized is the teaching of wartime history. I would like to assure readers that Japan is keenly aware of the importance of history education. There are 33 official history textbooks currently used in Japanese schools. Each one covers wartime history extensively. In these textbooks the words "invasion (of China)" often are used, contrary to the belief that the words were changed to "advance into China." Furthermore, education guidelines prepared by the Ministry of Education clearly encourage teachers to descuss with their students the historical background to events that took place during the Sino-Japanese war.

Very vague language. Very much on the defensive. It does not say that all 33 textbooks talk about the "invasion of China", and it does not say that even one of them refers to the "Nanjing Massacre" as anything else than an "incident", which is why Japan is being criticised now.

Originally Posted by MOFA

Furthermore, this education is not confined to the classroom. These days, Japanese school children are travelling abroad in larger and larger numbers, helping to advance better understanding between young people of different nations.

Just an excuse to levy the responsibility from the Ministry of Education. It does not guarantee that all or even a majority of Japanese people will know about what happened in China during WWII (and it is unacceptable even for me, a European, that even a few of them don't know - I suppose the Chinese can only agree more with that). In fact, I have talked with many Japanese about the WWII, and few have any idea that Japan killed millions of people in China alone. They may think it's just a few tens or hundreds of thousands. I am pretty sure that Japanese textbooks do not mention figures of 10 million civilian deaths in China, if they are already reluctant to write about 300,000 deaths in Nanjing.

[Maciamo]

Originally Posted by 梁铠赞

what?? we dun really wan Japanese to apologize...If apologize can solve everything then there's no war in this world....dun u understand wat we want??? or maybe u ppl japanese never feel guilty bcause killing ppl for ye emperor is always correct....:P

That's a fair point. Personally I think that apologies are the least of the things to do, but that it's certainly not enough and does not repair anything. How much value do you give to a human life ? Maybe we should ask Japanese people how much money they would give to save their own life. Then multiply this by the number of casualties caused by the Japanese throughout Asia (still have to agree on the numbers), and pay the compensation accordingly. The problem is that Japan would never be able to pay, even giving away all the stocks of all its companies at their current value. In fact, if Japan really wanted to apologise sincerely, it would let all the country it invaded occupy and control Japan, both politically and economically (as Japan did to them) during the same duration as Japan occupied each of them. There would be no killing, rape, slave labor or comfort women, so that's a preety advantageous deal for Japan, I'd think. They only get to repay for the material and political upheaval they created, not the human cost and suffering. But I am sure that would still be too much to ask them, because after all they are not really sincere in their apologies. Hypocritical as always.

[mad pierrot]

I don't want to sound like a p r i c k, but this guy just came here to spam about Japan.Every post he made is aimed with anti-Japan feelings !

I'm with you on this one. If this goes anywhere near that same kind of who killed more-who's to blame kind of thread I suggest giving it the boot.

who? if me i would like to say sorry....maybe I too over in my writing..but i'm not anti-jap....I'm just dicussing....

Maybe so. But using "Jap" isn't helping your case. Also, I think the Rocklee meant the thread starter, not you.

[RockLee]

Originally Posted by mad pierrot

I'm with you on this one. If this goes anywhere near that same kind of who killed more-who's to blame kind of thread I suggest giving it the boot.

My point exactly !

Maybe so. But using "Jap" isn't helping your case. Also, I think the Rocklee meant the thread starter, not you.

Yep


It's ok to discuss about those things, but not to come on the forum just to give your sentiments about how you dislike Japan.I have a feeling the Chinese just want someone to blame.Afterall Japan is a very modern and technologyrich country wich China is not.(at least not as Japan)

[名無し]

Originally Posted by Maciamo

What do they have against the Chinese to always refuse to apologise or pay reparations to them in particular ?

perhaps the Joint Communiqu� of 1972, which says

5. The Government of the People's Republic of China declares that in the interest of the friendship between the Chinese and the Japanese peoples, it renounces its demand for war reparation from Japan.

[kirei_na_me]

Originally Posted by RockLee

I don't want to sound like a p r i c k, but this guy just came here to spam about Japan.Every post he made is aimed with anti-Japan feelings !

Agreed.

Well, no worries. People see them for who they are. Most people, anyway.

