Difference beween Samurai and other warriers

mutaro · Oct 22, 2005, 00:59

Hi, I am writing about Samurai for my paper right now. I wonder what other guys consider about Samurai in Japan. Also, how do you differ Samurai from other contries warriers? If you have any ideas, please let me know.
Thank you

Mandylion · Oct 22, 2005, 01:55

That is a big topic!

- maybe you should start by telling us what you think first, then we can add our own thoughts when it is clear what you are interested in comparing.

nurizeko · Nov 5, 2005, 23:17

Indeed it is a big topic and i could help but i'de end up writing my own essay on it.

TuskCracker · Mar 3, 2006, 00:38

I just went to Barnes & Nobles. Several books, in the low-cost book area, on Samurai.

Silverbackman · Mar 7, 2006, 17:39

The Samurais are a lot like the feudal knight of medieval Europe and the feudal troops of ancient China. You have to be a bit more specific though.

yidaki · Mar 7, 2006, 18:57

Samurai, bushido, zen, tea ceremonies, origami.
It's rather complicated, and paradoxal.
At the beginning they were this proud warrior class, ready to slash you down for looking at them.
Over hundreds of years of peace, they were the ones who brought forth the techniques of bonsai cutting and japanese gardening, the very things alot of people consider japanese.

In zen buddhism, there's alot of examples of 'proper behaviour' when referring to samurai.
One thing is about how focused you should be on the task at hand.
When you sit, sit, when you walk, walk, but never stumble.
A good samurai should be able to complete a last swing of his blade even if his own head is severed, that's the kind of decisiveness one should always have.
It's part of the bushido, which is heavily based on zen buddhism.

pipokun · Mar 8, 2006, 22:06

It is a good start to choose the era, before/after the Edo.
Before the Edo, Europeans described samurai was taken as disloyal people...

irishlight42 · Apr 25, 2006, 22:20

Originally Posted by yidaki

Samurai, bushido, zen, tea ceremonies, origami.
It's rather complicated, and paradoxal.

Umm.... origami?

Ost Prussia · May 6, 2006, 04:02

There is basically two type of the Japanese WARRIORS...First being Ashikagu(peasant soldier) and the Samurai. Usualy the Samurai did not use
Mukets, but their highred Ashikagu could. their were three unifiers of Japan .Oda Nobunaga used the Portugese Musket in a whole new way of warfare. After that Two more would struggle for power in Japan
The second being Toyotomi Hidiyoshi and the third Isyasu Togugawa.

Shizu Seraph · May 20, 2006, 03:28

Discussing samurai is indeed a huge, complicated, and frustrating to boot. Why? Cause once you dig deeper, you'll find out a WHOLE shitload of misconceptions saturating society. Forget what you see in anime/manga; you've yet to see the REAL samurai.

As the others have said: be more specific What aspect of the samurai do you want to know? Is it the etymology? Is it the history? Is it the culture? Is it their social status? Is it the arms and armor? Is it "bushido"? Tell us...

And BTW, Ost Prussia, it's ashigaru. Not ashikagu. I supposed you confused it with Ashikaga, didn't you?

warakawa · May 23, 2006, 01:12

the samurais were well respected in the old japanese society. they had better looking armour.

Da Monstar · May 31, 2006, 03:30

us Norse was cooler. No warrior is cooler than the vikings. What other kind of warriors made use of the so-called "Berskergang" (too add to that, trust me, you do fight better drunk

but I havent tried out the mushrooms yet probably never will)

anyway for your project. Try go to www.wikipedia.org and choose the english(got most stuff on it) search for samurai.
I had a school project about "The Blitz" I just copy+pasted thw whole darn thing from the wikipedia and got around 3 pages of great info.. though my teacher saw through it

GroglovesJapan · Jun 8, 2006, 23:34

Hi there,
Buddhism wasnt the only religion found in Japan. Shintoism is the native religion of Japan and thats still what many Samurai still believed in.
I did a talk a couple of years ago about the difference in weapons and armour between Japanese and the typical european of the same period. European armour had to keep changing with new weapons and styles of fighting, yet the Japanese armour had no need to change (altough at some point the lacing and metallurgy[spelling?] was altered and that in turn made it lighter and easier to move about in) but of course Japan was pretty closed off throughout history.
I myself prefer Japanese armour to anything else.

