How long did it take you to learn english?

GoldCoinLover · Jul 8, 2005, 07:23

How long did it take you to become fluent in english? I've heard english is alot easier than japanese, and other languages, is this true?

I've heard it takes an american person 10 years to become fluent in writing, reading, and speaking japanese.

sadakoyamamura · Jul 9, 2005, 11:43

Originally Posted by GoldCoinLover

How long did it take you to become fluent in english? I've heard english is alot easier than japanese, and other languages, is this true?

I've heard it takes an american person 10 years to become fluent in writing, reading, and speaking japanese.

It didn't take me as long as 10 years to learn English because I started young but I bet that its gonna take longer than that in Japanese. I mean in the speaking alone I think I've been trying to learn for the last 3 years and I still am beginner level. I guess this is brought about by not being very exposed to an atmosphere where learning Japanese is a must.

Gaijinian · Jul 12, 2005, 07:42

えぇッとですね、流暢になるのは１０年間かかるっていうより、知能の遅れた人の標準ですかね・・・。

Jul 17, 2005, 18:12

Is it me or was the above post a load of sqaures???

Brooker · Jul 18, 2005, 06:33

28 years....................................

RockLee · Jul 18, 2005, 12:39

hmm been studying it since 1st grade of highschool...that's about 11 years ago.

**-Rudel-** · Aug 4, 2005, 12:02

Working on 2 1/2 years in Japanese. I think I am ready for JPLT 4.
Just need to brush up on the Kanji.

It's amazing that in America, most people are told that English is the hardest language to learn, YET....YET! I see many foreigners mastering English as if it were nothing.

But if an American trys to learn another language, it can be harder. Wierd.

Perhaps they meant, "American" English is the hardest, since we speak with so much slang, and metaphors.

**lexico** · Aug 4, 2005, 14:24

Originally Posted by Chiaki_Kuriyama_Fan

Is it me or was the above post a load of sqaures???

Try adjusting the menu bar setting; e.g. if you use Internet Expolorer,

On the menu bar, click 3rd from left "View(V)" for pull-down menu
Drag mouse pointer down to 8th from top "Encoding (D)" for right pull-down menu
If you see "Japanese (Shift-JIS)" click on it.
If you don't see it, click on "Other (M)" which will give you more choices; look for "Japanese (Shift-JIS)"

That should give you all the kana/kanji that's supposed to be in Gaijinian's post. If you still have several squares, and you really want to see them, try copy-and-pasting into Windows Memopad or a word processor with CJK capability. I still get 7 squares with Japanese shift-JIS; those are simplified Chinese characters; 1st line: 說, 話, 說, 說, 麽, 2nd line: 東, 嗎.

Does anyone know how to get JIS and Simplified hanzi on the same page ?

Apri1 · Aug 12, 2005, 13:48

i found japanese to be the easiest language to learn and i've studied a lot.

i think you never stop learning a language but you can be somehwat fluent in 2 years at least. 5 at the most.

**Uncle Frank** · Aug 12, 2005, 20:16

Been at it for 55 years and still can't spell. I'm getting better at the grammer and vocabulary. I feel ashamed I can't learn another language like so many of our members!

Frank

GoldCoinLover · Sep 13, 2005, 09:37

Originally Posted by Frank D. White

Been at it for 55 years and still can't spell. I'm getting better at the grammer and vocabulary. I feel ashamed I can't learn another language like so many of our members!

Frank

Ahh, japanese you mean?

nice gaijin · Sep 14, 2005, 13:06

I think Frank is talking about English, seeing as he's writing in English and talks about not being able to learn another language... Just some induction for your benefit.

Elizabeth · Sep 15, 2005, 11:47

Originally Posted by nice gaijin

I think Frank is talking about English, seeing as he's writing in English and talks about not being able to learn another language... Just some induction for your benefit.

He also hasn't been very successful at studying Japanese for long periods in the US (which might make it seem like 55 years

). That may have been what Goldcoinlover was referring to. Either way, I didn't see his response as particularly out of place at all.

GoldCoinLover · Sep 15, 2005, 12:19

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

He also hasn't been very successful at studying Japanese for long periods in the US (which might make it seem like 55 years ). That may have been what Goldcoinlover was referring to. Either way, I didn't see his response as particularly out of place at all.