[梁铠赞]

Originally Posted by Maciamo

That's a fair point. Personally I think that apologies are the least of the things to do, but that it's certainly not enough and does not repair anything. How much value do you give to a human life ? Maybe we should ask Japanese people how much money they would give to save their own life. Then multiply this by the number of casualties caused by the Japanese throughout Asia (still have to agree on the numbers), and pay the compensation accordingly. The problem is that Japan would never be able to pay, even giving away all the stocks of all its companies at their current value. In fact, if Japan really wanted to apologise sincerely, it would let all the country it invaded occupy and control Japan, both politically and economically (as Japan did to them) during the same duration as Japan occupied each of them. There would be no killing, rape, slave labor or comfort women, so that's a preety advantageous deal for Japan, I'd think. They only get to repay for the material and political upheaval they created, not the human cost and suffering. But I am sure that would still be too much to ask them, because after all they are not really sincere in their apologies. Hypocritical as always.

Thx for making my words more clearer...I can't write clearly with my broken english...T_T

As Maciamo said you ppl can't bring the dead back to life...so wat we demand is respect and apologize sincerly...and about the fishing island...I dun really know the problem occured(I never been to China before >< )...but give it back to china at least as an apology....

[skyyrie]

Originally Posted by Maciamo

There is little doubt that Japan was worse than Germany or Italy during WWII. Westerners usually don't know much about it because what happened in Asia since the early 1930's is less taught at school than the events of WWII in Europe.

The Japanese treated their prisonners much worse than the Nazi (27% of pow's in Japanese hands died, compared with 4 per cent of those in German captivity; see article).

The total number of casualities caused by Japan were higher than those of the Nazi. The number of prisoners or slave labour that died in Japanese mines, factories, etc. is also comparable to the Nazi concentration camps. Having a look at the statistics, there were 10 million civilian, and 2.5 million military casualities in China alone. In comparison, Japan lost 1,300,000 soldiers and 672,000 civilians (about 1/3 of whom died in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings).

The Nazi exterminated from 5 to 6 million Jews during WWII. This is half of the number of Chinese people killed by the Japanese during WWII. The Wikipedia statistics do not show the number for other Asian countries, although they were much higher than in most invaded European countries. But only the Chinese casualities show the extreme violence and barbarism of that the Japanese were capable of.

Add to this an estimated 100,000 to 400,000 comfort women, women from all East Asian countries as well as a few European ones, who were forced into sexual slavery by the Japanese. I also haven't heard of anything so disproportionate committed by the Nazi.

I haven't heard of the Nazi committing such atrocities as the mass rape and murder of civilians like in Nanking in 1937 (death toll estimated between 100,000 and 300,000), in Manilla in 1945 (over 100,000 civilian deaths), or the various other Japanese War Atrocities.

The infamous Japanese Unit 731, a biological warfare lab conducting experiments on human beings, was also responsible for up to 200,000 deaths.

All this seems much worse than the total of deeds committed by the Nazi. Westerners have not cared much about it as they were not directly concerned. But I totally understand that China and other Asian countries are still angry and still want more than hypocritical apologies, but real war damages. I think the Chinese are baheving in a very meek way when they hear that Japan's Prime Ministers still honour the Japanese military leaders responsible for the death of 12.5 million Chinese. If the German chancellor visited a shrine dedicated to Hitler even once, he would be forced to resign immediately, probably tried and sent to jail, and could even be assassinated by some Jewish extremists. When I see them throwing eggs at the Japanese embassy, I think that the Chinese are very forgiveful, little determined or very ignorant of the extent of what happened in their own country during WWII.

All you think is to treat the kindness of china as a joke.

[Anthraquinone]

<On World war II>
Japan:
Japan regained its independence by signing
the San Francisco Peace Treaty in 1952.
And have concluded a treaty with Korea and
China.
German:
German has not concluded any peace treaty
with United nations and her neinboring countries.

<Nangking and Auschwitz>
Nangjing:
United nations treated Nangjing "as warcrime".
Nangjing have not been carried out
any scientific and historycal research by any
countries except Red china.
Auschwitz:
This case had been treated as "Ethnic extinction",
not Warcrime.
This case had been carried out much scientific and
historical research by other countries includes
German, Israel.

<Others>
During World War II, United states had cracked down
"only japanese-american" as the enemy.
German-american was not suffered such a suppression.