Japan Forum
About JREF | Contact Us | JREF Shop | Topsites | Advertising | Sitemap | Help
Site NavigationJREF Top > Japan Forum

Go Back   Japan Forum > Nihongo Forum > Learning Japanese > Textbooks, tests and language schools
Tokyo Thanksgiving Party, November 28! border=

Textbooks, tests and language schools Looking for advice about Japanese textbooks or language schools in Japan or abroad ? Questions about the JLPT ? Post them here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Sep 10, 2005, 13:26   #1
Fantt
Envious of Nabeshin's Fro
 
Fantt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 29, 2003
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Age: 40
Posts: 507
Fantt has a brilliant future
Residing in United_States
Genki Listening Comprehension

Anyone else have the Genki audio and workbook? I'm working through the lesson 6 listening comprehension stuff and got pretty upset tonight. In the first exercize, they through a good bit of words at you that don't appear in any of the vocabulary. I can understand enough of the dialogue to answer the questions, but the completionist in me really want to know what the heck that crazy old broad is saying.

At one point a stoner asks the hostel broad:
"Can we smoke in this room?"

She says, "No, you can not.  たばこはろびです。" I was wondering, what the heck kind of adjective is ろび???? Finally it dawned on me that it's ロビ, i.e. the lobby. She's saying that the stoner can light up in the lobby! Right?

My brain was just parsing the sentence as "As for tobacco it is robi."

There's other stuff in the dialogue confusing me too, does everyone else who is using this understand all the dialogues, or should I just concentrate on figuring out enough to answer the questions? Up until lesson 6, I haven't noticed unexplained grammar or vocabulary in these. Kinda pisses me off.
__________________
Study Study Study

My Pictures

Arizona Nihongo

My Reference Library
Fantt is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old Sep 13, 2005, 01:55   #2
Elizabeth
Regular Member
 
Elizabeth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 22, 2003
Location: アメリカ
Posts: 8,509
Elizabeth has disabled reputation
Residing in United States Female
たばこはろびです sounds funny to me too -- something like ロビではタバコを吸ってもいい is much better to learn from I think.
__________________
たとえ辛くても、永遠に続く苦しみなどないでしょう。
Elizabeth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2005, 04:58   #3
Fantt
Envious of Nabeshin's Fro
 
Fantt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 29, 2003
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Age: 40
Posts: 507
Fantt has a brilliant future
Residing in United_States
Thank Elizabeth. Does たばこはロビです sound more natural though? The intent may have been for it to sound more natural and since it's not relevant to the questions being asked it may be ok for students not to fully understand the conversation... Just frustrated me...
Fantt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2005, 05:21   #4
Elizabeth
Regular Member
 
Elizabeth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 22, 2003
Location: アメリカ
Posts: 8,509
Elizabeth has disabled reputation
Residing in United States Female
Originally Posted by Fantt
Thank Elizabeth. Does たばこはロビです sound more natural though? The intent may have been for it to sound more natural and since it's not relevant to the questions being asked it may be ok for students not to fully understand the conversation... Just frustrated me...
I think there were like 5-6 hits on Google, so I've been meaning to ask a native speaker but haven't gotten around to it.

Anyway, it's basically the same as saying Watashi wa eki desu. as short for "Watashi wa eki ni imasu," or "Smoking is in the lobby" so it's understandable for sure.
Elizabeth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2005, 06:21   #5
Fantt
Envious of Nabeshin's Fro
 
Fantt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 29, 2003
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Age: 40
Posts: 507
Fantt has a brilliant future
Residing in United_States

I think there were like 5-6 hits on Google, so I've been meaning to ask a native speaker but haven't gotten around to it.
What did you search for on Google?
Fantt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2005, 06:30   #6
Elizabeth
Regular Member
 
Elizabeth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 22, 2003
Location: アメリカ
Posts: 8,509
Elizabeth has disabled reputation
Residing in United States Female
Originally Posted by Fantt

I think there were like 5-6 hits on Google, so I've been meaning to ask a native speaker but haven't gotten around to it.
What did you search for on Google?
Hehe, I just asked someone and apparently both are fine. It's similar to "benkyou wa kyoushitsu desu" for "study in the classroom." Not necessarily more natural, just not directly translateable.
Elizabeth is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Where to go after Genki? estrata Textbooks, tests and language schools 4 Jun 19, 2005 01:56
Genki Corp. @ Japan GoldCoinLover All Things Japanese 5 Jan 29, 2005 08:18
How to practice listening comprehension? rajs20 Learning Japanese 4 Oct 26, 2004 08:46
Help with listening comprehension practice David Hallgren Learning Japanese 2 Sep 5, 2004 03:51
Listening Practice Websites for JLPT 4 lzydesmond Learning Japanese 9 Apr 15, 2004 18:27


All times are GMT +9. The time now is 17:51.



JREF Features
More JREF
Webmasters
Hosted Websites


vBulletin 3.8.3 Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
About - Contact - Sitemap - Help - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertising
Copyright © 1999-2009 Japan Reference All Rights Reserved