Elizabeth you are a really nice person..are you ignoring my private message?

Xsuit · Oct 6, 2005, 09:59

Well when it comes to english or rather american english it's very hard to say because the language is constantly changing. One can learn the basics in perhaps a year or so but I've been learning for about 18 years and well all I can say is I still don't know everything and probably never will since everything changes and words are intergrated and used in different ways and then new words are being thought up and so on and so on but the basics of merican english, yeah it's pretty easy to learn and the rest is mostly just atlib or based on instinct in a sense, ah well.

miu · Oct 28, 2005, 20:25

I was 'taught' English at kindergarten when I was 5 but didn't really start studying it until I was 11. I can't say how long it took me to learn English because I feel like I'm still learning

I studied English at school for about 7 years or so but I think I might've been pretty fluent after 5 years or so... That is, being able to read all sorts or texts and talk with English speakers little or no difficulty. But I can't be entirely sure because you think you're doing fine when you're necessarily not

Sensuikan San · Oct 31, 2005, 11:07

Originally Posted by lexico

Try adjusting the menu bar setting; e.g. if you use Internet Expolorer,

On the menu bar, click 3rd from left "View(V)" for pull-down menu
Drag mouse pointer down to 8th from top "Encoding (D)" for right pull-down menu
If you see "Japanese (Shift-JIS)" click on it.
If you don't see it, click on "Other (M)" which will give you more choices; look for "Japanese (Shift-JIS)"

That should give you all the kana/kanji that's supposed to be in Gaijinian's post. If you still have several squares, and you really want to see them, try copy-and-pasting into Windows Memopad or a word processor with CJK capability. I still get 7 squares with Japanese shift-JIS; those are simplified Chinese characters; 1st line: 說, 話, 說, 說, 麽, 2nd line: 東, 嗎.

Does anyone know how to get JIS and Simplified hanzi on the same page ?

My word ... this is several months after the question ... but I just read your post Lex. - and I don't have the problem at all!

In addition to seleting the "shift-JIS", I also select "Japanese" under "Auto-Detect"

... I never get the "squares" or "?" symbols. And this seems to work in Netscape, Firefox, IE, Opera ... et al.

Sorry to take so long!

(and ... I do have Asian language support downloaded (free) from Microsoft - but I guess we all do ....)

ジョン

lastmagi · Oct 31, 2005, 13:30

My writing English is somewhat decent. I'm still having trouble with prepositions and little things like that. But my speaking English is horrible. Words get put in grammatically incorrect or awkward spots, and I'm amazed that people can even understand me.

I'm still working on it, I guess.

Dekamaster · Nov 4, 2005, 15:06

Still learning something new each day...

Anchyyy · Nov 13, 2005, 18:28

It took me about six years. My english is still not perfect, even tho i'm the best in class when it comes to english

**Mycernius** · Nov 13, 2005, 23:59

Still learning after 35 years. What doesn't help is the way that a word can change its meaning. I think the best example is the word Gay. 30 years ago it meant happy, cheerful. then it starts to mean someone who is homosexual. It is now being used by the youth in the UK to maen sad or uncool as in
"Do you want to go to such and such"
"No, that's so gay"
It is bad enough trying to keep up with this as a native speaker. No wonder some non-native speakers get confused. Even more so when the slang. Even everyday words can mean something different in the US compared to the UK.
ie: British English.............................American English
Pavement/Path...................................Sidewalk
Road.............................................. ...Pavement
Lift.............................................. .....Elevator
Bonnet............................................ ..Hood
Boot.............................................. ...Trunk
Trousers.......................................... ..Pants
Autumn............................................ .Fall (old English word that fell out of use in the UK)
Arse.............................................. ...***
Chips............................................. ...Fries
Crisps............................................ ...Potato chips
Fag (Slang).......................................Ciga rette

Even spelling can cause difficulty
Travelling........................................ ..Traveling
Colour............................................ ..Color
Favourite......................................... .Favorite
Analyse........................................... .Analyze
Theatre........................................... .Theater