Oct 22, 2005, 00:59	#1
mutaro Junior Member Join Date: Oct 5, 2005 Posts: 3	Difference beween Samurai and other warriers Hi, I am writing about Samurai for my paper right now. I wonder what other guys consider about Samurai in Japan. Also, how do you differ Samurai from other contries warriers? If you have any ideas, please let me know. Thank you

Mar 3, 2006, 00:38	#4
TuskCracker AmericaFlorida Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 528	I just went to Barnes & Nobles. Several books, in the low-cost book area, on Samurai. __________________ NewYorkCity/WashingtonDC/Bonn/London/Tokyo, the rest is mullet wrap

Mar 7, 2006, 18:57	#6
yidaki Regular Member Join Date: Feb 19, 2006 Location: Lund, Sweden Age: 26 Posts: 48	Samurai, bushido, zen, tea ceremonies, origami. It's rather complicated, and paradoxal. At the beginning they were this proud warrior class, ready to slash you down for looking at them. Over hundreds of years of peace, they were the ones who brought forth the techniques of bonsai cutting and japanese gardening, the very things alot of people consider japanese. In zen buddhism, there's alot of examples of 'proper behaviour' when referring to samurai. One thing is about how focused you should be on the task at hand. When you sit, sit, when you walk, walk, but never stumble. A good samurai should be able to complete a last swing of his blade even if his own head is severed, that's the kind of decisiveness one should always have. It's part of the bushido, which is heavily based on zen buddhism. __________________ あなたわきれいよ。それわすれない。 Poor signature I know, but you're reading it.

Apr 25, 2006, 22:20	#8
irishlight42 Michael O'Brien Join Date: Apr 22, 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 21 Posts: 66	Originally Posted by yidaki Samurai, bushido, zen, tea ceremonies, origami. It's rather complicated, and paradoxal. Umm.... origami?

May 6, 2006, 04:02	#9
Ost Prussia Junior Member Join Date: May 2, 2006 Location: U.S. and I HATE IT! Posts: 13	There is basically two type of the Japanese WARRIORS...First being Ashikagu(peasant soldier) and the Samurai. Usualy the Samurai did not use Mukets, but their highred Ashikagu could. their were three unifiers of Japan .Oda Nobunaga used the Portugese Musket in a whole new way of warfare. After that Two more would struggle for power in Japan The second being Toyotomi Hidiyoshi and the third Isyasu Togugawa. __________________ Güten Tag!

Oct 22, 2005, 01:55	#2
Mandylion Omnipotence personified Join Date: Mar 15, 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,121	That is a big topic! - maybe you should start by telling us what you think first, then we can add our own thoughts when it is clear what you are interested in comparing.

Nov 5, 2005, 23:17	#3
nurizeko tsuyaku o tsukete kudasai Join Date: Jan 19, 2005 Location: aberdeen, scotland Age: 24 Posts: 1,334	Indeed it is a big topic and i could help but i'de end up writing my own essay on it.

Mar 7, 2006, 17:39	#5
Silverbackman Regular Member Join Date: Mar 5, 2005 Posts: 141	The Samurais are a lot like the feudal knight of medieval Europe and the feudal troops of ancient China. You have to be a bit more specific though.

Mar 8, 2006, 22:06	#7
pipokun Regular Member Join Date: Feb 4, 2005 Posts: 2,499	It is a good start to choose the era, before/after the Edo. Before the Edo, Europeans described samurai was taken as disloyal people...

May 20, 2006, 03:28	#10
Shizu Seraph blue eagle flying high Join Date: May 20, 2005 Location: Azuchi Age: 21 Posts: 26	Discussing samurai is indeed a huge, complicated, and frustrating to boot. Why? Cause once you dig deeper, you'll find out a WHOLE shitload of misconceptions saturating society. Forget what you see in anime/manga; you've yet to see the REAL samurai. As the others have said: be more specific What aspect of the samurai do you want to know? Is it the etymology? Is it the history? Is it the culture? Is it their social status? Is it the arms and armor? Is it "bushido"? Tell us... And BTW, Ost Prussia, it's ashigaru. Not ashikagu. I supposed you confused it with Ashikaga, didn't you?

May 23, 2006, 01:12	#11
warakawa Regular Member Join Date: May 19, 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 199	the samurais were well respected in the old japanese society. they had better looking armour.

May 31, 2006, 03:30	#12
Da Monstar Booyah! Join Date: Sep 25, 2005 Location: Denmark Age: 21 Posts: 269	us Norse was cooler. No warrior is cooler than the vikings. What other kind of warriors made use of the so-called "Berskergang" (too add to that, trust me, you do fight better drunk but I havent tried out the mushrooms yet probably never will) anyway for your project. Try go to www.wikipedia.org and choose the english(got most stuff on it) search for samurai. I had a school project about "The Blitz" I just copy+pasted thw whole darn thing from the wikipedia and got around 3 pages of great info.. though my teacher saw through it __________________ If you're not already embarassed by your own sad ******* existence, then I assure you, nothing I can ever do or say is going to make you blush. -Randal Graves (the Clerk)

Jun 8, 2006, 23:34	#13
GroglovesJapan Junior Member Join Date: May 18, 2006 Location: Edinburgh Age: 20 Posts: 18	Hi there, Buddhism wasnt the only religion found in Japan. Shintoism is the native religion of Japan and thats still what many Samurai still believed in. I did a talk a couple of years ago about the difference in weapons and armour between Japanese and the typical european of the same period. European armour had to keep changing with new weapons and styles of fighting, yet the Japanese armour had no need to change (altough at some point the lacing and metallurgy[spelling?] was altered and that in turn made it lighter and easier to move about in) but of course Japan was pretty closed off throughout history. I myself prefer Japanese armour to anything else.

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