And then there are words that are spelt the same, but said differently:
In BrEng: Bouy as Boy
In AmEng: Bouy as Boo ee
In BrEng: Route as Root
In AmEng Route as rout (This seems to be regional in the US)
In BrEng Hostile as Hos tile
In AmEng Hostile as hostel

Anchyyy · Nov 14, 2005, 01:39

Originally Posted by Mycernius

Still learning after 35 years. What doesn't help is the way that a word can change its meaning. I think the best example is the word Gay. 30 years ago it meant happy, cheerful. then it starts to mean someone who is homosexual. It is now being used by the youth in the UK to maen sad or uncool as in
"Do you want to go to such and such"
"No, that's so gay"
It is bad enough trying to keep up with this as a native speaker. No wonder some non-native speakers get confused. Even more so when the slang. Even everyday words can mean something different in the US compared to the UK.
ie: British English.............................American English
Pavement/Path...................................Sidewalk
Road.............................................. ...Pavement
Lift.............................................. .....Elevator
Bonnet............................................ ..Hood
Boot.............................................. ...Trunk
Trousers.......................................... ..Pants
Autumn............................................ .Fall (old English word that fell out of use in the UK)
Arse.............................................. ...***
Chips............................................. ...Fries
Crisps............................................ ...Potato chips
Fag (Slang).......................................Ciga rette

Even spelling can cause difficulty
Travelling........................................ ..Traveling
Colour............................................ ..Color
Favourite......................................... .Favorite
Analyse........................................... .Analyze
Theatre........................................... .Theater

And then there are words that are spelt the same, but said differently:
In BrEng: Bouy as Boy
In AmEng: Bouy as Boo ee
In BrEng: Route as Root
In AmEng Route as rout (This seems to be regional in the US)
In BrEng Hostile as Hos tile
In AmEng Hostile as hostel

You learn something new everyday!

I still have to work hard on my english.

ShayLee · Nov 14, 2005, 04:05

I started learning english when I was 10, so that's 8 years, and I still suck big time. I just don't get tenses

Oh, and may I add some more words to Mycernius's list?

British .......... American

railway .......... railroad
engine .......... motor
sweets .......... candy

handbag .......... purse
film .......... movie
shop .......... store
chemist .......... pharmacy
leave .......... quit
lorry .......... truck
tap .......... faucet

That's all I can remember for now. I have few more words in my mind, but dunno, which is AmEn and which BrEng : money - cash, biscuit - cookie, subway, first floor (there is sth confusing about floors, I remember that)

**Mycernius** · Nov 14, 2005, 05:02

Originally Posted by ShayLee

subway, first floor (there is sth confusing about floors, I remember that)

In the UK the ground floor is called the Ground floor (Well, duh!). In the US it is the first floor. The first floor in the UK is the one above the ground floor. If you are in the US it is the second floor. I have been told that the Japanese use the American system for tall buildings

nanda · Nov 14, 2005, 16:18

i started learning english when i was in junior high, i was .. 11 .. so .. 9 years, almost 10 years ..
and i'm still learning .. *sigh .. i have serious problems with grammar and vocabulary .. and speaking .. and writing ..

Jul 8, 2005, 07:23	#1
GoldCoinLover Returning student Join Date: May 24, 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Age: 21 Posts: 794	How long did it take you to learn english? How long did it take you to become fluent in english? I've heard english is alot easier than japanese, and other languages, is this true? I've heard it takes an american person 10 years to become fluent in writing, reading, and speaking japanese.

Jul 9, 2005, 11:43	#2
sadakoyamamura Danshaku Sadako Join Date: Dec 30, 2003 Location: Desktop Posts: 212	Originally Posted by GoldCoinLover How long did it take you to become fluent in english? I've heard english is alot easier than japanese, and other languages, is this true? I've heard it takes an american person 10 years to become fluent in writing, reading, and speaking japanese. It didn't take me as long as 10 years to learn English because I started young but I bet that its gonna take longer than that in Japanese. I mean in the speaking alone I think I've been trying to learn for the last 3 years and I still am beginner level. I guess this is brought about by not being very exposed to an atmosphere where learning Japanese is a must. __________________ That posterity may know we have not loosely through silence permitted things to pass away as in a dream. � Richard Hooker

Jul 12, 2005, 07:42	#3
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Jul 17, 2005, 18:12	#4
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Aug 4, 2005, 12:02	#7
-Rudel- Fire Star Man Join Date: Feb 8, 2005 Location: 東、沖縄市 Age: 27 Posts: 568 Blog Entries: 2	Working on 2 1/2 years in Japanese. I think I am ready for JPLT 4. Just need to brush up on the Kanji. It's amazing that in America, most people are told that English is the hardest language to learn, YET....YET! I see many foreigners mastering English as if it were nothing. But if an American trys to learn another language, it can be harder. Wierd. Perhaps they meant, "American" English is the hardest, since we speak with so much slang, and metaphors. __________________ I Listened Too:

Aug 4, 2005, 14:24	#8
lexico Chukchi Salmon Join Date: Dec 22, 2004 Location: Sunny South Korea Posts: 2,223	Originally Posted by Chiaki_Kuriyama_Fan Is it me or was the above post a load of sqaures??? Try adjusting the menu bar setting; e.g. if you use Internet Expolorer, On the menu bar, click 3rd from left "View(V)" for pull-down menu Drag mouse pointer down to 8th from top "Encoding (D)" for right pull-down menu If you see "Japanese (Shift-JIS)" click on it. If you don't see it, click on "Other (M)" which will give you more choices; look for "Japanese (Shift-JIS)" That should give you all the kana/kanji that's supposed to be in Gaijinian's post. If you still have several squares, and you really want to see them, try copy-and-pasting into Windows Memopad or a word processor with CJK capability. I still get 7 squares with Japanese shift-JIS; those are simplified Chinese characters; 1st line: 說, 話, 說, 說, 麽, 2nd line: 東, 嗎. Does anyone know how to get JIS and Simplified hanzi on the same page ? Last edited by lexico; Aug 4, 2005 at 17:23.

Aug 12, 2005, 13:48	#9
Apri1 I didnt do it Join Date: May 24, 2005 Posts: 40	i found japanese to be the easiest language to learn and i've studied a lot. i think you never stop learning a language but you can be somehwat fluent in 2 years at least. 5 at the most.

Aug 12, 2005, 20:16	#10
Uncle Frank You SPAM/We BAN ! Join Date: May 21, 2003 Location: State of Maine Age: 59 Posts: 6,715	Still Trying !! Been at it for 55 years and still can't spell. I'm getting better at the grammer and vocabulary. I feel ashamed I can't learn another language like so many of our members! Frank __________________ TAKE WHAT I SAY WITH A GRAIN OF SUGAR !! I USED TO BE FUNNY, BUT MY WIFE HAD ME NEUTERED!

Sep 13, 2005, 09:37	#11
GoldCoinLover Returning student Join Date: May 24, 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Age: 21 Posts: 794	Originally Posted by Frank D. White Been at it for 55 years and still can't spell. I'm getting better at the grammer and vocabulary. I feel ashamed I can't learn another language like so many of our members! Frank Ahh, japanese you mean?

Sep 14, 2005, 13:06	#12
nice gaijin Resident Realist Join Date: Aug 8, 2005 Posts: 3,686	I think Frank is talking about English, seeing as he's writing in English and talks about not being able to learn another language... Just some induction for your benefit.

Sep 15, 2005, 11:47	#13
Elizabeth Regular Member Join Date: Apr 22, 2003 Location: アメリカ Posts: 8,505	Originally Posted by nice gaijin I think Frank is talking about English, seeing as he's writing in English and talks about not being able to learn another language... Just some induction for your benefit. He also hasn't been very successful at studying Japanese for long periods in the US (which might make it seem like 55 years ). That may have been what Goldcoinlover was referring to. Either way, I didn't see his response as particularly out of place at all. __________________ たとえ辛くても、永遠に続く苦しみなどないでしょう。

Sep 15, 2005, 12:19	#14
GoldCoinLover Returning student Join Date: May 24, 2004 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Age: 21 Posts: 794	Originally Posted by Elizabeth He also hasn't been very successful at studying Japanese for long periods in the US (which might make it seem like 55 years ). That may have been what Goldcoinlover was referring to. Either way, I didn't see his response as particularly out of place at all. Elizabeth you are a really nice person..are you ignoring my private message?

Oct 6, 2005, 09:59	#15
Xsuit Junior Member Join Date: Oct 5, 2005 Location: USA Age: 22 Posts: 12	Well when it comes to english or rather american english it's very hard to say because the language is constantly changing. One can learn the basics in perhaps a year or so but I've been learning for about 18 years and well all I can say is I still don't know everything and probably never will since everything changes and words are intergrated and used in different ways and then new words are being thought up and so on and so on but the basics of merican english, yeah it's pretty easy to learn and the rest is mostly just atlib or based on instinct in a sense, ah well.

Oct 28, 2005, 20:25	#16
miu Regular Member Join Date: Dec 2, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 26 Posts: 123	I was 'taught' English at kindergarten when I was 5 but didn't really start studying it until I was 11. I can't say how long it took me to learn English because I feel like I'm still learning I studied English at school for about 7 years or so but I think I might've been pretty fluent after 5 years or so... That is, being able to read all sorts or texts and talk with English speakers little or no difficulty. But I can't be entirely sure because you think you're doing fine when you're necessarily not __________________ Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

Oct 31, 2005, 11:07	#17
Sensuikan San The Geezer Join Date: Feb 9, 2005 Location: Near Vancouver BC Age: 66 Posts: 510	Originally Posted by lexico Try adjusting the menu bar setting; e.g. if you use Internet Expolorer, On the menu bar, click 3rd from left "View(V)" for pull-down menu Drag mouse pointer down to 8th from top "Encoding (D)" for right pull-down menu If you see "Japanese (Shift-JIS)" click on it. If you don't see it, click on "Other (M)" which will give you more choices; look for "Japanese (Shift-JIS)" That should give you all the kana/kanji that's supposed to be in Gaijinian's post. If you still have several squares, and you really want to see them, try copy-and-pasting into Windows Memopad or a word processor with CJK capability. I still get 7 squares with Japanese shift-JIS; those are simplified Chinese characters; 1st line: 說, 話, 說, 說, 麽, 2nd line: 東, 嗎. Does anyone know how to get JIS and Simplified hanzi on the same page ? My word ... this is several months after the question ... but I just read your post Lex. - and I don't have the problem at all! In addition to seleting the "shift-JIS", I also select "Japanese" under "Auto-Detect" ... I never get the "squares" or "?" symbols. And this seems to work in Netscape, Firefox, IE, Opera ... et al. Sorry to take so long! (and ... I do have Asian language support downloaded (free) from Microsoft - but I guess we all do ....) ジョン __________________ Why have an electric toothbrush ... if you don't have electric teeth?

Oct 31, 2005, 13:30	#18
lastmagi Yuyurungul Join Date: Feb 17, 2005 Age: 24 Posts: 380	My writing English is somewhat decent. I'm still having trouble with prepositions and little things like that. But my speaking English is horrible. Words get put in grammatically incorrect or awkward spots, and I'm amazed that people can even understand me. I'm still working on it, I guess.

Nov 4, 2005, 15:06	#19
Dekamaster 「地獄の番犬！」 Join Date: Feb 12, 2005 Location: Manila Age: 30 Posts: 420	Still learning something new each day...

Nov 13, 2005, 18:28	#20
Anchyyy Dreadlock Join Date: May 22, 2005 Location: Maribor Age: 19 Posts: 3,277	It took me about six years. My english is still not perfect, even tho i'm the best in class when it comes to english __________________ www.freeupload.eu

Nov 13, 2005, 23:59	#21
Mycernius The Hairy Wookie Join Date: Feb 4, 2005 Location: Hometown of George Eliot Age: 39 Posts: 3,227 Blog Entries: 2	Still learning after 35 years. What doesn't help is the way that a word can change its meaning. I think the best example is the word Gay. 30 years ago it meant happy, cheerful. then it starts to mean someone who is homosexual. It is now being used by the youth in the UK to maen sad or uncool as in "Do you want to go to such and such" "No, that's so gay" It is bad enough trying to keep up with this as a native speaker. No wonder some non-native speakers get confused. Even more so when the slang. Even everyday words can mean something different in the US compared to the UK. ie: British English.............................American English Pavement/Path...................................Sidewalk Road.............................................. ...Pavement Lift.............................................. .....Elevator Bonnet............................................ ..Hood Boot.............................................. ...Trunk Trousers.......................................... ..Pants Autumn............................................ .Fall (old English word that fell out of use in the UK) Arse.............................................. ...*** Chips............................................. ...Fries Crisps............................................ ...Potato chips Fag (Slang).......................................Ciga rette Even spelling can cause difficulty Travelling........................................ ..Traveling Colour............................................ ..Color Favourite......................................... .Favorite Analyse........................................... .Analyze Theatre........................................... .Theater And then there are words that are spelt the same, but said differently: In BrEng: Bouy as Boy In AmEng: Bouy as Boo ee In BrEng: Route as Root In AmEng Route as rout (This seems to be regional in the US) In BrEng Hostile as Hos tile In AmEng Hostile as hostel __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Remember the Siruis Cybernetic Corportations motto: Share and Enjoy

Nov 14, 2005, 01:39	#22
Anchyyy Dreadlock Join Date: May 22, 2005 Location: Maribor Age: 19 Posts: 3,277	Originally Posted by Mycernius Still learning after 35 years. What doesn't help is the way that a word can change its meaning. I think the best example is the word Gay. 30 years ago it meant happy, cheerful. then it starts to mean someone who is homosexual. It is now being used by the youth in the UK to maen sad or uncool as in "Do you want to go to such and such" "No, that's so gay" It is bad enough trying to keep up with this as a native speaker. No wonder some non-native speakers get confused. Even more so when the slang. Even everyday words can mean something different in the US compared to the UK. ie: British English.............................American English Pavement/Path...................................Sidewalk Road.............................................. ...Pavement Lift.............................................. .....Elevator Bonnet............................................ ..Hood Boot.............................................. ...Trunk Trousers.......................................... ..Pants Autumn............................................ .Fall (old English word that fell out of use in the UK) Arse.............................................. ...*** Chips............................................. ...Fries Crisps............................................ ...Potato chips Fag (Slang).......................................Ciga rette Even spelling can cause difficulty Travelling........................................ ..Traveling Colour............................................ ..Color Favourite......................................... .Favorite Analyse........................................... .Analyze Theatre........................................... .Theater And then there are words that are spelt the same, but said differently: In BrEng: Bouy as Boy In AmEng: Bouy as Boo ee In BrEng: Route as Root In AmEng Route as rout (This seems to be regional in the US) In BrEng Hostile as Hos tile In AmEng Hostile as hostel You learn something new everyday! I still have to work hard on my english.

Nov 14, 2005, 04:05	#23
ShayLee Regular Member Join Date: Oct 27, 2005 Age: 22 Posts: 51	I started learning english when I was 10, so that's 8 years, and I still suck big time. I just don't get tenses Oh, and may I add some more words to Mycernius's list? British .......... American railway .......... railroad engine .......... motor sweets .......... candy handbag .......... purse film .......... movie shop .......... store chemist .......... pharmacy leave .......... quit lorry .......... truck tap .......... faucet That's all I can remember for now. I have few more words in my mind, but dunno, which is AmEn and which BrEng : money - cash, biscuit - cookie, subway, first floor (there is sth confusing about floors, I remember that)

Nov 14, 2005, 05:02	#24
Mycernius The Hairy Wookie Join Date: Feb 4, 2005 Location: Hometown of George Eliot Age: 39 Posts: 3,227 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by ShayLee subway, first floor (there is sth confusing about floors, I remember that) In the UK the ground floor is called the Ground floor (Well, duh!). In the US it is the first floor. The first floor in the UK is the one above the ground floor. If you are in the US it is the second floor. I have been told that the Japanese use the American system for tall buildings

Nov 14, 2005, 16:18	#25
nanda What are u looking at? Join Date: Apr 6, 2005 Posts: 268	i started learning english when i was in junior high, i was .. 11 .. so .. 9 years, almost 10 years .. and i'm still learning .. *sigh .. i have serious problems with grammar and vocabulary .. and speaking .. and writing .. __________________ Pain is inevitable Suffering is optional

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